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It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

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It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Mrs Vertigo » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:52 pm

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the 'ping-pong ball trick' i like to do after 7 really long island teas
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Is that a Pricilla, Queen of the Desert refrence I spot? Because if so, than I. Love. You. And will you marry me? I guarantee , eh, something similar to hot.monkey.sex, just without the, eh, monkeyness. Monkeys are just wildly overrated. Ahem.
Mrs Vertigo
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby tommo » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:55 pm

[i:0d3ee1f3b5] *stops abusing the newbies right now*[/i:0d3ee1f3b5]

But you know...so many breasts, so little time.

Sigh.
tommo
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby MadeinNZ » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:55 pm

I'm with Tulipp on this one. You can't go back. Even by admitting that you want this friend to be a lover you've changed things. That's not to say that it won't be better - just different. The worst thing would be to stay in a sort of limbo where you don't want to move forward and you can't move back.

And Ruth - please don't scare the newbies with your hot monkey sex. Speaking of which - lets be friends.
MadeinNZ
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Sweetjane » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:57 pm

yeah honey , but i don't go for the whole 'zebra coloured outfit' thang :stop , because i do have some class! ;)

.......yeah right.......:shy
Sweetjane
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Mrs Vertigo » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:58 pm

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But you know...so many breasts, so little time.
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Ah, Ruth, the pains of being a Kitten celebrity?
Mrs Vertigo
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby theatremouse » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:59 pm

um, so yeah, in response to the question o' the day, That's [i:b4d9c85696] all[/i:b4d9c85696] I do.
my best friend EVER, greatest human on the planet, only person i trust, only person i'm safe with, loves me and i actually believe her, i adore, think is a goddess, best friend, also, exgirlfriend.
i concluded i'd fallen for her, whilst in a play, playng her love interest (doncha love that? oy.) so we were flirting all the time and giving each other superinlove eyes and looks left and right and making all sorts of "we're married" jokes in all our spare time for a good three weeks, during rehearsal, and whatnot, and of course it carried over to our general everyday vernacular. it's like "ok we're tremendously flirty" that how it goes. and i loved it, and then after i a while, i couldnt stand it, cuz it was "damn, shes got a boyfriend and is straight" (at that point) so anyway, eventually she dumped the boy, i kinda, just on a whim and without thinking about it, told her how i felt just so i wouldnt do anything stupid or mellodramatic later. she was freaked, to steal a willowism and say the least. (oh, gotta go back a little, told her i was bi maybe two weeks before, and of course, she couldnt care less and wasnt particularly shocked, the being freaked was in response to the feelings for her) so then our friendship got all fizzley and uncomfy and no good for a while. and then i ended up in this huge long affair with a guy, which oddly enough, evolved out of his interest in her.... but that's another long story, and irrelevant, and she wasnt interested in him anyway so it didnt matter.
fast forward a year, a year almost exactly to the day i "came out" to her. guess who's gay now? oh yeah. guess who she turns to? moi. she's in love with some girl she met over the summer, while i was still with said dude. this was the fun part where i found out she was wicked jealous cuz of this dude. (it always strikes me as amazing that anyone could be jealous of someone else over ME. i have no self esteem like that...)
so anyway, she's pining away for said girl, who's unavailible. i'm trying to be the bestest good friend type that i usually am, and console her. and we go straight back to as great friends as we'd used to be. good times. but of course i was all "why dont you love me?" internally. i'm so not telling this well, but whatever, i'm also trying to be as brief as possible and it's tricky. anyway, so suffice it to say, couple months later, we get together, and are a verrrry cute couple for a while. then it's gets bad, for many reasons. we break up. bad bad bad emotional no goodness. very harsh. a month later, we're on good terms, but fooling around and hiding it from everyone. (everyone being all the people who'd known we were together and had broken up) we shoot a movie together and have a lovely affair. then she goes away for two months, finds the original pined for girl availible, tells everyone but me and is all ecstatic, and hides it from me remarkably well. talks to me infrequently, but still all flirty-like, and everytime i ask about other girl (who i'd become semi friendly with over the lapsed time, knowing nothing that they were together) she cuts me off and says she has to go. THAT's the trick i taught her. dont lie, just be vague and avoid saying anything untrue. so of course, she never lied to me. then i find out. then i go nuts. have some lovely little clinical depression. eventually force myself into being ok with their relationship. get ack my bestest great friend. our relationship is strong as ever, as the best friends we'd always been. i'm chummy with her new gal.
since then i had a semi relationship with a "wont admit outloud shes gay" girl who runs away anytime things seemed to real, and actually kinda gay, and one day stand, i suppose it was, with a verrrrrry straight friend, who actually has been suppressing a huge crush on the afforemention big love of life best friend girl of mine, but has religious issues and would never do anything to interfere with that, though apparently i'm sooooo seductive or something (this makes me laugh), but yeah, she was/is still one of my closest friends, and except for about two days afterward, nothing changed between the two of us, and she's still with her boyfriend, and um....i'm still superflirty with my original girl. whom i swear is just my best friend, but i've never been able to say no to. whom i watched the buffy premier with last night, and who knows what the hell'll happen next? but, the point is we've gone from friends, to more, to friends like 3 times, and we're always good. but maybe we're an exception. and my other closest friend and i suceeded in going back and forth once, so i say, totally possible. not neccessarily good idea. obviously can and does go bad, but also can and does work fine.
i'm a firm believer in, if you make it ok wholeheartedly, it'll be fine, if it feels awkward and ruined, and you let it (either of you) its gonna go that way. it's all about keeping the energy in the right flow. and being rediculously blunt and honest about all things always. entirely ignoring all human convention of dancing around issues or hiding things or keeping anything unsaid.
that's the mousetale.
peace.
theatremouse
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby VampNo12 » Wed Sep 25, 2002 1:21 pm

I find it's hard to go back to being just friends, after you cross the line into being lovers. In college I had a very good friend, we would tell each other everything, and we would flirt sometimes. However, she broke up with her girlfriend, wanted comfort, and I who loved her (but in the end knew it was loved her as a friend not in love with her) made the mistake and slept together one night. Well after that night everything became uncomfortable, we started avoiding topics to talk about, we felt like we were "walking on eggshells". She wanted more from me, and I just wanted to go back to the way it used to be. It took time, but eventually we did go back the type of friendship we had in the past, but even now sometimes I think that one "mistake" makes things "different" between us (especially when it comes to talking about our love lifes). So I guess I can be done (it's hard), but I learned from experience that I rather avoid this type of situation in the future.
VampNo12
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby relativegirl » Wed Sep 25, 2002 1:46 pm

What an eerily appropriate topic for me right now . . .
Hell if I know.

Rather than figure it out I'm going to focus on Ruth and Julia having Hot. Monkey. Sex. with a bed-full of newbies while I hose them all down with syrup and whipped cream.
relativegirl
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby maudmac » Wed Sep 25, 2002 1:54 pm

It totally depends on the people, I think. I know lots of folks want a "clean break" when they're no longer romantically involved, but I've never been like that. In fact, honestly, that doesn't make sense to me.

Everyone I've been in a romantic relationship with was previously a friend. And every single one of them is [i:111f9baad2] still[/i:111f9baad2] a friend. The first one, we've been friends over half my life (fifteen years) and are still friends about 12 years after breaking up.

Seeing my exes again (which doesn't happen often, as they are all quite far away now) is like putting on your favorite old t-shirt that you thought was lost until you found it way back in the back of the closet. Strange for about two seconds, then warm, easy, and comfortable.

I wouldn't want it any other way. I don't stop loving someone as a friend just because I'm not in love with them anymore. "I love you, but I'm not [b:111f9baad2] in[/b:111f9baad2] love with you" can be quite nice.
maudmac
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Sparky » Wed Sep 25, 2002 3:32 pm

Wow!

I come home from work to see that there's Hot Monkey Sex and that Ruth is handing it out.

I'm in! [img:2c607dfa37]http://smilies.uniquehardware.co.uk/otn/animals/jigga.gif[/img:2c607dfa37]
Sparky
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby neta » Wed Sep 25, 2002 8:44 pm

Yes, there has been a couple times that I wanted more than friendship. I think whether or not you can go back to being friends when the relationship ends depends on the persons involved and why you were breaking up. I have former lovers who I don't talk to and avoid because it ended very badly, as an example there was some abuse issues. However, I also have two former romantic relationships who are still friends, one is more close friendship than the other but I'm still friends with them. It was sometimes tough in the beginning to maintain the friendships. Their g/f's would get very jealous because I was still in my friends lives and that created some tense moments. Some of them didn't believe that it was possible to be friends after a relationship ends but it was possible and after they learned that I wasn't a threat they were Ok with me being around. So it really just depends on alot of things.
neta
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Indygo » Wed Sep 25, 2002 8:49 pm

Can't do the hot monkey sex. I'm too busy begging to be hosed down with the syrup and whipped cream! :drool

(BTW - Can we have funny shaped pancakes with that? :) )

Indygo
Indygo
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby kukalaka » Wed Sep 25, 2002 10:42 pm

The only real boyfriend I ever had is one of the best friends I have now. We'd been together for one year and a half, I wanted to split up after the first year, but then decided to try again (probably because I couldn't stand the thought of losing him as a friend). When we finally split up it actually was very painless, we both knew it was the right thing to do. That probably helps a lot with the friendship-thing. And we've not been friends before getting into the relationship. He was the first person I told "I think I'm kinda gay" and our friendship as gotten even better after that :grin

And I got involved with a very good friend of mine one evening. We didn't actually have sex, and it was just one evening, but we both thought of it as starting a relationship. He'd been wanting to do so for quite a while. And I shouldn't have because of <insert long story here>, but we're completely back to normal. Thanks to him being so forgiving. :blush

I'd say it's possible, but it's always risky.
kukalaka
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby SJ » Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:10 am

I wouldn't want to risk the friendship so I wouldn't say anything unless I was sure the other person felt the same way.
SJ
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Thespia » Thu Sep 26, 2002 10:41 am

Oneyedchicket, my long-term relationship that lasted for eleven years and made me very happy for at about nine gave me a very good friend when it ended. The problem is that this friend and I went through hard times at 'the beginning of the end' because I had fallen for someone else... To make an endless story less long, I think it's possible to be friends after being lovers; but, it will never be the same, so I don't consider it 'going back', you know? But we really do care about each other.

Good luck to you and your friend.
Thespia
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Lisa of Nine » Thu Sep 26, 2002 4:03 pm

I'm posting this in the daily thread because I have no clue where to put it. It's a very cool "Amber is a goddess post."

I helped my niece send Amber Benson a letter last year. With the season ending the way it did, well, we gave up on any reply.

She got the most fabulous reply to today. Amber is the best.

My 5-year-old niece was SO excited. She got a postcard- with the sideways Tara pose, and on back... HAND WRITTEN BY AMBER (I recognize her handwriting) it said, "Jenna- thank you for the lovely letter! You are super- duper sweet & precious! (heart) Amber Benson"

I am so impressed that this busy actress takes time to send a personal response, in her own handwriting.

My niece had this to say," Oh my josh! Is that for me!" She carried it around all night!

Amber, if you lurk here, you are THE best.

Just wanted to share,
Lisa
Lisa of Nine
 


It's Is It Friends or Lover's Wednesday MKF? 9/25/02

Postby Ressick » Thu Sep 26, 2002 5:50 pm

Ha. The Kitten grows as I grow... scary...

Confronting a psuedo-similiar issue myself, actually. Been in love with a friend off and on for about seven years, finally told her this two years ago, she freaked, stopped talking to me for nine months. We rebuilt the friendship (I'm very persistent). Finally this summer start talking about things, and discover our mutual attraction still exists. Acted on it a little (first kiss with a girl at age 20, good boy I am). Still not sure where we stand. Just that we're important to each other.

I am usually a very patient person, but damn it!

Good luck to all in similiar situations.

Res

PS Congrats to Lisa and your niece!!! That's soooo cool!
Ressick
 

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