General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

[Reddygirl]

Rane, you just nailed it down as to why an X/A marriage wouldn't be boring....; as some one whose parents have 6 marriages between them, I am only too aware the wedded state isn't always blissful!

[salsashark]

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Originally posted by Rane:
wiccie: joss *is* there for the day today stuff, even wardrobe. didn't he actually have to go and post that at the bronze or something when people began to attack marti?

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Word, Rane. The 'Joss has spread himself too thin' mantra is getting more and more ridiculous.

[QUOTE}[B]AND I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE BUILDING SHAKING! we just had another aftershock! [/QUOTE]

Trust me, it's all Xita's fault. Really.

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You have no idea what it's like on the other side. Nothing's in control. Nothing makes sense. There's just pain and hate and nothing you do means anything

<br>Faith, "Sanctuary"quote:

[miss_spangles]

Anyone else seen these on Tensai's site? originally from the cross and stake (but not AngelX)
Anyway,

Episode 17 is going to be an emotional roller coaster ride for *all* the pairings. Big angsty episode but things do work out for Willow and Tara by the end of the episode.

Does this mean we get our big make up scene in episode 17?

[judy]

Where did Joss rush to the Bronze to defend Marti's honor??? I just looked thru the VIP archives and saw nary such a post.

[Rane]

ok, so maybe it wasn't the bronze but i know he did. honest. oops, maybe it wasn't him him. maybe it was another writer talking about joss and marti. i know i read it somewhere and i was very happy because i knew he'd never completely let the show out of his hands. someone did mention that though.

i'm sure a resourceful kitten will soon show up with the quote. i know i suck at resourcefulness. maybe it was deknight? argh! i dont remember. sorry!

EDITED: AH! cupie doll for me! it was fury:
Fury says:
(Thu Jan 10 23:00:252002)
For those who doubt, I'm here to say Joss is every bit around. Every day. The ship is still being steered by him, so quit speculating otherwise.

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[BBOvenGuy]

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Originally posted by miss_spangles:
Anyone else seen these on Tensai's site? originally from the cross and stake (but not AngelX)
Anyway,

Episode 17 is going to be an emotional roller coaster ride for *all* the pairings. Big angsty episode but things do work out for Willow and Tara by the end of the episode.

Does this mean we get our big make up scene in episode 17?

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Well, the C&S is very much a jekyll-and-hyde kind of place. If AnGeL X posted it there, it's highly reliable. If AnGeL X didn't post it there... it's anybody's guess, really.

I've been saying that W/T would probably go through one more angsty roller-coaster episode before their reunion. It'd be nice to have that happen as early as episode 17, but I'd like to see a little more evidence before we break out the bubbly.

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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)

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[Robin]

Well, I got a question: In some of the posts here it was mentioned that Marti Noxon once said "....was blown out of proportion...".
Did she mean the whole W/T breakup was blown out of proportion or was she talking about the "Tara's gonna die-rumours"?

[Wiccagrrl]

She was talking about the Tara's gonna leave for good/die rumors. Not the breakup, but more idea that Tara's future on the show was uncertain/on shakey ground.

[BBOvenGuy]

Marti's "blown out of proportion" comment came in one of those syndicated "TV Q&A" columns where people write in with questions. Someone was expressing concern because they thought Tara would be written out in the wake of the breakup.

Marti's response was that people were blowing the whole breakup out of proportion - that Willow and Tara were just working through some problems in their relationship, the way all couples do, and that Amber was under the same contract she was under last year and therefore wouldn't be leaving the show.

I'm sure someone can dig up the exact quote. It's around here somewhere.

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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)

[Reddygirl]

The epi 17 spoilage was posted by BB at the BC& S. BB is a regular poster, he wouldn't make stuff up, but I don't know who his source is so it's hard to judge the accuracy. However, Tensai's analysis of why it's possibly true makes sense to me.

[BBOvenGuy]

Ah yes... Buff's Bloke. I know him.

I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just being cautious. I've been insisting on evidence for all the bad W/T rumors that have been going around, so I figure it's only fair that I insist on evidence for the good ones, too.

[Robin]

Thanks for the fast answers! That's good enough for me.

[lurker1.0]

Yea, as much as we're all hoping for some good news on the W/T front, we have to take everything we get and think about it carefully. No sense getting our hopes up only to be shut down. But if that little tidbit on Ep.17 is true or just a sense of what's true then I'll be one very happy kitty

[Reddygirl]

I'm holding on to Steve's post at the Bronze. He's an absolute sweetie and would never jokingly answer the way he did if you know what was really going to happen.

[miss_spangles]

Yep, I guess it's good to take even great rumours with a grain of salt. But I'm just really happy to see positive rumours going around about Willow and Tara. Makes a change from the past year, that's for sure But yes, caution is good

[Willowlicious]

Now, just wait a gosh-darn second! There are possible spoilers (I guess those would be rumors, then) that Willow and Tara might just work it all out and Tara's not gonna die? What's gonna keep me up at night now? What's gonna drive me to drink? What's gonna make me cranky and whiney? Dammit! Now I'm gonna have to be HAPPY! At least until next Tuesday when another round of "the rumor that shall not be named" starts again. Sigh.

sulks off to happily watch "Doublemeat Palace

[Blixxt]

Interesting new bit of updated info from Angel X. It's just a tidbit, but I like it.

Amy makes an appearance in "Doublemeat Palace," but Rack is not likely to return and Amy's last appearance on good terms with Willow is in 12.

We already knew the Amy part, but many people have been assuming that Rack will be back. Considering how often he is invoked in the Tara death/Willow becoming the Big Bad theories, him not returning would be a good thing.

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[BBOvenGuy]

I always thought Rack looked like a one-time character, personally. He didn't seem to have any ambition worthy of a Big Bad. Amy's reference to Willow as "Rack's new favorite" seemed to imply that Rack changes favorites often, and so he struck me as just this guy who hangs out inside his magically concealed house waiting for magic-junkies to seek him out.

Big Bads always want something. Rack seems perfectly content to let everything come to him. Yeah, he'll miss Willow, but he's not going to rampage through Sunnydale looking for her. Someone else will take her place soon enough.

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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)

[Kendahl897]

For some reason, I can't seem to log on to the BC&S site (whatever it's called). Could someone PLEASE post what the spoiler for episode 17 is concerning Willow and Tara? PLEASE.....

[Blixxt]

It wasn't so much that Rack would be the Big Bad but more he would be instrumental in turning Willow into Dark Willow. The common theory/100% true rumor!!! I saw was that Willow would fall off the wagon, return to Rack and then Tara would be killed when she went to rescue her. Rack is also mentioned in a number of rather questionable spoilers out there, such as Futureman's incredibly ludicrous ones on the AICN message boards. Thus, if Rack doesn't return, then at least those particular rumors are deflated.

As for Kendahl897's question, the posting is just a page back or so, but I'll paste it again here:

Episode 17 is going to be an emotional roller coaster ride for *all* the pairings. Big angsty episode but things do work out for Willow and Tara by the end of the episode.

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[Kendahl897]

Thank you so much. That's five weeks away, right? By work out, you mean get back together, big love scene, etc? Right?

[Blixxt]

We don't know, that's all the spoiler had to say on that issue. But considering that we know Willow saves Tara from a demon in episode 16, I could honestly see such a reconcilliation happening, or at least the beginning of one. Hopefully more information will surface in the near future.

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[Wiccagrrl]

Yep, Willow saves Tara from a demon...and apparently doesn't resort to magic to do it. Big step.

[Moonchild]

I'm not sure if the intended meaning was that Rack is not likely to show up again (as in ever) or if it was to say that while Amy will appear in the DMP episode, Rack is not likely to appear (in the DMP episode). I will feel a little cheated if they don't have him back in at least one episode because I would like to see Willow face him down and refuse his offer of his special brand of magic. Also, I don't really understand what he meant when he first gave Willow the first experience of his magic and then asked her if she wondered what she could do for him. Was just "tasting" her and reading her mind what he wanted? If so, what did he really get out of that, other than saying her flavor was strawberry? Also, I would like resolution on the whole demon-carrying-the-girl thing in Willow's trip that scared her. I want to know who that was or who it represented. So I would like to see one more Rack episode or at least an episode that wrapped all of those questions up.

[Blixxt]

The girl that the demon is carrying in Wrecked has already been explained. According to the shooting script, Willow looks at the girl and realizes it looks like her (i.e. Willow).

Also, I'm pretty certain Angel X means Rack is unlikely to appear for the rest of the season. She placed this news in the General Season 6 info area as opposed to under a specific episode. Considering DMP has already aired and we know what happens from the Wildfeed, it would be very strange for her to say Rack is *unlikely* to appear in that episode, considering that's something we already know.

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[Sheila]

After watching the preview for next week...

I don't know if the power of my mind made me see things (you know when you want something really, really bad?) but, after rewinding the tape 3 or 4 times and putting in slow motion (gosh, I'm bad...), I could swear I saw Tara sitting on the couch at Buffy's and someone that pretty much looked like Willow was on her knees in front of her, very, very close. I think their hands were touching. I don't think it was Dawn because there was no long hair (we couldn't see the faces because of the words on the screen... it was a weird preview, IMO) and the body looked like Willow's. I don't know, but if this is right, I have a big Woo-hoo here. :-) I know it doesn't mean anything, hell, for all we know, Tara can be telling her to never talk to her again. But, noooo, we know better than that, don't we? That has to be Willow's next step! And Tara has to do something too. I mean, she was, is, will always be, the most important part of Willow's life, she can't just be out of the loop completely! She wouldn't do that, no matter how hurt she is. She's much better than that.

Well, I guess another week and we'll know. At this point, I don't even care what she's going to do, I just want her there!!! I can't stand another Tara-less episode...

[Kendahl897]

You know, I kind of hate to say this, but maybe now that Willow has been " violated" by Amy, someone she thought of as a friend, maybe she will see just how badly she hurt Tara, when she " violated" her mind...It's kind of poetic justice, you know. Still think Willow is a good guy, but maybe now she realizes how wrong she was. You just can't play with people like that....Willow's not going to be the Big Bad. She's made mistakes for selfish reasons, but her heart is good and she's paid for them....

[Popje]

Interesting that AngelX says it's Amy's last friendly meeting with Willow. This could mean she returns, but on unfriendly terms. I wonder...

[Moonchild]

Thanks, Blixxt. I didn't hear about the shooting script with Willow realizing the girl looks like her (Willow). That clears a lot of things up for me. I used to think it was a look into the future, but maybe it was just a "bad trip" on dark Magick as she came down from the high of it.

[Blixxt]

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Originally posted by Popje:
Interesting that AngelX says it's Amy's last friendly meeting with Willow. This could mean she returns, but on unfriendly terms. I wonder...

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Oh, I'm pretty sure we're not done with Amy yet. If anything I believe she's contracted for a few more episodes. I have a feeling she may be a big part of the addiction storyline climax, possibly showing where Willow would have ended up if she had continued on her dark path. Some people have also speculated Amy will end up with Warren, but please realize that is just speculation.

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