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Re: ......mkaay

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:53 pm

My favorite lineup was Briscoe, Curtis and Lt. Van Buren on the Law side and McCoy, Jamie Ross and Adam Schiff on the Order side. Incidentally, that was the first lineup in the show's history to stay intact for two full seasons. :shy

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Re: ......mkaay

Postby Gatito Grande » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:38 pm

Well, Dave, it all depends on your perspective of "actual justice" doesn't it?



I didn't watch L&O in its earliest years: I had no interest in it. Cheer on cops and persecutors? My gut instincts are ALWAYS for the defense! (there's no violence or injustice more heinous that perpetrated behind a badge or gavel)



But for a while, in the mid-to-late 90s, I stumbled upon L&O in the early Jack McCoy years (first w/ Jill Hennesy, then w/ Carey Lowell as The Underlings). I managed to pretend that "Crusading for Issues" (as opposed to locking up poor people) was what "The Law" was about. But it was always a fairly shallow illusion.



GG And then what's-her-face (whom many find hot, but I really didn't: Abby somebody?) came in, w/ her "Hang 'em high!" 'tude, and I threw in the towel on L&O. GG is back to cheering on the defense: throw open the prisons, and Eat the Rich! Out



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Re: ......mkaay

Postby xita » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:56 pm

Oh I love Abby, then again I love Angie Harmon. That was the last I tuned in for though. I've been watching SVU since and that's the only one I watch.

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L&O:**SIGH**....Yet another murderous lesbian

Postby TyRex316 » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:08 pm

L&O....I think I'm going to have to give this show up. Once I had an inkling of where this ep was going, I stopped watching. I mean the whole time I'm thinking, 'Oh, Com'on, NOT another one!!!' but yep.

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Re: L&O:**SIGH**....Yet another murderous lesbian

Postby xita » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Seriously, at this point, one has to say that the overall feel of law and order is homophobic.

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Law & Order: SVU

Postby Repost Moderator » Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:46 am

Originally posted by Whinse




Last night, the previews for next week's SVU was on and I squealed to find out the Stephanie March is coming back! Yay! So yes, I am a ... bit obsessive. But I'm still all excited about it. Anyone else feeling this GLEE?!

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Re: Law & Order: SVU

Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:17 pm

Also in last night's episode, one of the high school girls Olivia was interviewing said she was "more into girls." A small thing, yes, but given the recent homophobic streak the original L&O has been showing, it was nice to hear. At least that girl didn't turn out to be evil.

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Re: Law & Order: SVU

Postby BytrSuite » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:17 pm

The ep where Stephanie March came back kicked ass. Alex won Casey's case for her from the damn witness stand. Casey is possibly the worst lawyer ever. Alex rocks!



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Re: Law & Order: SVU

Postby mollyig » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:56 am

I don't watch L&O, but when I read about how they wrote out Rohm's character I was quite cross. Often SVU elicits that reaction in me too with their propensity for cliched storylines. Mariska Hargitay is probably the only reason I watch it, and even then I wish they'd give her a proper storyline / life. All the stuff we know about Eliot's family compared to the rest of the group. They probably consider him to be the hero (and I know Chris Meloni gets first billing in the credits), but the inequality of it grates. To be honest, I've stopped making a conscious decision to watch it nowadays. If it happens to be on when we're channel hopping I'll probably leave it on, but that's it.


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Alex on SVU...vs. Casey?

Postby screeminguitar » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:41 pm

I agree!!! Alex rocked....she is soooo damn sexy and smart she keeps getting hotter--is that possible?



Best lawyer I have EVER seen on the boob tube. (I like saying boob tube..hehehe)



Casey is "OK" she tries to act tough and straight but it comes out dorky. I think she is cute when she smiles--maybe she should try to be funny, sorry she is no Alex ..but then again..it's not fair to compare now is it?



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Re: Alex on SVU...vs. Casey?

Postby xita » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:45 pm

CASEY!!! ROCKS!! :D

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Re: Alex on SVU...vs. Casey?

Postby Warduke » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:55 pm

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CASEY!!! ROCKS!! :D




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Re: Alex on SVU...vs. Casey?

Postby emma peel » Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:45 pm

Ummm, sorry but I respectfully disagree. I think Casey-the-Lurcher truly SUCKS!!!!

I miss Alex. Stephanie March is one very hot lady. :thud :drool

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Re: Law & Order

Postby Tarababy77 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:24 am

I need help! I can't get enough Law & Order!!! =)
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Re: Law & Order

Postby hivemind » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:02 pm

Oh, I finally find a topic where I can discuss one of my most loved obsessions. I'm such a sucker for these cops/court shows, but Law & Order really got me hooked. All of the spin-offs are great, but my favorite is really SVU.

I've seen some people commenting on it here, and I was sad to find some Casey bashers among them. It's really sad that people keep comparing Casey with Alex 'Our Lady of Law' Cabot. They're not the same people, despite Mr. Wolf's insistence on making Casey's hair blonde (which, by the way, SO needs to go back to the pretty red it was before). They have different personalities, different prosecuting styles, different views. Well, of course Casey is not Alex! Our Detectives figured that out early on, but by constantly comparing them you don't give Casey a chance to prove herself. She will always be 'Not Alex'. That's what really piss me off, most don't even bother to find out who is Casey Novak. That didn't happen when Abbie Carmichael left and Alex took her place, did it? How is that fair?

I personally think she's a fascinating character and a wonderful prosecutor - yes, she is, Alex fucked up a lot too, but no one bashed her because of it. Didn't anyone watch 5th Season episode Mean? I cheered like crazy when Casey dressed down that little bitch on the stand. I felt vindicated, as if all those High School divas got their asses kicked. A fifteen minutes jury, even Elliot and Olivia praised that one!

I'll be the first to admit that at the beginning she was brash and cocky and naive to the extreme, but that's only because she was not used to the kind of cases she had to prosecute for SVU. Come on, SVU is one hell of a jump from Felonies and White Collar. Even EADA Tracey Kibre struggled with SVU's cases and no one can deny she's one ass kick attorney. So she stumbled a lot at first. But then Casey grew into her position, she cared for the victims and she tried her damnest to get justice for them. Only in her second episode on the series, she was already putting her neck on the line for someone she didn't even know, and who clearly didn't like her. How can you bash that?

I remember the 7th Season episode Gone, when Jason Kings needed a shoulder, she was there for him, comforting him. And when he disappeared and later was found that, Casey felt responsible and so guilty for not helping him like she promised. Now doesn't that show how incredibly caring she is? What about on Poison (Season 5), you can't say you didn't like seeing that misogynistic bastard Judge Taft get his ass handed to him. I think it's admirable that she disregarded what could happen to her career and wanted justice. That's selflessness, people, even if a little too idealistic, as we saw on Goliath.

Another point people insist on bashing Casey for is her rather... interesting choice of clothing. So she likes to wear lime green and purple, what the hell is the freakin' problem? We Kittens know better than most that a quirky wardrobe shows personality! :grin That's why she's been dubbed the Limer Goddess, and I, along with many others that revere the wonderful person that is Casey Novak (and her brilliant actress, of course, Diane Neal), are called the Limers. Limer Pride now and forever! :lol

As you can see, I am one huge Casey fan. What's not to like? She's funny, environmentally conscious, sarcastic, caring, brilliant, utterly cute with that smile of hers and a redhead to boot! Oh, yeah, I block the whole ‘bottle blonde now’ thing from my mind. Bash all you like, Casey is the Limer Goddess and we'll continue our crusade to convert as many of the Great Unwashed as we can. :wink Woot! :bounce

Now that I've finished my ode to Casey, I feel I have to comment on the rest of the characters too, as to be fair. :lol

Elliot: Nice family guy while it lasted, way too hung up on the Job for my tastes. Gets angry too easily, is too impulsive. Still, he has his moments and is a good Detective and character. I think he's infuriating most of the time, though.

Olivia: Ah, Our Leading Lady. I like her. I really, really like her. She's one though lady, with the life she leads, with everything she sees, and she still manages to be so caring. I love how she connects with the victims, even when they don't look like they're the victims (Season 5 Escape comes to mind, that was an incredible episode). Her first seasons on the show were really enjoyable, she was all kicking asses and taking names, but later on she became... for the lack of a better term, a teary femme. Nothing against that but... Kind of threw my image of Olivia. Well, I still love her anyway.

Munch: Can I just say how much I love this guy? He's just so... cool! I love his off the wall conspiracy theories, his dry sense of humor, his inherently goodness. Even when he was shot in the ass, he was still his Munchkin self.

Fin: I like him well enough, but I don't know enough about him to really form an opinion. He has a good partnership with Munch, and I like his street smarts. That's about it.

Cragen: The man with the plan. He's like Giles, the voice of reason. He's not in the spotlight enough, IMHO.

Huang: He's kind of pedantic, but an essential part of the team. It's freaky how he can get into the perp's head, uncanny and certainly very useful.

Warner: I like her. We don't know a lot about her, but for some reason I find myself grinning whenever she does an autopsy or testifies on court. I think that, if well developed, she could become a really delightful character.

Alex: Now, I'm sure you're all expecting a lot of bashing here. Wrong. I like Alex very much and I was sad to see her go in such a tragic way. At first I didn't like her, because she came off as an arrogant, cold, rich little bitch with big political aspirations. But then... She just sort of grew on me, ya know? A brilliant attorney, smart, beautiful and steadfast. I just loved that time when she threatened to knock the defense attorney's teeth down his throat. Like Cragen, I would pay real money to see that. She has some really good tirades, and I like how determined she is when she decides to do something. And she's compassionate too, even though she mostly tries to keep her distance. Her triumphal return on Ghost was at once exciting and angst ridden. One thing I never understood, is how she was made Bureau Chief even after three years without practicing law. I mean, she's good, but that good? I dunno.

Well, I think that's it for now. I hope no one fell asleep while reading this little monologue. If anyone bothers, that is. What can I say? I really love SVU. :grin

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Re: Law & Order

Postby dorksrcool » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:13 pm

I have a newfound obsession with SVU after watching some reruns on USA. I only recently started watching them but I'm hooked. Benson is sooooo hot! Especially in the seasons with her short hair. OMG! How did someone that dykey get to appear on television every week? No wonder they femmed her up for later seasons. She's still hot though. She kicks ass! I like the way she holds a gun and I like her clothes and that fancy watch she wears.

I actually like Casey more than Alex. I don't know if that's blasphemous, but I just like her character more.

Oh yeah, and the fan fiction for this show is freakin' awesome.
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Re: Law & Order

Postby hivemind » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:17 pm

Yes, I also like Olivia better with shorter hair. Why oh why did they femme her? :sob SVU has a lot of subtext, but I won't get into the matter of shippers, that tends to get a little bloody as I am a devout C/O fan (just look at my avatar). :sh

And of course it's not blasphemous to prefer Casey, she subpoenad Donald Freakin' Rumsfeld, for God's sake! That's got to earn her some fans.
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Re: Law & Order

Postby BBOvenGuy » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:15 pm

So did anybody see tonight's episode of Criminal Intent? I didn't, because I was watching Veronica Mars, but I've got it on tape.

Michelle Trachtenberg was one of the guest stars, doing a rendition of YouTube's "LonelyGirl" phenomenon - only guess what she called herself? "Weeping Willow!!! :lol :lol :lol
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Re: Law & Order

Postby HalfCamel » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:39 pm

Can anyone tell me what happened in this last season of SVU with Olivia and Elliot? Why aren't they partner's anymore? Who's that lady with the curly hair, and why were her and Elliot making out? Does it have anything to do with Mariska Hargitay getting pregenant? Is she going to come back?

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Re: Law & Order

Postby werewolf123 » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:46 pm

I don't know the meta-text as to whether Hargitay is pg or not or for sure if she is coming back full time.I suspect she will be back full time.

Olivia was tapped by homeland security to work undercover to bust a group of Eco-terrorist by the shows resident female F.B.I. agent. I believe that arc is over.

Elliot temp. partner is recovering from the recent death of her husband, who was on the job and was killed by an informant. She(whose character name i cannot recall) is more gung-ho then Elliot. Elliot is the safe and sane partner with the woman going over the top with the suspects they run
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Re: Law & Order

Postby BBOvenGuy » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:50 am

Mariska Hargitay was pregnant. She has now had her baby and is coming back from her maternity leave.
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Re: Law & Order

Postby the hero factor » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:00 pm

It's about darned time! SVU season three is coming to DVD, January 30, 2007. It feels like I've been waiting forever for these. I have s1 and 2, and season five is out on DVD, but I kinda wanted to wait to get s3 and 4 before buying it. One step closer. Let's hope we don't have to wait so long for s4.

And s3 is great, maybe even my favorite. Benson at her perp-slamming, swaggering, Butchy McFabulous best. I'm more of an Alexgirl, but sometimes, especially in season three, Olivia is just so pretty it hurts.

And Alex! So, so, so, sooooo hot. Especially desperate, disheveled, Guilt-ridden!Alex. My favorite!

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Re: Law & Order

Postby BBOvenGuy » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:06 pm

NBC has posted all of Michelle Trachtenberg's video blog entries that were shot for the Criminal Intent episode here:

http://www.freewillow17.com/

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Re: Law & Order

Postby songbird » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:50 pm

There should be a topic just for L&O: SVU, it's by far the best L&O spinoff.

I just watched the newest SVU episode here, Uncle. Munch's uncle is a bloody lunatic and Dani is more obsessed than UnStabler, if that's possible! Geez! This episode had no point whatsoever. And the clichés! We even had Warner with her infamous Deus Ex Machina Gadgets of Doom.

Still, Casey is absolutely lovely, even if she lost today. :heart Still blonder than blonde, but until someone beats some sense into the hair gal, that can't be helped.

And no Oliska, thank God for that. I wonder what kind of shit will happen to Dani for her to come back? Will she die, kill herself or, more likely, kill a perp? *roll eyes* Can't wait for the return of Saint Oliska.
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