General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 7 - The Voyage Home

[Wiccagrrl]

Actually, I think I'd believe the possibility of the zombie kitty more.

[Lijdrec]

Checked the Stake-Out msgbd didn't see this rumor posted there so where did 'J. Stevens' get it?

Lies, lies, more lies.....

[VampNo1]

What I find funny about this rumor about Aly leaving the show for future projects, is that the rumor always seems to crop-out toward the end of the season. Wasn't there a fake rumor one season that had Aly's publicist saying she wasn't happy with her storyline and wanted to leave the show (complete crap). These rumors always seem to come-out towards the end of the season, and never seem very credible at least to me. As others have said I wouldn't put much faith in what this article says.

[FondaBuhtz]

hi

if y'all go to www.epguides.com and go to th e buffy section there are some spoilers posted it goes right up to episode 20 just click on individual eps and theres a short paragraph on each

[whiz]

i hate this feeling..... everytime hearing a rumor like this or hearing that something bad may happen to our girls.....

pleaseee... together forever (on the show and alive) our girls will be.....

[Kiwiccan]

Well if James is as old as you say he is...
DAMN he has some fan-freakin-tastic genes.

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May the Amber Force be with you.
Keeper of my own insanity

[willowtarasandwich]

Now I'm totally depressed - yet another rumour about Amber leaving - cheer me up, somebody!!!

[cachaco]

willowtarasandwich, all you have to do is think about your own screenname to be cheered up! mmmmmm..... i know just saying it makes me giggle - good choice!

listen to the wise kitties, read the first post of the thread - despair not! these are not credible sources, folks here are very good at ferreting out BS. and B/S for that matter!

don't be depressed about these vague rumors, don't let the trolls get you down - it's all about the W/T love 'round these parts! aly's already signed on for next season, it's all good....

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PASTURE: See... that is, where you are a mockup. With I think on..., you grew up to what, and... then regard I, which you form... it me are proud. It educates me to love you more.

[willowtarasandwich]

Thanks, Cacacho - that's making me feel a little better

[Sela]

I checked this site out. Basically, it simply regurgitates what other "news" sources have said. I mean, it still has "RILEY WILL NOT RETURN" as an update, and then it has "RILEY'S BIG RETURN" as another update. Obviously, things change from second to second with this website. Besides, the primary source is Wanda, and we all know how reliable that is.

Also, how on earth would this guy know Amber was leaving,when no one in the States has said anything? I've been to Slayage, and there's nothing. I've been to The Essence of Amber and there's nothing. I went to the Watcher's Web, Spoiler Slayer, Buffy UPN, the Bronze, and The BC&S, and NOBODY has reported anything about this. You would think that if there was any truth to this people would be jumping all over this. The way the post was written made it seem as though he has some kind of inside information, but as I've already mentioned, he uses Wanda and E!Online as a source, so... Also, he only has two links...the official one and a fansite. Suspect, it's very suspect. It's been TWO days since this guy posted that info!!!

Besides, even if (and I seriously doubt this) they weren't going to renew Amber's contract, why on earth would they choose NOW to announce it? Especially when from what we've seen, they're headed for a reconciliation? It makes no sense! It would be quite moot.

Trust no one!!! Until we hear something really official, have faith in the basic kitten philosophy!!! W/T smoochies to all!!!

--Sela

[willowtarasandwich]

and thanks to Sela as well - I knew you decent people would cheer me up.

Now all we need is some credible evidence of a true reconciliation and then we can look forwards to ep22 with happies!!!!

[Jamraza]

Sounds completely bogus to me... Plus it's always good to wait for confirmation before remotely believing something

[Dr.G]

This is crap, lets remember the first post of this thread and move on to real spoilers, that is what this thread is for.

[xita]

Well though I didn't state anything about AMber leaving in the first post, this is really a pointless thing to worry about. Worry not kitties, this is BS.

[KJ_Chicago]

Thanks xita, hope it is bogus.

[Warduke]

Well this is what I think of these "spoilers"...

Now, like Garfield said, let's move on to real spoilers.

[tommo]

Nice ass, Brian. As always.

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No metaphors...just fucking.

[Ange]

I found this. All the spoilers, apparantly the true one, for the next episode:

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Episode 17 Title: "Normal Again"
First Shown: 3/12/02
Written by Diego Gutierrez.
Directed by Rick Rosenthal.

This will be Diego's first episode. This MAY be the episode which Herc thought would be number 8. If you go to Ep. 18 Spoiler, and read the scriptlet, they refer to Buffy, while not sane, attacking Tara and Willow, and injuring Willow, but Buffy is, in Ep. 18, enjoying refreshing sanity. This insanity would be in this episode. (Confirmed) It appears that this is an altered reality episode, with Buffy not knowing what is real. I am hoping the BSD occurs in this altered reality. I don't want to lose any Scoobies in our reality.

Posted by TV Now
After being poisoned, Buffy comes to believe that she is confined to a mental hospital and that her life as a vampire slayer never really existed.

Posted by TV Guide on 2/26/02.
A demon doses Buffy with a powerful chemical that causes her to hallucinate, convincing the Slayer her parents are alive and Dawn never existed. Joyce Summers: Kristine Sutherland. Hank Summers: Dean Butler. Andrew: Tom Lenk. Jonathan: Danny Strong. Warren: Adam Busch. Giles: Anthony Stewart Head. Buffy: Sarah Michelle Gellar. Willow: Alyson Hannigan.

Posted by Sweetie
-We find out something very interesting about Buffy. I've been asked by a lot of people if it has something to do with Spike and I'll just say this - yes, in the long run.
-NEW! - Not only do we find out something interesting about Buffy, but there's also a particular scene where she goes a little crazy. Circumstances are unknown right now, but she ends up hurting and majorly freaking out some people she loves.
-We realize that the writers have been misleading us with a certain storyline.
-Buffy is forced to make an unfortunate decision.

Posted by David Fury on the Bronze Beta on 1-25-02
As to the whole Buffy wasn't in heaven idea... There's an interesting answer on that question in episode 17.

Willow and Tara patch up their differences.

Joyce will make an appearance, probably dream or flashback.

Posted by GiftofAmber on 2/19/02
Tara is in the episode. The nerds are in the episode. Joyce is in the episode. It is an altered reality episode.

Posted by GiftofAmber on 2/20/02.
Tara saves Willow during the Buffy fight then Willow saves Tara without using magic.

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Just a question.
What does it mean: "Willow and Tara patch up their differences"??

Sorry, i'm just a poor french, who doesn't understand everything....

Ange.

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[VampNo1]

"Patch up their differences" means they resolve their problems, and move beyond them to resume their relationship in one form (romantic or platonic). I'm confused though, didn't the Dark Sheep's spoilers indicate they were to get together in episode 18 and not 17? What I think may happen is if Buffy does attack Willow and Tara in episode 17, they will realize what they could lose if one or the other got seriously hurt. This would rekindle more of their love, and put them in the right direction to recncillation. However, I don't think actually reconcile at least until the end of episode 18 (just my speculation).

[This message has been edited by VampNo1 (edited March 07, 2002).]

[tyche]

So, I'm thinking that, with the asylum stuff in 'Normal Again', does Buffy come to think that being in heaven was some kind of hallucination, in the same way she 'hallucinated' her Slayer life?
Or not. I'm sleep-deprived at the moment, indulge me...

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Tara: Nice baffroom.
Anya: (noddin') Like the bleedin' tile. - 'The Yoko Factor' in Cockney

[BBOvenGuy]

Okay, I'm bringing back something that was posted yesterday and then deleted. It has to do with the Big Scooby Death, but I checked with the mods and they determined that it does in fact qualify as "new, substantial, and legitimate spoilers regarding a possible big scoobie death as it relates to Willow and Tara."

It should also help reassure some folks who got rattled by the BS on the last page.

This is from the Amber interview that just came out in the UK Buffy magazine. If you want to read the entire interview, you'll find it on this page of that thread.

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Can you talk about where you think Tara may be going this season?
I personally think she and Willow are probably going to get back together. We haven’t shot that yet, but I think that’s where it’s headed.

So about this rumour that somebody dies...
[Laughs] I can’t say. I will give you a hint, though. It’s not Xander.

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What strikes me as particularly interesting - and encouraging - about this passage is the fact that Amber laughs when the Big Scooby Death rumor is mentioned. It's as if she knows what's been going around the net all year and thinks it's funny. I could be wrong, but it suggests to me that the rumors we've been hearing are way way off. I still think there might not be any Big Scooby Death at all.

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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)

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[mat]

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Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
I still think there might not be any Big Scooby Death at all.

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I *completely* agree with you. The whole of Season Six is based on characters, couples and more importantly emotion. But we have seen the emotion that comes following a loved one's death last year in 'The Body' followed by 'Forever'. What would be the point in doing this again? Umm none!

Okay I had this whole big thought process going on then which made perfect sense but it is late here and my brain can't work *sobs*

BB | Mat |

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[BBOvenGuy]

Well, one thing I've noticed is that there seem to be a lot of people who are unhappy with the mundane turn that this season has taken. They can't handle the fact that there's no Big Bad and that the Scoobies are facing problems which have more to do with living in reality than with fighting metaphorical monsters. I can't help thinking that the two big rumors that have been pushed so adamantly - a Scooby being killed and a Scooby turning into a Big Bad - are some sort of wish fantasy for people looking to break out of the direction Buffy has chosen.

That's just my opinion, though.

[Sela]

I'm a bit perturbed by the negative energy that abounds on other boards. It's okay to disagree with character depictions and storyline arcs, but it's never okay to attack the people involved with the show. I feel for Marti Noxon. She gets banged around far too often. And I personally feel she's doing a wonderful job.

All I can say about this season is that I'm along for the ride. I have complete confidence in the writers and producers of the show. They're the ones with the big plans, and ultimately, when all is said and done, everything will fall into place.

--Sela

[the literary exterminator]

I don't think it's as much fantasy as it is expectation. Every season has had some kind of Big Bad. Every season has had some kind of important death. This season, the trio isn't really big or that bad in the apoclyptic sense, and who else could fill that role at this point but a Scooby, seeing as no other characters have been developed enough? This season, the only significant death has been a character we've seen in one other episode, and who could be significant but a Scoob?

My own opinion is that many people watch Buffy waiting for the spectacular events ... the shocking murders ... the intimidating villains ... and the longer we wait for such an event, the more spectacular the event has to be. You can look at this two ways ... either the event will, in fact, rock your world, or there is no event, and the point of this season is that our lives are every bit as difficult as the Scoobies where there isn't always a grad finale or big climax, just perseverance.

I agree that the two big rumors are related in why they are perpetuated so adamantly, but I don't think that people are unhappy with the season, maybe just weirded out ...

On a completely different note, if I wanted to ask people about speculative ideas (i.e. the Buffy being pregnant hints), where might I do this? Is there a thread for this, or do the mods discourage such behavior, especially if not directly W/T related?

[Dazey]

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Originally posted by VampNo1:
Wasn't there a fake rumor one season that had Aly's publicist saying she wasn't happy with her storyline and wanted to leave the show (complete crap).

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Actually, during S4 Aly's publicist did issue a press release saying just that--as an April Fool's Day joke. It wasn't released to the actual press, just online I think, and if you read it it was pretty obvious that it was a joke, but a lot of people got completely freaked anyway. As you might imagine.

The whole thing was Aly's idea, I believe. That girl's got a wicked streak in her.

So again, what't the moral here? Don't believe everything you read.

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[Willowlicious]

As sad and painful as some parts of this season have been, I've been impressed and pleased that the producers have chosen to delve deeply into the psychological and emotional lives of our beloved characters. It's always been what BtVS is about anyway. I'm sorry if some poor folks (not on this board) thought Buffy was actually about monsters and Big Bads.

I think the arcs this season are brave and inspired, providing needed growth to the characters and--bonus--acting to keep the show's writers and actors engaged and interested by approaching the show from a slightly different angle. I hate shows where you can only tell the first season from the seventh because of the hairstyles, seeing as the stagnant character arcs provide no clue. And good god, the cast and crews of those shows must be so bored. (Gee, I was just reading an article about how folks at both Dawson's Creek and ER are bored out of their skulls and dying to leave those shows.) Not to mention the audience. Yawn.

Anyway, I like Marti Noxon. I always want Joss to be very involved, but I like the tone she's provided this season. Besides, she's admittedly a bit of a perv and I think she provides us the best chance for hot W/T sex scenes!

Finally, I'm with Bob (actually, I'm with myself as I've also been saying this fairly consistantly). I don't think there necessarily is a BSD. It has already been done to, well, death. This season is about learning to live with what and who you have. It's about picking up the pieces after life has done you way wrong and choosing to live anyway. And doing it responsibly even though you want to do escapist things or seek vengeance or wallow in numbness.

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it. Be brave. Live....

Amy

P.S. However, just so I can keep my 100% accurate spoiler rating, let me also say they could ALL die in Ep. 22. Just thinking about my reputation!

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[mariacomet]

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Originally posted by Willowlicious:
However, just so I can keep my 100% accurate spoiler rating, let me also say they could ALL die in Ep. 22. Just thinking about my reputation!

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Actually, I am gonna say they all both live AND die in ep 22. Covering ALL the bases, ya knowquote:

[Willowlicious]

Heh. I was counting on the fact that they lived through 21 complete eppys and 3/4 of the 22nd to pull my rating through. That's close enough. Besides, if they died at such a late date, it would have to be because the writers changed their minds at the last minute. My sources are never wrong, after all!

[miss_spangles]

At this point, i am thinking that everyone (with the exception of Jonathan - don't know why I think that, just an inkling - and of course Warren and Andrew) is fairly safe . It doesn't seem like this season is at all about a big shocking death, etc. etc. but rather the more everyday battle to grow up and deal with yourself rather than an outside evil. And of course, Willow and Tara have had far too much work going into their character development this season to leave them all that vulnerable to sudden death, well, that's what I think