This is replies for feedback left on chapter six. Much love to all the kittens who took time to leave a reply. Thank you all so much.
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Jeanne!
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Emms, you've made me not like Logan again, right when I was starting to think that she wasn't so bad after all.
I guess she has had a tough time - her family don't exactly sound like the nicest people in the world - but, that's no excuse for the way she treated Tara. & there are no words to describe how pissed off I am that Logan only wanted a child so that Tara would stay with her - how pathetic & selfish can you get? I do hope that Spencer never finds out that particular piece of information.
Aww I’m sorry Jea, it seems I am making a lot of people flip back and forth between seething hatred for Logan and thinking she might not be that bad. I think you’re right though, whatever her background is it all boils down to Logan making excuses for herself instead of taking responsibility for her action.
Sweetie, as usual your feedback is so sweet and fun to read. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into your replies; it really shows you care. Thank you so much.
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CrazyTaraWitchThank you, sweetie.
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WillowRulez
I’ll just combine your two posts, if that’s okay with you.
Thank you for your thoughts about Logan. I think she does need a certain amount of therapy.
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ETA: Just out of curiousity...what kind of car was Logan driving? Cuz, you know, 5y olds have to sit in back
You’re absolutely right, Spencer should be in the back seat (it‘s the law), but something tells me Logan isn’t too worried about where Spencer sits. She’s that type of irresponsible parent.
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Incredible! I really like how you didn't focus on the romance side of it for most of the dinner, instead concentrating on how comfortable they felt around each other and the conversation.
Thank you. There’s still plenty of time for romance.
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I'll admit, I'm worried about Logan, like she's going to do something stupid to split up Willow and Tara or maybe get Tara back. Hmm...
I think it’s possible that she could try and split them up…but judging by how Tara had been toward her this whole time I really doubt that that is possible. It could be a good angst point though, If willow becomes insecure about that and worries that Logan and Tara will get back together for the sake of Spencer.
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Carleen! Woo! Feedback from Carleen!

And you like it! You really like it! {/swoon]
Okay…I’m better now.

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Erin,Thank you for reading. And I promise kisses are not far away.
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I was so glad to see an update! And what a wonderful and long update it was too. So, Logan, dropping even farther in my list. Using Spencer to try to control Tara is absolutely terrible. She has to grow up and take responsibility.
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Enough about her though. The whole evening with W&T was wonderfully written and so cute! It felt completely natural and not rushed. And Willow wanting to save the world by making blankets, definately cute.
Thank you.
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That is excellent writing! You paint awesome stories with your words!
I can't wait to see how this job and Friday go! Thanks for the update.
You are such a sweetie!
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Hi there
gabbyx19,Thank you for the lovely feedback, I’m glad you’re enjoying the story.
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Writerfreak,Quote:
i must say that your update is definitely one of the sweetest things i have ever read. its how falling in love should be. spencer is the sweetest boy. and im already in the disliking logan club. can we say issues.... another fabulous update Emms.
Aww thank you, dear.
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Watson,Quote:
Logan is self-absorbed and misguided. There is a lot of potential for angst, because we're not sure how she could react to the introduction of Willow into Tara's and Spencer's life. On the other hand, she is thinking ... or trying to think through her own issues and perhaps she could acknowledge her assholeness and focus on Spencer, who adores her, rather than the inevitable jealousy about the W/T relationship
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I’m thinking you’re right. The potential for Angst is very high. We have Logan, who’s kinda like this ticking time bomb of random angst that can go off at any time and then we have Willow, who has had a lot of lovers and has never experienced commitment paired with Tara who is for all intents and purposes is a single parent who has just ended a relationship with someone who was always cheating on her…this is a highly volatile situation.
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Spencer continues to charm, you have such a great grasp of what makes a child tick.
Thank you. That just comes with the territory. I have been a nanny for many years.

The older kids that I take care of joke with me that I always know what they are going to do before they do it and that they can’t get away with anything. It’s true.
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This was fantastique, Emmy! I like how you gave us some more insight into Logan's character, and her growing self-awareness is certainly making her uncomfortable. In my experience people don't really get that kind of self-awareness until they're on the verge of making a big change in their selfish behavior, so I wonder if Logan is going to change or what. It was also good to get that view since many of us were concerned that she was going to try to snatch the kid.
Thank you, Sally!
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Very sweet interactions with Willow and Tara. I guess Willow didn't come out to Tara as in "I'm GAY AND I WANT YOUR BOD!" but Tara knows, eh? Flowers, flirting, dancing, and all. Plus tasting the sauce, very simultaneously homey and erotic. I can't wait till they interact again. I guess if Tara takes a job with Willow that will be a blessing and a curse - she'll be around Willow a lot but on the other hand, they'll have a new, cursedly professional dynamic to deal with.
Hahaha! I’m sure you’re right. I can’t picture “I’m GAY AND I WSNT YOUR BOD!” would go over too well…not on a first “sorta-date” I think that would have frightened Tara away.
And…I don’t think we’ll have to worry about Tara taking a job with Willow…but who knows…she might. I basically wanted to give Willow something she would have to “give up” in order to prove to herself how much she feels for Tara…because right now, the money she is making and her career is all that she really knows how to live for. (not that any of that is going to happen…er…I was just sayin’)
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I can relate to Willow's thoughts about how she somehow got off track for what she thought her life's plan would be, career-wise, and how she thought she would change the world, and then the brick wall of reality. Yep. Yep.
I can relate to that too…I think we all can to some extent.
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Thanks for the update. Tara and Willow are really cute together and this getting to know each other is very special and sort of different than a lot of other stories. Like it very much. And nice that in the end Willow was content enough to admit the flowers to be Tara's. We know that she had a hot date by than. But ok they are taking it slow.
Thank you. I’m glad you think so.
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Wonder what the brat Logan will be up to. Guessing she will cause a lot more trouble for our two favorite girls. And working together like Sally said could be hell and heaven at the same time. Looking forward to the next update.
Oh I don’t know…Logan could surprise you and be a complete angel for the rest of the fic…
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Having a child to keep your mate? Tsk tsk Logan. If it's meant to be, it is...if not, let it go. Control over another human being is not a healthy way to keep a relationship going. Her motives were completely wrong but I can see that Logan has warmed up to having a child and loves him dearly. What worries me though is how she blames the entire universe for the angst in her life and doesn't acknowledge that 'perhaps' she might have something to do with it. Hey Tara didn't force her not to attend university, ultimately it was her choice...right?
I agree with you…but I was actually trying to say that Logan blamed her mother for the fact that she didn’t attend college…not that she blamed Tara. She might as well have been saying though, because she blames Tara for everything else right?
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I wonder how Logan will react to Willow and Tara's developing relationship. I know she might feel threatend by Willow's success and jealousy over the fact that Spencer adores Willow. Is Logan still in love with Tara or is it a simple case of mine, mine, mine...I had her first?
At this point…I think anything is possible.
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Yep, I'm joining everybody else in saying that this bit was hilariously funny. I too can make Texas Chili, not like the back of my hand mind you. I simply grab my can opener, crank open a can of Stagg chili and boisterously utter the words, I've got spurs that jingle jangle jingle... Hee Haww!!

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The dinner was simple and pleasent. Just the way a first date should be. I'll go along with what Watson said, the little snippets were perfect in their simplicity and weaved the evenings activities very nicely. No mucho, ni muy poquito...perfecto!
I’m glad you enjoyed that. Writing it in “snippets”

just came naturally as the scenes progressed…which is unusual for me, cause I hardly ever piece things together like that.
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Spencer...gosh he reminds me of a certain little Papito I have to contend with. Let me just crank up my mariachi and cumbia music and he's on me like bees on honey. He says, "Mom if you dance mexican I have to dance mexican." I love him. My daughter just looks at me and says, "I learn through osmosis." She's not the dancing type.
Hehehe…that makes a cute visulal, Irene. Your son sounds like my niece. Whenever there’s music she is ready to dance! Ever since she was first walking and talking she would come up to me and say “Me! Me! Me dance Nauny!(she calls me Nauny) and I would have to pick her up and dance around with her.
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AmyQuote:
Wow! This was such an excellent update to one of my favorite stories in Pens. Your writing is flawless and as usual I get sucked in. I really enjoyed the flirty W/T interactions. It was really sweet and sexy. I'm glad Willow gave her the flowers at the end
Aww, thank you so much! I couldn’t hope for any more than that. And yep Tara got her flowers..
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TheRose24I’m happy you like the story.
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Debra,
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Willow and Tara's connection was adorable but I have one thing to say: KISS! I almost think that these people don't deserve to be together if neither of them can muster up enough initiative to kiss each other given all the clear signals. I know it makes it all go on longer but come on...
I know I’ve already left you individual reply to this feedback…but over the weeks I’ve had other thoughts on it.
Yes, but you have to understand where they are coming from… it’s not just two single women with no attachments or responsibilities here…if that were the case, I’d say: “heck, why don’t they just make out then?” but it’s not that simple. Tara has Spencer and an unpleasant past with Logan to get around and Willow has her commitment to work and her mixed emotions about Spencer.
and again....'cause I have something romantic planned.
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Debra, (again)
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Lol. But in School Days there was a good excuse: student/teacher (or so they thought). Here, no such excuse exists. They just both lacked initiative. On the other hand, if you have it all planned out, I'm sure it's bubbling over with romance and will be lovely!
Touché…

and thank you at the same time.
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I have only just found this - and I am so glad I did! I really like the idea of Tara as a mom. I always thought she would make a great mother, and you have proved me right. I do so like it when I am right.....
Thank you.
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Kaia,Quote:
First of all, I must apologize for not leaving feedback for this story till now, but I want you to know that I have read all your stories (yup, all of them) and like most of us in this board wait patiently for your updates.
No Apologies necessary. It’s always been my opinion that feedback is elective, not mandatory…though it is highly regarded as precious…and more of it does lead to faster updates.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the story, so far. And I hope you continue to read and post.
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FleissI’m so glad you’re still enjoying the story!
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BoschiAwww I’m sorry to have ruined your grumpy day…

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Henny, Your take on Logan is well thought out. And I can’t say that I disagree. Everyone is capable of doing some incredibly jacked-up things…but at the same time everyone is capable of change. I’m really enjoying all the sympathy you have for Logan…she’s gonna need it. Hehe
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So Willow has never been in love? Or has she never been with some one in the way of physical relationship? Is that why she didn't move in for a kiss... she was so close?
Nope…they didn’t kiss. Mostly because I have their first kiss already planned out and that wasn’t it. And partly because they both have their reasons for waiting. Tara has Spencer to think about and can’t just rush into something without looking at all the aspects first, and Willow doesn’t know how to be in a relationship…not to mention the fact that Tara has a kid and Willow’s not completely comfortable around spencer. Not to say that she won’t become comfortable…it’s just…these things take time.
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*Waiting for an update*
I just reread the fic and I really tried to like Logan at least a tiny bit... didnt work!
Aww…I’m sorry…at least you gave it a valiant effort. I hope you enjoy the next update.
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Hmm... Logan is interesting. Because on the one hand, ick - agreeing to have a child just to keep Tara tied down (There's only one way Tara should be tied down, and it involved Willow and a cute little riding crop with a red tassel on the end...) On the other hand, though her thought to herself that she really did love Spencer could have been just her justifying herself to herself - "I'm not a complete jerk, I do love the kid!" - I'm actually inclined to believe it's true. This is Spencer, after all, he's pretty adorable. And shy and insecure as Tara evidently was when she got together with Logan, I really can't imagine her staying with her to the point of having a child if Logan wasn't at least capable - if not willing - of being a better person than her history suggests. She's still afraid of the guilt (and no surprise, she's got a lot to feel guilty about), but the fact that she's feeling guilt at all is a sign that perhaps she can turn herself around. She's not doing it yet, but I don't think it's impossible that she could.
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On to Willow and Tara, and how cute was that dancing? Very cute, that's how. And the three-way dance with Spencer was also very much of the cuteness. I adored Willow's 'recipe on the back of her hand' joke, that was really sweet and funny.
I’m glad you liked the dancing and dinner parts.
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And re: the whole kissing thing, I find it kind of sweet that they haven't kissed yet - with the understanding, of course, that they will,
Oh of course…it’s a must, in fact.
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I like that they're enjoying each other's company as company, at the moment. It's something they've both lacked up until now. And I think it may be a good decision at this stage - they're both nervous, Tara because it's not just herself but Spencer as well, should she and Willow progress past dating to relationship, and Willow for the same reason - whether or not they're consciously aware of that, I think maybe it's good that they're getting time to get over the nervousness of being with each other, before they get to the serious business of being with each other
I couldn’t have said it better myself (and believe me, I’ve tried)
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Tara got her flowers
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Anna,Quote:
Wonderful update... I loved the comment Tara made about the "other date" in reference to the flowers Willow left in the car. It struck me as so very funny! What a perfect first date! They were so cute together with the talking and small flirting. I hope Tara takes Willow up on the "Texas Chili" at Willow's apartment. And thanks for the idea for dinner tonight.
Looking forward to whats next!
hehe. I'm glad I could help out with dinner.

And thank you for leaving feedback, sweetie. I hope you know how much I value your thoughts.
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P,S, Yeah, what's up with the weather out there... I saw pictures on the Weather Channel of first the flooding and then the terrible wind damage. Actually it's misting rain here today where as it usually pours in this part of the country. Kind of makes me homesick
Yeah, at the time of your post we were having a lot of flooding where I'm at (Eugene) In fact, three times that week, I had almost gotten stranded at work, due to the rising water. It sucked.
right now the weather is a little different. We're having what this part of the state calls a "winter storm" wich basically means that we've gotten a little snow and everyone is freaking out. (by a little snow I mean A LITTLE snow..one inch or less.

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This is a romantic, but complicated little tale you're spinning. And, one that I am thoroughly enjoying. The chemistry between Willow and Tara is lovely. The natural seamless inclusion of Spencer into the dance was very sweet, and telling.
thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the dancing bit. Personally I thought it was soooo sweet...but I'm bias, I suppose.
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Well, then there's Logan. Guilt aside, despite all her supposed caring for Spencer, she doesn't seem to realize she's hurting him. Whether that's directly, by standing him up, or through her manipulations of both him and Tara. I guess, I'm waiting for the Logan shoe to drop....
Amen, sista'
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i absolutely loved this chapter... well, logan aside... i think i understand now a little about logan, but that doesn't mean i like her any better... no matter how she justifies everything that's happened to her by blaming it elsewhere, nobody else is at fault but herself... logan might remember that saying about while you're pointing your finger at someone else, the other three fingers are pointing to you as well... well something to that effect at least... i hope spencer... and tara for that matter... never find out her reason for wanting spencer in their lives... i hope she is finally turning a new leaf and decided to be a more responsible adult about things... starting with patching her relationship with spencer and a platonic one with tara as well... i read henny's post on her thoughts about logan... i too in real life am not really judgmental or anything... but in your fic, it is just so easy to be suspicious of her motives i guess...
I totally don't think you're being judgmental, sweetie. I have given you good reason to suspect Logan's motives...She's the antaganist in this fic...so please feel free to suspect her.
I don't know about Spencer, but I suspect Tara already has a clue about Logan's past motives. How could she not? Logan is a totally obvious person...and selfish people are always the easiest to see through.
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on to the "date," willow and tara are really making headway in their budding relationship... no kiss yet but i can see it in the near future.... they're getting more open with each other about their lives... willow is still somewhat hesitant talking about inner-willow stuff but i'm sure with tara will make her open up one way or another... with tonight's date though... with the talking, the dancing, the easy comfort, the flowers... they're going the right course to loveville (loveville? geez ces! cheesy much?!)...
Nope. No kiss yet...but I can definitly gaurentee one in chapter eight. I have no intentions of dragging this out past the breaking point. My aim is to make thier relationship as real as possible...and what two people could resist a kiss on thier first "date" especially if they are totally digging eachother as much as W?T?

Thanks Ces, and I hope I didn't give to much of chapter 8 away.
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Well, that was an interesting glimpse into Logan's mind, and what motivates her to act as she does so. That being said, I can't muster a whole lot of sympathy for her. Constantly refusing to accept any of the blame for your own actions isn't going to earn you any brownie points with me. And the idea of having a kid simply to tie someone down is utterly repellent. Not that Logan is utterly without redeeming features, oh no. That would be too easy, wouldn't it?
I can't say I blame you on the sympathy front...I haven't written her with a lot sympathy-causing qualities. One thing I could say in her defense though (as if she was a real person

) she's not really causing as much trouble as concievally she could be...so perhaps that means something.
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Now, it's already been said to the nth degree, but I don't quite think it's reached the 'done to death' level yet, so I'm gonna say it anyway. That whole date between Willow and Tara was so damn cute I think my teeth are actually rotting as I type
oh...please believe me when I say: that could never be "done to death"
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I do have one question though. Was this an actual date date? I didn't get that impression when they arranged it, but it definitely felt like it. Are they actually dating now, or stuck in some kind of dreaded limbo?
Well...from our veiwpoint (as the reader) it totally looks like a date...but from their pov It wouldn't look that way at all. So I guess that means that no...they are not dating. YET!
Thank you so much for the feedback, paul. I always love reading your thoughts on any given update.
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Firstly I just want to mention again how much I love your writing. You never fail to captivate me and completely engross me in your writing!
That's all I could ever hope for.
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...so I just gave up and headed over here to where I know I will never be disappointed. I am just so blown away with how much detail you put into each of your fics, right down to the change in colour and contrast of carpet after it has had a finger run through it.
You have no Idea how warm that makes the cockles of my heart.
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On a different note, is it wrong for me to be feeling sympathetic towards Logan, or at least disliking her less? I mean, I know that her blaming everyone else, including Tara, for her "troubles" is wrong, stupid and cowardly but it also shows that deeper down she is weak, lost and scared... Her excessive drinking earlier also adds to my thoughts here. Emms, if this isn't how you wanted Logan to be portrayed, just say the word & I'll return to giving my computer evil glances whenever I see the name Logan!

nothing wrong with it at all.

there is no need to give your computer evil glances on my account.

I think everyone is entitled to thier own oppinion about Logan. She's still pretty much a two demensional charactor right now, so there's plenty of room for making up your own mind about her. Everyone has reasons behind the things they do, selfish or not...I suspect Logan is no different.
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Finally Willow and Tara, awwwwwww... My god this fic is cute and I love the pace they are travelling at! Oh and the oven mit part, just genius & the flowers, adorable! Anyway Emms, I'm just in awe of your writing & I feel privileged to be able to read it so thank you! Again
awww...thank you so much.
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DianneswillowtreeYou are such a sweetie. First let me just say: welcome to the board. I'm glad you decided to start posting.

And now I'll say: Thank you for reading my humble little story. I am glad you are liking it so much.
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In the proper corporate fashion...and knowing how long these things take to go through channels and how often they can sit in someone's inbox...I would like to post an official requisition for some KISSAGE, please...
thank you, from the desk of umgaynow

yes ma'am
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taraforever
Thanks, hun. I'm glad you like the story. More soon, I promise.