No one here gets out alive. Dead artist thread.

[kajo 2000]

LilacWine22: I am in the UK and I heard about Robert Palmer's death from the lunch-time ITN news bulletin. So then I looked for online confirmation of the story to post here.





Edited to add: Or maybe Web Warlock's theory is correct.

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"I want to be Byron... because I want to date young boys." Amber Benson

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[seurat]

This might be a guy thing, and a guy of a certain age thing at that, but I really wanted to be like George Plimpton when I was a kid. Paper Lion and Out Of My League were among my favorite early books, and his style of participatory journalism looked like so much fun that it steered me towards journalism school later. He lived a good, long and mostly happy life (altho sadly, Plimpton was standing a few feet in front of Bobby JFK when he was shot) and was always someone I admired and respected.



Robert Palmer made two early albums that I loved, both with Lowell George and other members of the great original lineup of Little Feat. His later work never did much for me, but it was fun and you always got the feeling he loved what he was doing and enjoyed every moment of it. You can't ask for more than that.

"Always took candy from strangers/ Didn't wanna get me no trade/ Never want to be like Papa/ Working for the boss every night and day. I need a love to keep me happy, baby won't you keep me happy."-Keith Richards

[Gatito Grande]

Palmer radiated cool: as someone largely lacking same (and wishing that were otherwise), I admired him for it. (Is that how you get gorgeous women to "back" you? By looking like you don't care? )



I've often enjoyed Plimpton's bon mots through the years---if this isn't too indiscreet, was he gay? I got that vibe off of him, but I've never heard that he was (maybe it's the similar patrician accent ala Gore Vidal, who of course is gay). Then again, no one's mentioned a wife (whether widow, or ex, or whatever) either.



GG "Whitey" off of Leave it to Beaver died today, too, but I never watched that show Out

[Willowlicious]

Since I'm a big classic movie buff, this one makes me sad. "Singin' in the Rain" is one of my all-time favorite films and Donald O'Connor was fantastic in it. Geez, the celebs are dropping like flies this year.





Entertainer Donald O'Connor dies at 78



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Sept. 27, 2003 | LOS ANGELES (AP) --



Entertainer Donald O'Connor, who combined comedy and acrobatics in the show-stopping "Make 'Em Laugh" number in the classic movie "Singin' in the Rain," died Saturday, his daughter said. He was 78.



O'Connor, who had been in declining health in recent years, died of heart failure at a retirement home in Calabasas, his daughter, Alicia O'Connor, told The Associated Press.



In a brief statement, the family said that among O'Connor's last words was the following quip: "I'd like to thank the Academy for my lifetime achievement award that I will eventually get."



O'Connor won an Emmy, but never an Oscar. He was best known for films he made in the 1950s -- a series of highly successful "Francis the Talking Mule" comedies and movie musicals that put his song and dance talents to good use.



Songs in movie musicals are often touching or exciting, but O'Connor performed a rare feat with a number that were laugh-out-loud funny.



The best, 1952's "Singin' in the Rain," also starred Gene Kelly and Debbie Reynolds and took a satirical look at Hollywood during the transition from silent to sound pictures.



As he sings "Make 'Em Laugh," O'Connor dances with a prop dummy and performs all manner of amusing acrobatics.



"Someone handed me a dummy that was on the stage," he recalled in a 1995 Associated Press interview. "That was the only prop I used. I did a pratfall and we wrote that down. Every time I did something that got a laugh, we wrote it down to keep in the number."



The American Film Institute's list of the top 100 American movies ever made ranked "Singin' in the Rain" at No. 10.



Among O'Connor's other '50s musicals were "Call Me Madam," "Anything Goes" and "There's No Business Like Show Business."



He said it was a fluke that he landed in so many musicals, noting he started out as a "straight" actor. He also said his song-and-dance image came with a downside.



"Back then, when you were typecast that way, it was very difficult to get dramatic parts," he recalled. "Look at Fred Astaire, who was a darn good actor."



The "Francis" comedies, which featured a bumbling O'Connor and a talking mule, began in 1949. A few years later, the man who directed them created the "Mr. Ed" TV series.



O'Connor quit the "Francis" series in 1955, saying, "When you've made six pictures and the mule still gets more fan mail than you do ...."



O'Connor also had some success in television. He won an Emmy for "The Colgate Comedy Hour" in 1954 and appeared in "The Donald O'Connor Texaco Show" from 1954 to 1955.



Born in Chicago to circus performers who went into vaudeville, O'Connor joined his family's act when he was an infant. He made his film debut at age 11 in a dancing scene with two of his brothers in "Melody for Two."



As a contract actor for Paramount, he played adolescent roles in several films, including Huckleberry Finn in "Tom Sawyer -- Detective" (1938). He was Bing Crosby's kid brother in "Sing You Sinners" (1938), which he later ranked among his favorite roles.



When he grew too big for child roles, he briefly returned to vaudeville, but was soon back in Hollywood playing high-energy juvenile leads opposite such actresses as Gloria Jean and Susanna Foster.



In recent years, he continued working when he found a project he liked, such as appearing in an episode of "Tales From the Crypt."



But he said he had little desire to leave home for long stretches. He and his wife had moved to Arizona after their California home was damaged in the 1994 Northridge earthquake.



"Revivals are so popular now. But doing one would mean being out in cold, cold New York for a year, a year and a half," he said. "I'd rather do something where I go in and work a week, maybe three days. Get it done and come back home."

[Gatito Grande]

Dear Donald.



(He was one of a select group of three, w/ me: Dear Donald. Dear Gene. Dear Fred. No last names necessary!)



Dear Donald is gone.



GG I don't think Donald, Gene or Fred require angel's wings : they're light enough on their feet already! Out



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ETA: The great director Elia Kazan has just kicked it. While films like On the Waterfront sealed his rep as artist, he'll forever be tainted (IMHO) by his naming of names to Joseph McCarthy (which led directly to the "blacklist," which prevented other artists from working in Hollywood for *decades*, and for which Kazan never apologized).



Mr. Kazan is perfect example that while ars gratia artis is a great ideal, a slimy artist is still a poor excuse for a human being. YMMV.

Edited by: Gatito Grande at: 9/28/03 9:06 pm

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Originally posted by nothingman

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I don't know how many of you kittens are indie rock fans, but I just thought I would share this sad news...cuz I am sad

I just found out today that Elliott Smith died yesterday at his home in LA.

A brief article about his life and his death can be found here:

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1479869 ... iott.jhtml
I know there are more articles and stuff out there...but one is enough I suppose

If you have never heard his music I totally recommend checking it out...it is excellent stuff, beautiful lyrics...awesome music. Some of you might recognize his music from the Good Will Hunting soundtrack. I had a chance to see him play at The Derby in LA about two months ago, and little did I know that it would be my first and last time to see him play. We'll miss you Elliott

Edited by: xita  at: 10/22/03 7:05 pm

[WebWarlock]

From CNN.

www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/...index.html

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Actor Fred Berry -- TV's 'Rerun' -- dies at 52



LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Actor Fred Berry, best known as "Rerun" on the 1970s TV show "What's Happening!!", has died, his business manager said Wednesday. He was 52.



Arlene Thornton said the actor died Tuesday at his home in Los Angeles. She did not have any details on the cause of death. The Associated Press reported that Berry died of natural causes. The AP said the county coroner was investigating, but that Berry's friends said he had been ill because of a recent stroke.



Berry played the jolly and rotund Freddie "Rerun" Stubbs on the sitcom, which aired on ABC from 1976 to 1979. He was also part of the cast of "What's Happening Now!", an updated version of the show that aired in syndication from 1985 to 1988.



More recently, Berry played himself in this summer's movie "Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star" and on an April episode of the NBC sitcom "Scrubs," according to IMDb.com



In a 2002 interview with People magazine, Berry said he keeps the "Rerun" character alive by appearing in his trademark red beret and baggy pants as a pitchman for various companies through his business, Celeb-Events International.



"I'm working on my career on a corporate level now," he told the magazine. "They have celebrity weekends where they bring me out to sell (products to clients)."



He also said he had lost more than 100 pounds in the years after the sitcom ended.



Berry also was a minister.



"I'm not the ordinary orthodox pat-you-on-the-head type," he told the magazine. "I'm the type of minister that will get in your face. I'm real because it's a real world out there."



Born in St. Louis in 1951, Berry told People he was a millionaire by age 29, but fell into drug and alcohol addiction.



"The stress of success got to me. The fat jokes got to me. And I got heavily into drugs and alcohol. I was empty inside," he told the magazine in 1996.



In 1985 Berry kicked his addictions.



He is survived by two daughters and a son. He was married six times, to four women.



Berry told People in 2002 that was happy to be known as "Rerun."



"I'm still called 'Rerun' and I love it!" he says. "People ask me to dance every day, no matter where I am -- in the grocery store or in the boardroom."

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[DaddyCatALSO]

Don't know how many of you remember this lady; she did a _Twilight Zone_ and a _Name of the Game_ and a lot of movies; _Three Women_ w Sissy Spacek and Shelley Duvall, a no-speaking aprt in _Ti's a MAd MAdd MAdd Mad World_, one of the Matt Helm films. all I caN THINK OF RIGHT NOW. She was 72, a small bit older than I expected. Apparently mainly quit "The Biz" about 20 years back and was a clinical psychologist in private practice

[Gatito Grande]

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Bobby Hatfield of Righteous Brothers dead at 63

Thursday, November 6, 2003 Posted: 5:08 AM EST (1008 GMT)





KALAMAZOO, Michigan (AP) -- Bobby Hatfield, who with partner Bill Medley pioneered "blue-eyed soul" as the Righteous Brothers with hits like "Unchained Melody" and "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling," died Wednesday night of undetermined causes at a hotel, his manager said. He was 63.



Hatfield's body was discovered in his bed at 7 p.m. EST, a half-hour before the duo was to perform at Miller Auditorium on the Western Michigan University campus, manager David Cohen said.



"It's a shock, a real shock," Cohen said during a telephone interview. Medley, who teamed with Hatfield 42 years ago, was "broken up. He's not even coherent," Cohen said.



Hatfield's body was taken from the hotel about 10 p.m. directly to Lansing, where an autopsy was to be performed, Joe Hakim, an executive with the Radisson Plaza Hotel in Kalamazoo, told the Kalamazoo Gazette.



Miller Auditorium executive director Bill Biddle told the audience at 7:05 p.m. that the 7:30 p.m. show had been canceled because of "a personal emergency of an unspecified nature."



Hatfield had been sleeping most of the day in his room, Hakim said. When he didn't answer a wakeup call about 6 p.m., hotel staff and authorities entered the room and found the singer's body.



The Righteous Brothers were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame earlier this year.



Their signature 1964 single, "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling," has been cited by numerous sources as the most-programmed song in radio history. Later 1960s hits included "Soul and Inspiration" and "Unchained Melody."



Robert Lee Hatfield was born August 10, 1940, in Beaver Dam, Wisconsin. His family moved to Anaheim, California, when he was 4.



Hatfield organized singing and instrumental groups in high school while helping his parents with their dry cleaning business.



An avid athlete, Hatfield considered a career in professional baseball but found his true calling in music -- a love he pursued while attending Long Beach State University, where he formed a band and performed at bars and proms.



Hatfield teamed up with Medley in 1962 as part of a five-piece group called The Paramours. According to the Righteous Brothers Web site, a black Marine called out during one of their performances, "That was righteous, brothers!" They renamed themselves the Righteous Brothers before the release of their first album in 1963.



After splitting up in 1968, they reunited in 1974 and returned to the top of the charts with "Rock and Roll Heaven."



"Unchained Melody" was featured in the 1990 movie "Ghost," and a re-recorded version earned Hatfield and Medley a Grammy nomination.

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GG To go out at 63, still on the road, performing: not a terrible fate for a pop star of this era. Out



I'm just remembering a song that the Righteous Brothers did in the 70s:



"If you believe in forever,

Then Life is just a One Night Stand.

If there's a Rock-n-Roll Heaven,

You know they got a Hell of a Band!



Rock (R&B) on, Bobby!

[Rosenberg]

Yes, I was shocked to hear about Bobby Hatfield when I turned on the radio this morning. Ironically, I was going to hear the Righteous Brothers perform in Dearborn this Sunday, so it hit me even harder when I heard the news. Their music always reminded me of happier times when I was a kid and one of their songs would come on the radio. Unchained Melody has got to be one of the most romantic songs ever recorded, and it’s been going through my mind all day.

[DaddyCatALSO]

My wife was a big fan of the Righteous Brothers, altho she like dBill more than bobby. (Lost a LOT of her favorites this year; Ritter, Crenna. I'm ALMOST sorry we're not in contact anymore.)Shades of what happened with you just now, Rosenberg, she had tickets for an ELvis concert in September 1977 and he died in August.



Oddly enough, the song of theirs I most remmeber was not one of their trademarks, but "Somewhere My Love" from the _Dr. Zhivago_ soundtrack. Morbidly enough, a movie which begins with a funeral.



Don't think I've ever actually heard "RocknRoll Heaven" but I buy the concept. Ah well, here's to the memories.

[oneyedchicklet]

I've always loved the Righteous Brothers. "Soul and Inspiration" was my favorite of theirs. It's a great loss to the music industry on his passing.

I was a huge Harry Chapin fan and had tickets to see him the night after his fatal car crash. We didn't hear about the accident until about an hour before we were leaving for the show. I went in the house to get ready and when I came downstairs, my mom asked if it was Harry we were going to see. She said that they just announced on the news that he was killed in a car accident. I thought it was a joke. So we left for the show only to hear it confirmed on the radio on our way. We went anyway and there was a tribute show for him.

Rosenberg, check it out because they still may have some sort of memorial show for him too.



Love to All,

Barb



Love to All,

Barb

Now serving Bitter, party of one. Your table is ready.

[DaddyCatALSO]

This one's waaaay outdated and the name will likely rpovoke a "Huh?" from anyone who's not a hard-core fan of old, OLD monster flicks. Anne Gwynne was a Universal Pictures horror-babe of the 40s and minor WW2 pin-up girl. (born in 1918, she was only a year younger than my parents but I admit to a semi-crush years ago; IMHO she was prettier than Rita Hayworth and Betty Grable back in the day)



She appeared in lots of genre stuff, including T_he Black Cat_ _House of Frankenstein_ one of the Flash Gordon serials, _Weird Woman_, _Murder in the Blue Room_ (where she sang!) _Meteor Monster_ and others.



Despite 10 years of health problems, I heard she was appearing at fan events into her last year. She died March 31 of a stroke following surgery.



This is a serious thread so anyone who deosn't want to read soemthing which takes off into the ridiculous should stop here. But reading Anne's obit set me on a certain track which follows....





I can totally see Aly and Amber at 88 and 85 (helped by the medical arts of the 2060s) still making con appearances, perhaps on some of the Lagrange colonies. It would be just like them. Maybe Sarah will be joining them, since by then the residuals from the remake of _SHE!_ I keep saying SMG should make will be overcome by inflation and _Scooby Doo 26, The Retirement Home Years Chapter 2_ will probably bomb so she'll need the appearance fee. If I make it to 106 and my retirement home is on a close enough satellite I might shuttle over myself . At the rate I'm going it'll probably be not just my last but also my first chance to meet any of them .

[Warduke]

I just read this at TV Guide...

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SAD NEWS: Word is out that actor Jonathan Brandis was discovered dead in his Los Angeles apartment on Nov. 12. The 27-year-old actor was beloved among Gen-Xers for his roles in Neverending Story 2 and NBC's mid-90s series, seaQuest DSV. Coroners pointed to suicide as the possible cause of death, although more testing will occur before a final ruling. Fans last saw Brandis — looking very handsome and grown up — in his recent indie film, The Year That Trembled.

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[urnofosiris]

It's beginning to look as if being an actor is a health risk, he was way too young. Yesterday, I heard on Dutch TV that Gene Anthony Ray who played Leroy in Fame died last week. He was only 41.



www.eonline.com/News/Item...57,00.html

The last mosquito that bit me had to check into the Betty Ford Clinic.

--Patsy Stone

[WebWarlock]

www.chicagotribune.com/ne...i-news-hed

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TV's Captain Kangaroo dies



By Christopher Graff

The Associated Press

Published January 23, 2004, 1:02 PM CST



QUECHEE, Vt. -- Bob Keeshan, who gently entertained and educated generations of children as television's walrus-mustachioed Captain Kangaroo, died Friday at 76.



Keeshan died of a long illness, his family said in a statement.



Keeshan's "Captain Kangaroo" premiered on CBS in 1955 and ran for 30 years before moving to public television for six more. It was wildly popular among children and won six Emmy Awards, three Gabriels and three Peabody Awards.



The format was simple: Each day, Captain Kangaroo, with his sugar-bowl haircut and uniform coat, would wander through his Treasure House, chatting with his good friend Mr. Green Jeans, played by Hugh "Lumpy" Brannum.



He would visit with puppet animals, like Bunny Rabbit, who was scolded for eating too many carrots, and Mr. Moose, who loved to tell knock-knock jokes.



But the show revolved about the grandfatherly Captain Kangaroo, whose name was inspired by the kangaroo pouch-like pockets of the coat Keeshan wore.



"I was impressed with the potential positive relationship between grandparents and grandchildren, so I chose an elderly character," Keeshan said.



Keeshan, born in Lynbrook, N.Y., became a page at NBC while he was in high school. He joined the Marine Corps in 1945.



His first television appearance came in 1948, when he played the voiceless, horn-honking Clarabell the Clown on the "Howdy Doody Show," a role he created and played for five years.



Later he played Corny the clown, the host of a noontime cartoon program in New York City.



"Captain Kangaroo" debuted on Oct. 3, 1955, and Keeshan remained in that role until 1993.



Keeshan, who moved to Vermont in 1990, remained active as a children's advocate, writing books, lecturing and lobbying on behalf of children's issues.



He was critical of today's TV programs for children, saying they were too full of violence. And he spoke wherever he went about the importance of good parenting.



"Parents are the ultimate role models for children," he said. "Every word, movement and action has an effect. No other person or outside force has a greater influence on a child than the parent."



When Fred Rogers, the gentle host of "Mister Rogers' Neighborhood," died last year, Keeshan recalled how they often spoke about the state of children's programming.



"I don't think it's any secret that Fred and I were not very happy with the way children's television had gone," Keeshan said.



In 1987, Keeshan and former Tennessee Gov. Lamar Alexander co-founded Corporate Family Solutions, an organization that provided day-care programs to businesses around the country.



Keeshan believed children learn more in the first six years of life than at any other time and was a strong advocate of day care that provides emotional, physical and intellectual development for children.



"Play is the work of children. It's very serious stuff. And if it's properly structured in a developmental program, children can blossom," he said.



Keeshan's wife, Jeanne, died in 1990. He had three children.

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[Rosenberg]

I heard the news on the radio this afternoon that Captain Kangaroo had died. The news saddened me because he was an American icon from a less cynical time and another connection with my childhood is now gone.

[Gatito Grande]

You and me both, Rosenburg. He's among my earliest TV memories (and evidently left me wanting more).



GG And he really wasn't that old (younger than my parents) Out

[Renee85]

You guys can leave a note here for Bob "Captain Kangaroo" Keeshan, maybe some flowers and stuff. Here's a link that goes directly to him. ~~> www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=6881779



And here's a link www.findagrave.com/ to the actual site where you can browse through tons other celebrities, military figures, and non-celebrities as well. I don't know if any of you guys know about this site but it's pretty interesting and is updated frequently with new pictures, notes, and flowers. You can find Johnny Cash's grave, John Ritter, Aaliyah, and tons of others.



I left an anonymous note to John Ritter because I loved him in Three's Company.





-Renee-

"The moment you have in your heart this extraordinary thing called love and feel the depth, the delight, the ecstasy of it, you will discover that for you the world is transformed." -J. Krishnamurti

Edited by: Renee85  at: 1/24/04 7:41 am

[Infinite Astronaut]

Hey,

You know, "no one here gets out alive" is a line from the Doors' song Five to One. Incidentally, Jim Morrison, the lead singer of the Doors is dead. He died in 1972. He was only 27.



I'm a big Doors fan, so I just thought I should mention it.

[seurat]

They finally found Spaulding Grays' body on the weekend and identified it yesterday. I don't know how many kittens were familiar with his work, but those of us lucky enough to see him do one of his monologues won't forget him. I saw him do Swimming To Cambodia here years ago and loved it. Even though I expected this news, and I suppose it does at least provide some finality for his widow and children, it still made me very sad. I'm not clever enough with computers to do the whole go here, read this bio thing, so instead I'll suggest you read one of his books someday. I think you'll enjoy it.

Edited by: seurat at: 3/9/04 2:28 pm

[skittles]

seurat, here is a link to Spaulding Gray's obit at the NYTimes... sorry registration required ... I'll post it if anyone wants to read it..



Also gone are Paul Winfield from a heart attack. (CNN obit link) He played Martin Luther King, and in two Sounder movies... and I remember him from Wiseguy playing the record producer.. I also remember him in Star Trek: Wrath of Khan. ETA: GG, I'd forgotten that he'd been on B5



Also, Robert Pastorelli. (CNN obit link) I remember when he guested (twice) on Beauty & the Beast (the tv series) and when he co-starred on Murphy Brown. Funny guy. Age 49. They found his body in his apartment. An autopsy will be performed. They said that drug paraphenalia was found in the apartment. sad...

skittles



"I'll tell you how the sun rose, --A ribbon at a time." Emily Dickinson

Edited by: skittles at: 3/9/04 2:16 pm

[Gatito Grande]

Yeah, seurat, I was very sorry to hear about Spaulding Gray (he's unfortunate proof that suicidal depression can be an inherited disease).



I just heard today that Paul Winfield has died: I've long been a fan of his. He was very moving in Sounder and his portrayal of Martin Luther King Jr (despite looking almost nothing like him) was probably the best ever. He also did a lot of "genre" television including Star Trek (DS9 IIRC? Or was it Voyager?) and Babylon 5. He will be missed.



Here's an obit: www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/...index.html



GG 62 is too young! Out

[Warduke]

From Yahoo...

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'Murphy Brown' Co-Star Pastorelli Dies Aged 49



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Robert Pastorelli, the boxer-turned-actor best known to television audiences as the house painter Eldin on long-running CBS comedy "Murphy Brown," has died, the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office said on Tuesday.



Pastorelli, 49, was found dead in the bathroom of his Hollywood Hills home on Monday afternoon, a coroner's spokesman said. Drug paraphernalia was found on the scene, he added, and an autopsy was to be conducted on Tuesday.



The New Jersey-born Pastorelli got into stage acting in the 1970s in productions like "Rebel Without A Cause" but found his greatest fame on "Murphy Brown," painting the house of the title character played by Candice Bergen (news) but never quite finishing his ambitious artistic projects on her walls.



He briefly had his own series, "Double Rush," about the manager of a bicycle messenger service. Most recently, he was cast in the film "Be Cool," a sequel to "Get Shorty."



Syndicated TV entertainment show Access Hollywood, which first reported the actor's death, said his girlfriend died in the same home in early 1999. The two had a daughter.

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[urnofosiris]

Hmm, what is it with these (semi) famous people dying at once. I saw Robert Pastorelli in Murphy Brown, but like Skittles, I remembered him from B&tB first and foremost. What a waste.



Yesterday Dutch actor, TV personality, author etc. etc. Albert Mol died aged 87, not long after his 67 year old husband who unexpectedly died on august 17th 2003, they had been together for 35 years. Very few Kittens will know who he is, him being Dutch and all, but I do want to mention him here. He was the first public figure to openly state he was gay, this was back in the 60´s when this was still a taboo in the Netherlands.



In an interview on national TV he was asked whether he was gay and he looked straight into the camera and replied "if you promise not to tell anyone else.....yes"

Edited by: DrG at: 3/9/04 3:46 pm

[skittles]

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In an interview on national TV he was asked whether he was gay and he looked straight into the camera and replied "if you promise not to tell anyone else.....yes"

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I can just see that. (even though I didn't) Isn't it great how some people can come out & say things like that and the world loves them for it. It says a lot about the man that he still worked in the public eye. He had "it" ... the magickaly ability to transcend societies barriers. (or at least to make it look easy)



Thank-you, Dr G.

skittles



"I'll tell you how the sun rose, --A ribbon at a time." Emily Dickinson

[urnofosiris]

He was a great comedian and so much more. An allround talented artist and very quick witted until the day he died. I just read a brief biography and what I did not know know is that in the late 40s he had a relationship with a woman for 4 years, married her and had a daughter. They got divorced and remained good friends, but what was she thinking. The fact that he was not really a handsome man is besides the point, but can you say hello gay now? The site is in Dutch but the pics provide a face to the name and if you scroll down there is a pic of him dancing with his husband on their wedding day. I doubt the world and straight marriages everywhere suffered because of them.

[WebWarlock]

I remember an article with Paul Winfield once where he talked about his roles.



When asked what he was most remembered for by Trek fans it was not Captain Tyrel from ST:Wrath of Khan or even Martin Luther King (which I thought he was beyond fantastic in, that autopsy scene at the end still haunts me) but as Captain Dathon in the TNG episode "Darmok".



He was the alien that only spoke in story elements, so he kidnaps Picard so they can both fight a dangerous monster in hopes of learning to communicate.



It is ranked as one of the best TNG episodes ever and Winfield, even though he speaking nonsense (sort of) and under tons of makeup puts on an excellent performance. A tribute to how great an actor he was.



Here is is his obit page from StarTrek.com.



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[SySnootles]

I hate to say that I wasn't terribly surprised to hear of the death of Spaulding Gray. He was a brilliant man with many demons. I hope he is able to find the peace he was never able to attain in this life.



Robert Pastorelli shocked me, tho. I remember him mostly from Murphy Brown (and I loved Eldin), but completely forgot about Beauty and the Beast until it skittles mentioned it. It's a shame.



I was also shocked to learn about Paul Winfield. My first memory of him was from Star Trek II: The Wraith of Kahn (that earwig-thingy... ewwww!!!), but I really remember him from being the Magic Mirror in the very short lived 80's sitcom, The Charmings. If you don't remember that one, it's because you weren't meant to. (Hey, I liked it when I was 10!)

I was also surprised to learn that he had a 30 year relationship with set television set designer Charles Gillian Jr.. I had no idea. But I am gonna miss him. Thank goodness for my Star Trek: The Next Generation video tape collection. (Loved "Darmok." One of the best of any of the Trek series.)

Catie



When I'm 130 years old, I want a pill that makes me so happy and so unself-conscious and so randy I'm willing to make love to my fuzzy bed slippers on my front lawn and yodel at the same time. -- Scott Adams from Dilbert and the way of the Weasel

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I used to love watching Murphy Brown. Elden was one of my favorite characters. It just cracked me up that he never seemed to finish painting.

Paul Winfield I used to see on Picket Fences. That was one of my favorite shows back in the day. His most recent work was for A&E as narrator for City Confidential. He had one of those voices that I just love to hear. Like Gregory Peck and James Earl Jones.

City Confidential

They will both be sadly missed.



Love to All,

Barb

Now serving Bitter, party of one. Your table is ready.