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Postby WilTaraFan » Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:35 am

I have a question to the mods. Well, it's to anyone, but I think the mods will be more inclined to know the answer. Here's the question:

How many views or hits does a topic have to have in order to be called a hot topic and have that little blue icon next to it. Is it 4000, 3000?

That's my question. Thanks a bunch.k

Kudos!!!
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Postby BytrSuite » Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:45 am

The views or hits don't matter. It's how many posts in the topic there are. In this case it's 100 posts and it gets one of those hot topic graphics.
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Postby pengwnlvr11 » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:12 pm

Has anyone interviewed Aly Hannigan and asked her how she felt about playing the role of a lesbian? I don't mean to stir up the topic of the gay or not gay question...cause I realize she is an actress....but you would have to be somewhat open minded to be able to play a gay role.
I've always wondered if it gives her the willys to play that role...or is she is comfortable with it. I know that she is not gay or even bi in real life...so is it really so easy for her to play a lesbian or does she struggle with the emotions of it?
Please don't bash this question, I'm just curious for the fact that I wonder if her future in the show will continue to be a lesbian character or if she is done playing that role...and ready for going back to guys. I know they have said her character is "gay", but I would think Joss might ask her how she feels about it, and maybe change a few things.

Just curious
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Postby xita » Fri Nov 01, 2002 8:16 pm

She has stated many times publically that she's just fine with playing a lesbian and that it gives her great pleasure to be a role model to young lesbians, you might want to look for Aly interview threads, like recent one. Aly's pretty consistant in that message. Can I ask what would give you that impression about Aly?

As for the Buffy question, buffy is off topic in this forum, check thread for info on our season 7 board.
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Postby urnofosiris » Sat Nov 02, 2002 12:10 am

Just adding to Xita's post. Both Aly and Amber have always been supportive of Willow and Tara and are aware of the importance of their roles. Hardly an interview goes by when there is not a question about what it is like to play a lesbian, funny considering ME is adamant they are just individuals.:sigh
Here are 2 quotes that illustrate Aly is fully aware of the importance of the part she has played and that is she is very comfortable with and proud of it. There are plenty of other quotes to be found. WT are unique and we have Amber and Aly to thank for the biggest part, they have made them and their love come to life with a simple look and a touch and off screen they have been very supportive and understanding. I could not have enjoyed WT the way I do if I had known they were unhappy about playing the part.

Aly in Starlog
What was the audience reaction to Willow's 'coming out' in the show?
It's very supportive. People have been so sweet about it. It's really affected people in a positive way. People that were in the same sort of situation, it showed them that they weren't alone. Kids especially that were fighting with whether or not they could come out, they of felt like they aren't the only people in the world going through this, which is great.



Aly in SFX
Have you heard from the gay community about what kind of role model Willow is to them?
Ive had a really positive response from the people that Ive spoken with, and its just so rewarding. And mainly, like, the people that I just run into on the street and stuff. It really makes a difference in their lives. I mean, who can ask for anything more than that? And the show takes the relationship and really just makes it about two people in love and not Oh, look, were doing something different. And its just so nice, and its so wonderful to meet people that actually have been affected by it personally.
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Postby pengwnlvr11 » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:49 am

I have read those interviews....and they both talk about how good it is for other people....how they affect other people...but never how they feel about the roles...personally. I'm not saying that i'm ungreatful for the responces, but it really doesn't answer my questions. Those interview questions ask they how the feel about the relationship...and the only responce that I interpert is how greatful they are on the impact of their fans and other young teens, lesbians, so forth. If I were an actress I would be proud that my role affected others...but that doesn't explain how I feel about the role. Make sense?
But then again...if I was uncomfortable playing a lesbian I don't think I would admit that in an interview...cause it would crush those that are moved by it.
I do see the positive emotion they put forth with their answers...but It really doesn't explain how "they" feel.
OK...I'm sounding rude..and that was not my intention. I do appreciate your answers...and i'm thankful for your time.

Peng

Xita,
I questioned their motives because in some scenes...and by far not all....Willow seemed squimish in the physical parts. Keep in mind..I'm not expert...I'm a lesbian..and very out and comfortable....but I have some friends, women, who can't even fathom the idea of "being" with another woman. They love me...except me...but it gives them the willys when they think of being intiment with another woman. So I just wondered if they had no probs playing the role...or if they have to put themselves in a very strong mental place to proceed with some of the scenes they did.
I'm all for willow and Tara...I love them..and so obessed with them it is silly, and the reason I continue to watch the show is due to Willow...so please don't think i'm bashing or disagreeing or anything to that matter. I guess I fear Willows role might change..and that would upset me.
Does that explain my curiosity to the subject?

Peng
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Postby kbk3022 » Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:56 am

Here is a quote from a Teen People interview:[quote:aeeb7a5b90]Quote:
TP: Is it difficult playing a lesbian?
AH: I don't really treat Tara any differently than I treated Oz [her werewolf boyfriend played by Seth Green]. OK, she has bumbs on top and she's softer to kiss, but it's not like 'Ooh, ah, same sex, oh dear, I've got to really work into this!' It's not something I ever experienced, but then I've never had to experience bringing back my friends from the dead either.
[/quote:aeeb7a5b90]That should help with your question.

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Postby pengwnlvr11 » Sat Nov 02, 2002 10:02 am

KBK...that is what I was looking for. Yes...now I feel sheepish...cause I remember reading that and I had forgotten. Boy I need to knock my soapbox down alittle ya think?

Thanks. That makes me feel more secure.

Peng
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Postby urnofosiris » Sat Nov 02, 2002 3:33 pm

There are plenty of more quotes like that around, I don't have the time to find more right now, just believe us when we say they are there, after two and a half years and having read just about every Amber and Aly interview out there we can answer that question without a doubt. Both Amber and Alyson have never expressed any discomfort about playing a lesbian, in fact they have stated the exact opposite. Despite the censorship they managed to convey the love between WT with many a stolen look and little touches. I have not seen what you are referring to, but even if it were so it is not because Alyson was uncomfortable playing a lesbian.
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Postby Dumbsaint » Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:31 am

Yanno, Garfield, I'm still waiting for you to come here so I can abuse you. Or should I just go back to abusing the big red fonts?
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Postby urnofosiris » Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:41 am

Julia, there are still tickets available for the MR convention. You are very welcome to come along and abuse me or take advantage of me. Whichever you prefer. If you are not going, I am still looking into any last minute trips to LA, but I gotta wait till I know whether I get hired by our royal airline service. That way I can get a discount. :grin
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Postby urnofosiris » Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:33 am

Double posting because I am such a bad boy and because I have an announcement to make. :grin

We have edited the first post of this thread to include a list of subjects that get discussed often. Especially people who are new to the board can use it to see what has been discussed already. If anyone wishes to post in any of these threads go ahead, there are many new people now and probably many new opinions to be added. :)
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Postby jraff » Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:52 pm

Hum, I just noticed something, and I thought you Mods might want to know about it. There's a semi-mistake in the first post of this thread, as in...[quote:575ccc73a2]Quote:
The question can be on anything "On-Topic" for this board, as specified in the FAQ - BTVS, Willow/Tara, Alyson, Amber, (...).
[/quote:575ccc73a2]
But, then again, the FAQ itself says that BTVS is off-topic. So I thought it might get confusing for a newbie/lurker, reading everything at once, seeing that btvs is both on- and off-topic :)

Voil!

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Postby xita » Mon Nov 04, 2002 9:00 pm

Thank you!! BIG mistake!
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Postby jraff » Mon Nov 04, 2002 9:03 pm

My pleasure!

*politely bows*

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Postby feena191 » Wed Nov 06, 2002 12:04 pm

After a brief mention on S7 Board, I just wondered what age people have to be to do various things in other countries. Obviously the question isnt relevant on the other Board :)

In the UK :

Heterosexual sex 16
Male gay sex 16
Lesbian sex apparently no statutory age of consent
Alcohol - 18
Smoking - 16
Drive 17
Vote - 18


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Postby La » Wed Nov 06, 2002 3:19 pm

In the US, many of those ages are different in each state. The universal ones are:

Alcohol - 21 (actually a state-by-state decision, but all states are 21 now)
Smoking - 18
Vote - 18

Drive in some states it can be as low as 14 or 15 (I think it's 15 in Alaska), most are 16, though some are also 17 or 18.
Heterosexual sex it is 17 in Illinois
Male gay sex ? but a lot of states still have laws against sodomy.
Lesbian sex ?
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Postby KISMIC » Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:24 pm

Australia:

Vote: 18
Driving: 16 for 'L's, P's after 16 and a half. However it's being changed to 20 for the full licence.
Smoking: 18
Alcohol: 18
Heterosexual sex: 16
Homosexual Male sex: 16 or 18...Pretty sure they're all 16 though.
Homosexual Female Sex: No age set..I think.
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Postby xita » Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:33 pm

I don't think there is a legal age for sex, just that you can't as an adult have sex with a minor, at least in California.
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Postby Diebrock » Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:49 am

Hey, you guys make me learn something new every day. Even if it is just because I have to check my facts. :)

In Germany:

Sex - 14 (no distinction since they abolished the notorious 175 )
Smoking - 16
Alcohol - 16 (Hard Liquor - 18)
Driving - 18
Voting - 18
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Postby Katharyn » Thu Nov 07, 2002 8:05 am

Lesbian sex in the UK... there is no stat age of consent - or actually any statutes at all - because (I believe) Queen Victoria refused to believe that there was any such thing as lesbianism.

As such she refused to give Royal Assent (which is today a formality granted to all laws by the queen) to the section of the law which had been propsed. I am not sure which law that was linked to, but because one queen didn't believe in it there has never been a law in the UK to prohibit it. Unlike gay sex which was illegal for a LONG time and has only recently started to get to a equal footing.

I guess she wouldn't have been watching Tipping the Velvet then... if she could have seen it*S*

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Postby Diebrock » Thu Nov 07, 2002 3:36 pm

It seemed to be rather common, that although gay sex was illegal, lesbian sex more or less went unnoticed by the law.
One reason was surely that men (who made the laws) saw women not really as sexual beings who were capable of passion, desire and so on.
In Germany, 175 (since the 19th century) said that gay sex was illegal while sex between women wasn't mentioned. In the 1920s the punishment got lighter and I think I have read somewhere that it stood a good chance to be taken out of the lawbooks.
Then the Nazis came and increased the punishment again and after the war the Nazi version of 175 was left in the Criminal Code. Because even though the increase in punishment took place under Nazi rule, there really wasn't anything wrong or questionable about it. :rolleyes
(which had the consequences that a lot of gay men that had spend years in concentration camps, were freed and then promptly sent to prison for a few years)

Anyway, in the 50s or 60s (not sure) two men who had been convicted because of 175, tried to get it deleted in constitutional court by saying that it conflicted with the constitutional right of equality of men and women. They failed, and the grounds for the dismissal was the difference between the male and the female sex drive.
I'm not sure (it's been a while since I've read the verdict), but female sexuality was described as nurturing (the mother role), passively recieving, without sexual passion; in contrast to the male aggression and conquering, blah, blah, blah.
So if you take that view, it's clear that if you have two women, they'll have no real sex drive between them. They'll maybe care for and shelter each other (because of their maternal instincts) but they wouldn't really have the urge to become sexual.
Ergo, there is no lesbian sex. And if there is no lesbian sex, you don't need laws that deal with it. :\
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Postby daddykat » Sun Nov 10, 2002 1:40 pm

US age of consent laws for sex do vary. I n California, a legal adult cannot have sex w anyone under 18; here in Pennsylvania I believe the age of consent is 16. Soem states till ahve laws on the books which restrict gay sexual activity but ages of consent are basically the same for gay or het sex. One place where American sexual laws are VERY varied is when BOTH parties are legally minors. Whether criminal charges can be filed or not is very tricky.
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Postby famer » Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:55 am

I've been looking around the net but can't seem to find Amber's Contact Address post-BTVS. All I seem to find is the UPN/BTVS address.

Anyone know the address I can drop a postcard at?

In Canada :

(1) Homosexual activity [buggery/gross indecency] between consenting adults was decriminalized in 1967. Hence Pierre Trudeau's (Cdn Prime Minister) famous quote "there is no place for the State the bedrooms of the nation.

(2) Over 18, all consensual sexual activity is fine.

(3) 14 - 17 year olds can consent to sex as long as

(a) there is no relationship of trust, authority, or dependency exists;
(b) there is no payment or offer of payment for sex;
(c) anal sex (unless legally married)

(4) Sex is expressly disallowed for those under 14. In addition, the law prohibits touching or inviting, counselling or inciting a person under 14 to touch, directly or indirectly, with a part of the body or with an object, any part of the body for a sexual purpose. As well, someone can be convicted of sexual assault of a person between 14 and under 18 if they are in a position of trust or authority or dependency toward the person between 14 and 18 (even if the accused is also under 18). Buffy, take note : the law presumes there is exploitation of a young person if an accused is in a position of trust or authority, even if the sexual activity is truly consensual.
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Postby ruby » Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:23 am

Hey, is anyone a member of Salon.com? Stephanie Zacharek just published an article on the recent UK academic conference on Buffy, but it's only available to premium subscribers. If you've seen it, can you let me know? Thanks.

Also, is anyone familiar with the program of the conference? Were there any papers presented on W/T?

Thanks if you have any info.
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Postby BoredNow99 » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:31 am

Ruby, this is the link for UEA's information on the conference. I don't think it's been updated since it actually took place, though, but there is a rundown of what each person was talking about.

Hope that helps :)

Buffy conference at UEA
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Postby ruby » Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:04 pm

Thanks for the program. It looks like there werea couple papers on slashfic, but nothing specifically on W/T. Seems like a big omission to me. Anyway, all the usual suspects were there, topic-wise, esp. papers on horror/comedy and the Gothic. A disproportionate number of linguistic analyses, perhaps.

Did anybody go? How was it?

Still looking for the text of the Salon article if anyone has it. Thanks.
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Postby Repost Moderator » Wed Nov 13, 2002 10:55 am

Originally posted by caged heart

Hi everyone,

Sorry to start a new thread, but I did a board search and came up with nothing. I'm looking for a quote, either online or in a magazine, in which Amber says she doesn't want to do a role that will further hurt the fans. I know I've seen something like this posted/discussed here, but I need to find the quote from Amber. If anyone knows what I'm looking for, feel free to e-mail me at vivaladiva@mindspring.com

Mods, feel free to point me to another thread and delete this one if its redundant.

Thanks,
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Postby kbk3022 » Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:29 pm

The interview with the quote you're looking for was one with Wanda. You can find it here.

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Postby astheywere » Fri Nov 15, 2002 10:54 pm

uh hi I am kinda new and was wondering what happened to the new, semi private season 7 "spoiler" discussion thread? It seems to have disappeared from the main board..? or am I nuts?
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