Point Pleasant

[tkheaven]

Ok, ok .. the reason for my posting, and forgive me if any of the following makes you roll you eyes (if you didn't know you'll see as you read down), is because of this new show airing tonight @ 9pm EST on FOX. It's doesn't star any of our favorite stars (unless you can drool over Dina Meyer) and according to a snippet may even include a certain actor we, well, less than love due to a portrayal on BtVS. Will it have any gay/lesbain themed storylines along the way? Being as though it's about a young woman washed up on the shores of Pt. Pleasant, NJ (I better run for the hills) going through a journey of self revelation, including the tidbit how she's actually the product of a female human and the Devil himself...well, you know how that goes... quite possible temptation will lead to an array of "unnatural circumstances". *shrug* I think I can say that yes, there may be similar themes somewhere....(co-created by Marti Noxon).... I am a bit curious as to how this show may pan out (I'm a bit of a sci-fi gal, especially in dealing with deamons, heaven and hell, blah blah).



Here's what TV Tome had on it (read it to the very bottom): Point Pleasant

Here's the official site: FOX: Point Pleasant





Thoughts, ideas.... My only problem if it does turn out to be promising.. Smallville @ 9pm on WB...

Tk's new and improved "GrrArgg"...Crazy? Crazy?? I do not talk to myself...it's called thinking aloud...

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Tara ate her, devoured her from beneath. -The Edge of Silence giving new meaning to season seven's catch phrase.

bulldog: (gesturing to tk)"Can she get a Sloe Comfortable Screw Against the Wall?" female bartender: (laughing)"Honey, you're living in a fantasy world."

[anyone somewhere]

Well I guess I was beaten to the punch at making this thread but that's okay.



So I watched this so and was slightly surprised at how much I actually enjoyed it. I really think it has some potential.



I totally love Judy (played by Audrey Dollar) and of the little we saw of her I totally think she could be a lesbian. or maybe that's just wishful thinking, although i'm pretty sure she checked out Elisabeth Harnois's boobs a couple times but I digress.



So i'll have to watch a few more episodes to make up my mind whether or not I like the show but I enjoyed it. There's another one on tomorrow night on Fox at Eight, I think.

[Spikeizmine87]

So I watched it. And I really liked it! The acting could be a little bit better. But all in all I'll definatly be watching it next week! I love the concept of it as well. Every since Buffy ended Ive been waiting for a great show to capture my interest as much as Buffy did and Im really hoping Point Pleasant does this!

-Rose

"You were everything, everything that I wanted, we were meant to be supposed to be, but we lost it. All the memories so close to me just fade away.."-Avril

[Garner]

Well I must be in a bit of a minority here as I found Point Pleasent pretty unpleasent. I wasn't going to watch this just because Marti Noxious was involved, but my roommate wanted to give it a try and so I figured since the adds looked like they had potential I'd give it a look.



I found the whole thing inredibly boring and dull. The characters were cardboard and seemed way too 90210ish, interchangable and cliched. I didn't find any that stood out in any way at all. I found the only supernatural elements to be overly obtuse and not quite pointless, but so background as to be close to unimportant to the soap opera story unfolding in the foreground. The heavier semi-spooky music seemed to be the only difference between this and any of the Fox/WB teen dramas. After 20 minutes I had lost interest, and that was never regained by anything that happened afterwards. While the idea of good vs. evil is nice and something could come of the premise, it seems like this will devolve into a who's messing with who and the main girl will bounce between good and evil without anything ever being resolved and no end point ever being reached. An endless mire of inner demons, much akin to season sux on BtVS. In fact, I would go so far as to blame Noxon quite a bit for the horrible decline Buffy went through in season sux to a greater extent than I would have previously. Her talents seem to be better suited for daytime TV than a horror genre show.



I will definitely be giving the rest of the series a skip, and even the roommate, who has no prior BtVS axe to grind, has decided to watch something else instead. Bored now pretty much sums it up.



Garner

[sam7777]

Garner you are not the only one who thought it was a turgid soap opera: the devil is in the details

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It's been said the devil is in the details, and in the case of Fox's Point Pleasant (9 p.m. yesterday and tonight), that's literally true. Subtlety also is an important element when crafting a TV show, especially a soap and especially a soap with paranormal overtones. But there's nothing subtle about this humorless dark soap filled with teens in heat and their secret-holding parents.



Set in Point Pleasant, N.J., the series begins when the body of a teenage girl, Christina Nickson (Elisabeth Harnois), is spotted in the ocean by lifeguard Jesse Parker (Sam Page). He rescues her and takes her to the town doctor, Ben Kramer (Richard Burgi), whose own daughter died in a surfing accident three years ago. His other daughter, Judy (Aubrey Dollar), is a bit of a social outcast who ends up bonding with Christina when she recovers.



Grant Show has a mysterious role as Lucas Boyd, Christina's guardian who's seen in just two scenes but adds a nicely malevolent note as he lets slip the girl's hellacious lineage.



"She's the child of darkness, and she's under his protection now," Boyd says. "She's his daughter."



So that's why a beach bonfire flares up when Christina gets mad!



On the soapier side, Jesse is dating Paula Hargrove (Cameron Richardson), but his best friend Terry (Brent Weber) is trying to steal her from him. Paula's mom, Amber (Dina Meyer), has a thing for Doc Kramer, who also wanted her once upon a time.



Secret desires and longings are everywhere, along with skinny dipping and lust-filled dream sequences, which is what you'd expect from executive producer Neal Moritz, who also was responsible for the movie Cruel Intentions and its aborted TV spinoff. But all these teens in lust are not what viewers would expect from executive producer and show runner Marti Noxon, who previously worked on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, a much smarter and more sophisticated teen drama.



Maybe Point Pleasant will improve as viewers learn more about the characters, but I'm not convinced it will. If it does, I'll give the devil his due; until then I stick by my instinct:



Do I look forward to more episodes? Heck, no.

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It's hellishly awful.

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[Still Waters Run Deep]

Point Pleasant will be screened in the UK on E4 next Wednesday 26th 9pm [and on E4+1 at 10pm] if anyone has the slightest interest.



From what's been said so far I'll probably give it a miss unless the rumour of Amber being on it comes true, and then I'll tune in only to watch our girl. I suspect that if it's that bad she'll give it a miss, unless it pays for her new film.

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Still Waters



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[AmbersSecretAdmirer]

Must admit, it doesn't have a plot that makes me sit up and take notice, although it could be a slow burner that you may regret missing. I might watch the first ep, just to get my take on it.



If Amber is going on it, I will watch those eps but after reading just the synopsis alone, it isn't exciting me at all.

Tara & Willow Together Forever!!! Blessed Be Eternally!!!

[TyRex316]

I think they would have called this show, "The Omen", if the name and the whole concept hadn't been taken. So, they stuck with the concept and just changed the name. If nothing else the show will probably get Hollywood to revamp all three of the "Omen" films for audiences of today.

[willowfan13]

Not much to say about this show's re-hash of a lot of other teen soaps. I will say that I watched parts one and two hoping it would get better, but alas it doesn't.



Did anyone else who watched Pt. 1 think when the 3 main characters were standing on the pier, "Can someone say, Buffy, Willow & Xander?" I mean come on - a blonde, a redheaded nerdy girl, and a dumb jock who can seem to complete a sentence!



Hey Marti - it's over, you killed it - move on!

[AmbersSecretAdmirer]

So I watched part one last night, as it aired on British channel E4. Oh what a bore! The characters were very stereotypical and I agree very Teen soap. The adults weren't much better.



My main complaint however is that it (forgive the sexual inference here) "blew its load" in one ep. Within five minutes we are told that she is the daughter of darkness but her Mum was a good person. That she has 666 tattooed on her eye and that people want to kill her. Now that studd should have been kept until later in the season. Allowing the tension to be built up slowly and to really see "normality" crumble. To give so much of the game away so early was such a waste and it left the epsidoe completely devoid of tension. The sub-Omen deth scene was obvious in its set up which again detracted tension from the scene.



So, there is a big fight for her soul going to take place. Who will win? Will the bad gauys corrupt her? Will good win out?



At the end of the first ep, I found myself saying "Who cares?" This is not a good sign for any series.

Tara & Willow Together Forever!!! Blessed Be Eternally!!!

[urnofosiris]

The bad reviews made me curious enough to download the pilot and see it for myself. I cannot say it is the worst show I have seen this season, I reserve that honor for Medical Investigation which annoyed me beyond belief. The cliches, stereotypical characters and crappy ´been there done that´ stories of that show pissed me off too much to enjoy it´s crappiness. This pilot did not annoy me and therefore I could be amused by it´s badness.



The premise is in no way original, but most stories have already been told in one way or another, so I can´t hold that against this show. It could have been good, but I agree with ASA that it suffered from premature you know what. They could have taken the time to introduce the characters, set up the mystery, string us along, like with Lost or Desperate Housewives. How can they keep the story and any possible interest going for one season, let alone more?



Everything moved ultra fast. A woman drowns? Breath into her mouth twice and voila! She is alive and dries up like she just finished running for Ms Universe. Clearly she is the daughter of Satan, no mere mortal would pull that off. She of course immediately falls for the handsome guy and is at least subconsciously ready to commit bloody murder (of course that gasstation guy would not notice the HUGE pool of gasoline he was walking through), she is at least half blond girl after all so naturally she cannot be complete without a handsome boyfriend. The utter and complete lack of humor won´t work in it´s favor either.



The only thing that really did piss me off was that sleazy doctor. "An imperfection"? Nice bedside manner asshole. "That does not look like any birthmark I have ever seen". Yeah, GREAT way to reassure your patient nitwit. Still, for the most part I was amused by the cliched story and the one dimensional characters (can´t blame the actors for that).

I am not amused enough to keep watching and eventhough I have Medical Investigation three episodes to change my mind, I can´t do the same for this show.

Edited by: DrG at: 1/27/05 1:58 pm

[Incarnadine]

I gave it my 3 strikes rule. I managed to watch the first 2 episodes but only lasted about 20 minutes of tonight's ep. Pretty cast but that's about all it has going for it, American Gothic had a very similar premise but had far better writing and acting.

Veronica Mars: Look at you, all helpful.

Logan Echols: Hey, your peskiness being unleashed on Conner brings me joy. Annoy, tiny blonde one, annoy like the wind!

[Spikeizmine87]

I was liking this show up until Mr adam busch and is ugly face appeared on the screen. "shakes head" shame...

-Rose

"I would cry...I would die if I lost you..." Alex Parks

[angel of salvation]

I see all the bad reviews and wonder what all the fuss is about. so I will watch it tonight on E4 to see how bad or good this is. I heard it wasn't that great. Ah well. *ponders*



Jess xxx

'You're my angel of salvation, and hope, and strength...your my multi-angel'-Jay (My baby)

.:~*My anime site*~:.

[Garner]

I don't find PP horrible and awful beyond the badness of all things, that was Season Sux and Severed. It's just that it is bad in a dull sort of not interesting way. Boring characters, tired plots, basically just a poor job all around and not even worth watching to MST3K. So don't expect really wretched, that would at least be accomplishing something.



Garner

[angel of salvation]

ok so i watched some episodes of PP and think it looks okay. I keep looking at it and seeing where buffy clones can b seen, but its okay. I like the idea of the symbol in the iris thing. thats cool. but i kept looking at some characters and haiting them, probably becuase i though their acting sucked ass but hey. and sometimes i didn't get the plot at all but thats what you get for jumping in the late band wagen.



so pretty much okay start for this in my opinion, so i'll keep watching until it starts to really really annoying.



Jess xxx

'You're my angel of salvation, and hope, and strength...your my multi-angel'-Jay (My baby)

.:~*My anime site*~:.

[sam7777]

Well from what folks here are saying and the bits of the first ep that I could stand, I'm giving this rest of this a miss. There are alot of mediocre shows out there but these days I'm looking for more than ok to spend an hour on.



Blonde anti-Christ turns out to be not another Buffy

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Apparently they've cast a pretty blonde girl as the anti-Christ on The O.C. Oh no, wait, that was just the pilot episode for Point Pleasant. Never mind.



As one of the many deprived Buffy and Angel fans out there, I thought Point Pleasant, which premiered on Fox last month, was going to be, well, good.



After all, it was created by Marti Noxon, one of the producers and sometimes writer-director for Buffy, that amazing cult series, and Angel, its moderately successful spin-off. So it's safe to say that Noxon had the credentials to warrant a little confidence in her newest project. But, just like the sort-of ominous but mostly stupid dialogue in the first two episodes, she just didn't deliver.



The star of the show is Christina Nickson (Elisabeth Harnois), a troubled blonde teenager with strange, supernatural powers who, in the first episode, arrives in the small town in which the show is set, unaware of the perils that await her. Sound familiar?



But Christina doesn't pick up a stake and start dusting vampires. Instead, she gets rescued from the ocean in the first few minutes of the show by Jesse Parker (Sam Page), a local lifeguard and just another lemming among the many interchangeable, painfully average actors on the show.



Since the roads have been made inaccessible by the sudden, mysterious storm that has arisen, Jesse takes his discovery to the home of Ben Kramer (Richard Burgi), a local doctor, and his wife and daughter, Meg (Susan Walters) and Judy (Aubrey Dollar).



When Christina awakens, with her hair and makeup very much intact by the way, she reveals that her mother, who happens to be a native to Point Pleasant, disappeared after she was born and that she's on a mission to uncover her past. The family instantly offers to take her in and after a quick call to her father's assistant, she makes herself at home.



Meanwhile Christina's father, Kingston Nickson (James Morrison), and a smug, well-dressed man named Lucas Boyd (Grant Show) discuss Christina's arrival in Point Pleasant. Kingston is unsure about Christina being on her own, considering the sinister powers she seems to have, unbeknownst to her, but Boyd plays the Devil's Advocate and insists that his role in her life is over. It's time for her ‘real' father to step in - the Devil, of course; it doesn't take them long to reveal this little secret.



Back in Point Pleasant, trouble is stirring. Jesse's best friend Terry (Brent Weber) and his girlfriend Paula (Cameron Richardson) are messing around; Paula's mother, Amber (Dina Meyer) is lusting after Dr. Kramer; and there's an awful lot of sexual tension between Christina and Jesse. The clergymen at the church have their own problems and Christina keeps mysteriously causing terrible accidents when she gets upset (come on, how many times do you have to blow up a car with your mind to realize that you're the daughter of Satan).



And this is just in the first two episodes.



Noxon tries to fit an overwhelming amount of plot development into the first two episodes in order to pretty much let the rest of the season write itself (if there is a full season), but she doesn't even do it well.



The foregrounding of all the suburban drama just seems to be hiding poor writing on her part. The constant hints to ancient evils and the religious innuendos beg us to care about this story - after all, it's the anti-Christ for Christ's sake - but it's far too early and these characters are still far too two-dimensional for us to care if poor Christina is confused and scared about her strange powers and that weird birthmark on her eye that has become the trademark for the show (three sixes in a pretty symbol).



The sad part is that the concept for Point Pleasant has potential, as does Noxon, but apparently something has gone very wrong because the two have combined to form something very unpleasant (no pun intended).

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Fox was hoping for big ratings: Fox hopes new 'Point Pleasant' will challenge 'CSI' in ratings battle "Point Pleasant" slid to a 2.4/4, its lowest rating of the season versus 7.7/12 for a CSI" rerun (from zap2it).

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Edited by: sam7777  at: 2/10/05 10:04 am

[Big Dummy]

I caught it last night purely by coincidence. It was on after The OC and we hadn't gotten up to put Super-Size Me in the dvd player yet. I watched the first few minutes of it because the face of the main character was so familiar to me and it was driving me nuts that I couldn't think of who it was. Then the credits finally, mercifully rolled (the show was starting to kill me; longest intro before credits EVER!), and they showed the actresses name and I flipped out when I recognized her! Elizabeth Harnois was in my a cappella group in college. We were only in it together for a semester; I quit shortly thereafter because it was my senior year and I was kinda done), but wow...



Just thought I'd share my six degrees. Won't make me watch the show, but it was kinda exciting to recognize her.

[angel of salvation]

wow...i wanna share history with a celeb...



and i will agree...they are the LONGEST intro's into beginning credits I have ever seen! after the intro and the credits...it goes to comcecials cuz its been 15 mins already...



meh...



Jess xxx

'You're my angel of salvation, and hope, and strength...your my multi-angel'-Jay (My baby)

.:~*My anime site*~:.