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Re: Lost and X-files

Postby sam7777 » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:08 pm

GG: I outlined in the Xena thread why the end of *cough*XWP*cough* invalidates whole parts of the series beyond being just cliched/lousy but I thought we were done with that discussion by mutual agreement. However, we can resume in the Xena thread if you like since it's OT here.



To each their own but I know that the bad ends of XWP, X-files and W/T ended my interest in those shows such that I have no interest in repeats, merchandise, spin offs et al. Burning the fans does not a franchise build IMHO. I enjoyed aspects of all the above but have no desire to go back and look at them and even less desire to commit to a new show. I only catch eps here and there of anything. That is not a paradigm that Lindelof wants from Lost fans judging from what he said but is one that he rightly fears because of what has happned on other genre shows. The pall was cast.



In any case, Lindelof has the right idea about what not to emulate but it's unrealistic of him to make those kind of promises. As he said:
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"X-Files" creator Chris Carter and his writers used to swear up and down that they had the entire series mapped out, that they knew the answer to every question raised and would reveal it in due course
Now Lindelof is doing the swearing. Time will tell if he avoids the pitfalls. I for one retain a very healthy skepticism.



Still I'd say that the fact that Lindelof is bringing this matter up at all shows that my "attitude" is not unique (and is one he shares with regard to X-Files). It's highly laudable that Lindelof cares enough to bring the issue up rather than just dismiss folks who don't love what they do as having an attitude or not seeing his "vision". That certainly puts him ahead of the Bell curve.

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Re: Lost

Postby Warduke » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:54 pm

From TV Guide...



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Question: Your column makes it easy to get over the Wednesday hump. You always provide vital information to your readers. My question: Are there any plans for a Lost Season 1 DVD? If so, what is the anticipated release date? I can't wait!!! — Jack S.



Ausiello: It's coming out in early September, and I predict it'll be the biggest TV DVD of the year. Lost cocreator Damon Lindelof tells me that they have an "amazing amount" of extras planned, including "awesome commentaries," deleted scenes between Locke and Hurley, Sawyer and Charlie and Locke and young Walt; footage of the Boeing 747 being cut up in the Mojave Desert and transported via barge to Hawaii; and a look at what went into making the original polar bear sequence. But here's the best part: Lindelof says he and J.J. Abrams are considering making an original mini-movie that "answers one of the questions we've been asked very frequently about the show but have made no attempt to answer so far. It has something to do with why the plane may have crashed." Like me, the exec thinks "the DVD is gonna sell really well with or without [the bonus material], but I wanna be sure the fans are rewarded for their $39.95 or whatever Disney is charging them for a show they've already seen." Only $39.95?!?!?! I'll take two!



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Re: Lost and X-files

Postby maudmac » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:44 pm

Good news about the DVD. I'd been wondering.



Tonight's ep was pretty boring, I thought. Seemed filler-ish. OMG, Charlie was a junkie?!? He screwed up? Who knew? Why didn't anyone tell me! :rolleyes



I don't care much for Claire, but I was surprised to see that she is still pregnant.



Dr. Hero there needs to die. I am really hoping he will be gone by the end of the season. I'm so sick of his bullshit.


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Re: Lost and X-files

Postby Culzean » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:10 am

I thought it was an OK episode, but not one of the better ones.



I had started out neutral on Charlie, but he's starting to grate on me. I know he was supposed to be coming from a place of caring, but his behavior toward Claire was downright condescending. Keeping secrets from her (that related to her own safety)...trying to make decisions for her...not good. And then shooting Ethan because it was his duty, and his alone, to protect Claire. So what if he may have endangered Claire and everyone else by not allowing Ethan to be questioned?



I was also annoyed that Jack was able to beat up Ethan. I hate it when programs are inconsistent. They've already established that Jack's a healer, not a fighter, so stick with that. It was reminiscent of when they had the lifeguard, of all people, drown so Jack could save him. That kind of inconsistency makes it difficult to suspend disbelief and just enjoy a program.



I was relieved to see everyone finally sharpening some sticks and posting guards. About damn time!



Of course, I was really hoping to see Kate show off her shootin' skills again. That would have been fun. Especially after Jacks comment about only allowing those who were experienced with guns to back up Claire.



Unfortunately, the trailer for next weeks show wasn't very intriguing. Hopefully, there will be an interesting second story happening along with the love triangle. I mean, how many times can I yell at Kate "If you can't pick Sun or Claire, pick Sayid!"

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Re: Lost and X-files

Postby Gatito Grande » Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:52 pm

sam: I made those comments about that other (my favorite) show, generically, not realizing I was responding to you (w/ our history of agreed disagreement there). My bad! :blush



GG Maybe I should have also said that I didn't HATE the end of The X-files to the extent that many others did? Disappointment, but not hate. (Unlike . . . well: the one we ALL hate! :miff ) Out



This is sort of a generic comment (um, question), too, but just how responsible can any TV "auteur" be, over the course of a multi-year series? I'm thinking of perhaps the most thorough: J. Michael (unspellable! ;) ) Stryczinski, of Babylon 5. Even when you've got it all laid out, there STILL are unforeseen complications that can arise (cast member walks, for example).



At this point in time, I simply choose to hope for the best about Lost. If it "doesn't turn out right" . . . eh: it's not my fault.

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Re: Lost and X-files

Postby xita » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:59 pm

Yeah, annoying episode really. I am so not a charlie fan. Really all there is to say, I need more kate!!

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Lost 2/9

Postby Gatito Grande » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:59 pm

In defense of Charlie, Locke (to whatever purpose) had just made a stink about not telling everyone (including Claire) about the threat. Locke can be pretty persuasive, and I think that was on Charlie's mind when he decided to withhold the truth from Claire (not that I think this was the right thing to do).



I, too, was surprised to see Claire still preggers (thought the drama of a Missing Evil Baby might have been the way they went!). Couldn't they have come up w/ something better than hysterical amnesia? (I mean, at least Sayid recognized how implausible this was---at one point, I was thinking maybe Claire really had turned)



Let me get this straight: Jack is looking for another trigger-finger, so instead of turning to Kate (whom he has every reason to believe knows her way around a gun), he turns to the Oh-So-Trustworthy Sawyer??? :wtf Jack's sexism alone is plenty of reason to see him strung up by his balls (IF one could find them! :rolleyes )



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Re: Lost 2/9

Postby urnofosiris » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:30 pm

I was not annoyed by Charlie himself so much as the background story, that was just a waste of time. It was boring and added not one single thing to the story. I think he was right in that Ethan would never have talked, no matter how many nails they would have pulled.



As always my big ever growing disgust and hatred was inspired by Jack first and foremost. What an absolute arrogant piece of shit and yet I still feel the writers mean to portray him as the noble hero and that they really mean it.

Unlike with Sawyer (who scored some points with me by giving Kate that gun), there is absolutely nothing they can have Jack say or do that will ever make me think even remotely well of him. He bitches and mouths off against Locke because he is pissy that Locke cleverly pointed out the stupidity of his plan to have everyone curl up in a cave for easy murder, and then ´Jacky O what and Ass he is´ makes an unilateral dictatorial decision not to hand out those guns because he does not want to put them into "untrained" hands. Untrained hands as in Locke´s the uber survivalist? Sayid´s the soldier? Kate´s the sharp shooter? If that is his logic then why the hell was Jack carrying a gun in the end?



Having him beat up Ethan was utterly ridiculous. Ethan was clearly a walking killing machine who had already kicked his sorry ass, but now Jack is the conquering hero. Of course we had to be shown that Jack could beat him and that the aforementioned asskicking was just an unfortunate freak of nature. As far as I am concerned, by not handing out those guns right away, Jack is as guilty of red shirting that Steve or whatever his name was as the guy who broke all his bones.



Ah, I do so love to rant. I might miss Jack when he finally dies. I am glad the show is back, I think this episode was a bit crappy, but it had a few interesting moments. Anyone else feel like Sun´s husband understands English just as well as she does? Are they in contact with the others?

Edited by: DrG at: 2/11/05 11:33 am
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Re: Lost 2/9

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:16 pm

Yeah, G, I think Jin understands English, too (I think Sun is starting to suspect. Does he suspect her, too?)



I forgot to mention this earlier: inasmuch as the island always seems "a little weird" (understatement!), did anyone else feel thrown by Boone's squatting night-time shut-eye, then waking widely to complete sunlight? Wha??? (As we went into commercial, I thought maybe Boone was dreaming/tripping again)



GG Agreed, the Charlie backstory was boring. Just another excuse to play "You All Everybody" again? ABC's developing an obsession over this song! :crazy Out

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Re: Lost 2/9

Postby Culzean » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:25 pm



Yes, it seems Boone slept though his whole shift. I guess Sayid was right when he seemed so unenthusiastic about Boone volunteering for a shift. I think if Locke hadn't chimed in, Sayid may have said "Thanks, but we're covered."

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Re: Lost 2/9

Postby urnofosiris » Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:22 am

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Yeah, G, I think Jin understands English, too (I think Sun is starting to suspect. Does he suspect her, too?)




Somehow I do not think he knows for sure, but I am sure he suspects it too. On second though I am actually sure he speaks English too. I think Charlie´s (arrogant ass) ´you have no clue about what is going on, oh what bliss it must be´ speech translates into ´you know far more of what is going on than any of us´. Sun said something about the others not minding and Jin replied that they punished him or something. I assume she was talking about others as in *the* others, not the other plane crashees.



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Lost 2/16

Postby Culzean » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:30 pm

A non-Jack centric episode. Something to celebrate right off the top!



Last week's trailer made this episode look like it might be a lover's triangle melodrama, but I was pleasantly surprised. I'm still waiting for a spotlight on Hurley or Shannon, but I like Sawyer, so I enjoyed this one.



As Kate pointed out, Sawyer is still lugging around 20 year old baggage, but that's some baggage. I don't know how someone would get over something like that. It made his actions later in the episode seem understandable. I mean, he really should have checked out the information he was given and made sure it was accurate before killing the guy, but I can understand him being overcome with emotion and not thinking clearly. It's not like he's a real calm, methodical kind of guy to begin with.



Those voices in the woods are weird. I never could make out what they were saying to Sayid.



I liked the game of "I Never." I liked how they moved from "I never kissed a man" to "I've never killed a man." I thought both Sawyer and Kate were very effective in that scene.



I'm glad they had Charlie burying Ethan. I think it's good that they're dealing with the consequences of his behavior.



I was a little surprised to see a beard on Hurley all of a sudden. Surely Locke and Jin aren't the only ones who packed razors?



Per the trailer, it looks like we're going to hear more about "the others" next week. Looking forward to it.

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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby maudmac » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:19 pm

Yes, yes, yay for any non-Jack-centric episodes. My dislike for him grows every time I see him.



I noticed many references to killing. Sawyer and Kate playing "I Never" (which I know as "Never Have I Ever"), Charlie's killing of Ethan, and his conversation with Sayid, who has also killed a man (probably many men). I'd wager that Locke has killed before. And Jack sure does know his way around firearms really well, so maybe him, too? Jin was doing something violent for Sun's father, so it's not far-fetched to imagine he might've killed someone as well. It made me wonder who out there hasn't killed someone. Seems like there's a really high percentage of killers amongst that group of (supposedly) random people. I don't personally know a single person who's killed anyone, even accidentally.



Which reminds me...who has Kate killed? Either I've forgotten or it hasn't been shown yet. She certainly shot up a lot of guys at that bank, but she didn't kill them, did she? And she didn't kill the US marshal, did she?



The whispering is deeply freaky. I love it!



I think Locke is the character that most intrigues me. I keep feeling like he's functioning as some kind of guide for the rest of them.



I think Sawyer and Sayid would make a beautiful couple. I know I'm not alone.



I noticed Hurley's beard, too, and I noticed it seemed to go poof in the very next scene he was in. There seem to be some continuity issues in their grooming, but it's certainly understandable.



And, yep, next week looks gooooood. I can't wait.


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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby Culzean » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:40 pm

No, Kate didn't kill the guys in the bank. She managed to wound three guys in the time it took me to blink.



Sawyer tried to kill the Marshall, but apparently Jack had to finish him off.



Kate tearfully admitted to killing the man she loved while Jack was questioning her about her toy plane. They have yet to reveal who that man was.



So, we can add Jack to our list of killers.



Those stats do seem a bit high, now that you mention it.





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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby maudmac » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:27 pm

God. What is wrong with me?!? I can't believe I forgot Kate's big "the man I loved...the man I killed" thing, especially because I speculated at the time about her relationship with said man. :rolleyes I'm going to have to start keeping notes.



And I remember now about Jack killing the marshal. D'oh!



Thank you! Thank you for functioning as my memory. Tis much appreciated.



So, definitely, we have Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, and Charlie. That's a lot, yep.


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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby Culzean » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:45 am



You're welcome!



Yes, I do have a pretty good memory for TV shows. If only I could remember what I did yesterday, or what I need to do tomorrow....

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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby urnofosiris » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:32 am

I liked the episode. I understand his deadly hatred, but I do have trouble understanding why Sawyer blew that guy away without asking questions first. Maybe he did it because he ´chickened out´ earlier and was afraid he would not be able to if he let him talk some more. Am I being naieve in hoping that he did not actually kill the guy? We did not see him die did we, but then who else would he have killed except that marshal who was already dying for sure when he shot him and who Jack had to actually finish off because he seems to have trouble hitting the heart. How did he get from being arrested for whatever to being on the plane? Still lotsa questions there, but they probably won´t get answered because we need to see more of Jack and his daddy issues. Oh look at me, still ranting about Jack when he was hardly in the episode.



There certainly are a lot of people who have killed, but I think the list ends with the names mentioned already. I can´t imagine Michael, Sun, Claire, Boone, Blondie and the other lesser visible characters to have killed anyone. I am not even sure Locke has. In any case, there is something weird going with everyone so far, though we have not had Hurley´s back story, I am sure there is more there than him being the jolly fat guy. I am looking forward to learning more about him.

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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby xita » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:54 pm

I love Sawyer, I don't care. He's my man of choice in this show. And I love that he chose not to lift "our hero's" chip by telling him daddy loved him and was proud. FUCK you Jack. God, I swear, I don't like him. And that's pretty much all I have to comment on this episode. Other than, oh I don't think Locke has killed anyone. Why would we have? What I saw of him was someone who wanted to be a survivalist and never had any chance to be anything more than a "loser." All his knowledge is talk and I don't think people in that island would trust his judgement as much if they knew that. Still, I think he's best prepared to handle the island. Also, yeah, there's more to Sawyer and I hope we find out sooner than later and joy, I don't think next week is a Jack episode :)

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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:32 am

According to TVtome the next three epsiodes will be Jin, Hurley and Locke centric. The one after those will be Jack centric ep number three. The season finale will be a Sayid centric episode.



So Jack gets three, Jin, Locke, Charlie, Sayid and Sawyer will have gotten two episodes. Boone, Michael/son/dog, Hurley, Shannon, Sun, Claire and Kate will have only gotten one.



I´d argue that Kate is a lead character, along with Jack (hacks), Sawyer, Sayid, Charlie (probably because he used to be a hobbit once) and Locke. The others are secondary characters so far, though their background stories are far more interesting than oh let´s say Jack´s or Charlie´s.



So of the leads Kate only got one episode really centering around her, only one, against a completely unnecessary two for Charlie and three for Jack. Who know´s maybe by some weird chance the third Jack ep will actually be interesting, but the second added nothing to the story or his character. He has daddy issues and daddy died, we knew that after the first. The second Charlie one did not add anything at all either. He was a junkie and screwed up, boo and hoo.



I wish they´d show a little less me strong man me leader me hunter me protector, you woman you get no gun and a little more Kate, Claire, Sun and even Shannon taking care of themselves and others just fine.



This tidbit was mentioned in the episode summary of the pilot:



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Series creator J.J Abrams offered the lead role of Jack Sheperd to actor Michael Keaton first when the character Jack was originally supposed to appear in only one episode as the character was supposed to die. But when J.J decided to keep the character alive Michael Keaton rejected the role and actor Matthew Fox went for it.




In the words of the great Nancy Kerrigan: WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Edited by: DrG at: 2/20/05 2:32 am
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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby xita » Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:16 pm

Kate had 2. I am pretty sure. Kate had the first one where we find out she was the prisoner, it may have been the second episode after the pilot. She also got the other one where we found out all about the bank heist.



Oh and the reason Jack is around is because Evangeline didn't want to carry the whole show since it was her first role of any kind.

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Edited by: xita  at: 2/20/05 6:17 pm
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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:35 pm

True, the episode after the pilot revealed she was a prisoner, but I did not remember it properly as a Kate centric because so much else was happening, at least that is how I remember it, but it had pre crash flash backs so it counts as a Kate centric episode. Well good, that makes two then, at least her second episode added more to her mystery, whereas Charlie´s and Jack´s told us nothing we did not already know or could have figured out without devoting a whole episode to them.



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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby xita » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:24 pm

I loved today's lost. I love it when they do other characters and not the same ole tired ones. I like sayid and shannon. I think Shannon was good intentions towards him. I am all about new beginnings on the island. I am not about staying there forever though, that's another copout. I am sorry but locke and little boy are wrong for their selfish escapist movitations.



Sun, I love her a lot. I just love her and I am happy that at the end she wasn't devastated by the rejection but freed by it. I want her to be happy. I am glad people can now communicate with her cause that means more of her :) Her accent sounds better now. I wonder how much of an accent the actress has if any. I wonder if she's gotten better just by working on this show. Or, maybe it's just a character thing.



Jin, now at first I thought he has my sympathies. Then he turned down Sun and I thought, assHOLE! Then I thought some more about his character. I think he did the right thing. He did it for himself. He let Sun be his whole motivation for living. He dropped all of his convictions just to be with her. He was ashamed of his father. BTW, his background now explains his fishing prowess. Anyway, I think he's trying to just start again for himself. Or maybe he's just an ass.



Ooh and Hurley was on the tv, did you see? Of course tv guide I think spoiled me on the reason. Still neat to see.

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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby Culzean » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:34 am

Thank you Xita! I totally did not get why Jin walked away from Sun at the end. Sun asked if they could start over and go back to the beginning. And Jin does need to go back to the beginning. He just needs to go further back in order to find himself again.



Which also explains why he wants to help Michael rebuild the boat. Part of letting go of the jerk he became. I also think he was responding to Hurley's earlier comment about Jin playing the role of outsider.



Since Sun spoke to him in English, he clearly understands some English as well. I, too, will enjoy seeing these two get more integrated into the cast.



I always enjoy the scenes between Kate and Sun. Too bad they won't have Sun get together with Kate instead of Michael.



I know it wasn't Walt's intention, but he may have saved his own life by burning down that boat. They would have likely died of starvation or dehydration before getting rescued.



I must have missed the TV Guide spoiler about Hurley, because I was quite surprised to see him on that TV. It looks like we may get more Hurley next week. Finally.

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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby urnofosiris » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:51 pm

I noticed Hurley on the TV too. I hope that it gets explained why he was on Korean TV when he gets his backstory episode. I think Walt did save his life by burning that raft. It would be almost suicidal setting out without a clue as to where they are. If Michael really wanted to save his son, at the very least he would have to leave him behind and try to get back to him if he survived himself. Maybe a grown man would survive if he is very very lucky, but a boy in tropical waters would dehydrate pretty quickly, but that was not his motivation. I do not think it was ok for him to burn the thing and then stand by without at least yelling at his father to try and him stop from beating up Jin. He could have done that without confessing that he burned the thing himself.



Michael did nothing to endear himself to me, I just do not like him. If he and Sun get together I will be seriously displeased. I think he treated her like crap, hissing and booing because she hurt his manly pride by slapping him in the face. I guess he and Jin are equal now, seeing as each has beaten up the other. At least they kissed and made up in the end, which I am happy about. I did not like their animosity.



I was happily surprised that Jin had not killed that man. It was clearly deliberatly implied that he had during their first flash back episode, but he did not and there was nothing now to suggest that he ever killed anyone. I do think Sun must believe that he has killed people and she must know her father is not a saint. Not sure why Jin is unable to tell her truth now, maybe in time. Maybe she and Jin will get a new start, but each probably has some soul searching and healing to do.



The scene between Kate and Sun was sweet and I also liked those between Shannon and Sayid. I thought Sayid was a bit too easily influenced by Boone´s venomous remarks, that nasty fuck, but I am glad Shannon saw through and did not let it ruin their chances. Well, Locke´s words helped I think. He is a weird guy, he knows just what people are thinking and says what they need to hear. I think that is why he told Walt he likes the island too. I think he wanted to let him know that he was not the only one who felt that way and by letting him know he knew what he did he prevented that little secret to eat away at Walt. I´m still not excusing Walt, but Locke must know it would be folly to sail away on that raft.



Anyway I am happy that Shannon is no longer just lying there getting a tan. I already liked her and I like Sayid. I hope their happiness lasts a while. I loved the ending with Sun finally stepping into the Ocean and the song to accompany the happy feel good scenes tunring into Hurley listening to his CD. That amused me.

Edited by: DrG at: 2/24/05 4:58 pm
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Lost 3/2

Postby Culzean » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:58 am

Hur-ley! Hur-ley! Hur-ley!



Finally, an episode devoted to Hurley!



As with some of the other back stories, this one left a lot of room for further exploration. Like, why had Hurley spent time in a high security mental institution? And why is he called Hurley?



I loved the whole tragicomic back-story. Especially when Hurley was speaking to his accountant, who assured him there was no such thing as a curse, and then the man falls outside the window behind him.



I was thrilled to see "the French chick" back, and I enjoyed their exchange. Hurley approaching the other three guys, handing them a battery, and telling Sayid that Roussou "says Hey" was priceless.



OK, so:



* Hurley owns the box company that Locke worked at.

* Sawyer met Jacks daddy.

* Sawyer and Boone were at the police station at the same time.

* Jin saw Hurley on TV (assuming he was paying any attention).



They're drawing some very direct, and indirect, connections between the characters. I imagine we'll see more of that, though where that will lead I'm not sure.



And I'm not even going to speculate about the numbers. I think, like Kate's toy plane, that's going to remain a mystery for quite awhile.



And next week's a repeat. Damn!







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Re: Lost 2/16

Postby xita » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:27 pm

I loved this episode. I love sayid and shannon together. I love less jack and charlie. Hurley is cool, but I feel really bad for him, because I understand the whole jovial front hiding some real pain. It really bugged me that charlie didn't believe him there at the end.



Ooh and I could handle some Sun/Kate... oh yeah.



I love the "French chick." And now what I thought was the tragedy of those "out there" making her mates sick now is all about the cursed numbers.

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Lost and deliriosly happy

Postby Thespia » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:40 am

Wow! 8 pages about Lost, the show that's been arousing my curiosity for some time now. But I must refrain from reading most of it, because we are going to start watching it this Monday, here, in Brazil.



I don't want to be spoiled. Much. Well, maybe just some random peeks, here and there... :whistle



I'm off to the GG thread. Watching too much TV these days.

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Lost 3/2

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:17 pm

Hurley owns Locke's box company! I missed that.



The week before, I thought I saw Hurley on the Korean TV, but wasn't sure (haven't checked out this thread in awhile, w/ all you geniuses ;) ). Would Korean TV show an American lottery winner, no matter how large? (Unless there was an U.S. Armed Forces channel there: then, maybe)



I, too, am wondering how Hugo became "Hurley": his mental institution nick, maybe? (If he'd had mental problems in the past, you could see how much more on edge he'd be, what w/ the "Numbers aren't cursed: you're crazy!" accusation.) Besides being . . . awed by Hurley's bouncing mantits, was anyone else more than a little frightened for Jorge Garcia's health, when seeing him run? I mean, more frightened than usual? :eek



Do we have any Aussie Kittens here? (Has Lost started showing Down Under yet) It's really interesting, in that Australia appears in as many flashbacks as anywhere else (inc. the States).



Great to see Mira Furlan again. Please, make her a castmember next year! (I really enjoyed how she and Jorge played off each other)



Is Sayid finding "Nadia's" picture again, going to interrupt this thing he's gettin' goin' w/ Shannon?



So, last but not least, what do the numbers mean? Is that an alien spacecraft (and/or source of the original radio tranmission broadcasting them) on which they are engraved? If not, what is it? (CIA mindprobe? Mad scientist's toy?)



GG So, when is Claire gonna have her baby? Maybe that will be the season finale? Love this show! :applause Out

Gatito Grande
 


Re: Lost 3/2

Postby urnofosiris » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:00 pm

Thespia, I think staying unspoiled for this show is something I can recommend, but do join in once you´ve seen the first episodes. Tonight the first one aired here on TV and it is fun to rewatch it, I can pay attention to details I may have missed before and be uberly annoyed by Jack yet again.



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I loved the whole tragicomic back-story. Especially when Hurley was speaking to his accountant, who assured him there was no such thing as a curse, and then the man falls outside the window behind him.




Oh yes, I know it was a bad thing, but it cracked me up. The house in the middle of nowhere did as well for some reason. Of all the back stories this is one of my favorites and one that adds a huge pile of questions to the mystery.



I notice that whenever Kate and Sun have a scene the violins start playing so to speak. Not sure there were violins, but the music sure gets this romantic note to it every time. Yes I know, not going to happen, but I like their relationship, all the manly men get to bond and we see plenty plenty plenty of them, so please show the nice ladies as well. Good call about the box company btw, I totally missed that one. What a drag that next week is a repeat.





Edited by: DrG at: 3/4/05 3:03 pm
urnofosiris
 


Lost 3/30

Postby Gatito Grande » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:47 am

Another kick-ass episode, but I gotta ask: is Swoosie Kurtz even older than Terry O'Quinn? (That she could play his mother---even if they've stuck hair on him, to make him appear younger, i.e. in the past---really strains credulity) Oh well, I love Locke-focussed episodes: great twist in the back-story.



Sometimes this show does really well w/ lil' "Twin Peaks"-type incidents: Locke's Dream was one of those.



Locke and Boone sure have been showing initiative (the way they've dug out the . . .spaceship, or whatever it is), but how have they kept their doings secret from everybody else?



Jack was almost tolerable this week---but so like him, to keep Sawyer twisting (fessin' stuff), even AFTER he'd diagnosed his far-sightedness (did anyone else thing that Sayid's optician skills were a bit strange? Like he couldn't have just pried out the lenses that were correct for Sawyer, and put them into a single set of frames? Whatever---it worked)



Is that like, Kate's third top now? Or fourth? ;) (Is she like the "switchboard" person of this group? All the stories seem to pass through her)



I liked Michael this week, too: "I think I've learned Korean for 'faster' and 'idiot.'" :lol



Questions, questions: who did Boone manage to raise on radio (and could you believe that radio would actually work?)? Did they get the message that there were survivors of Oceanic Flight 815, and will they act on that info? If the "Island" is still talking to Locke, what did the light in the hatch mean?



GG Nigerian heroin-runners, in the South Pacific? What's that about? :confused Out



Can't wait for next week's ep! :grin

Gatito Grande
 

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