It's the Spoiler Thread
continued from Thread #5Ok this is very weird, the last thread went extremely WEIRD!!! It doesn't work at all! Whole pages disappeared, and posts showed up in the wrong pages.
Ok, brand new start to the spoiler thread. Let's keep it confined to spoilers this time. If you want to go off in tangets, may I suggest the daily thread
Also, this is very important for those of us in the know, there are very disturbing spoilers floating out there. However, we have all heard them and debated them to death. So I will asks posters, unless there are new, substantial, and legitimate spoilers regarding a possible big scoobie death as it relates to Willow and Tara or Willow the big bad, do not post about it. We know, we are worried, we take them seriously but we can't spend all our time talking about them. You will be promptly edited or deleted.
Esteemed established kitties, do not be tempted to reply to trolls. If there are people who insist on bringing this negativity to our spoiler thread, clearly state our policy and notify any of the mods! Do not engage in a flame war with them.
Now on to actual spoilers!!
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From AngelX when she made her gracious visit to our board:
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Alright... I've been lurking around here for far too long. I'm AnGeL X of the Buffy Cross & Stake. No one seems to be plotting my death around here, so hopefully no one will mind if I drop by now and then. *g*
Slightest bit of spoilage cause I've noticed it's become a big discussion point... Tara is *very* supportive of Buffy and her relationship with Spike. She's supportive of Buffy no matter what she decides. They bond over a mutual understanding of "keeping a secret about who they're sleeping with." Her teasing of Spike in "Older and Far Away" is entirely playful and extremely hilarious. To me, at least--Spike's adorable when he's squirming.-Michelle
The interacting is tense until the end. Tara is still very hurt by Willow's magic use and something happens in 14 that only makes matters worse--not magic use, but something related. Typical uncomfortable behavior between ex's. Saying the wrong thing, not knowing what to say, that kind of thing. They're both very nervous about being in the same house/room together, but Tara's there cause Buffy wants her there. The ending is good though. They part on good terms which holds some promise for the future.As far as the other question regarding "keeping secrets..." It's a gay/lesbian reference we hear in "Dead Things." Buffy's ashamed of her relationship with Spike and Tara's able to relate--not necessarily about being ashamed, but about keeping a secret about the people she's been involved with.
-Michelle
I've notified all of my sources and have them hunting for information. All I know right now is that none of them have heard anything about her death. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or another, but it's better than direct info that says she will die.-Michelle
They don't really label Buffy's thoughts about Tara. Buffy goes to her first for help with the resurrection spell. For many reasons, she can't go to Willow, so she has Tara research the spell and find out what exactly the spell did.
In the end, when the truth is out, Tara's just there as a really good friend for Buffy. She's supportive of Buffy regardless of why Buffy's involved with Spike. That really brings the two of them together in a friendly way. Buffy finally gets the truth out to someone and she doesn't get shot down for it. Buffy fears and as far as she's concerned, knows, that her friends will be ashamed of her and look down on her for her involvement with Spike. Tara understands Buffy's situation and doesn't do that.
-Michelle
No, there's just a line in the final scene where Tara rather bluntly explains that because she's a lesbian, she understands Buffy's feelings about keeping secrets about relationships.One more happy tidbit... There's a nice W/T moment in ep 13. Just a quick run-in, but it's sweet.
Oh and yes, Tito and Xander's love affair will be brought into the light before the wedding. But shhh...it's supposed to be a surprise for sweeps!
On that note, later folks! Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.
-Michelle
Um... not sure where this came from, but not exactly true. Tara does get upset with Willow during ep 14, but it's not until well into the episode.
As far as the deer, it doesn't come into play. Tara doesn't find anything in the spell that's really suspicious and issues with it are not raised with Willow later in 14.
-Michelle
Oh, okay...just a hint. May require thinking. Ready?
If you'll recall, Buffy and Dawn removed all of the magic supplies from the house in the last episode. Even some that weren't really magical.
Yet, in 14, with everyone locked in the house, Tara is able to do some serious magic.
(That was probably insanely vague or insanely obvious...I never know anymore.)
-Michelle
My hint was not so vague, I guess.
And by "serious magic," I didn't mean she's going to dominate the world or anything, it's just not some simple one-word spell like we've seen in the past.
-Michelle
We should see this kinda addressed in 13 (if the scene isn't cut, of course). Willow seems to be cool with Tara doing magic still. She recognizes that magic is still sometimes necessary for the Scooby Gang and when she can't do it, she knows Tara's the only other qualified one. Willow's still probably 10 times more powerful than Tara, but Tara still knows what she's doing. The cause of their disturbed relationship in 14 is Willow having magical supplies despite the events of "Gone" and her seemingly successful attempt at staying magic-free.
-Michelle
Okay... just a little bit more...
Some information happened to come my way today and while I'm not sure what of it I'm going to reveal, I'll say this little tidbit for the board here to keep the mood of the good.There is no Tara in 15. Not as good as Tara being in 15, but better than her being in 15 and something bad happening. Of course, we all knew she survived past 15, but at least nothing bad happens in the episode related to her character.
Goodness for Willow in ep 15. She's funny and her unique best friend qualities shine brightly in this episode. Good progress for her.
And that's seriously all I'm saying on that ep for now.
Also, to clarify on earlier comments regarding Willow's power compared to Tara's... that wasn't so much an opinion of mine as it was something expressed from the scripts. The "10 times" thing was more my own exaggeration, but the show seems to identify Willow as the stronger of the two, something both Wicca's and the whole gang seem to recognize.
-Michelle
Psssttt...
Since I'm still waiting on a few things before I really spoil ep 15, I figured I'd give you all a little bit more of a [harmless] tidbit to enjoy. I can't guarantee will make it to air since it's one little scene and could be cut...but I highly doubt it.Although there is no Tara in the episode, there is indication of progress for her and Willow when Willow chats with Dawn about being back on somewhat good terms with Tara. Willow's being exceptionally cautious and not rushing into anything, not even daring to call Tara. More than anything, the door is finally open on rebuilding their relationship. At the end of 14, the two are on good terms, but by having the magic supplies, Willow kinda backed herself up a few steps and really has to prove how trustworthy and strong she can be. She does mention in 15 that if she had the guts to call Tara, she would not get hung up on.
Okay...so it's itty bitty news...but it's all the W/T news I got! And Willow gets all giddy because of it. So...goodness.
-Michelle
now from gift of amber:
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TARA IS IN EPISODE 16!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tara finds herself pulled into a fight with a hairy demon.I'm going to go through and find more stuff, but I wanted to let everyone know
---Tara tells Anya that she doesn't think it's a good idea to include "sex poodle" in her vows.
I'm trying to figure out if she survives the "fight", but I'm not sure I have stuff for that far. I will let you know when I know.--Buffy, Willow, and Dawn talk about Xander walking out on the wedding.
--Xander checks into a crappy motel.
The fight is described as "fists and tentacles flying", so there is nothing to lead me to believe a death is involved, plus the talking about Xander is after the fight, and they wouldn't be talking about Xander if Tara had just been killed.
--The girl Spike was with, he can't remember her name when asked, so he asks her, and she says her name is "Tarantula".
--Anya is practising her vows, "I promise to have sex with you whenever...I want", and doesn't want to use the word cherish.I don't know about the maid of honor thing...it's possible...we don't know for sure who it is.
--Warty Demon offers to help with the coffee maker, but can't fix it, and Xander then fixes it.
--"Hymeneal Salutations"....D'Hoffryn says to Dawn.
--Uncle Rory picks up a GIRL caterer in front of Dawn.
--Dawn is talking to a demon teen about who has a worse family. The teen offers her a Shirley Temple.
--Buffy acts out charades on stage at the lodge.
From Autumn:
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A whole bunch of revisions were just released today. I'm going through them now. So far my favorite Tara line is to Anya "Uh, I'm not sure you should say 'sex poodle' in your vowsOK, there is no indication in the sides that Tara is harmed in any way. The notation of her being "pulled into the fray" means getting in the middle of a big Harris Family/Demon argument.
Also, there are two partial scenes where Tara is helping Anya with her vows.Edited to add:
Looks like Lia and I have the same info at the same time. My *impression* based on reading this is that Tara may very well be the maid of honor as she is alone with Tara in working through and going over her vows. However nothing I read states that for sure.Autumn
And Rane, the maid of honor thing was just an impression based on the fact that twice Tara and Anya were working on vows.Also, a lot of rewites from the last set that went out. For instance Xander no longer asks if the magical orb is from Willow, etc. So this one give the impression very much of a script still in progress. Just FYI. Could be more changes.
The reason for my in progress comments were because there were SO many updates today with new characters, etc as well as rewrites to a lot of the scenes that came before. That usually indicates it is undergoing a lot of massaging. The other sides I've seen this season did not have nearly the amount of revisions as these did.
Also, looks like Halfrek is also a bridesmaid.
Might be tough Bob. A lot of it is interiors. And most of it take place it what was first an Elks lodge and has now migrated into a Bison's lodge during rewrites.
From the spoilerzone
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There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
General spoilers from the cross and stake
quote:General Season 6
Crossovers with Angel are unlikely. If they are necessary, they will happen.
No new Slayer. Joss says no. When Faith dies, a new Slayer will be called, but otherwise, no.
Anthony Stewart Head is contracted as a recurring star for the 6th season.
Amy makes an appearance in "Doublemeat Palace," but Rack is not seen again up through ep. 14 and Amy's last appearance on good terms with Willow is in 12.
Older and Far Away
Ep: 14. Airdate: 2/19/02. Writer: Drew Greenberg.
Buffy's birthday ep. A party gathers at the Summers house with the usual suspects and a few old and new faces as well. Surprisingly, the party itself goes of without much complication, but the next morning is another story.
Updated Denied necessary attention from her sister and others, Dawn's wish to keep people from going away is answered by a demonic friend (*cough*Halfrek*cough*) who binds the attendees of Buffy's birthday bash to the house. Of course, with a dangerous monster also confined with them.
Dawn's stealing habits are discovered.
Jealousy runs wild as Xander and Anya set Buffy up with a guy at her party and Spike shows up unexpected by Buffy.
Anya freaks about being locked in the house, but Xander is there to calm and reassure her that everything is okay.
Tara is very much alive at the end of this ep. (She doesn't die in/before this ep and I have no confirmed info that she will at all--this is just me helping out Tara fans, it means nothing more than it says.)
As You Were
Ep: 15. Airdate: 2/26/02. Writer: Doug Petrie.
Riley returns for an episode. Not dead but of the living...and married. Buffy's own "relationship" with Spike comes into question when her ex's perfect romance shows her just what she doesn't have.
NEW! On the tail of a nasty, deadly demon that multiplies quickly, Riley shows up in Sunnydale, needing Buffy's help. But catching the demon reveals that it has already laid it's eggs somewhere.
NEW! Riley's wife, Sam, who's beautiful, successful, and able to kick demon ass with the best of them, manages to befriend all of the Scooby Gang, including Buffy.
NEW! With the wedding only a week away, Xander and Anya munch on snacks constantly as they reluctantly prepare for the arrival of "family" that will be staying with them. The newly married Riley and his wife offer the Xander and Anya some wise advice and show them how great marriage can be.
NEW! To support Buffy in the presence of Sam, Willow does what any good best friend would do: pretends to hate Riley's new wife. The girls actually bond and Sam gives Willow a little much-needed reassurance.
NEW! Despite popular belief and desire, Riley is not the bad guy of the episode. (Of course, some will still find a way to make him a villain.)Episode 16
Ep: 16. Writer: Rebecca Rand Kirshner.
Xander and Anya's wedding!
and angelx's super extra spoilery extra spoilage
From Dark Sheep Mysterioso:
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All right. I give this as a gift to those who so see it fit as one. I'm not gonna give you all of the stuff I have BUT, I will give you a very good part of it. But there is an EVEN better part/ parts of this ep. Anyway:
ACT ONE
Int. Uc Sunnydale Campus- Day
As students stream out of class, we see WILLOW, books in hand, leaning up against the wall of the building. Kinda focred casual. TARA comes out of class. Willow sees her, brightens, walks to her.
T: Hey
W: Look at you. All coming-out-of-class and everything.
T: (smiling) I do that sometimes. Usually at the end part of the class.
W: Right [ for some reason the script says Warren, I guess they need a reader. Ruth you might want to apply! But Willow does say this line]
They walk together. Slowly. Not rushing anywhere.
T: (pointing awkawardly at Willow's neck) How's your...you know, after the basement deal?
Willow swivels her head, testing her neck.
W: It's between a hitch and a kink. With a side of twinge. It's okay.
T: And Buffy's okay too? Enjoying the refreshing sanity and so forth?
W: (overdoing) Ha! Yes! Refreshing san--that's funny! (compensating soberly) She's okay. A little...freaked. I'm glad she didn't hurt you.
T: You too.
A beat of silence, then:
T (cont'd): So this is becoming kind of a regular thing. You and me after class.
W: Uh, I didn't...
T: only this time you stuck around.
W: Oh, um...various sounds of hesitation [again I believe this should have been in parentheticals]
T: She was just a friend.
Willow's caught a little off guard. But relieved.
W: Friends are nice!
T: You rushed off before I could, you know, explain.
W: Officially, of course, I have to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.
T: Unofficially?
Willow just grins a big grin. They walk in silence for a moment. Willow, still nervous, takes a deep breath, then:
W: We should get coffee some time. Maybe some day this week after class.
T: I am free tomorrow. [{I know we're all cheering right now.}]
W: You could, you could bring your friend.
Tara's actually a little thrown by this.
T: I wasn't gonna--I mean, if you have a friend-- [uh oh! But alas:]
W: No! I'm, oh, I'm friendless.
T: Yeah, yeah. No friends--I mean, I have friends...[sadly I wasn't her friend ]
W: Many dear friends, yeah, but--
T: Coffee.
W: With us. Who are...just friends.
Eventually later they go to the Expesso Pump and Anya shows up and ruins their Coffee date so to speak. I have more info, but I think this is good enough for now. I'm sure someone else will have the info that I am NOT going to post at this time. Too much of a good thing can kill you!
For I am Dark Sheep Mysterioso. May all lesser sheep bow before me. And on a personal note, you will very much like the way this episode ends
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Uhm hello? Is it safe to post here?
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Thanks for the new thread. I'll try not to break this one.
On the plus side, the four or five additional posts the software gave me bumped me to the next level! Yay buggy software!
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It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
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what in the frilly heck was that?
bizarro...if the explanation for what happened to the other spoiler thread is of general interest (i.e., one of us poor fools could set it off again by accident), please let us know so we can avoid being sucked into the vortex...thanks!
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Well, after reading the exterminator's explanation, I still think it was our doing, Garfield and I. We were vigorously deleting old threads to clean up the board. We found that after a while the board would stall. I think it was at this point that the exterminator was trying to post and made him double post so many times, and somehow this corrupted the file. Anyway, I blame G and I and we are done deleting for the night
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Should have known there would have been a garfield in there somewhere causing trouble
Literary Exterminator - thanks for checking the times for me. It WAS 8.30pm here at the time
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Originally posted by xita:
It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
Oh, xita.. thank you for putting a smile on my face this morning. wait.. but, not in that kind of a way.. or that one.. OR that one.. Dirty.
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You know what I love about that little smiley? As it's being taken up to the spaceship, it's little face is all shocked and surprised. Heh. It's lovely.
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Hmm. So Tara was in BPI-Wrecked, that's 10. She will be in Dead Things, OAFA, and Hell's Bells? Whatever the wedding eppy is called. That's 13. So we've got 3 Tara eps from 17-22, unless they give her more eps than her contract, like last year. If she does stick with the 16 than I guess it would be cool to have her in the last three eps of the season, and take part in the final arc.
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Interesting spoilers ... I wait in suspense!!!
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What kind of serious magic do you think Tara does in 14? Maybe she takes the lock off the house so people can leave. Also maybe the stolen diamond comes into play, though i'd be surprised if Willow/Buffy hadn't returned that to the museum. There'd probably be a reward.
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Someone posted this on the Cross and Stake from Wanda's chat....it seems to indicate that Tara will not be the BSD. I was confused at first but I think that is what it is saying...here's hoping that Wanda is correct.
bigpineapple asks: What are the better odds--getting struck by lightning in January or Tara not being the big scooby death?
Wanda replies: Unless you're camping out under a Redwood, I'd go for the on the latter.
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You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.
Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
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Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
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Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
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Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico
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Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.
Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
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Wendy has up-dated her spoiler zone http://www.btvs-tabularasa.net/spoilerzone/index.html with new sides for ep 16. Including these wt juicy bits
There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:
"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
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Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.
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Thanks for the new thread. I'll try not to break this one.
On the plus side, the four or five additional posts the software gave me bumped me to the next level! Yay buggy software!
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Fantastico posted January 28, 2002 03:27
It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
. The truth is out there.[This message has been edited by xita (edited January 28, 2002).]
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what in the frilly heck was that?
bizarro...if the explanation for what happened to the other spoiler thread is of general interest (i.e., one of us poor fools could set it off again by accident), please let us know so we can avoid being sucked into the vortex...thanks!
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Well, after reading the exterminator's explanation, I still think it was our doing, Garfield and I. We were vigorously deleting old threads to clean up the board. We found that after a while the board would stall. I think it was at this point that the exterminator was trying to post and made him double post so many times, and somehow this corrupted the file. Anyway, I blame G and I and we are done deleting for the night
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Should have known there would have been a garfield in there somewhere causing trouble
Literary Exterminator - thanks for checking the times for me. It WAS 8.30pm here at the time
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quote:
Originally posted by xita:
It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
Oh, xita.. thank you for putting a smile on my face this morning. wait.. but, not in that kind of a way.. or that one.. OR that one.. Dirty.
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You know what I love about that little smiley? As it's being taken up to the spaceship, it's little face is all shocked and surprised. Heh. It's lovely.
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Hmm. So Tara was in BPI-Wrecked, that's 10. She will be in Dead Things, OAFA, and Hell's Bells? Whatever the wedding eppy is called. That's 13. So we've got 3 Tara eps from 17-22, unless they give her more eps than her contract, like last year. If she does stick with the 16 than I guess it would be cool to have her in the last three eps of the season, and take part in the final arc.
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Interesting spoilers ... I wait in suspense!!!
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What kind of serious magic do you think Tara does in 14? Maybe she takes the lock off the house so people can leave. Also maybe the stolen diamond comes into play, though i'd be surprised if Willow/Buffy hadn't returned that to the museum. There'd probably be a reward.
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Someone posted this on the Cross and Stake from Wanda's chat....it seems to indicate that Tara will not be the BSD. I was confused at first but I think that is what it is saying...here's hoping that Wanda is correct.
bigpineapple asks: What are the better odds--getting struck by lightning in January or Tara not being the big scooby death?
Wanda replies: Unless you're camping out under a Redwood, I'd go for the on the latter.
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You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.
Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
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Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
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Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.
Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
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There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:
"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
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Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.
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what in the frilly heck was that?
bizarro...if the explanation for what happened to the other spoiler thread is of general interest (i.e., one of us poor fools could set it off again by accident), please let us know so we can avoid being sucked into the vortex...thanks!
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Well, after reading the exterminator's explanation, I still think it was our doing, Garfield and I. We were vigorously deleting old threads to clean up the board. We found that after a while the board would stall. I think it was at this point that the exterminator was trying to post and made him double post so many times, and somehow this corrupted the file. Anyway, I blame G and I and we are done deleting for the night
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Should have known there would have been a garfield in there somewhere causing trouble
Literary Exterminator - thanks for checking the times for me. It WAS 8.30pm here at the time
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quote:
Originally posted by xita:
It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
Oh, xita.. thank you for putting a smile on my face this morning. wait.. but, not in that kind of a way.. or that one.. OR that one.. Dirty.
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You know what I love about that little smiley? As it's being taken up to the spaceship, it's little face is all shocked and surprised. Heh. It's lovely.
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Hmm. So Tara was in BPI-Wrecked, that's 10. She will be in Dead Things, OAFA, and Hell's Bells? Whatever the wedding eppy is called. That's 13. So we've got 3 Tara eps from 17-22, unless they give her more eps than her contract, like last year. If she does stick with the 16 than I guess it would be cool to have her in the last three eps of the season, and take part in the final arc.
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Interesting spoilers ... I wait in suspense!!!
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What kind of serious magic do you think Tara does in 14? Maybe she takes the lock off the house so people can leave. Also maybe the stolen diamond comes into play, though i'd be surprised if Willow/Buffy hadn't returned that to the museum. There'd probably be a reward.
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Someone posted this on the Cross and Stake from Wanda's chat....it seems to indicate that Tara will not be the BSD. I was confused at first but I think that is what it is saying...here's hoping that Wanda is correct.
bigpineapple asks: What are the better odds--getting struck by lightning in January or Tara not being the big scooby death?
Wanda replies: Unless you're camping out under a Redwood, I'd go for the on the latter.
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You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.
Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
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Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.
Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
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Wendy has up-dated her spoiler zone http://www.btvs-tabularasa.net/spoilerzone/index.html with new sides for ep 16. Including these wt juicy bits
There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:
"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
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Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.
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what in the frilly heck was that?
bizarro...if the explanation for what happened to the other spoiler thread is of general interest (i.e., one of us poor fools could set it off again by accident), please let us know so we can avoid being sucked into the vortex...thanks!
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posted January 28, 2002 03:48 what in the frilly heck was that?bizarro...if the explanation for what happened to the other spoiler thread is of general interest (i.e., one of us poor fools could set it off again by accident), please let us know so we can avoid being sucked into the vortex...thanks!
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Fantastico posted January 28, 2002 03:54
Well, after reading the exterminator's explanation, I still think it was our doing, Garfield and I. We were vigorously deleting old threads to clean up the board. We found that after a while the board would stall. I think it was at this point that the exterminator was trying to post and made him double post so many times, and somehow this corrupted the file. Anyway, I blame G and I and we are done deleting for the night
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posted January 28, 2002 03:54 Well, after reading the exterminator's explanation, I still think it was our doing, Garfield and I. We were vigorously deleting old threads to clean up the board. We found that after a while the board would stall. I think it was at this point that the exterminator was trying to post and made him double post so many times, and somehow this corrupted the file. Anyway, I blame G and I and we are done deleting for the night IP: LoggedshazzaWillowhand Posts: 364
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Should have known there would have been a garfield in there somewhere causing trouble
Literary Exterminator - thanks for checking the times for me. It WAS 8.30pm here at the time
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Originally posted by xita:
It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
Oh, xita.. thank you for putting a smile on my face this morning. wait.. but, not in that kind of a way.. or that one.. OR that one.. Dirty.
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posted January 28, 2002 08:25quote:
Originally posted by xita:
It's like someone punched a whole in the space-time continuum right on page 13
Oh, xita.. thank you for putting a smile on my face this morning. wait.. but, not in that kind of a way.. or that one.. OR that one.. Dirty.
-S
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And it'll grieve me 'cause I love you so
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You know what I love about that little smiley? As it's being taken up to the spaceship, it's little face is all shocked and surprised. Heh. It's lovely.
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Hmm. So Tara was in BPI-Wrecked, that's 10. She will be in Dead Things, OAFA, and Hell's Bells? Whatever the wedding eppy is called. That's 13. So we've got 3 Tara eps from 17-22, unless they give her more eps than her contract, like last year. If she does stick with the 16 than I guess it would be cool to have her in the last three eps of the season, and take part in the final arc.
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posted January 28, 2002 09:42 Hmm. So Tara was in BPI-Wrecked, that's 10. She will be in Dead Things, OAFA, and Hell's Bells? Whatever the wedding eppy is called. That's 13. So we've got 3 Tara eps from 17-22, unless they give her more eps than her contract, like last year. If she does stick with the 16 than I guess it would be cool to have her in the last three eps of the season, and take part in the final arc.------------------
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Interesting spoilers ... I wait in suspense!!!
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What kind of serious magic do you think Tara does in 14? Maybe she takes the lock off the house so people can leave. Also maybe the stolen diamond comes into play, though i'd be surprised if Willow/Buffy hadn't returned that to the museum. There'd probably be a reward.
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posted January 28, 2002 14:51 What kind of serious magic do you think Tara does in 14? Maybe she takes the lock off the house so people can leave. Also maybe the stolen diamond comes into play, though i'd be surprised if Willow/Buffy hadn't returned that to the museum. There'd probably be a reward.------------------
"Is everyone here very stoned?"
"No! No, it's not a potion. You can tell by how damn SLOW it is."
Someone posted this on the Cross and Stake from Wanda's chat....it seems to indicate that Tara will not be the BSD. I was confused at first but I think that is what it is saying...here's hoping that Wanda is correct.
bigpineapple asks: What are the better odds--getting struck by lightning in January or Tara not being the big scooby death?
Wanda replies: Unless you're camping out under a Redwood, I'd go for the on the latter.
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You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.
Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
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Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
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Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
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Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.
Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
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There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:
"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
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Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.
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bigpineapple asks: What are the better odds--getting struck by lightning in January or Tara not being the big scooby death?
Wanda replies: Unless you're camping out under a Redwood, I'd go for the on the latter.
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You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.
Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
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Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.
Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
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Wendy has up-dated her spoiler zone http://www.btvs-tabularasa.net/spoilerzone/index.html with new sides for ep 16. Including these wt juicy bits
There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:
"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
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Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.
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You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.
Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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posted January 28, 2002 20:40 You do read correctly. Redwoods = very tall = susceptible to lightning. Therefore Wanda would seem to be saying that Tara is likely to survive.Ordinarily I'd scoff at anything Wanda says, but Wanda just got done interviewing Marti, and we know Buffy people have given her inside scoops before.
Awwww... and Herc just wrote such glowing praise for Wanda, too! How sad to see her disagreeing with him after all that. *sniff*
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
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posted January 28, 2002 20:44 i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?IP: LoggedScoutBig Pineapple Posts: 1039
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Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
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posted January 28, 2002 21:06 Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world. IP: LoggedSwaBlessed Wannabe Posts: 7
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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posted January 28, 2002 21:11quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
No, yaya. Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
See, just informing, not speculating...I can behave
quote:
Originally posted by Scout:
Okay, so all we need now is to get the girls back together and have Amber made a regular, then all will be right in the Kitty world.
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
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---Swa
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quote:quote:IP: LoggedScoutBig Pineapple Posts: 1039
Registered: Jun 2001 posted January 28, 2002 21:26
quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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posted January 28, 2002 21:26quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
That and the return of Miss Kitty Fantastico...and a little on screen lovin' between W/T wouldn't hurt the betterment of the world either.
Oops, you're right - I left that off the wish list. Add the kitty and, at the very least, the big onscreen kiss. We're a demanding lot, aren't we!
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Registered: Jan 2002 posted January 28, 2002 21:28
Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico
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posted January 28, 2002 21:28 Does MKF live with Willow or Tara now? I have a crazy theory about the BSD: Tara is doing a spell that involves channeling through MKF. Everyone's favorite little kitty dies as a result and Willow and Tara come together to bury her, and get back together. BUT, since MKF was killed by the spell she comes back as a zombie and teams up with Patches, the zombie cat from Dead Man's Party, and joins Warren in an attempt to take over Sunnydale, as by now Andrew and Jonothan have left the Troika cuz of how evil Warren is. The NEW Troika is the BB for the season. Oh and does anyone else wonder whether there were any conflicts between MKF and ATR? It would be funny if Amy tries to come back again and is warded off by her ex-nemesis, Miss Kitty Fantastico[This message has been edited by supermus (edited January 28, 2002).]
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quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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posted January 28, 2002 21:42quote:
Originally posted by Swa:
Herc didn't give a name to the BSD. He simply said there would be one.
Well, that's true technically - Herc has never identified his prime target for the BSD in one of his posts at AICN. In fact, at AICN Herc has done so much waffling on the question of how you define a "Scooby," he's pretty much cast his net so wide that anyone could die and he could still claim he was right. Remember? That's how the whole Xander/Tito gag started.
However, Wendy has always insisted that it's Tara, and Wendy pretty much considers herself in alignment with Herc on the matter. "Herc has never been wrong" was one of her primary arguments when she was trying to push Tara death rumors on us. Plus, we also know that Herc thinks it's Tara because it's linked to his "Willow becomes the Big Bad" theory. Willow is partially responsible for Tara's death, but she's in so much denial that she blames Buffy and Giles for it, and that's how she becomes the Big Bad. We've known for quite some time that that's his theory, and he was strongly hinting at it when he made his one appearance here.
So... no, he didn't publicly give a name to the BSD... but yes, we all know who he thinks it is.
Good thing I have rehearsal tonight...
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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Registered: Dec 2001 posted January 28, 2002 22:17
It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.
Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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posted January 28, 2002 22:17 It's good to see Willow and Buffy being supportive of one another again and behaving like best friends. I think it will help both of them become stronger.Mercury is retrograde right now, which probably accounts for the computer wackiness. Retro-Merc screws up computers and other sorts of communication devices. It doesn't go direct until February 8th, so be prepared for more weirdness until then.
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quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
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posted January 28, 2002 22:18quote:
Originally posted by yaya:
i know what mean....wanda is usually iffy but she does get it right sometimes so i will be happy for now....did herc definately say Tara would die?
he told me , fwiw..
quote:IP: Loggedlightningunregistered posted January 28, 2002 22:38
Wendy has up-dated her spoiler zone http://www.btvs-tabularasa.net/spoilerzone/index.html with new sides for ep 16. Including these wt juicy bits
There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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posted January 28, 2002 22:38 Wendy has up-dated her spoiler zone http://www.btvs-tabularasa.net/spoilerzone/index.html with new sides for ep 16. Including these wt juicy bits
There's a lull momentarily, then Mr. Harris says something insulting about the demons, and the fight starts again. Willow rescues Tara from the brawl, while Anya makes everyone sit down and be quiet. But Xander and Anya step away for a minute, and Xander tells Anya he can't get married to her. He admits he has had fears for a long time. He doesn't want to make a mistake that will last forever. She walks away from him, stunned. Then he walks in the other direction. Anya returns to the guests. She looks absolutely heartbroken. The guests start fighting again.
hurrah WILLOW saves Tara woo hoo
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Registered: Jul 2001 posted January 28, 2002 22:45
I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:
"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
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posted January 28, 2002 22:45 I was digging around and I found an interview from like eons ago with Doug Petrie. This is pre-New Moon Rising even. Given the discussions we've had here about the evil/dead lesbian cliche' I found this interesting:"Willow and Tara are going to have a good, happy, satisfying relationship," Petrie says. "That's something that we're more acutely aware of and we definitely don't want to touch on 'being a lesbian is bad.' We've all seen shows where if you have any kind of gay tendencies, you must be killed or made to suffer for no other reason other than you're gay. We're hyper aware of that, so we're more predisposed to have things work out for Willow and Tara. In fact, if Tara were a guy, I would predict a near 100 per cent chance of a breakup for Willow. The
fact that Tara is not a guy may make things work out better, because we can avoid what we feel is this old cliché."
Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.
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posted January 28, 2002 22:45 Some good news i guess. In Wanda's chat she said it was more likely Tara survives than getting struck by lightning.