Other Lesbians in the Media

[mollyig]

Hiya Chris, someone else mentioned the band Tatu earlier in (I think) this thread.

Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

[pikachu1060]

Oh... well, again, i'm always tthe last to find out about stuffs, so i always think i have a scoop, and then...



but hey, that's me so, sorry for the "mentioning something that had already been mentioned before"

Chris
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And I'm all mixed up, feeling cornered and rushed. They say it's my fault but I want her so much.
Wanna fly her away where the sun and rain come in over my face, wash away all the shame.
When they stop and stare - don't worry me. Cause I'm feeling for her what she's feeling for me.
I can try to pretend, I can try to forget. But it's driving me mad, going out of my head."tatu–all the things she said"

[mollyig]

Àw don't cry. I feel all mean now!

Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

[relativegirl]

Aww, Margaret. I lurve Margaret!

~ If I should rock you,
the whole world would rock within my arms ~

[pikachu1060]

hey Mollyig,



I didn't wanna make you feel mean

So, promise, i won't cry

i have my smiling face on

Chris
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There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands
You seek problems because you need their gifts
Richard Bach - Illusions

[AutumnT]

I always loved this line of hers:

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“Am I gay? Am I straight? I’m just slutty – where’s my parade?”

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Autumn

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Buffy Season 6: It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

[Killin Joke]

Ooh, I'm so out of it...(pun intended) Ok, Dr G, the Belgian Kitten mentioning the lesbian couple in Costa was probably me. I've forced myself to watch the silly show, or at least laugh with the macho bullshit, in order to catch a glimpse of 'em and see if it's worth it. Thank W/T for this board, coz without it I would be missing out on all the scoops. As Garfield typed: it's apparently only in the 2nd and 3th season the maintext makes an appearance. Doh ! I've been torturing myself for nothing... Ah well, maybe it's a start to pick up any subtext (girly hugs ?). Couldn't see the pics you scanned, G: pity. Guess I'll have to wait for the next season.



Furthermore: t.A.T.u : didn't know them. Followed the link to their website, but it took me a couple of times, refreshing windows, etc. to finally see the video's. First saw the mixed drum version, than the original one... And I must say, the music isn't half as bad as I'd expected, coz a kitten didn't like it. Granted, the voices are quite high and not that strong, but the simple lyrics, the melody has a certain charm to it. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it sounds kinda tragic. Must be their Russian background maybe. Not industrial or anything, just slightly dark. As some kitten pointed out: the song could really help youngsters, hey, even me, to deal with these issues. An aunt of mine is going on a holiday to Russia soon, so I handed in a request: note with the name of their full album 200km/h in the wrong lane, and singles: All the things she said; and: Not gonna get us. I'm such a sucker for buying debut albums, singers or bands who often don't make it after that... ah well.



As far as the exploitation factor is concerned... I've thought about that. It disturbs me too that they're only minors. But then again, if you look at the music bizz, that seems to happen more often lately. Kids get thrown in at such an early age, it's not healthy anymore. If they're tough enough, they make it. Britney sure reels in the money, no doubt with sacrificing a lot of her innocence/youth... If it's alright for straight girls to go around and kiss, make out in musicvideo's, why can't gay/bi ? Of course it's hard to determine whether it's real, an honest statement, or a complicated network of managers, big bosses trying to use and abuse it. I hope the two are gutsy enough to follow their instinct and don't yield. According to an interview they're quite a handful, giving producers, etc. a run for their money. Good on them ! Kittens gotta have teeth



Funny you talked about Margaret Cho. I've been on this backpacking holiday to Ireland, and on the last day but one, 3 cool American girls (lesbians), came into the pub and sat down at the table next to us. To make a long story short, we ended up babbling, laughing, drinking, having fun, and one of 'm just had to tell my friend and me about Margaret, that they were constantly yelling "Only gay !" or something at each other, during their entire trip, causing the rest of passengers, tourists,... to stare at 'm like they were nuts logically. It's weird how things in your life can come at the right place, at the right time, like some kind of omen. Coïncidence or something more: fate, destiny... Damn, the hot weather must be getting to me, if I start philosophizing.

[JJtheCool]

chelehel74 wrote:

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Also look for another Lifetime movie this fall about a married woman who falls in love with another woman in her office and then realizes she's been gay all along. I can't remember who it was that was cast as the married woman but I remember think interesting choice.

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There's info about the movie here:



Hope, Crewson in New TV Film



Some may remember Crewson as the Cadbury addict in "Better Than Chocolate".

JJtheCool

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[tyche]

Sarah Walters' novel has been adapted for TV by Andrew Davies (who adapted 'Moll Flanders' for ITV a few years ago and outraged traditionalists by adding a lesbian character of his own invention.)

Anyway, I found this little article on the BBC's Ceefax (text information) service - couldn't find anything similar on their website, so I sat in front of the TV and copied it down. They don't mention Sarah Walters, who wrote the original novel, at all, which is pretty rude if you ask me. Anyway, here it is:

Writer hopes for lesbian love trend

The writer behind a new BBC2 lesbian love drama said he hoped it would "start a fashion."

'Tipping the Velvet' lifts the bustles on the decadent 1890s world of music hall to tell a tale of love between two women.

Andrew Davies, the wrtier behind such period pieces as 'Middlemarch', 'Pride and Prejudice', and 'Vanity Fair', said it took costume drama "into new realms."

Davies said "It's an extraordinary novel. It takes us into a Victorian underworld that very few knew about."





I also found the cast list on IMDb: Rachael Stirling is Diana Rigg's daughter, Keeley Hawes was most recently seen in 'Spooks', the BBC's spy drama. And I've always thought Jodhi May is brilliant, so I'm glad she's in it too...

[Willow] should have taken time out for a few minutes to slowly torture Xander for sounding like a Hallmark card on crack. - My fiance's review of the 'yellow crayon' speech.

[Killin Joke]

K... Costa-alert for Belgian and satellite wired kitties (this sunday, ka2). Saw publicity for the last ep of the first season. Read: a kiss between the character of Katja... Damn, I don't even know her name: so paying attention to this show Anyway, a kiss between her and another girl, so I suspect that sets of the relationship for the 2nd (and 3th ?) season. Superficial characters really, but at least they're alive, and not evil (not much ) Ah well, they're showing reruns of B's 4th season again: saw the "I am you know... yours" ep today (forgot the real title: the reexaminations must be getting to me...) Lovely

[MAISEY12]

Hi Tyche,



I loved this book, so I'm chuffed that the BBC have decided to make a TV adaptation of it. I just hope that they do it justice. I guess the fact that the BBC have a reasonably good track record with making period drama, gives me some faith.



Do you have any idea when it is due to be broadcast?



Cheers





Ann-Marie

[semiramis]

Can I issue another plea for copies of this when it is shown? I don't doubt that our ABC TV in Australia may buy the series at some stage, but I'm too impatient to wait! I and several other friends are addicted to Sarah Waters and we'd love to see this series.

The longer I live, the less I resemble the rest of humanity
Violet Trefusis

[Killin Joke]

Ooh, should I be keeping a close eye on the BBCs ? Or can I just lay low for another x weeks... In desperate need of some quality. Been watching a lot of bad movies lately and no: not in a "Bad Girls"-way. They stopped that series here in Belgium BTW, won't be showing us the 3th season (read: the best part, with the happy ending). Still not over that, pissed about it... Will have to find alternative sources in the future...



But anyway: horrible flicks. I shamefully admit having watched Poison Ivy 2: Lily (or something), because Alyssa Milano played in it, and watch Charmed in secrecy (shh). Boring as (7th) heaven BUT they're was this small character in it that turned out to be kinda interesting, even if she had only a couple of lines, a few appearances. It was a computergirl (gotta luv those), with ordinary clothes, who welcomed this Lily character in their house. Most people who lived there were kinda eccentric, practiced some form of art. Anyway, to make a long story short. There's this scene were she informs about the well being of Lily, because she's all dressed up in black, slutty... Her asking was really sweet, because I had the impression she was sincerely concerned but she gets this snappy remark from Lily, that she should get from after her computer and maybe experience some real fun... Reaction: guess I won't introduce you to Roxanne then... She walks towards this woman and makes out with her before leaving the house, leaving Lily dumb-struck. Heh. Awesome ! Ok, maybe it's a stupid example, but at least I posted in the right thread. Short scene, but the lesbian girl came accross as the most friendliest of the house, a smart student (compie) and above all: sane and alive.



Which can't be said from the psychotic woman I witnessed in The Return of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Disturbing film, with Renee Zellweger, etc. Just wanted to say the woman, who seems innocent at first (don't they all) makes a sexually ambiguous impression. Of course she goes into torture-mode after that, with the rest of the gang, so that excludes the possibility of an mentally stable bisexual.



By now you probably all think I'm some sick individual with insane tastes in films... which is not true: I just watch pretty much everything, if the right actresses are in it (pity the videostore wasn't open today: Mullholland Drive's out on DVD Before freaking you out, I'll run, flee...

[Killin Joke]

P.S. The videoclip Something by Lasgo has a cute lesbian couple in it, sitting at a small round table, in a tavern or something, sweetly staring, smiling at each other, gently touching, stroking hands...

[TaraWannabe]

I love that video, and the song. I was lucky to be able to tape it (along with a couple of other videoclips) last Christmas while I visited my parents in Germany. Got all clips converted to NTSC and watch them still quite often here in Canada.

[Chewster]

Tipping the Velvet was just announced as being in the BBC's autumn schedule - no more details in the press that I saw. Already the highly reactionary Daily Mail has started to slam it as being destructive to the moral fabric of soceity in the same way as Queer as Folk (UK version.) They gave it a full page and pretty much guaranteed that people would know about it. Which is strange if they do not want people to watch.



Don't look for that paper to give it a decent review - whatever the actual quality of the program.



Edit: Unfortunately I lost the copy of the paper that comment was in so I can't get a transcript. Suffice it to say that it was not complementary.

Paul


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I am you know, yours.

Edited by: Chewster at: 8/22/02 11:40:54 pm

[Hyo Shin]

Here is an article about the series.



www.outuk.com/llgff/featu...iews23.htm

[AutumnT]

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Tipping the Velvet was just announced as being in the BBC's autumn schedule

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Yeah, but what about MY Autumn schedule?

Autumn

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Buffy Season 6: It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

[SJ]

There is a picture and small article about Tipping The Velvet in the new issue of The Radio Times.

[tyche]

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Been watching a lot of bad movies lately and no: not in a "Bad Girls"-way.

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Oh, you just reminded me: my cousin works on costumes for film/TV and she's just landed a job working on the new series of 'Bad Girls'. Apparently they are shooting for the next 9 months, so she has a fairly long-term contract, which is pretty much a rarity in that line of work...

And yeah, Tipping the Velvet is due to air on the BBC this autumn. Folks might want to check out the BBC's drama website for more info:

bbc.co.uk/

(Click on 'Drama'.) They don't seem to have any info about Tipping the Velvet up just yet, but I'm sure they will. They also have a fortnightly email newsletter giving details of forthcoming productions, to which I'm a subscriber, so I'll let you know if they give out any interesting info/air dates.

semiramis, and those of you in Australia, I think your video system is the same as ours, so if you find someone to tape the show for you, there shouldn't be any probs. watching it. I may be able to tape it, but I'm currently in the middle of trying to arrange a move to the US, so if the series airs after I move, obviously I won't be able to do anything...

[Willow] should have taken time out for a few minutes to slowly torture Xander for sounding like a Hallmark card on crack. - My fiance's review of the 'yellow crayon' speech.

[Killin Joke]

I'm not particularly fond of that type of music, TaraWannabe, but since they've made such a wicked videoclip, I'm willing to endure Lasgo... Tolerant video: always a plus



How cool for your cousin, Tyche ! If I can't spot any DVDs of Bad Girl's 3th season soon, I think I'm gonna bug a bunch of kittens by whining for volunteers to tape it for me.



So autumn, huh... Good to know. Thanks for the information, y'all

[Hyo Shin]

Finally!



www.tlavideo.com/template...2&v=2&sn=1

[xita]

Hyo Shin, thanks for the tip that looks really interesting!

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Childie -"Not all girls are raving bloody lesbians, you know!"

George - "That's a misfortune of which I am perfectly well aware."

The Killing of Sister George

[The Big I T]

The following article appeared in last weekend's Vancouver Sun. I meant to type it up then, but somehow managed to promptly misplace it...until now. It's from Lynne McNamara's "The Backlot" column and her interview bits with Lee Rose, the movie's writer/director/producer include some very interesting comments. Anyway, here it is....



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Leslie Hope, who played Kiefer Sutherland’s unlucky wife on the hit Fox series, 24, lost her job last season when her character was murdered. (TV Guide calls her character Teri, “the most beleaguered housewife in TV history.”)

But, when one thing ends, something even better is often waiting in the wings.

Hope, a native of Nova Scotia who went to school for a time in Victoria in her early teens, is in Vancouver this month for a juicy role in writer/director/producer Lee Rose’s newest movie for Lifetime, This Much I Know.

Hope plays Kate, who separates from her husband (played by D.W. Moffett) after marriage counseling doesn’t work. They have two teenage children. She decides to try real estate, and that’s where the real drama begins.

Her new boss, Mac, played by Wendy Crewson, is a lesbian whose lover has died. The two fall in love.

Lots of room for angst here – suddenly, Kate has to deal with divorce, her kids and her new-found sexuality.

Although it’s not based on a real-life story, Rose says she knows many people who have left marriages for same-sex relationships.

And, in real life, in fact, the two Canucks, Hope and Crewson, are pals – Hope directed Crewson in her 2001 feature, Swimming Lessons.

This Much I Know also stars some of Rose’s favourites -- Toronto’s Alison Pill, Broadway stars Christine Ebersole and Elizabeth Franz. Margo Martindale, veteran actress Irma P. Hall (Soul Food) and Brent Spiner (Lieutenant Commander Data in the Star Trek movies and TV’s The Next Generation) all of whom she’s worked with in the past.

Rose, who shot her Showtime mini-series, A Girl Thing, and TV movies Navigating the Heart, The Color of Courage, An Unexpected Life and An Unexpected Family (both Unexpected with Stockard Channing) here in Vancouver, also filmed a recent movie, What Girls Learn, in Toronto.

But she’s no traitor. “I did not want to go – they made me go,” she says with a laugh, “and I’m very happy to be back!”

Is she driven to write?

“I don’t know if I’m that driven, but I do love making movies and I do love bringing actors back that I’ve worked with before. I do love the community of making a movie, which is I guess what keeps me doing it.”

The network came to her this time, after the huge success of a Phoenix-shot project, The Truth About Jane, also with Channing.

The highest rated Lifetime movie in five years, it dealt with a teen girl coming to grips with her lesbian sexuality. They asked Rose if she could do an adult take on those issues. She finished the script in four weeks.

“It’s basically what all my movies are about,” says Rose, “that you should be able to love whoever you want to love and that people really do do the best that they can do even if at the moment sometimes, it’s not really great.

“I think everything I’ve ever done is about people making baby steps toward some sort of understanding or tolerance or acceptance.”

Does she think we’re getting any closer to that understanding?

“I don’t,” she says. “I think it’s still the biggest problem everyone has and I think Sept. 11 is the perfect example. Because people didn’t like the way we believe and it’s all about differences. Look at Israel. I mean, Jesus! It’s because someone is different than you are and they’re killing each other every damn day. I don’t know how you get it better, but my job, in my little tiny world, is to keep chipping away, if I can. You’ve got to keep trying, because if you can open one mind per movie then it’s better than not opening any.”

This Much I Know will premiere on Lifetime in early 2003.

[xita]

I had no idea that The Truth About Jane was the highest rated lifetime movie iin 5 years. It was very well done, I was very impressed with that movie even if Channing's reaction was on the extreme side. I look forward to this new project, thanks for that article, The Big I T

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Childie -"Not all girls are raving bloody lesbians, you know!"

George - "That's a misfortune of which I am perfectly well aware."

The Killing of Sister George

[stillflygrlop]

I was reading through some posts and I happened to come upon one that said they were surprised Portia de Rossi was gay. Is that true? I find that hard to believe because she looks like the epitome of....well, femaleness

[Kendahl897]

Yep, she's gay. And if I'm not mistaken, ''married'' to Ringo Starr's daughter or stepdaughter, not sure which.

[semiramis]

Are you saying that someone who is really femme can't be gay? Cause that's really stereotyping..... There have been a number of models that have come out (Sophie Ward, Rachel Hunter for instance).



Being a beautiful feminine woman does not automatically exclude someone from the gay club.........

The longer I live, the less I resemble the rest of humanity
Violet Trefusis

[Warduke]

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I find that hard to believe because she looks like the epitome of....well, femaleness

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Well then, please enlighten us as to what a lesbian should look like?



I guess you think to be gay, a woman must look and act like a man right?

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Stand and tremble at the sight of Durin’s Bane

[xita]

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Portia de Rossi was gay. Is that true? I find that hard to believe because she looks like the epitome of....well, femaleness

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Ok, I am really trying to read this and not find it insulting and I find I can't. So I will ask that you maybe explain what you mean. Because implying that lesbians can't be well female is so insulting, I wouldn't even know where to start. If you are implying lesbians can't be feminine, well that too is insulting and I wouldn't even know where to start.

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Childie -"Not all girls are raving bloody lesbians, you know!"

George - "That's a misfortune of which I am perfectly well aware."

The Killing of Sister George