It's the Spoiler Thread
continued from Thread #4Ok, brand new start to the spoiler thread. Let's keep it confined to spoilers this time. If you want to go off in tangets, may I suggest the daily thread
Also, this is very important for those of us in the know, there are very disturbing spoilers floating out there. However, we have all heard them and debated them to death. So I will asks posters, unless there are new, substantial, and legitimate spoilers regarding a possible big scoobie death, do not post about it. We know, we are worried, we take them seriously but we can't spend all our time talking about them. You will be promptly edited or deleted.
Esteemed established kitties, do not be tempted to reply to trolls. If there are people who insist on bringing this negativity to our spoiler thread, clearly state our policy and notify any of the mods! Do not engage in a flame war with them.
Now on to actual spoilers!!
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From AngelX when she made her gracious visit to our board:
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Alright... I've been lurking around here for far too long. I'm AnGeL X of the Buffy Cross & Stake. No one seems to be plotting my death around here, so hopefully no one will mind if I drop by now and then. *g*
Slightest bit of spoilage cause I've noticed it's become a big discussion point... Tara is *very* supportive of Buffy and her relationship with Spike. She's supportive of Buffy no matter what she decides. They bond over a mutual understanding of "keeping a secret about who they're sleeping with." Her teasing of Spike in "Older and Far Away" is entirely playful and extremely hilarious. To me, at least--Spike's adorable when he's squirming.-Michelle
The interacting is tense until the end. Tara is still very hurt by Willow's magic use and something happens in 14 that only makes matters worse--not magic use, but something related. Typical uncomfortable behavior between ex's. Saying the wrong thing, not knowing what to say, that kind of thing. They're both very nervous about being in the same house/room together, but Tara's there cause Buffy wants her there. The ending is good though. They part on good terms which holds some promise for the future.As far as the other question regarding "keeping secrets..." It's a gay/lesbian reference we hear in "Dead Things." Buffy's ashamed of her relationship with Spike and Tara's able to relate--not necessarily about being ashamed, but about keeping a secret about the people she's been involved with.
-Michelle
I've notified all of my sources and have them hunting for information. All I know right now is that none of them have heard anything about her death. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or another, but it's better than direct info that says she will die.-Michelle
They don't really label Buffy's thoughts about Tara. Buffy goes to her first for help with the resurrection spell. For many reasons, she can't go to Willow, so she has Tara research the spell and find out what exactly the spell did.
In the end, when the truth is out, Tara's just there as a really good friend for Buffy. She's supportive of Buffy regardless of why Buffy's involved with Spike. That really brings the two of them together in a friendly way. Buffy finally gets the truth out to someone and she doesn't get shot down for it. Buffy fears and as far as she's concerned, knows, that her friends will be ashamed of her and look down on her for her involvement with Spike. Tara understands Buffy's situation and doesn't do that.
-Michelle
No, there's just a line in the final scene where Tara rather bluntly explains that because she's a lesbian, she understands Buffy's feelings about keeping secrets about relationships.One more happy tidbit... There's a nice W/T moment in ep 13. Just a quick run-in, but it's sweet.
Oh and yes, Tito and Xander's love affair will be brought into the light before the wedding. But shhh...it's supposed to be a surprise for sweeps!
On that note, later folks! Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.
-Michelle
now from gift of amber:
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TARA IS IN EPISODE 16!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tara finds herself pulled into a fight with a hairy demon.I'm going to go through and find more stuff, but I wanted to let everyone know
---Tara tells Anya that she doesn't think it's a good idea to include "sex poodle" in her vows.
I'm trying to figure out if she survives the "fight", but I'm not sure I have stuff for that far. I will let you know when I know.--Buffy, Willow, and Dawn talk about Xander walking out on the wedding.
--Xander checks into a crappy motel.
The fight is described as "fists and tentacles flying", so there is nothing to lead me to believe a death is involved, plus the talking about Xander is after the fight, and they wouldn't be talking about Xander if Tara had just been killed.
--The girl Spike was with, he can't remember her name when asked, so he asks her, and she says her name is "Tarantula".
--Anya is practising her vows, "I promise to have sex with you whenever...I want", and doesn't want to use the word cherish.I don't know about the maid of honor thing...it's possible...we don't know for sure who it is.
--Warty Demon offers to help with the coffee maker, but can't fix it, and Xander then fixes it.
--"Hymeneal Salutations"....D'Hoffryn says to Dawn.
--Uncle Rory picks up a GIRL caterer in front of Dawn.
--Dawn is talking to a demon teen about who has a worse family. The teen offers her a Shirley Temple.
--Buffy acts out charades on stage at the lodge.
From Autumn:
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A whole bunch of revisions were just released today. I'm going through them now. So far my favorite Tara line is to Anya "Uh, I'm not sure you should say 'sex poodle' in your vowsOK, there is no indication in the sides that Tara is harmed in any way. The notation of her being "pulled into the fray" means getting in the middle of a big Harris Family/Demon argument.
Also, there are two partial scenes where Tara is helping Anya with her vows.Edited to add:
Looks like Lia and I have the same info at the same time. My *impression* based on reading this is that Tara may very well be the maid of honor as she is alone with Tara in working through and going over her vows. However nothing I read states that for sure.Autumn
And Rane, the maid of honor thing was just an impression based on the fact that twice Tara and Anya were working on vows.Also, a lot of rewites from the last set that went out. For instance Xander no longer asks if the magical orb is from Willow, etc. So this one give the impression very much of a script still in progress. Just FYI. Could be more changes.
The reason for my in progress comments were because there were SO many updates today with new characters, etc as well as rewrites to a lot of the scenes that came before. That usually indicates it is undergoing a lot of massaging. The other sides I've seen this season did not have nearly the amount of revisions as these did.
Also, looks like Halfrek is also a bridesmaid.
Might be tough Bob. A lot of it is interiors. And most of it take place it what was first an Elks lodge and has now migrated into a Bison's lodge during rewrites.
General spoilers from the cross and stake
quote:General Season 6
Crossovers with Angel are unlikely. If they are necessary, they will happen.
No new Slayer. Joss says no. When Faith dies, a new Slayer will be called, but otherwise, no.
Anthony Stewart Head is contracted as a recurring star for the 6th season.
Amy makes an appearance in "Doublemeat Palace," but Rack is not seen again up through ep. 14 and Amy's last appearance on good terms with Willow is in 12.Doublemeat Palace
Ep: 12. Airdate: 1/29/02. Writer: Jane Espenson.
With the super villains mysteriously "gone" for the ep, the show returns to a good monster-of-the-week episode. And the hero of the episode? Not Buffy.
Buffy gets a job in fast food (hence the title), and when co-workers start ending up in pieces, the mystery behind the meat comes into question.
Willow works on staying clear of magic, but Amy gives her an unwanted gift and Willow is forced to make a big decision.
Buffy tries to ignore the temptation that is Spike, but fails. A little sexual taunting and innuendo turns into much more.
Updated Halfrek, a vengeance demon friend of Anya's visits and Anya's life as a demon and her relationship with Xander is questioned and thought about by the soon-to-be-wed couple.
Dead Things
Ep: 13. Airdate: 2/5/01. Writer: Steven S. DeKnight. Director: James A Contner
This will *not* be lighthearted. Mostly dark material (sex/violence) and some scenes that may not make it to air.
Warren uses another gadget to make his ex-girlfriend Katrina a willing slave to him and his pals, but when the effects wear off and Katrina tries to escape the grasp of the nerdy supervillains, she's accidentally killed. (This is the death of the episode and this is probably the real source of the "rape" rumors. There is no actual rape scene, but indications and accusations of non-consensual behavior.)
There is a cute post-sex scene between Buffy and Spike where they chat about decorating and their relationship. For the Bronze Scene description go: here. (I will not be addressing the nature of the other sexual material of this episode on this page due to the potential for removal from the ep and the lack of necessity for raunchy details.)
With the use of magic and demonic forces, Warren and friends set up Buffy to make her think *she* killed Katrina--and it works.
Spike tries to help Buffy after the incident and keep her from confessing to the crime, but his efforts, including voluntarily taking a vicious verbal/physical thrashing from the Slayer, are useless. (Spike's efforts are useless, that doesn't mean Buffy confesses.)
Dawn and Xander waltz together in preparation for Xander's wedding--to Anya. (Jeez, ya silly people. There is no Dawn/Xander romance!)
Buffy discovers the truth behind her returning back to life "wrong." It's the worst thing she could want it to be.
Updated After learning about the spell that brought her back, Buffy confesses to Tara the truth about her and Spike and amidst all her confusion and shame, breaks down into tears.(For the spoiler hounds who want the episode and its ending completely ruined check out Extra Spoilage for Buffy's "wrongness.")
Older and Far Away
Ep: 14. Airdate: 2/19/02. Writer: Drew Greenberg.
Buffy's birthday ep. A party gathers at the Summers house with the usual suspects and a few old and new faces as well. Surprisingly, the party itself goes of without much complication, but the next morning is another story.
Updated Denied necessary attention from her sister and others, Dawn's wish to keep people from going away is answered by a demonic friend (*cough*Halfrek*cough*) who binds the attendees of Buffy's birthday bash to the house. Of course, with a dangerous monster also confined with them.
Dawn's stealing habits are discovered.
Jealousy runs wild as Xander and Anya set Buffy up with a guy at her party and Spike shows up unexpected by Buffy.
Anya freaks about being locked in the house, but Xander is there to calm and reassure her that everything is okay.
Tara is very much alive at the end of this ep. (She doesn't die in/before this ep and I have no confirmed info that she will at all--this is just me helping out Tara fans, it means nothing more than it says.)
As You Were
Ep: 15. Airdate: 2/26/02. Writer: Doug Petrie.
Riley returns for an episode. Not dead but of the living...and married. Buffy's own "relationship" with Spike comes into question when her ex's perfect romance shows her just what she doesn't have.
Episode 16
Ep: 16. Writer: Rebecca Rand Kirshner.
Xander and Anya's wedding!
and angelx's super extra spoilery extra spoilage
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*kisses xita wetly and eagerly*
If my new browser allowed me to chat I would be running into the chat room to plant kisses and more on every xita nook and cranny... but alas I have to install something and am too tired right now...
Oh and just to keep this on-topic ...
do we have ANY info on what Amy's unwanted gift to Willow is in Doublemeat Palace? I may very well have missed this info in the last thread...
Are we allowed to discuss AnGeL X's extra spoilage re: Buffy coming back "wrong"????
(yes, shameless spoiler ho that I am I broke down and read it...)
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Oh goodie, all the spoilers neatly collected.
Thanks Xita.
Now we have some detailed info on ep 14 and ep 16, but not much on ep 15. I am mostly just curious if Tara will be in that ep.
*Editing to add some bitter jealousy
You know it was *my* idea to start this thread anew as well you know, now snog me too!
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Isn't it filming now, and isn't Amber over at Sundance?
I don't know Judy, I don't have a problem with it, i mean it's a spoiler right? As long as that stays in here I don't see why not.
Oh and we have no idea what the gift is but I do remember seeing on cross and stake that Amy and Willow didn't part on good terms, I can't find that now though. Ooh, here it is, I will add it up the post above...
Also, yes kisses are mine Garfield Back off!!
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Pffffffff, tssssk & pooh aren't we formal.
I would not mind Amber Benson not being in ep 15 btw, the possible W/T stuff in 14 sounds good enough to hold me over till ep 16, heh. And I am actually rather curious how the whole Riley coming back thing will work out.
Editing: will you please *not* edit your post when I am in the process of replying? That brings back unhappy memories, you called me dr.g. pffffffff & tssssssssk again.
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It seems that I have offended and I apologize...
I would just like the chance to defend one of my updates (and it has absolutely nothing to do with the BSD)
Just in regards to the Wedding being a possible two-part episode, that was something which was posted at the Cross and Stake Spoiler Board (which I was addressing because other boards have been talking about it).
When I said 'The First Part We Know', I was referring only to the spoilers for the Wedding that we've heard so far. The poster was the one who suggested that the episode ends with Xander shacking up in the motel, not myself. I have nothing that would indicate the Wedding being two parts, however it does seem possible.
That's all I have to say, I just wanted to clarify my position.
-Tensai (who finds it a bit amusing that he's gone from a 'legend' to a 'pariah' in less than a week).
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I think a couple of people were upset for not being credited for spoilers they broke first. If boards needed to be the title given, then perhaps that's what it should have been. I didn't think anyone thought you were a pariah tensai.
And I see you have clarified the "we know statement" which by the way as far as I can tell is only backed up by that rather suspicious post on cross and stake. Nobody else has stated where xander is at the end of the ep. And rereading yet again, I am still confused by what you mean. Do you mean the first part of the episode we know? or the xander flees part?
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I understand Gift of Amber's feelings, as she *was* the first person to break the news. Right after she posted I went to AICN to see if they had the info yet and they didn't. In spite of that, Herc is going to be the one getting the credit because he was the first 'offical' site to post it. Personally I think the Spoiler Thread for the Kitten Board should count as our spoiler page, but apparently it doesn't. Ah well.
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tinkcat from the Watchers' Diary board just met Eliza Dushku .. and asked her if she was coming back to 'Buffy'. Go here to read what Eliza said....
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Well, we now know nothing is really wrong with Buffy (you said we can talk about that, right?) and we hear Tara is upset at the beginning of ep 14 because of something additional that's related to the magic, so I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Honestly, that seemed destined to come up again and I'd rather everything was out in the open so the girls can begin reconciling with a clean slate. This would seem like the right time for it to come out.
I also wonder if Buffy begins to distance herself emotionally/physically from Spike once she finds out that nothing major is wrong and her humanness is reaffirmed. That would explain why they seem to be on the outs in upcoming eps. It will be interesting to see where that goes.
As for the wedding ep being two parts, that doesn't make a lot of sense because the second part would definitely fall outside of sweeps (regardless of the Olympics), so why let the event spread into two shows when the big payoff ep will not even be in sweeps. Just doesn't seem likely to me.
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spoiler room since I missed this one, probably others did as well...
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Originally posted by Scout:
I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Exsqueeze me? What is the deer sacrafice?
Someone please help me, I need to be entirely spoiled.
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No need for spoiler space in the spoiler thread. We're all spoiled rotten here!
I was referring to the deer Willow sacrificed in 'Bargaining' in order to get the final ingredient for the resurrection spell. She covered that up in both 'Bargaining' and 'Afterlife' and I thought Tara would probably discover it when she looks into the spell for Buffy.
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Rally, didn't you watch the Bargaining? One of the ingredients of the spell needed to resurrect Buffy was the blood of a little fawn. Willow stabbed and killed one in a ritual way, right in the middle of the woods during a sunshiny day. It clearly hurt her very much having to do this, and she did not tell the others this was part of the spell. She pretended she got the mystery ingredient from the "black market". Maybe Tara will find this out as she is investigating the exact nature of teh spell at Buffy's request. (Interesting point Scout).
*editing to add a little sigh as Scout beat me to it.
*sigh*
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No I didn't see the Bargaining. But I did download it yesterday and of course it will be on Tuesday night and I will finally be caught up with all of S5 and S6.
Thanks for the info.
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Ah have fun with the watching Rally, it is quite an intense episode, but with lots of wonderful W/T moments. If you wish to discuss it after you have seen it, or if you want to spoil yourself even more now, you can use the Discussion : S6E1&2 - Bargaining thread.
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Thank you Garfield - your explanation was more thorough than mine.
As Garfield said, it clearly hurt Willow that she had to do it and if she hadn't done it they couldn't have raised Buffy, so while it was painful, it was still necessary. The problem Tara might have with the ritual is that Willow didn't trust her enough to tell her about it on a couple different occasions. However, if the issue does come up in ep 14, it doesn't appear to be a major problem because they are on good terms at the end of the show. (yay!)
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Yeah indeed Scout, if Tara does find out, I think she would mostly be hurt by the fact that Willow did not tell. But I can understand why she did not tell, I do not imagine it as being a big issue for very long, considering the other -uhm- bigger ones, and yeah back on friendly terms *before* the wedding.
Editing to add: Thanks for that link Tyche, that post gave me a smile, and Eliza sounds like a lovely lady, and interested in returning as well, Hmmm.
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Originally posted by tyche:
tinkcat from the Watchers' Diary board just met Eliza Dushku .. and asked her if she was coming back to 'Buffy'. Go here to read what Eliza said....
Now that was very interesting. Gee, Faith used to be a Scooby did she not?
xita - I would think that they would be just starting filming 16 now depending on how long a holiday break that they got.
Tensai - thanks for the clarification, I found your wording very confusing. Also, I'm not offended though you are much more enamoured with Herc than I am.
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quote:
Originally posted by xita:
If boards needed to be the title given, then perhaps that's what it should have been.
Which is usually what would happen, but the issue becomes more complex once the ranked sites posts the Spoiler. Since in all probability (and not diminishing the popularity of this board) most of the fans who stop by the site are going to see them at AICN.
Plus, since Herc doesn't timestamp his posts, it's very hard to judge who actually got the information first. This wasn't a problem in the past, the issue becomes trickier with the sides because anyone can access them.
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Originally posted by Blixxt:
I understand Gift of Amber's feelings, as she *was* the first person to break the news. In spite of that, Herc is going to be the one getting the credit because he was the first 'offical' site to post it. Personally I think the Spoiler Thread for the Kitten Board should count as our spoiler page
I apologize to Gift of Amber for not crediting her in the original post, that was due more to the fact that I was pushing my deadline and trying to get the info out on time. I think my record of always trying to quote the original source is pretty good, it just gets difficult sometimes to juggle the various information I have coming in.
The problem with considering the Kitten Board as an 'Official Spoiler Site' is more about the rankings. The entire intent behind ranking sites, is to give people an answer to the question "I saw such and such at this site, how reliable is it?" With a message board-based spoiler thread, it gets trickier. False or inaccurate spoilage could get posted, and the ranking is designed to be more of a blanket statement.
Logistically speaking, crediting every site and thread on the actual 'Spoiler Slayer' page would be a nightmare. Which is why I try to stick to the big categories. However, I always credit or mention the original source on the 'Spoiler Speculation' page (though obviously I messed up this time around)
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Originally posted by xita:
Nobody else has stated where xander is at the end of the ep. And rereading yet again, I am still confused by what you mean. Do you mean the first part of the episode we know? or the xander flees part?
Again, I'm not always great with the phrasing when I'm rushed (and I has 'West Wing' spooling on the Tivo). The entire intention was to say...
"So and so says the Wedding will be a Two-Parter, We already know the First Part (all of Episode 16, based on Spoilage we've heard so far), which is supposedly going to end with Xander shacking up in a motel. The second part (Episode 17)..."
Again, whether or not this is true I'm completely one the fence. However, one thing to remember is that Buffy was one of the first shows to start using the 'cliffhanger from one episode into another' (which is being used quite a bit currently on 'Alias' and '24'). So I could imagine that Episode's 16 - 22 could be one's in which the story is left hanging at the end of each episode. It makes sense, but that doesn't mean that's what will happen.
Once again, big apologies to Gift of Amber.
-Tensai
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I hope that spoilers is true... sorry to be negative, but I've grown tired of the character.
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Thanks Xita and Dr. G,
I am glad you restarted the thread. The Xander and Tito stuff was beyond ridiculous especially since Tito has only been in one scene.
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I hope that spoilers is true... sorry to be negative, but I've grown tired of the character.
What character?
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quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
Well, we now know nothing is really wrong with Buffy (you said we can talk about that, right?) and we hear Tara is upset at the beginning of ep 14 because of something additional that's related to the magic, so I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Um... not sure where this came from, but not exactly true. Tara does get upset with Willow during ep 14, but it's not until well into the episode.
As far as the deer, it doesn't come into play. Tara doesn't find anything in the spell that's really suspicious and issues with it are not raised with Willow later in 14.
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ok, i'm sorry but they cannot kill off faith. (hehe, she's too hot and all repent-y now!) besides, that'll spring up a new slayer and... oh, maybe that's buffy's next step. watcher... hmmm... but if her molecular structure is wrong what does that mean? she will age faster, slower? stay the same? ok enough speculating.
as for the wedding i really, really doubt it that they would leave it as a two parter. like i posted in the last thread buffy and xander are just going to have to grow up (it's the theme afterall). i'm pretty sure he will end up marrying anya in the end (after his stint in the motel he'll have a revelation that his future is his doing, he can change it, and yeah anya will let him know it was a demon too). but it's life, he is in love with her (isn't he? i know i have my doubts sometimes) but he needs to grow up. this is the next step for him, face it head on.
and i'm very interested to see how'll it'll go with buffy and spike once she knows the truth about the spell. personally, it's getting old for me (all the sex) spike's one of the most devoted guys, but like tara said he's only doing it for the love of a woman and men that are bumpy never get the girl in the end. (ok, so she said something like that)
and willow and tara... sigh... aw, geez... honestly, i wouldn't mind them not getting back together this season. (WAIT! DONT KILL ME YET) what willow did to tara is completely unforgivable, once i'd understand, twice, i'd walk out too. BUT, having Willow defeat her addiction to power and dark magicks is a first step towards reconciliation. that i want to see asap and by the end of the season! we see hints that they will begin to communicate and hopefully they can start again. but then i'd go crazy all summer waiting to see what happens. so maybe a couple of mini kisses like we saw in the gift would be cool.
ok, i've spent way too much time writing! i need to go study.
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Thanks AngelX for stopping by and posting I really appreciate any bits on Willow and Tara you can give us. It's not fantastic that there is still tension in 14 between Willow and Tara but I'm hoping it will all at least start to become a little better after that Anyway, thanks again.
Edited to say - Tensai - don't worry, I still think you're pretty cool. Your site is a wonderful voice of reason in a world of spoiler speculation that can sometimes go insane
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*kisses xita wetly and eagerly*
If my new browser allowed me to chat I would be running into the chat room to plant kisses and more on every xita nook and cranny... but alas I have to install something and am too tired right now...
Oh and just to keep this on-topic ...
do we have ANY info on what Amy's unwanted gift to Willow is in Doublemeat Palace? I may very well have missed this info in the last thread...
Are we allowed to discuss AnGeL X's extra spoilage re: Buffy coming back "wrong"????
(yes, shameless spoiler ho that I am I broke down and read it...)
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posted January 17, 2002 02:56 *kisses xita wetly and eagerly*If my new browser allowed me to chat I would be running into the chat room to plant kisses and more on every xita nook and cranny... but alas I have to install something and am too tired right now...
Oh and just to keep this on-topic ...
do we have ANY info on what Amy's unwanted gift to Willow is in Doublemeat Palace? I may very well have missed this info in the last thread...
Are we allowed to discuss AnGeL X's extra spoilage re: Buffy coming back "wrong"????
(yes, shameless spoiler ho that I am I broke down and read it...)
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Oh goodie, all the spoilers neatly collected.
Thanks Xita.
Now we have some detailed info on ep 14 and ep 16, but not much on ep 15. I am mostly just curious if Tara will be in that ep.
*Editing to add some bitter jealousy
You know it was *my* idea to start this thread anew as well you know, now snog me too!
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posted January 17, 2002 03:00 Oh goodie, all the spoilers neatly collected.Thanks Xita.
Now we have some detailed info on ep 14 and ep 16, but not much on ep 15. I am mostly just curious if Tara will be in that ep.
*Editing to add some bitter jealousy
You know it was *my* idea to start this thread anew as well you know, now snog me too!
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Fantastico posted January 17, 2002 03:02
Isn't it filming now, and isn't Amber over at Sundance?
I don't know Judy, I don't have a problem with it, i mean it's a spoiler right? As long as that stays in here I don't see why not.
Oh and we have no idea what the gift is but I do remember seeing on cross and stake that Amy and Willow didn't part on good terms, I can't find that now though. Ooh, here it is, I will add it up the post above...
Also, yes kisses are mine Garfield Back off!!
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posted January 17, 2002 03:02 Isn't it filming now, and isn't Amber over at Sundance?I don't know Judy, I don't have a problem with it, i mean it's a spoiler right? As long as that stays in here I don't see why not.
Oh and we have no idea what the gift is but I do remember seeing on cross and stake that Amy and Willow didn't part on good terms, I can't find that now though. Ooh, here it is, I will add it up the post above...
Also, yes kisses are mine Garfield Back off!!
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Registered: Jan 2001 posted January 17, 2002 03:09
Pffffffff, tssssk & pooh aren't we formal.
I would not mind Amber Benson not being in ep 15 btw, the possible W/T stuff in 14 sounds good enough to hold me over till ep 16, heh. And I am actually rather curious how the whole Riley coming back thing will work out.
Editing: will you please *not* edit your post when I am in the process of replying? That brings back unhappy memories, you called me dr.g. pffffffff & tssssssssk again.
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posted January 17, 2002 03:09 Pffffffff, tssssk & pooh aren't we formal.I would not mind Amber Benson not being in ep 15 btw, the possible W/T stuff in 14 sounds good enough to hold me over till ep 16, heh. And I am actually rather curious how the whole Riley coming back thing will work out.
Editing: will you please *not* edit your post when I am in the process of replying? That brings back unhappy memories, you called me dr.g. pffffffff & tssssssssk again.
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted January 17, 2002 03:35
It seems that I have offended and I apologize...
I would just like the chance to defend one of my updates (and it has absolutely nothing to do with the BSD)
Just in regards to the Wedding being a possible two-part episode, that was something which was posted at the Cross and Stake Spoiler Board (which I was addressing because other boards have been talking about it).
When I said 'The First Part We Know', I was referring only to the spoilers for the Wedding that we've heard so far. The poster was the one who suggested that the episode ends with Xander shacking up in the motel, not myself. I have nothing that would indicate the Wedding being two parts, however it does seem possible.
That's all I have to say, I just wanted to clarify my position.
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posted January 17, 2002 03:35 It seems that I have offended and I apologize...I would just like the chance to defend one of my updates (and it has absolutely nothing to do with the BSD)
Just in regards to the Wedding being a possible two-part episode, that was something which was posted at the Cross and Stake Spoiler Board (which I was addressing because other boards have been talking about it).
When I said 'The First Part We Know', I was referring only to the spoilers for the Wedding that we've heard so far. The poster was the one who suggested that the episode ends with Xander shacking up in the motel, not myself. I have nothing that would indicate the Wedding being two parts, however it does seem possible.
That's all I have to say, I just wanted to clarify my position.
-Tensai (who finds it a bit amusing that he's gone from a 'legend' to a 'pariah' in less than a week).
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Fantastico posted January 17, 2002 03:51
I think a couple of people were upset for not being credited for spoilers they broke first. If boards needed to be the title given, then perhaps that's what it should have been. I didn't think anyone thought you were a pariah tensai.
And I see you have clarified the "we know statement" which by the way as far as I can tell is only backed up by that rather suspicious post on cross and stake. Nobody else has stated where xander is at the end of the ep. And rereading yet again, I am still confused by what you mean. Do you mean the first part of the episode we know? or the xander flees part?
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posted January 17, 2002 03:51 I think a couple of people were upset for not being credited for spoilers they broke first. If boards needed to be the title given, then perhaps that's what it should have been. I didn't think anyone thought you were a pariah tensai.And I see you have clarified the "we know statement" which by the way as far as I can tell is only backed up by that rather suspicious post on cross and stake. Nobody else has stated where xander is at the end of the ep. And rereading yet again, I am still confused by what you mean. Do you mean the first part of the episode we know? or the xander flees part?
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Registered: Oct 2001 posted January 17, 2002 04:06
I understand Gift of Amber's feelings, as she *was* the first person to break the news. Right after she posted I went to AICN to see if they had the info yet and they didn't. In spite of that, Herc is going to be the one getting the credit because he was the first 'offical' site to post it. Personally I think the Spoiler Thread for the Kitten Board should count as our spoiler page, but apparently it doesn't. Ah well.
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tinkcat from the Watchers' Diary board just met Eliza Dushku .. and asked her if she was coming back to 'Buffy'. Go here to read what Eliza said....
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posted January 17, 2002 04:14 tinkcat from the Watchers' Diary board just met Eliza Dushku .. and asked her if she was coming back to 'Buffy'. Go here to read what Eliza said....IP: LoggedScoutBig Pineapple Posts: 902
Registered: Jun 2001 posted January 17, 2002 08:24
Well, we now know nothing is really wrong with Buffy (you said we can talk about that, right?) and we hear Tara is upset at the beginning of ep 14 because of something additional that's related to the magic, so I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Honestly, that seemed destined to come up again and I'd rather everything was out in the open so the girls can begin reconciling with a clean slate. This would seem like the right time for it to come out.
I also wonder if Buffy begins to distance herself emotionally/physically from Spike once she finds out that nothing major is wrong and her humanness is reaffirmed. That would explain why they seem to be on the outs in upcoming eps. It will be interesting to see where that goes.
As for the wedding ep being two parts, that doesn't make a lot of sense because the second part would definitely fall outside of sweeps (regardless of the Olympics), so why let the event spread into two shows when the big payoff ep will not even be in sweeps. Just doesn't seem likely to me.
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posted January 17, 2002 08:24 Well, we now know nothing is really wrong with Buffy (you said we can talk about that, right?) and we hear Tara is upset at the beginning of ep 14 because of something additional that's related to the magic, so I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.Honestly, that seemed destined to come up again and I'd rather everything was out in the open so the girls can begin reconciling with a clean slate. This would seem like the right time for it to come out.
I also wonder if Buffy begins to distance herself emotionally/physically from Spike once she finds out that nothing major is wrong and her humanness is reaffirmed. That would explain why they seem to be on the outs in upcoming eps. It will be interesting to see where that goes.
As for the wedding ep being two parts, that doesn't make a lot of sense because the second part would definitely fall outside of sweeps (regardless of the Olympics), so why let the event spread into two shows when the big payoff ep will not even be in sweeps. Just doesn't seem likely to me.
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I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Exsqueeze me? What is the deer sacrafice?
Someone please help me, I need to be entirely spoiled.
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Originally posted by Scout:
I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Exsqueeze me? What is the deer sacrafice?
Someone please help me, I need to be entirely spoiled.
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Registered: Jun 2001 posted January 17, 2002 09:42
No need for spoiler space in the spoiler thread. We're all spoiled rotten here!
I was referring to the deer Willow sacrificed in 'Bargaining' in order to get the final ingredient for the resurrection spell. She covered that up in both 'Bargaining' and 'Afterlife' and I thought Tara would probably discover it when she looks into the spell for Buffy.
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posted January 17, 2002 09:42 No need for spoiler space in the spoiler thread. We're all spoiled rotten here!I was referring to the deer Willow sacrificed in 'Bargaining' in order to get the final ingredient for the resurrection spell. She covered that up in both 'Bargaining' and 'Afterlife' and I thought Tara would probably discover it when she looks into the spell for Buffy.
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Registered: Jan 2001 posted January 17, 2002 09:45
Rally, didn't you watch the Bargaining? One of the ingredients of the spell needed to resurrect Buffy was the blood of a little fawn. Willow stabbed and killed one in a ritual way, right in the middle of the woods during a sunshiny day. It clearly hurt her very much having to do this, and she did not tell the others this was part of the spell. She pretended she got the mystery ingredient from the "black market". Maybe Tara will find this out as she is investigating the exact nature of teh spell at Buffy's request. (Interesting point Scout).
*editing to add a little sigh as Scout beat me to it.
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posted January 17, 2002 09:45 Rally, didn't you watch the Bargaining? One of the ingredients of the spell needed to resurrect Buffy was the blood of a little fawn. Willow stabbed and killed one in a ritual way, right in the middle of the woods during a sunshiny day. It clearly hurt her very much having to do this, and she did not tell the others this was part of the spell. She pretended she got the mystery ingredient from the "black market". Maybe Tara will find this out as she is investigating the exact nature of teh spell at Buffy's request. (Interesting point Scout).*editing to add a little sigh as Scout beat me to it.
*sigh*
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Registered: Dec 2001 posted January 17, 2002 09:48
No I didn't see the Bargaining. But I did download it yesterday and of course it will be on Tuesday night and I will finally be caught up with all of S5 and S6.
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posted January 17, 2002 09:48 No I didn't see the Bargaining. But I did download it yesterday and of course it will be on Tuesday night and I will finally be caught up with all of S5 and S6.Thanks for the info.
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Registered: Jan 2001 posted January 17, 2002 09:55
Ah have fun with the watching Rally, it is quite an intense episode, but with lots of wonderful W/T moments. If you wish to discuss it after you have seen it, or if you want to spoil yourself even more now, you can use the Discussion : S6E1&2 - Bargaining thread.
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posted January 17, 2002 09:55 Ah have fun with the watching Rally, it is quite an intense episode, but with lots of wonderful W/T moments. If you wish to discuss it after you have seen it, or if you want to spoil yourself even more now, you can use the Discussion : S6E1&2 - Bargaining thread. IP: LoggedScoutBig Pineapple Posts: 902
Registered: Jun 2001 posted January 17, 2002 10:19
Thank you Garfield - your explanation was more thorough than mine.
As Garfield said, it clearly hurt Willow that she had to do it and if she hadn't done it they couldn't have raised Buffy, so while it was painful, it was still necessary. The problem Tara might have with the ritual is that Willow didn't trust her enough to tell her about it on a couple different occasions. However, if the issue does come up in ep 14, it doesn't appear to be a major problem because they are on good terms at the end of the show. (yay!)
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posted January 17, 2002 10:19 Thank you Garfield - your explanation was more thorough than mine.As Garfield said, it clearly hurt Willow that she had to do it and if she hadn't done it they couldn't have raised Buffy, so while it was painful, it was still necessary. The problem Tara might have with the ritual is that Willow didn't trust her enough to tell her about it on a couple different occasions. However, if the issue does come up in ep 14, it doesn't appear to be a major problem because they are on good terms at the end of the show. (yay!)
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Registered: Jan 2001 posted January 17, 2002 10:27
Yeah indeed Scout, if Tara does find out, I think she would mostly be hurt by the fact that Willow did not tell. But I can understand why she did not tell, I do not imagine it as being a big issue for very long, considering the other -uhm- bigger ones, and yeah back on friendly terms *before* the wedding.
Editing to add: Thanks for that link Tyche, that post gave me a smile, and Eliza sounds like a lovely lady, and interested in returning as well, Hmmm.
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posted January 17, 2002 10:27 Yeah indeed Scout, if Tara does find out, I think she would mostly be hurt by the fact that Willow did not tell. But I can understand why she did not tell, I do not imagine it as being a big issue for very long, considering the other -uhm- bigger ones, and yeah back on friendly terms *before* the wedding.Editing to add: Thanks for that link Tyche, that post gave me a smile, and Eliza sounds like a lovely lady, and interested in returning as well, Hmmm.
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tinkcat from the Watchers' Diary board just met Eliza Dushku .. and asked her if she was coming back to 'Buffy'. Go here to read what Eliza said....
Now that was very interesting. Gee, Faith used to be a Scooby did she not?
xita - I would think that they would be just starting filming 16 now depending on how long a holiday break that they got.
Tensai - thanks for the clarification, I found your wording very confusing. Also, I'm not offended though you are much more enamoured with Herc than I am.
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posted January 17, 2002 10:46quote:
Originally posted by tyche:
tinkcat from the Watchers' Diary board just met Eliza Dushku .. and asked her if she was coming back to 'Buffy'. Go here to read what Eliza said....
Now that was very interesting. Gee, Faith used to be a Scooby did she not?
xita - I would think that they would be just starting filming 16 now depending on how long a holiday break that they got.
Tensai - thanks for the clarification, I found your wording very confusing. Also, I'm not offended though you are much more enamoured with Herc than I am.
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Originally posted by xita:
If boards needed to be the title given, then perhaps that's what it should have been.
Which is usually what would happen, but the issue becomes more complex once the ranked sites posts the Spoiler. Since in all probability (and not diminishing the popularity of this board) most of the fans who stop by the site are going to see them at AICN.
Plus, since Herc doesn't timestamp his posts, it's very hard to judge who actually got the information first. This wasn't a problem in the past, the issue becomes trickier with the sides because anyone can access them.
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Originally posted by Blixxt:
I understand Gift of Amber's feelings, as she *was* the first person to break the news. In spite of that, Herc is going to be the one getting the credit because he was the first 'offical' site to post it. Personally I think the Spoiler Thread for the Kitten Board should count as our spoiler page
I apologize to Gift of Amber for not crediting her in the original post, that was due more to the fact that I was pushing my deadline and trying to get the info out on time. I think my record of always trying to quote the original source is pretty good, it just gets difficult sometimes to juggle the various information I have coming in.
The problem with considering the Kitten Board as an 'Official Spoiler Site' is more about the rankings. The entire intent behind ranking sites, is to give people an answer to the question "I saw such and such at this site, how reliable is it?" With a message board-based spoiler thread, it gets trickier. False or inaccurate spoilage could get posted, and the ranking is designed to be more of a blanket statement.
Logistically speaking, crediting every site and thread on the actual 'Spoiler Slayer' page would be a nightmare. Which is why I try to stick to the big categories. However, I always credit or mention the original source on the 'Spoiler Speculation' page (though obviously I messed up this time around)
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Nobody else has stated where xander is at the end of the ep. And rereading yet again, I am still confused by what you mean. Do you mean the first part of the episode we know? or the xander flees part?
Again, I'm not always great with the phrasing when I'm rushed (and I has 'West Wing' spooling on the Tivo). The entire intention was to say...
"So and so says the Wedding will be a Two-Parter, We already know the First Part (all of Episode 16, based on Spoilage we've heard so far), which is supposedly going to end with Xander shacking up in a motel. The second part (Episode 17)..."
Again, whether or not this is true I'm completely one the fence. However, one thing to remember is that Buffy was one of the first shows to start using the 'cliffhanger from one episode into another' (which is being used quite a bit currently on 'Alias' and '24'). So I could imagine that Episode's 16 - 22 could be one's in which the story is left hanging at the end of each episode. It makes sense, but that doesn't mean that's what will happen.
Once again, big apologies to Gift of Amber.
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posted January 17, 2002 11:51quote:
Originally posted by xita:
If boards needed to be the title given, then perhaps that's what it should have been.
Which is usually what would happen, but the issue becomes more complex once the ranked sites posts the Spoiler. Since in all probability (and not diminishing the popularity of this board) most of the fans who stop by the site are going to see them at AICN.
Plus, since Herc doesn't timestamp his posts, it's very hard to judge who actually got the information first. This wasn't a problem in the past, the issue becomes trickier with the sides because anyone can access them.
quote:
Originally posted by Blixxt:
I understand Gift of Amber's feelings, as she *was* the first person to break the news. In spite of that, Herc is going to be the one getting the credit because he was the first 'offical' site to post it. Personally I think the Spoiler Thread for the Kitten Board should count as our spoiler page
I apologize to Gift of Amber for not crediting her in the original post, that was due more to the fact that I was pushing my deadline and trying to get the info out on time. I think my record of always trying to quote the original source is pretty good, it just gets difficult sometimes to juggle the various information I have coming in.
The problem with considering the Kitten Board as an 'Official Spoiler Site' is more about the rankings. The entire intent behind ranking sites, is to give people an answer to the question "I saw such and such at this site, how reliable is it?" With a message board-based spoiler thread, it gets trickier. False or inaccurate spoilage could get posted, and the ranking is designed to be more of a blanket statement.
Logistically speaking, crediting every site and thread on the actual 'Spoiler Slayer' page would be a nightmare. Which is why I try to stick to the big categories. However, I always credit or mention the original source on the 'Spoiler Speculation' page (though obviously I messed up this time around)
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Nobody else has stated where xander is at the end of the ep. And rereading yet again, I am still confused by what you mean. Do you mean the first part of the episode we know? or the xander flees part?
Again, I'm not always great with the phrasing when I'm rushed (and I has 'West Wing' spooling on the Tivo). The entire intention was to say...
"So and so says the Wedding will be a Two-Parter, We already know the First Part (all of Episode 16, based on Spoilage we've heard so far), which is supposedly going to end with Xander shacking up in a motel. The second part (Episode 17)..."
Again, whether or not this is true I'm completely one the fence. However, one thing to remember is that Buffy was one of the first shows to start using the 'cliffhanger from one episode into another' (which is being used quite a bit currently on 'Alias' and '24'). So I could imagine that Episode's 16 - 22 could be one's in which the story is left hanging at the end of each episode. It makes sense, but that doesn't mean that's what will happen.
Once again, big apologies to Gift of Amber.
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I hope that spoilers is true... sorry to be negative, but I've grown tired of the character.
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posted January 17, 2002 12:06 I hope that spoilers is true... sorry to be negative, but I've grown tired of the character.IP: LoggedThe RoseWillowhand Posts: 426
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Thanks Xita and Dr. G,
I am glad you restarted the thread. The Xander and Tito stuff was beyond ridiculous especially since Tito has only been in one scene.
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I hope that spoilers is true... sorry to be negative, but I've grown tired of the character.
What character?
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I hope that spoilers is true... sorry to be negative, but I've grown tired of the character.
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Well, we now know nothing is really wrong with Buffy (you said we can talk about that, right?) and we hear Tara is upset at the beginning of ep 14 because of something additional that's related to the magic, so I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Um... not sure where this came from, but not exactly true. Tara does get upset with Willow during ep 14, but it's not until well into the episode.
As far as the deer, it doesn't come into play. Tara doesn't find anything in the spell that's really suspicious and issues with it are not raised with Willow later in 14.
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posted January 17, 2002 14:13quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
Well, we now know nothing is really wrong with Buffy (you said we can talk about that, right?) and we hear Tara is upset at the beginning of ep 14 because of something additional that's related to the magic, so I'm wondering if while investigating the spell, she finds out about the deer sacrifice and Willow having covered that up - twice.
Um... not sure where this came from, but not exactly true. Tara does get upset with Willow during ep 14, but it's not until well into the episode.
As far as the deer, it doesn't come into play. Tara doesn't find anything in the spell that's really suspicious and issues with it are not raised with Willow later in 14.
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ok, i'm sorry but they cannot kill off faith. (hehe, she's too hot and all repent-y now!) besides, that'll spring up a new slayer and... oh, maybe that's buffy's next step. watcher... hmmm... but if her molecular structure is wrong what does that mean? she will age faster, slower? stay the same? ok enough speculating.
as for the wedding i really, really doubt it that they would leave it as a two parter. like i posted in the last thread buffy and xander are just going to have to grow up (it's the theme afterall). i'm pretty sure he will end up marrying anya in the end (after his stint in the motel he'll have a revelation that his future is his doing, he can change it, and yeah anya will let him know it was a demon too). but it's life, he is in love with her (isn't he? i know i have my doubts sometimes) but he needs to grow up. this is the next step for him, face it head on.
and i'm very interested to see how'll it'll go with buffy and spike once she knows the truth about the spell. personally, it's getting old for me (all the sex) spike's one of the most devoted guys, but like tara said he's only doing it for the love of a woman and men that are bumpy never get the girl in the end. (ok, so she said something like that)
and willow and tara... sigh... aw, geez... honestly, i wouldn't mind them not getting back together this season. (WAIT! DONT KILL ME YET) what willow did to tara is completely unforgivable, once i'd understand, twice, i'd walk out too. BUT, having Willow defeat her addiction to power and dark magicks is a first step towards reconciliation. that i want to see asap and by the end of the season! we see hints that they will begin to communicate and hopefully they can start again. but then i'd go crazy all summer waiting to see what happens. so maybe a couple of mini kisses like we saw in the gift would be cool.
ok, i've spent way too much time writing! i need to go study.
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posted January 17, 2002 16:01 ok, i'm sorry but they cannot kill off faith. (hehe, she's too hot and all repent-y now!) besides, that'll spring up a new slayer and... oh, maybe that's buffy's next step. watcher... hmmm... but if her molecular structure is wrong what does that mean? she will age faster, slower? stay the same? ok enough speculating.as for the wedding i really, really doubt it that they would leave it as a two parter. like i posted in the last thread buffy and xander are just going to have to grow up (it's the theme afterall). i'm pretty sure he will end up marrying anya in the end (after his stint in the motel he'll have a revelation that his future is his doing, he can change it, and yeah anya will let him know it was a demon too). but it's life, he is in love with her (isn't he? i know i have my doubts sometimes) but he needs to grow up. this is the next step for him, face it head on.
and i'm very interested to see how'll it'll go with buffy and spike once she knows the truth about the spell. personally, it's getting old for me (all the sex) spike's one of the most devoted guys, but like tara said he's only doing it for the love of a woman and men that are bumpy never get the girl in the end. (ok, so she said something like that)
and willow and tara... sigh... aw, geez... honestly, i wouldn't mind them not getting back together this season. (WAIT! DONT KILL ME YET) what willow did to tara is completely unforgivable, once i'd understand, twice, i'd walk out too. BUT, having Willow defeat her addiction to power and dark magicks is a first step towards reconciliation. that i want to see asap and by the end of the season! we see hints that they will begin to communicate and hopefully they can start again. but then i'd go crazy all summer waiting to see what happens. so maybe a couple of mini kisses like we saw in the gift would be cool.
ok, i've spent way too much time writing! i need to go study.
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Registered: Mar 2001 posted January 17, 2002 16:22
Thanks AngelX for stopping by and posting I really appreciate any bits on Willow and Tara you can give us. It's not fantastic that there is still tension in 14 between Willow and Tara but I'm hoping it will all at least start to become a little better after that Anyway, thanks again.
Edited to say - Tensai - don't worry, I still think you're pretty cool. Your site is a wonderful voice of reason in a world of spoiler speculation that can sometimes go insane
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posted January 17, 2002 16:22 Thanks AngelX for stopping by and posting I really appreciate any bits on Willow and Tara you can give us. It's not fantastic that there is still tension in 14 between Willow and Tara but I'm hoping it will all at least start to become a little better after that Anyway, thanks again.Edited to say - Tensai - don't worry, I still think you're pretty cool. Your site is a wonderful voice of reason in a world of spoiler speculation that can sometimes go insane
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