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Re: Update

Postby Zahir al Daoud » Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:21 pm

Antigoneunbound, you've captured something in this chapter that gets me with fear, with compassion, with horror and a bunch of other emotions. Much as I adore stories about redemption, degeneration is something that fascinates in the way snakes' eyes do--like watching a train wreck only worse.



It occurs to me you've made an excellent little sermon here about being true to oneself on many levels. Congrats!

"GOD created Man in his own image. Man, being a gentleman, returned the courtesy." -Voltaire

Zahir al Daoud
 


O.O

Postby AmberEyedDragon » Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:48 pm

I think I will join the chorus of people once again in telling you, that this was an AMAZING update. In many ways different, in my opinion, from the others so far.



You show the emotions of each character so well in every chapter, you have a way of letting us know what everyone is feeling, and thinking very clearly. This time around, it was so much more intense. If not more intense...then maybe...more obvious? You've managed to throw us right into the whirlwind inside Oz's mind, without overpowering us with it. The way it was spoken, the repitition, him trying to convince himself, it created this amazing, and i admit almost terrifying build-up, and you knew something was coming in the end. Even if you could see it coming, it was still this slap in the face, at the same time being a swift and quiet attack from behind. ((Am I making any sense? im really tired))



The interaction between Buffy and Willow, it just showcased the terror you knew Tara was feeling. An outstanding backdrop that only built up every emotion, and really pulled at your heart. It totally solidified the connection between Willow and Tara in my mind. Their reaching out for each other...that love that kept them in touch....mmm..so powerful, so emotional...so pure...



Your truly amazing. I look forward to more......after my nap at least



Sara

AmberEyedDragon
 


great fic

Postby SilverWingedNemesis » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:21 pm

Although my heart is breaking..I can't wait for another update! Hope we can expect one soon!



Willow and Tara Snuggles please!! (lets have Tara and Riley kick Walsh's ass!!!



~NICKOLE~

SilverWingedNemesis
 


Re:Part 7

Postby hermitstull » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:44 pm

Yes! Oz as a villian! I love where you're going with this. And the sense that I get, that despite the grief of losing Willow, he's way okay with what he's about to do. Like in some sort of twisted way he thinks if he eliminates Tara, Willow will come back to him eventually. (Just a guess, here.)



And I enjoyed action Buffy telling Willow to basically suck it up and pull herself to get together so they can find Tara. She still cares about Willow's present state, but is more worried about Tara and what would happen to Willow if Tara is hurt.



I look foward to the next update-

hermitstull

"...and if you've got no other choice, you know you can follow my voice, through the dark turns and noise of this wicked little town..."--Hedwig and the Angry Inch



"Stinky herbs are a go." Cordelia in Becoming pt. 2

hermitstull
 


Re: On Second Thought

Postby JewWitch18 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:50 pm

well I can't say anything that hasn't already been said. I actually like when that happens...all this smartness is oh-so-sexy :blush



and I'm with tommo, I luuuv a woman who knows where to put her objects (direct or indirect, baby?) ruby that was some sexy grammar lesson :wink



--jenny

WILLOW: I believe these chicken feet are mine!

JewWitch18
 


Responses: Thanks!

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:21 pm

Mary’s fingers waited, poised expectantly above her keyboard, awaiting their commands like obedient foot-soldiers. But her brain fumbled for words, stunned as she was yet again by the quality and thoughtfulness of the feedback she had received. Finally her fingers got tired of waiting and reached out for the latte that sat dangerously close to said keyboard. "Give us a call when your brain kicks in," they seemed to say.



Kittens rock;

Kittens roll;

Kittens gladden my wee little soul…



In case you can’t tell—thank you so much for your incredible words.



One general note at the beginning—I was intrigued by the variety of responses regarding Oz’s behavior in this scene and his character in general. Personally, I always thought it was a nice irony that Oz—one of the least out-of-control characters on the show—was afflicted with a demon aspect that was the epitome of impulse and feral drive. I didn’t want to have him wolf out again, b/c I envisioned him here as having truly thought about all of this and wanting, in so many ways, to be the person he believed himself to be. But Sister Bertrille, you nailed it: "If Oz really didn’t want to wolf out, he would be a hundred miles away by now." I wanted the conflict to be within Oz, without the werewolf as the convenient (oddly enough) scapegoat for his own rage. Fascinating stuff you all wrote, Kittens.



Ironically, I don’t get UPN in my area but I hear that our beloved wasn’t on last night. Any scoop on whether we’ll ever, ever get to see her again? Sigh…



I’ll be updating this tonight (Wednesday). Thanks again!



And now for specific responses…

>>Chance: I had just posted my responses before when I received your feedback. Thanks so much for coming out of lurker mode to speak up. And please—call me Mary. I love the work "Antigone," but someone already had that moniker, so I fumbled around for a suffix of sorts and liked the cadence of "Unbound." I’m sorta embarrassed, though, because I think it sounds sort of, um, grandiose, and I’m not really a grandiose kinda gal. I’m really glad the story is working for you on different levels. Your own words are fluid and gracious—any chance you’ve posted any fics? Just wonderin’…Thanks a lot for writing.



>>DMW: You capture very articulately the experience I wanted to convey: that gradual slipping of resistance, accompanied with ever-increasing desperation. And the final embracing—yeah, that’s what makes evil so terrifying to me. Thanks for your kind words and insight.



>>Rose: Glad you liked the tension; and of course Tara will be OK…we just don’t know when. Thanks for writing.



>>Iamyouknowyours: Hope you got caught up on your sleep! I’ve lost several hours myself reading some amazing work on this board. I’m glad the internal monologues ring true for you; Oz is a tough character to capture b/c he requires more speculation than anyone else, at least in my opinion. And it would have felt like a cop-out to have him just head on outta Dodge; besides, we needed the climactic confrontation! Thanks a lot for the support and encouragement.



>>Jixer: I suspect we have a similar philosophy: that lightness and joy take on their truest definition when illuminated by a contrasting darkness. Your response really captured the mixed feelings that a lot of people had about Oz’s character and his future. And the explicitness of the love scenes…I’m just glad they feel real for you, and that the backdrop of their deep and abiding love is apparent, even in the midst of random smutty behaviors! Thanks a lot for writing.



>>Slowontheuptake: What a great name! Yeah, we don’t know where Oz is heading, do we? I wish I could promise you good things for him, but to be honest—I don’t know myself yet what’s gonna happen! Thanks for writing.



>>VampNo12: As ever, your feedback is just amazing. First of all, I’m glad the depiction of Oz’s inner world worked with you. I’ll be honest, I really struggled w/ how and even if to write it. You picked up on one of my favorite aspects of writing and reading: the cadence of a phrase, and the use of selective repetition to set a tone and define some part of a character. The phrases of this section definitely constituted a mantra of sorts to me. You also capture, extremely well, the ironic conundrum of Oz’s attempts to keep the wolf at bay: the more he attempts to accept the reality and full truth of Willow’s choice (her love for Tara, her response to Tara, her immediate willingness to lay down her life [thanks, Ruby!] for Tara), the more Oz the man "loses it." I sort of see him as assuming that if he could keep the wolf from coming out, he’d be OK; but he’s not. He’s discovering (and yes—apparently embracing) the violence and rage within himself that exists independently of the wolf. At this point, he’s planning to use the wolf as his hit man, in essence. Again, thanks so much for the thoughtfulness and insight of your feedback. I always love seeing your name on the thread!



>>Sonya: You’re right—one of the advantages of writing is that we can see inside people’s minds and hearts. And I definitely agree with you that our girls did an amazing job of creating a masterpiece out of the four broken crayons they were given to use. Isn’t it incredible how protective we all are of Tara? I think that was true even before That One Episode. Why do you think that is? Thanks for writing!



>>Mollyig: Glad you liked the split-scene perspective. I was hoping it would help inform the tension, build it a little bit. Even though we knew Tara was missing, we didn’t know how it had happened. I wanted the phone call, which at first would have seemed just a sweet thing for a besotted woman to do, to play a more ominous role later on. Thanks for your feedback.



>>Ann-Marie: Yeah, Tara just seems to have the ability to feel compassion in almost any situation, doesn’t she? So long as it doesn’t involve a threat to Willow, right? As always, thanks for writing and helping give this feedback junkie her daily dose.



>>Deixs: Well, you know our girls (all of them)—Buffy and Willow won’t exactly stop for a mocha refill on their way to rescue Tara. And you’re right: now Oz, the man, apparently thinks he has the RIGHT to kill Tara, which makes him far more dangerous. Thanks a lot for the feedback.



>>Ruby: First of all, I do believe how much you love this story and it just tickles me three shades of pink with a fuschia thrown in for good measure. So thanks! And thanks-squared for your very cogent, very helpful explanation of laying, getting laid, lying (how does one lie about getting laid, I wonder?), and all things pertaining thereunto. It actually made sense to me! So kudos to you, good soul! And look for me at Ruth’s table: anybody who knows how to use her objects (directly OR indirectly) lights a fire deep within my hopefully-literate soul. You rock beyond words.



>>Snuggle79: Yeah, Buffy definitely needed to step in and help out, didn’t she? Glad she’s being a true friend again. Thanks for writing!



>>Cindipitude: You’re right—Oz has crossed a line. He’s moved from low-key understatement boy with an unfortunate affliction to someone considering using that affliction to exact the revenge that his human aspect believes is warranted. He’s choosing to hurt. That moves him into a different, more ominous zone of danger and degradation. Thanks a lot for writing. Your comments always show a lot of insight and nuance. I appreciate the time you take to give your feedback.



>>Ruth: I’m glad Oz’s internal monologues serve to deepen the story for you, instead of distracting you. As I’ve noted above, writing him is a tricky affair. And no, Ruth, there’s nothing wrong with you for getting turned on by Ruby’s grammar lesson. The brain has always been my erogenous zone: Embrace your cerebral cravings! Thanks for writing in with your thoughts and reactions; as always, your words mean a lot.



Whoa, Kittens…Just saw the time and I have to skedaddle off (not to be confused with sashaying or moseying) to do that which earns me money. I’ll finish these replies later tonight and post part 8. Thanks!



AntigoneUnbound
 


Stupidity leak...(on my part)

Postby SilverWingedNemesis » Wed Nov 13, 2002 8:37 pm

Hey kittens. Just incase anyone didn't noticed, on my last comment I made a goof! I was reading and replying to two stories at once that i'm reading and I made a reference to Riley and Tara kickin walsh's ass..well..wrong story!! (i'm back on the clue train now..sorry) anyway...can't wait for another update!!

I hope Willow can get through to Tara so her and Buff can go to the rescue!! *sighs* Love this fic!!



~NICKOLE~

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MORE MORE MORE~

SilverWingedNemesis
 


stupidity leak

Postby Sleek » Wed Nov 13, 2002 8:44 pm

Nikole,



hey it happens to the best of us. don't worry about it. :grin



i have a boo boo myself. I posted twice coz i thought my reply didn't register, so i retyped and hit the reply button again only to find out my earlier reply got posted already. hee hee. (sheepish grin)

Sleek
 


Re: stupidity leak

Postby JewWitch18 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:21 am

hey mary,



yeah or yeah, your oz is magnificently there in that place where he has to confront his own demons without the wolf as a scapegoat. and it is scary to know that he, or anyone, can and will come down on the side of violence, and do it deliberately. brrr! another excellent exersize into human nature. ...still swooning over tara with the naked power of grace, over here...



as for your question about amber-- there had been rumors over the summer that she would be back as tara, but "in another form"-- joss :joss even said so-- but we had also heard that amber was refusing to play the part because it would hurt the fans more (I had heard specifically that this season's big bad would take on tara's form to torture willow). so yeah, that's exactly what happened. amber refused to play this part, cuz she is a classy girl and a wonderful person and loves her fans very very much. so she wasn't in the ep.



...am I allowed to talk about this stuff in pens? I hope that no one is mad or offended, and I am deliberately not talking about anything that actually happened in the ep, just that amber wasn't there, and won't be there as far as I know. go amber!



--jenny

WILLOW: Why is it always the end of the world? Couldn't it be the end of cheese or something?

--Tempus Fugit(S7) by Lipkandy

JewWitch18
 


On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:24 am

On Second Thought: Part 8

But first, final responses to les kitties fantasticoes~~

]]LittleCrazy80: Thanks! Oz’s thought process was a tough one to write, so I’m glad it rang true.

]]JD: Girl, you sure do know your way around feedback…Yeah, I miss the Buffy of old, too. I love your observation about how enjoyable she could be if she’d start noticing things that don’t go bump in the night. And Tara—yes, I think I find her the most emotionally and psychologically appealing of any of the characters. I find her to be easily the least self-absorbed, certainly. So…you were conflicted about Oz? I gotta confess: me too. I battled a lot w/ where to go w/ his wolf aspect, and then I realized that the part I found most intriguing was his human aspect in coping with heart-break. I felt like that opened up the door to exploring the whole role of choice, as you so astutely observed. And hey—I always get something out of your feedback, JD! Thank you, thank you, and did I mention—thank you, for your kind words and encouragement. Hey—any more writing coming from you anytime? (JD paused, amazed at Mary’s subtlety.)

]]Insanity: Guess you just gotta stay tuned! I’d certainly appreciate it if you did! Thanks for writing.

]]BV: I’m glad the characters’ mental meanderings ring true for you. I struggled w/ whether to venture back into Oz’s mind again, but I decided I wanted/needed to. Thanks for the feedback and good thoughts.

]]Sleek: What a great image: "wonderful words carefully plucked from [your] mind’s garden." You know, I’ve seen those wonderful words in "Finding You," girl! You pick up quite immediately on the "thread" idea of Oz’s sanity and integrity, or honor. His constant repetition plays on my love of cadence for certain images—I wanted to show his effort, his vigilance, and also his pride, which kept him from leaving town when he should have. And I was really worried about the shifting perspectives, especially since they varied in time. I wanted Willow and Buffy’s exchanges to have the backdrop, for the reader, of knowing just what had happened to lead to those exchanges. I just can’t thank you enough for your encouragement and graciousness. It truly means a lot to me.

]]Karen: It’s been really interesting to me to see how people’s reactions to Oz have shifted as his inner dialogue has emerged in response to how he’s feeling and what’s happening around him (e.g., the phone message). I wanted to play a little bit w/ his dark side, and just see if I felt like anything was there. What do you think about that aspect of him? Hey—if this fic is providing a respite from Real Life Unpleasantness, I’m really glad…But even more, I hope that RLU doesn’t endure too long. Consider yourself the recipient of good thoughts from a tiny town in the USA. Thanks a lot for your kind words.

]]Grimaldi: I’ll be curious to see what you think of Oz after this update…Thanks for writing.

]]Sister Bertrille: (What a great name!) Wow…that was amazing feedback, by virtue of its thoughtfulness and literate style. I totally get the you/Oz disconnect—he’s a pretty neutral character in lots of ways by virtue of his reticence and inscrutability. As I mentioned in the general note, you nailed his essential flaw here: had he really wanted to be the man he said he wanted to be, he would have left town on the first bus/train/moped. And oh, yeah—Tara always had more understated humor to her than we ever got to see fully developed. I ended up feeling as though the main characters—at least B, W, and X—were always clamoring for attention and Tara just had this "less is more" style to her that made her just so damn appealing to me. (I’m guessing the silky hair, lush lips, and most-wondrously-rounded bosom also had somethin’ to do with it…) A lot of people have said they enjoy Buffy in this fic—I think b/c she’s ended up seeming pretty mopey and self-absorbed in the last two seasons. I’m glad you like the love scenes. It’s very…um, exhilarating to write them. And now, SB, a tidbit just for you…Come closer, press your ear up to your monitor…Tara was drinking…Dr. Pepper when Oz interrupted her. All joking aside or least ajar, I really appreciate your comments. They were thoughtful and insightful and gave me a nice glimpse into a very literate, wry soul. Thanks for checking this out and letting me know what you thought.

]]Zahir: Oh, I agree—degeneration is supremely fascinating to me. It does have the snake’s eyes lure that you so astutely noted; I also find that my appreciation of light and honor are heightened when I’m made fully aware of their antonyms. Thanks for your kind words and observations.

]]Sara: I’m really glad that Oz’s inner dialogue offered clarity instead of making things more murky. I don’t usually like to use multiple POV’s within a story, at least more than once, but it just felt really essential to let people see how Oz, the character we’ve been shown, came to do this horrific thing. I was also relieved to hear that the tension-building worked. I think plot is my weak spot, and dramatic tension is hard to write (at least for me) b/c it’s such a delicate balance: not to be melodramatic, but also no understated to the point that the reader is going, "Tell me again why I give a rat’s ass about this." Thanks a lot for writing and sharing your observations with me. They’re really thoughtful and help me have confidence that I’m conveying what I want to convey.

]]Nickole: No sweat on the fic/switch. Heck, after reading the passion in your response, I wanted to have Riley go postal on Walsh, or maybe have Oz’s attention diverted to eating Walsh instead of terrorizing our girl! Glad you like this story, and thanks for letting me know. FYI, I’m really enjoying "The Truth of Deception" myself, and gotta get over there and give feedback to that effect!

]]Hermitstull: You really pick up nicely on the psyche that I’m trying to convey w/ Oz: that he has let himself believe that his actions are justified. Always a tricky first step when negotiating the slippery slope o’ morality…And yeah, Buffy came through! I like writing her as a strong friend. Thanks for your good thoughts!

]]Jenny: Thanks for the encouragement, girl. I hope you like this installment!

And now, without further ado, I present Part 8

Premise: Way the heck back in S4, Willow makes a difficult choice
Disclaimer: Joss and ME own all these folks, but Tara gave me a call and asked me to come over and take them out for a ride. I’ll have them back sometime.
Rating: NC-17
Spoilers: Up to the end of "New Moon Rising"
Distribution: But of course…Please give credit and disclaimer. Thanks.
Feedback: I’d definitely appreciate it.


Summary: Willow initially chose Oz, in no small part b/c she believed he needed her more. It became clear, however, that her love for Tara was only growing. Willow ran into Tara at the Bronze, only to find Tara there with another woman. Willow fled, Tara followed, Big Time Sensuality (to quote Bjork) ensued. Much later, Oz stopped by on an ill-advised whim. He wolfed out, but Tara employed a soothing spell that included, in essence, offering herself to the werewolf while Willow was anchored in a state of safety and calm. After a rather tenuous stand-off, Oz bounded out the door, still in wolf form. The next day, Willow and Tara called a Scooby meeting to talk about the night’s events, a conversation that included Willow coming out to everyone. The meeting ended with the plan that everyone try to locate Oz, using a reasoned mixture of caring and caution. By the next evening, however, Oz was still MIA. Leaving Giles’ house, Willow felt a sudden and inexplicable conviction that he was still in Sunnydale, and that this whole drama was far from over. She and Tara spent the next day making love and just basically wallowing in each other. Tara sentWillow off for some quality time with Buffy; when Willow’s calls went unanswered, Willow became worried. She and Buffy went to Tara’s room, only to find a mess. Tara was nowhere to be found. Turns out that Oz had gone first to Willow’s room to apologize but then, not finding her there, looked for her at Tara’s room. He was making his way through his regrets, including his intention to leave town, when the phone rang: Willow left a message saying how much she loved Tara and asking her to call. At that point, Oz kept himself from changing—but only in order to get Tara back to his hiding place. In other words, he chose to act in a violent way. Meanwhile, Willow and Buffy are trying to locate Tara using Willow’s mental connection to her beloved.

Part 8

Tara? Baby? You have to help me find you. Buffy’s here; we’re gonna come get you. But you need to let me know where you are. Baby?

Willow sat cross-legged on Tara’s bed and tried to focus. She had felt Tara’s presence—always a flickering burst of energy, mute and muted—at seemingly random intervals for the past half an hour. Now, though, it had been over ten minutes since she had last registered the gentle warmth.

Glancing over, she saw a long, golden strand of hair shimmering on Tara’s pillow. Only a few hours ago, they had lain here, tangled together, laughing and healing old wounds and creating new dreams. And now Tara was somewhere, terrified, with someone who meant to hurt her, or already had hurt her, or…Panic shot through her like flares, threatening to burn through any vestige of security and hope. How would she live without Tara? How would she ever move, eat, laugh, breathe again, knowing that she did so alone? Why would she want to?

She drew another deep breath, twining the light hair gently through her fingers as she did so, and attempted to coax her mind back into a state of calm and focus.

Baby? Where are you? Can you hear me? Tara, please—don’t leave me. Come back to me. Please…

Love.

Willow’s eyes flew open. She hadn’t imagined the voice, she was sure of it. She would know that voice, speaking that word, in the middle of any chaos and any silence. She focused once more.

Tara? I can hear you, Baby. Oh, Sweetie, I can hear you. Are you OK?

Love…you…Always love you.

No—no, those words were wrong, desperately wrong. Those were the words that came before goodbye.

Baby, where are you? Just tell me. Do you know?

The silence was a black fog that mocked her, dared her to hope and then fall.

Tara, don’t you even think about going away. I need you, Baby. Tara? Dammit, come back. I—I will so kick your beautiful ass if you leave me. She could feel tears spilling out from behind her closed lids.

The yawning stillness waved forward, blind to her grief and terror. And then—

Willow…Oz—he hates us…so much. You can’t…

Can’t what? Save you? The hell I can’t. Where are you?

Don’t…Don’t do this…He’ll kill you.

So I should just say goodbye and wait for your body to be recovered? She was shaking, but the connection still held. Tara, Buffy’s with me. You think she can’t handle him? And even if she weren’t here, I’d come for you. And I’d get you.

He’s so…so crazy with anger.

Can you get him back to being Oz?

Willow, he is Oz.

Willow choked at the words. Oz? The gentle musician? He was doing this? Terrorizing, hurting her beloved?

The wolf…it comes and goes. I think Oz is…Oz is controlling it, letting it…come out just a little, enough to…

Enough to what? Baby? Enough to what?

Enough to…to hurt me…pretty bad.

The room tilted, walls and floor stretching and shifting and finally resettling.

Willow, I can’t…stop him. I’m already fading. You have to get away…for now. Don’t try…if he gets to you…

Tara Maclay, don’t you dare tell me what to do. Don’t you dare make decisions for me about my life. The only decision that you get to make for me is what to name our first child because I’m such a spaz that the kid would be in grad school before I settled on a name I like.

There was nothing, no sound within the dark cottoned chamber of her mind.

Tara? Do you hear me? Goddess, please…Baby, how would you feel if you had to sit here and know I was dying? Don’t do this to me, Tara. I need you.

Willow…

Baby? Yeah?

If I had to sit there and listen…listen to you…I would—I would so kick your beautiful ass.

Willow could feel her shoulders shaking with the force of unreleased sobs. Then tell me, Baby. Where are you?

Some old factory…west of town. It took us about…twenty minutes to get here, in Oz’s van. I don’t think…not used anymore.

Willow started with the realization. The little prick took you where he found Xander and me; when Spike wanted that love potion for Dru.

Yeah, well…the little prick has…has abandonment issues, I think.

Baby, you have to hang on. Buffy and I are on our way. I’m gonna keep calling you, and you’d damn well better pick up the phone, OK?

I love…love it when you’re all…forceful.

Springing from the bed, Willow turned to Buffy, who had watched all of this unfold without moving from her seat on the floor.

"They’re at the textile factory, the old one on 79." She propelled Buffy out the door.

"You mean where he and Cordelia—?"

"That’s the one."

"The little prick…"

***

The ride, in Mrs. Summers’ SUV, lasted only fourteen minutes, largely because Buffy seemed to assume that speed limits didn’t apply to Slayers. Willow had been able to keep contact with Tara fairly consistently; she was clearly hurt, but wouldn’t give any details. But the knowledge that Willow was coming for her seemed to give her renewed strength. Willow leaped out before the vehicle had come to a complete stop; Buffy was on her heels seconds thereafter.

"Wait, Will—we need a plan."

"The plan is we go in there and rescue Tara."

"What about Oz?"

"He forfeited his rescue coupon when he hurt Tara."

Buffy grabbed her arm, spinning her around. "Will—how far do we go? If he puts up a fight?"

Willow paused, knowing what Buffy was asking; but she paused only a second.

"His life is secondary to Tara’s safety. Is that clear?"

Buffy looked at her, her expression one of both compassion and resolution. "It’s clear. Let’s go get your girl."

***

Willow knew exactly where they’d be—Oz would hold Tara in the same room where he discovered her kissing Xander one year and a lifetime ago. Get over yourself, Irony Boy.

What she hadn’t expected was the sight of blood all along the hallway leading to the room; small random droplets interspersed with larger pools—dark, liquid garnets flung in haste and protest—that stopped at the closed door to the room.

Buffy reached out an arm, signaling for Willow to stop, and pressed her ear to the door. Willow did likewise.

"…because you can’t understand. You don’t know what we had; what we still could have had. She chose me, remember? Why didn’t you stay away from her?"

Willow couldn’t hear Tara’s muffled response, but she didn’t really care. She had heard Tara; knew once again that she was still alive.

"You didn’t try to seduce her? You expect me to believe that? That you didn’t use every trick in the book to get her into bed?" There was the sound of Tara’s low voice again, and then what sounded like a rattling of chains. "Well, here’s what I think. I think you gave her that poor, shy, stuttering routine until she just felt sorry for you."

Willow grabbed Buffy by the shoulder. "When does the ass-kicking start?" she hissed.

"I’m thinkin’ right about now." With that, Buffy gave the door a very-expertly-delivered kick and they both tumbled into the room.

Willow knew, in that moment, that she was looking upon two sights that would stay with her until the end of her days: one was Oz, in a grotesque state of half-change; his eyes black and fangs partially erupted, fingers distended to claws.

And the other was Tara, bloodied and torn, chained against a wall.

At the sight of her, Oz seemed at first about to complete his transformation, but then abruptly, all signs of the werewolf disappeared. He stood before her, eyes a mixture of grief and venom. Willow saw Tara lift her head slightly; her lip had been sliced and claw marks veered angrily across her throat and chest. Willow thought for a moment that she might pass out, but steadied herself. I told you I’d get you, Baby. Hold on, OK? Please hold on.

Look at you—all…all butch and…ready to rumble.

"Willow…I went to find you; I was going to apologize. But you weren’t there and I went to her room"—with this he jerked his head in Tara’s direction—"and I even said I was sorry to her. But then you called and left that message and—and I just lost control."

Anger charged through her body at the words, and she struggled to keep her voice even. "Oz, you’re not out of control now; so just let Tara go, OK?"

He took a step closer to her. "All I wanted to do was love you, Willow. I did everything, all the work, for you. But you threw it all away."

"No, Oz. I didn’t. I fell in love with Tara and I hadn’t even realized how much until I tried to give her up."

She recoiled at his reaction: fangs ripped from his jaws, and his fingers stretched once more into gnarled claws—and then, just as quickly, they had disappeared, and Oz stood human before her again. Finally, he turned and walked away from her, back to where Tara was hanging, held up by the chains.

"Can you believe that I came back here and locked myself up in these chains the last two nights? Just so I wouldn’t hurt anybody. I mean, this room’s kinda symbolic, isn’t it?"

Willow hesitated in anguish. She wanted to scream at him, curse him both literally and figuratively for what he had done to her beloved. But could she do so without him transforming again and killing Tara? Would he even have to change? How much of this had he done—willingly? The thought made her nauseous.

"You hurt me, Willow. More than you’ll ever know. I didn’t plan to do this, you know." Oz turned toward Tara as he spoke. "I was going to leave town. But when I heard your voice, on the phone—I just lost it. Now maybe you know a little bit about how it feels." He drew a shallow, hitched breath, and Willow saw the claws spring from his hands once more; she saw him reach for Tara; she saw that she couldn’t possibly reach her or even utter a spell in time to keep him from puncturing the soft flesh that had already borne so many wounds—

"Oz?" Willow and Oz both looked up in surprise. They had almost forgotten Buffy was there. Oz hesitated, head cocked, one feral hand raised.

"I really don’t want you to do that."

Oz, his face fully human, seemed to waver for a moment. And then he shrugged with a regret that Willow knew he didn’t feel, and turned back to Tara.

***

Moments later, Willow finally registered a complete thought: Man, I didn’t know even Buffy could move that fast.

And she never ran track? came the answering ripple within her mind. Spinning, Willow ran over to Tara and cradled her face gently in her hands.

Buffy stood towering over Oz, who was writhing on the floor. His now-declawed hands clung desperately to his genitals.

"You know, sometimes you just gotta go with the classics." Buffy knelt and turned him over roughly, searching in first one pocket and then another until she pulled out a key. She tossed it over to Willow. "Let’s have a new lead in this year’s Bondage Pageant, shall we?"

Willow fumbled with her eagerness, but finally managed to extricate Tara, who sagged against her.

"Baby? Oh God, Tara, you’re hurt."

"Nothing that …won’t heal." Her smile was feeble, and fresh blood trickled from the tear that she reopened with the effort. It was the most beautiful smile Willow had ever seen.

"Willow?" Tara’s voice was weak, and Willow leaned in as close as she could, kissing the bruised flesh with infinite gentleness.

"Yeah, Baby?"

"Amanda."

Willow’s brow furrowed with anxiety. Had Tara been beaten into a delirium? Was she under some kind of curse? "What, Baby?"

"For a girl. Amanda. Tristan for…for a boy. You said I could…decide. So I decided."

TO BE CONTINUED AND QUITE PROBABLY CONCLUDED




Edited by: AntigoneUnbound at: 11/13/02 11:26:31 pm
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Awesome!!!

Postby DarkWiccan » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:34 am

All other words fail me.. most likely due to a combination of the wonderful crafting of this story... and it being after midnight and I have to be up in five hours.. so brain function is minimal at best.



But still.. I can say:



AWESOME!!



Cheers

DW

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Re: On Second Thought

Postby samiamiguess » Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:33 am

Outstanding!

I came into work, did a little check on the updates and will you look at that, suddenly my schedule became clear.



"The little prick" line(s) made me laugh out loud. As you say, sometimes you just have to go with the classics. And ooh, it just said it all. Irony boy indeed.



If you do decide to conclude this in the next chapter are you planning on writing another?!!!! Um please?! I love a number of fics on this board and there are other fabulous writers but personally this has been without doubt my favourite recently. Many superlatives have been (quite rightly) said about your writing so hopefully you have an inkling of how we appreciate your work. So thank you, fair lady, for writing.

(Sorry for the gushing. Probably isn't the most constructive of feedbacks but will hopefully give you a rosey glow or at least a tiny cerise blush.)

sonya

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby VampNo12 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:42 am

Mary, again I must say your characterization/writing "blows me away"! The emotions throughout their connection was quite palpable, and what really resonated/created the mood was Willow finding a strand of Tara's hair and thinking, ("Only a few hours ago, they had lain here, tangled together, laughing and healing old wounds and creating new dreams. And now Tara was somewhere terrified, with someone who meant to hurt her, or....).



I could so feel the panic when Willow realized her tone/words were indicating "goodbye" (ie Tara wanting Willow away from the danger/putting Willow before herself). And I think what really spoke to Tara (ie in order to tell Willow her location), was not only getting Tara to see Willow's perspective (ie "how would you feel if you had to sit here and know I was dying?"), but also the talk about naming their child (ie they have a future, and not to deny themselves from enjoying this future).



Yes, the "symbolism" of where Oz took Tara speaks so well to his calculation in actively choosing to embrace the "darkness", and even though this was an intense part, I must say I got laugh with Tara's astute observation with her saying, ("Yeah, well...the little prick has abandonment issues, I think.").



Lastly, the last scene when Willow came upon the blood (and the encounter with Oz) was so tangible to me. Really it was so vivid with Oz's "half-change", Tara's wounds, and etc. And although, Oz was trying to justify his actions, it's clear the realization (and simple confirmation) of the depth of love Willow holds for Tara, is something Oz can't deal with (he can't seem to let go). So yay to Buffy taking the situation into her hands, and I loved the image of Oz "with his hands clinging to his genitals" with Buffy saying, ("You know, sometimes you just gotta go with the classics.) :) . Oh, it was wonderful how the part ended with talk of names for their children (ie Tara simply stating, "Amanda."), which conveys that W&T are embracing their future as a couple. Sad to know there might be only one part left, but I can't wait to see what happens next!



Edited by: VampNo12  at: 11/14/02 2:10:57 am
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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby deixs » Thu Nov 14, 2002 5:08 am

Wow, that was pretty close!!!!

I can't belive that Tara decided on names although Oz was going to kill her!!!!



Stef :p

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby Grimlock72 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 5:17 am

Loved Willow telling Tara she would most definitly NOT stay away :D Here comes White Knight Willow, probably not on a horse though :) Liked the speedlimit line as well, heh.. sounds like Buffy alright.



I'm wondering what they are going to do with Oz. Getting him in prison is going to be a bit difficult and he IS still alive. Which means the problem is still there :( Have to find a way to ensure Tara and Willow's safety from EvilOz...



Oh yes, I'm liking this story :D



Grimmy

"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby hush30 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:05 am

Great update. Thank-you for giving me such a wonderful distraction from thinking about a horrendous stats exam I have tomorrow.



Quote:
Tara Maclay, don’t you dare tell me what to do. Don’t you dare make decisions for me about my life. The only decision that you get to make for me is what to name our first child because I’m such a spaz that the kid would be in grad school before I settled on a name I like.




I loved this line how Willow got Tara to hold on and tell her where she was by discussing their future together. Tara just couldn't let go. Do you think Tara came up with the names Amanda and Tristan for their first child during the time she waited to be rescued or do you think Tara had been thinking about having a family with Willow long before the trouble with Oz? I tend to think the latter (but I ain't the creator of this wonderful fic :grin ).



I think this story also shows that no matter how hurt you are about being rejected by someone you love you still have a choice as to whether you let the worst parts of you come out or not. I hope they take Oz to the police, it so isn't safe to have him wondering around in human or wolf form.



When you say update and conclusion you do mean that you are going on to write a new story don't you :pray I couldn't imagine never reading a fic from you again (Is that even correct English? Sorry the brain is fried). Can't wait for post rescue smoochies :bounce

"I think this line's mostly filler" - Willow in OMWF

Edited by: hush30 at: 11/14/02 4:07:51 am
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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby mollyig » Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:45 am

That scene with our girls communicating was really well done, among the worry and tension the line - Dammit, come back. I I will so kick your beautiful ass if you leave me - was amusing. Willow's babble in which she mentioned the naming of their first child was lovely.



So glad Buffy was there to help Willow get her girl back.



Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby snuggle79 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:25 am

yay! Tara is safe again! *phew*

Man, that was exciting. Really ironic which place Oz chose for his plans. Loved Buffy's line about the "you gotta do the classics" :lol

And unbelievable that Tara had the time to think about their children's names. :)

Awesome update!! :) :clap

snuggle79 :wave

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"I got so lost"

"I found you, i will always find you"





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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby Sela » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:46 am

Great build up there. And I have to say, totally unexpected, at least for me. I'm not entirely sure what I thought was going to happen. Perhaps I thought there would be something a bit more restrained, but this...this was precisely the opposite. And I really liked it. Here's the thing I enjoyed-- No, Oz has never been a villain. He didn't choose to be a werewolf. In fact, he struggled against that animal side of himself for so long. Moreover, he didn't intend to hurt Tara, but as we all know, intentions mean nothing, it's the results that count. And in the end, Oz became what he loathed and what he feared the most--a violent animal. There are no more excuses for him. He crossed a line and did so willingly, without thought about consequences. It's a bit sad, actually, because though he wasn't the right person for Willow, he was still a decent guy. But being a slave to his emotions and his passions, he was simply unable to hold back. Grief makes us do strange things. But in no way does that excuse him for what he did. See, that's why I think this is such a good story. I felt for the guy but I hated him too. In one moment, I could feel his grief and in the next moment, particulary that last scene where he was preaching to Willow about how it feels to be in pain, I just loathed him. As I was reading that, I was thinking, "what a hypocrite!"



And Tara, strong, constant, loving, self-sacrificing Tara--how can anyone not love her? You've taken every great Tara quality and just made it shine through the piece. She's the only one who has never wavered. She's the only one that's known her heart. And yet, she's the shyest of them all. Phenomenal.



Also the evolution of Willow is remarkable. She went from being rather indecisive to knowing exactly what she wanted. She tossed her "obligation" aside, realizing that it was empty and wrong to stay by the side of a person she wasn't in love with anymore. Furthermore, she didn't hesitate when she had to make a choice between a living Oz and a living Tara. Finally, she realized that she had to choose her heart over her head, and that's something Willow has always struggled with.



I am, however, rather sad that this is coming to an end. But I'm also excited. Still, I hope this won't be the last we see of you and your wonderful writing!



--Sela

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby Tulipp » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:49 am

I just read part 7 and 8, and....fantastic. It's a real achievement, I think, to convey such a difficult and painful scene truthfully and explicitly but not graphically, and I think you did just that in this last chapter. But I get ahead of myself....



Oz's perspective in chapter 7 was a MUST; it was absolutely necessary. That's partly, of course, because it's the only way we get to see his thoughts, but it's also the only way we get to see Tara's fear, and that's as important. It's not that Willow can't see Tara's fear, of course; she does by sensing it, and by talking to her. But as we saw in the earlier chapter where Tara calmed Oz down and put the relax-mojo on Willow, Tara isn't going to show her fear when Willow's around. Only Oz can see that.



I thought darkmagicwillow's description of the subtle changes that led up to Oz's change in chapter 7 was right on; I just want to add that for me, it was the repetition of that basic statement "he wouldn't change" with subtle changes throughout that established the suspense throughout. But you signalled that huge change by following that repeated phrase with a single word, "yet," and that word--tiny in itself--was menacing and chilling and cold. Perfect.



What I appreciated most about Oz's reaction was that it was the answering machine message that triggered his decision. It was Willow's voice, her WORDS, that got him. You made this explicit here:

Quote:
God, no. No, no, no. Her voice; Willow’s. She used to talk to him that way.



Didn’t she?



Did she even care that he was destroyed beyond words?


Again here, as so often in your writing, primal emotions like love and hate come down to words, to language and voice and the sentences that we use to give shape to our feelings. That Oz would be destroyed beyond words by hearing Willow's words given to another person....well, that's powerful and very nuanced and what I love about your writing.



Oh, and on another note, I liked Buffy here, unsure about the moral code that would allow her to kill Oz but ready and willing to do whatever Willow needed her to do. That's the Buffy of my dreams.

"And I'm eating this banana. Lunchtime be damned!" -- Willow in "Doppelgangland

Edited by: Tulipp at: 11/14/02 6:49:39 am
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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby allyson12 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:33 am

This is really good. I've often wondered what would have happened if Oz found out about Willow's true feelings, her feelings for Tara in Moon Rising.



The one line that chased itself around in my head for days was Oz's comment; "You smell like her." and "She's all over you! Did you know that?" I wonder exactly what he smelled...;)



Looking forward to more..



-Allyson

"After one take, Joss did say, 'Can we have one that's less like you're going to sleep together in about five minutes?'" - Alyson Hannigan

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby jdcioffi » Thu Nov 14, 2002 11:02 am

There is SO much to respond to ... it might be long (I'll try to keep my verbose-ness to a minimum --- which I could have done by saying, "I'll try to keep it short" ;) )



Many fics include this connection between W/T; this closeness that allows them to "know" and "hear" each other. I never liked it. (Wait for it, Mary ... wait for it ...) No one has ever been able to keep the characterizations consistent throughout the "mind talk" before. (Notice, "before").



Intrinsically, they are Willow and Tara. Spoken word, mind messages ... whatever ... no matter what you do, they stay Willow and Tara. They never take on an uber-characteristic or all of a sudden become someone from another show. It's that consistency that makes the difference. I didn't cringe, not even once, as I read through their mind dialogue -- a first. ;)



What you have done with Willow is amazing. In the last feedback, I wrote about Buffy and how she COULD be like that. In this part, Willow COULD be like this. She could be un-silly, grown-up and, to be honest, strong.



When she said, "His life is secondary to Tara’s safety. Is that clear?" -- the real Willow came out to play. Her priorities were set and her days of fence sitting over. (I say this in light of the ep two weeks ago where she "could work around" that guy being a guy ... whatever).



Instead of panicky, can't move Willow -- we have a woman who knows herself and her lover enough to know (1) how to make Tara tell her where she is and (2) face the thing that, perhaps, she's been the most scared of: seeing what her actions gave Oz the excuse to do.



As for Oz. I found the whole "I never meant to do this" line of reasoning quite interesting, as he obviously DID mean to do it. How could he not? If it was a rash act -- he would have just killed Tara right there in the dorm. There would have been no playing, no hide-n-seek ... it would have been a done deal.



I've read in other feedback about Tara's choosing a name while in danger. I thought this showed a normal human process ... when in trouble, distract yourself! When I'm in migraine country, I often just sit and think up crazy things like what my first house will look like or where I want to take my girl on vacation ... never about the pain, otherwise, I'd go crazy.



And what can I say about Buffy? For every dramatic page, you need a sentence of comedy. The "classic" line was that ... the image of Buffy moving so fast and kicking his boys in ... a great tension (and ball) breaker. There had to be something to break it up ... otherwise, it would have been one note ... and who likes music with one note?





That wasn't short. I apologize, LOL



I realize this is coming to an end, and hope others will join me in, not only thanking you for posting this, but also in asking you to do another. (As for me ... I need an idea ... once I have that, I'm there, dude).



As always, in awe,

JD





"Was there a voice unkind in the back of your mind saying, "maybe..." (Jeff Buckley - The Last Goodbye)

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby barnabasvamp » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:01 pm

Glad to see Tara safe again, and picking names...Thought that was cute.

As always, Tara not wanting to put Willow in danger.

The Oz thing was so out of character, but we have to assume that a love spurned can cause a person to do and say things they normally never would.

Looking forward to more!

BV

"In front of total strangers won't you kiss me, Flowers for no reason but you miss me - OOH, I wanna be in love"

Melissa Etheridge-Skin

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby stereo33 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:04 pm

Mary - I think you definitely played with Oz's dark side and found plenty there! Before Tara, I never thought much about the extremes Oz would go to where Willow and "a other" was involved. Before Tara we only really saw "silent Oz" (when he found X and W together, if I can mention that show for a moment). Like I said I always kinda liked him, but I found the way you explored his character totally believable, especially with him having already changed before where T was involved.



Although, having all that hurt and rage inside and being able to control it enough to not change completely but to torture Tara was pretty nail biting stuff, and certainly not a good reflection on Oz. (I also liked Buffy's line about the classics).



I love the way you write Willow and Tara, I love their connection and how W wouldn't give up and made T tell her where she was. I also love the way W made it perfectly clear to Buffy who her priority was. :)



Also thank you for the good thoughts you sent, they were much appreciated :) (as was your timely update).



I really really hope you will be writing and posting more IF the next part of your story is the conclusion. I don't think I can get thru the week without an update from you :)



Thank you

Karen









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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:15 pm

This chapter was vividly scary yet at the same time it wasn't too graphicly violent. The chapter does flow quickly, but Willow's change of view about Oz feels right to me as she's heard from Tara how's she's been hurt by him and then she sees Tara. That would change my outlook on him immediately.



I really liked how you ended it. It's a very nice yet effective way to suddenly change the mood.



Tulipp, yes, the repitition of his assertion that he wouldn't change did really help set the mood. That's a technique I haven't figured out for myself yet so I should pay more attention to it, but it works very well here. I think chapter 7 been my favorite one so far, even more so than the initially very sweet and sexy ones where they first got together.





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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. -- "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby littlecrazy80 » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:49 pm

I´m glad that Willow finally saved Tara! And Tara picking out the names was just too cute.

What will happen with Oz?



*lil´c*



Unter den Blinden ist der Einäugige König.

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby Insanity » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:28 pm

YAY! Glad tht I'm still tuned *g*



Really great update...



Look at you—all…all butch and…ready to rumble.



I love that line...

BTW I'm wondering.. you know Oz hurt Tara... will she become a wolfie , too????





Insanity

"Nobody messes with my girl!" Tara, Bargaining

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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby ruby » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:58 pm

Mary, thanks for this latest chapter. This time around, I was savoring the mental connection between Willow and Tara. Your characterization was wholly believable, even though you're dealing with the private language of a couple in love, the kind of language we rarely got to see on the show. Does that make sense? They're sexy, they're serious, they're staying brave for each other, and they're funny--all at the same time. The way it can only be when one person means more to you than the rest of the world put together.



Great writing.

Wow, that was so close to being empowering. --"Same Time, Same Place"

Edited by: ruby at: 11/14/02 1:00:36 pm
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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby Grimaldi » Thu Nov 14, 2002 4:15 pm

this was a really good update :) i wonder how much of the hatred and violence that Oz showed is because of the wolf or himself.

Dude, we're surrounded by perverts!
No! Well, okay. No. Pez!
I don't know, and I don't WANT to know. I quit. I'm leaving.







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Re: On Second Thought: Part 8

Postby SilverWingedNemesis » Thu Nov 14, 2002 4:27 pm

Love this fic!! Can't wait to read more!! Definatly need some Willow takin' care and Lovin' on Tara!! :-)



Can we expect more soon???



Thanks!

~NICKOLE~

Edited by: SilverWingedNemesis at: 12/26/02 6:12:05 pm
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