General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

[BBOvenGuy]

"You're not far off" means that this person is, in fact, still off. This isn't horseshoes. Close doesn't count.

Actually nothing counts without evidence, and so far there has still been no evidence that anyone is dying. Wanda's just stringing people along.

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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)

[supermus]

It means nothing. Wanda knows squat. She's just BSing her way through the BSD.

Failing that, I guess it could be that it's another thing involving a name that's a charm or something.

[Kendahl897]

Wanda already stated back on January 28th that Tara was not the big Scooby death ( not her exact words, but something cryptic about better odds of Tara not being the BSD than being hit by lightning)..Besides, Joss hates the standard "lesbian dies" you get on other shows. Also, Marti and one of the writers have strongly implied (maybe even said, not sure) that Tara is not going anywhere...Remember the mantra...

[Winns]

sorry i haven't been following up this '4th's the charm' thing about the rumoured BSD... can anyone fill me in with that???

and who's wanda?? i mean is she someone who'd read the script well in advance???

[hollowchick]

I think Wanda is inferring by that lame "Fourth one's the charm" hint that someone (most likely Anya or Xander) will die as a result of a vengenance spell. This is from The Wish ;

The next day, Cordy is angry at Buffy, blaming her for everything that had went wrong in her life. Anya, feeling it was time for Cordelia’s wish, took off her ‘good luck charm’ & put it around Cordy’s neck. Not even thinking, Cordy, being the spouty mouth that she is, said “I swear! I wish Buffy Summers had never come to Sunnydale.” Anya turned to her in her demon face & said ‘Done.’

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[TyRex316]

ROFLOL-This whole BSD business is way past the point of being silly and pathetic, because you can twist and turn anything some 'spoiler-guru' says and insert your least favorite character. Bob and the rest are right it could mean anything and probably means nothing. just another vague non-answer that was posted here to simply gain some measure of painicked responses IMO.

[AutumnT]

You'd think it was Tuesday.

Some one poke me when we get to talk about real spoilers again. I'll be napping in the corner.

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Autumn

I have the sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation.

[CPS Boy]

Ok, so all you trekkies out there, have you heard of the Theory of Evens? It basically means that only every other Star Trek Movie is any good. This is shown to be true as Star Treks 2, 4, 6, and 8 were really good, and 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 where less than good. By this theory Star Trek 10, Nemesis should be good.
Yes I am going somewhere with this. Have you noticed that Buffy seasons tend to follow a simular pattern. Not the good/bad pattern, as they have all been good. But I have noticed that in seasons 1, 3, and 5, the scoobies have been a very tight nit, family like group. We see a lot of bonding between the members of the family, and the group is stable, coheasive, and and generally very close. Seasons 2, 4, and 6, on the other hand, we have seen the groups splintered (to one degree or another), distant, isolated and splintered from one another. This season has been especially bad (Giles leaving, Tara and Willow breaking up, Buffy is increasingly distant and isolated, Spike (like the evildoer he is), is working to keep her that way, Dawn is alone most of the time, Xander and Anya are heading for a fall, etc...). But by this theory, we should see much more scooby goodness next season, which, thank Gawd, because the group dynamics, interactions, and obvious affection between the members of the scoobies is what keeps me watching. In social work terms, I long to see the reunification of this family. Questions? Comments?

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The good fight, aye?

[Scout]

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Originally posted by Winns:
sorry i haven't been following up this '4th's the charm' thing about the rumoured BSD... can anyone fill me in with that???

and who's wanda?? i mean is she someone who'd read the script well in advance???

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Wanda is the self-described ‘television expert’ at E!Online. She does a chat (among other activities, like hosting Buffy TV specials that don’t include Amber/Tara – I’ll never let go of that, so don’t even bother) and likes to give out cryptic hints during those chats.

Last year she had some worthy tips, especially about the finale, but this year her sources dried up very early and none of us knows if her cryptic hints (‘fourth one’s the charm’) about the BSD are based on meaningful spoilers or are simply part of her desperate attempt to stay relevant.

AngelX is probably the most reliable spoiler source this season. Sometimes you’ll see her posting on this board. Her word is golden.

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[GODisTigger]

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Originally posted by Aoliaak:
"4th one's the charm" ....Tara, who has four letters in her name.

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I don't understand where people get the "4 letters in a name" from that. It says "4th one is the charm" not "4 is the charm". That would be more like something from a list or a group which could be anything. 4th in Alpha order? 4th in credit order? 4th oldest? 4th youngest? 4th tallest? 4th shortest? and so on. Ack, too much thinking on such a vague thing. I'm done with it.

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[supermus]

There was a spoiler last summer that the BSD would have to do with the number 4. This is where the 4-letter thing comes from, and probably where the fourth one's a charm thing came from.

[Aoliaak]

Yeah, uhm...

Just someone who posted here to make you all run in panic over Wanda's latest dellusions wishes to say that she's learned her lesson. Bad Aoliaak. Should very well go hang myself. Copy/pasting info bad.

[BBOvenGuy]

What lesson is that? That we don't scare easily?

We've been through this way too many times to let Wanda spook us with her little cryptic comments.

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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)

[Wiccagrrl]

Yep, we Kittens have been developing pretty thick skin and very long memories Perhaps we should be the Elephant board...

[The Partyman]

I have studied and mesitated upon this "4 letter word" idea, and I have found the answer.

The four letter / BSD is:

BULL

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The Partyman

[xita]

I think it's closely followed by another four letter word:

SHIT

[Ari]

What I find kind of funny is that, if you want to presume that Wanda does indeed have some insight into a major character's death, the one and only character she has - twice now - sort of cleared from the list of potential corpses is Tara.

Not that I expect this to mean anything with regard to the rampant speculation that she's going to bite it. The moment the credits rolled for the first time this season and she wasn't there, a lot of folks made up their mind she wasn't going to survive the season. But it is kind of amusing, nontheless, that as much as people love to speculate about Wanda's clues, that's one little factoid most seem to overlook.

Ari

[GODisTigger]

Oh, but all the "Tara Dies" people will probably say it's a diversionary tactic of course!!!

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[Tensai]

I didn't know if I should start a new thread for this, but I've gotten what I consider to be accurate information for "Normal Again". It backs up what I posted earlier...

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"Normal Again" – A demon’s attack inflicts Buffy with a poisonous venom that leaves her tortured with visions of herself in a mental hospital.

As the poison renders Buffy unable to distinguish between reality and the hallucinations, she starts to believe her parents are still alive and Dawn and her life as a Vampire Slayer never existed.

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The source also tells me that Dean Butler and Anthony Stewart Head are listed among the cast, along with Kristine Sutherland.

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[Blixxt]

I actually wouldn't be at all surprised if the Anthony Stewart Head information is true. It really makes sense that he'd be at the wedding, and so him then being in the next one works as well. I'm just wondering if he'll stay for the remaining episodes, leave in episode 17, or leave in episode 17, not be there for a bit, and then come back for the last two. That last sentence made my head hurt.

[morgan1707]

"Fourth one's a charm". Please. That could mean Anya, Tara, Dawn, even Hank for Christ sakes! I have plenty of four letter words for Wanda, but I don't think it's appropiate to post them here. But as time goes on, I don't believe that there will be a Scooby death. I just don't believe it anymore.

And thanks for the spoilers for "Normal Again". It's nice to have something new to digest while we seem to be in spoiler drought.

[AutumnT]

UPN released official info for "Normal Again" today which is why I think we've seen some spoilers for it. Mods, should this go in a mini-spoilers thread or is that just for like TV Guide stuff?

A DEMON’S POISON LEAVES BUFFY QUESTIONING REALITY, ON "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER," MARCH 12

Kristine Sutherland Returns as Buffy’s Mother, Joyce Summers

"Normal Again" – A demon’s attack inflicts Buffy with a poisonous venom that leaves her tortured with visions of herself in a mental hospital, on BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, Tuesday, March 12 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on UPN. Rick Rosenthal directed the episode from a script by Diego Gutierrez.

As the poison renders Buffy unable to distinguish between reality and the hallucinations, she starts to believe her parents are still alive and Dawn and her life as a Vampire Slayer never existed.

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Autumn

I have the sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation.

[Errol]

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Originally posted by AutumnT:
UPN released official info for "Normal Again" today which is why I think we've seen some spoilers for it. Mods, should this go in a mini-spoilers thread or is that just for like TV Guide stuff?

A DEMON’S POISON LEAVES BUFFY QUESTIONING REALITY, ON "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER," MARCH 12

Kristine Sutherland Returns as Buffy’s Mother, Joyce Summers

"Normal Again" – A demon’s attack inflicts Buffy with a poisonous venom that leaves her tortured with visions of herself in a mental hospital, on BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, Tuesday, March 12 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on UPN. Rick Rosenthal directed the episode from a script by Diego Gutierrez.

As the poison renders Buffy unable to distinguish between reality and the hallucinations, she starts to believe her parents are still alive and Dawn and her life as a Vampire Slayer never existed.

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Thanks Tensai and Autumn T for the spoiler.

Buffy will think she is just a normal girl with no powers and will remember her life with her parents. But Buffy is not going to remember being a Slayer or Dawn. And if Buffy doesn't remember being a Slayer then she won't probably recognize or fully know the Scoobies or Spike. This will probably be why she thinks she's crazy in a mental ward. The Willow, Tara, and the others will have to save her in the end and bring her back to reality. Poor Dawn this will be really hurtful and will most likely add to her insecurities. Plus Buffy will attack Willow in this episode and may threaten the others. So poor Buffy, poor Dawn, poor Willow, etc. This sounds like a really dramatic episode that will feature a lot of angst and pain for Buffy and her loved ones. Can't Buffy, Dawn, and the gang ever catch a break?

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"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." - Theodore Roosevelt

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[Wiccagrrl]

If ASH is in this ep, I do wonder how he will fit in. Part of Buffy's fantasies/ hallucinations? Still around after the wedding? Didn't go to the wedding, but shows up at the end of this ep after hearing Buffy's really ill?

[xita]

sure autum the official upn listing can go in the mini spoiler thread.

[Blixxt]

I'm guessing it's not going to be Giles showing up late but rather him still being around after the wedding. The TV guide credits have him in episode 16, and though we still don't know what happens in the fourth act, I'm guessing things will be somewhat unresolved (at least not enough to say "Bye Giles"). It may just have him for a minute on the plane, but it could be more than that.

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[GiftofAmber]

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Originally posted by Willowfan:
I heard that Buffy goes a little mad (Crazy, mad...not angry mad)...and starts choking Willow. Slayer strength and all. Tara comes to her rescue and realizes how much she still loves Willow. Just what I heard.
Willowfan

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Nice to see a fellow Spoiled BRAT here. I guess that must explain the Tara saves Willow and then Willow saves Tara without magic spoiler I got for ep 17.

hkiara
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[Wiccagrrl]

Oh, I love the sound of those spoilers

[Dr.G]

Well I like the sound of Tara coming to the rescue, but she does not need that to realize how much she still loves Willow, it is so very obvious she still does, very much so, and she never stopped, and never will. But I can see this as a gentle shove back in the right direction, you know, into each other's arms.

[Sponge Bob Squarepants]

Spoilers from tv tome, i don't think i'd seen them up anywhere, sorry if they are.

Episode Number 116
First Aired March 5, 2002
Production Code 6ABB16
Writer Rebecca Rand Kirshner
Director David Solomon

Guest Stars: Kali Rocha (as Halfrek) Abigail Mavity (as Sarah) Amber Benson (as Tara) James C. Leary (as Clem) Andy Umberger (as D'Hoffryn) Casey Sander (as Mr. Harris) Lee Garlington (as Mrs. Harris)

Synopsis

The date of the wedding is set and Xander and Anya are preparing for the hoards of "guests" to arrive. While Xander's screwed up human family go head to head with Anya's mostly non-human friends, a special guest comes to Xander to warn him that his life with Anya may not turn out to be the married bliss he has hoped for.

Episode Information
Episode Number 117
Writer Diego Gutierrez

Synopsis

We find out something very interesting about Buffy - in the long run, it's to do with Spike.
In an exciting new twist to this years storyline, Buffy is forced to make an unfortunate decision.

Episode Information
Episode Number 118
Writer Drew Z. Greenberg

Synopsis

Willow And Tara both very much alive. Willow and Tara are on the road to reunion.