The Television and Movie Recommendation/Discussion Thread!

[themagicpixie]

HIP - would that be Superman, who despite being an alien also manages to be the all-American boy and superhero (not to mention white and heterosexual), versus a mentally unstable, psychotic killer with lesbian tendencies? Who kind of seems to be want to be a man, and who gets obsessed with a pretty young thing.



Oh for crying out loud.



I wish they would stop. I wish they would just stop. STOP putting lesbian characters on TV, please, if the only way you can write them is this way. It's better to have none at all.

[SlayerSydney]

I saw Chicago with my mom and grandmother. Mom liked it ok but I think was a little shocked at how sexy the movie was. Hmmm....cell block tango. Yummy.



Gram though really enjoyed it. Except that it was "too loud". Which confuses me because the woman just has to turn her hearing aid down.

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"You have to believe we are magic. Nothin' can stand in our way."---Olivia Newton-John.



The quest for certainty blocks the quest for meaning.---Erich Fromm

Edited by: SlayerSydney at: 1/17/03 7:08:49 am

[Cicca]

Ahhhhhhhh, see? I won't complain about seeing it with my mother. I could've seen it with my grandmother! I'm sure she'd have made disgusted noises all through it. What fun!



But yeah... I'd like to see the Cell Block Tango again when I can... concentrate. Yeah.

invite someone dangerous to tea * look forward to dreams * imagine yourself magic

[stillflygrlop]

I just saw the film Entre Nous and it's pretty good. Although Miou Miou and Isabelle Huppert don't do much physically, it's worth watching for the subtle overtones and sexual tension (well, at least to me).



Oh, and Chicago was great too. I hope no one saw me oogling during the cell block tango...

[Jennpurr]

Hey guys,



Has anybody been watching Roswell since it started showing on Sci Fi?



I'm still trying to figure out why the show was cancelled. Does anybody know?



Jen

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"I felt cheap," Vamp Willow

[xita]

I love Entre Nous, it's a great movie. It's a true story and so I think that makes it more compelling plus they are beautiful women. I'd like to have seen a little more between them after they got together again.

If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead

[concrete]

Of possible interest to Dutch & Belgian kittens: tonight on Belgium 1 at 21:30hrs "Serving in Silence - the Margarethe Cammermeyer Story". Personally, I found this adaptation boring and depressing. Boring, well hard to explain and depressing because it's based upon a true story... And from what I've understood, not much has changed since, which gives it bonus-points in the depression category

'One snap of my fingers and I can raise hemlines so high the whole world's your gynaecologist.'

Patsy Stone in the AbFab episode – “Magazine”

[justastraightdog]

Jen, Roswell was cancelled because it had a bad lead-in. A very bad lead-in. The black hole of all lead-ins, so to say. And like every black hole, when it consumes matter (aka viewers), it emits gamma rays (aka bad vibes), killing all other possible viewers for its network on that night. When it appeared together with Roswell in the UPN galaxy, it was large and powerful, so that the amount of matter it consumed let to a gamma ray burst that killed Roswell. Fortunately it's much smaller nowadays, but it still has sufficient power to kill weak shows like Hunted or - predictable - Abby. Maybe a strong show like Roswell could survive now - but we will never know.



Interestingly enough, this black hole actually has a related white hole - located at The WB, producing new matter for the Gilmore Girls week after week. But the really good news about this black hole is that - without fresh matter - it will eventually evaporate due to effects like Hawkings Radiation. Well, usually this takes some time (actually it takes a long time, like 12,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years), but it's Hollyweird, after all - and Hollyweird's clocks aren't subject to the laws of physics. Therefore it will be gone a little bit faster, most likely this May.



The bad news is this: When the black hole's mass reduces to a figure of below 100 million tons, with its event horizon now smaller than an atomic nucleus, the hole will then be at a temperature in the order of a trillion to 100,000 trillion kelvin. Reasonable speculation suggests that it is now so hot that it will finally explode in a final burst of energy. On the other hand, this raises the old question: if there was nobody left who saw that final burst of energy, did it really happen?

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Though here at journey's end I lie in darkness buried deep, beyond all towers strong and high, beyond all mountains steep,
above all shadows rides the Sun and Stars for ever dwell: I will not say the Day is done, nor bid the Stars farewell.

[concrete]

Ok, a much more enjoyable tv tip is "Heavenly Creatures" which will be shown on BBC2 tomorrow at 23:40hrs UK time and 00.40 European time. I absolutely love this movie! An interesting site can be found here.

This site also has extensive background-info on the real people involved. Chilling and fascinating......

'One snap of my fingers and I can raise hemlines so high the whole world's your gynaecologist.'

Patsy Stone in the AbFab episode – “Magazine”

[famer]

I hesitate to write this but thought I'd come clean.



The women in Entre Nous never actually "get together" in the romantic sense.



After the film, they each eventually get married to men and have children. However, the daughter (who wrote & directed) said something to the press (paraphrased):



It was a different time then. If it had happened now, maybe they would have gotten together and married each other.



She then went on to state that, for the rest of their lives, not one day passed without her mother and her friend seeing each other. They were extremely close and loving.



Having said that, I think Entre Nous is possibly the best lesbian movie I have ever seen. The tension is suffocating and the love quite clearly seen. It's on several "best movie" lists (Gene Siskel put it in the top 10 movies for 1983) as well as "best lesbian movie" lists. I believe it's also Nicole Conn's favourite lesbo film (I saw her list on planetout).

Edited by: famer at: 1/19/03 1:54:08 am

[Jennpurr]

Justastraightdog,







Hee... that was a very cool explanation. Thank you! I was thinking it was doing very well, after they moved to UPN. I could be wrong, but... I for one was watching. I'm still shocked it was cancelled though.



Oh well.... I'm taping it now, so at least I'll have the tapes. Maybe it might even come out to DVD one day?



Thanks again.





Concrete,



That movie IS kinda depressing, but it's also a very awesome movie. Just the relationship side alone, I really enjoyed it. Despite the sadness and the things that did and STILL piss me off about the millitary, I like the story.



I just wish it had, had a different ending though.



Jen

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"I felt cheap," Vamp Willow

[xita]

famer, i had no idea about what happened in real life. Interesting. Still, yes the movie is brilliant, really moving.

If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead

[concrete]

It may be interesting to know that the original title of this movie is: "Coup de Foudre". Translated that would be: "Love at first sight". I do have it in my 'lesbotheque' and indeed it's a marvellous and incredibly romantic movie!

'One snap of my fingers and I can raise hemlines so high the whole world's your gynaecologist.'

Patsy Stone in the AbFab episode – “Magazine”

[helpful information perha]

magpix. yep that would be the one



FYI

interesting piece here about playing gay roles in hollywood



Guardian Unlimited Observer

Top awards set to bury Hollywood's gay curse



www.observer.co.uk/intern...83,00.html

[The Angry Lion]

Just got revenge of the nerds on dvd today, man I missed that movie, I especially love the sorority camera prank

[helpful information perha]

another interesting piece



www.afterellen.com/movies/thehours.html



The Question of The Hours

By Sara Warn

December 2002

[Penrose Orleans]

Has anyone seen this Almodovar movie? "Not very gay" (as one friend put it) but an excellent move and made me a little sad. Downside- if you've got more intelligence than a garden shrub, you figure out the plot twists about 30 minutes before the characters do, leading to a series of "FIGURE IT OUT, DARN YOU!" exclamations... that aside, though, it's very good! -Nora

"Fear prophets...and those prepared to die for the truth, for as a rule they make many others die with them, often before them, at times instead of them." -Umberto Eco

[sheila wt]

Check your local listings for the correct time.

Quote:

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Sunday, 01/26



"Fire Island"

6pm to 8pm (ET)

(4 episodes - 30min each)

Fun, fast-paced and compelling, this "docusoap" follows the real-life stories of a group of gay men and lesbians as they spend the summer on Long Island's famous Fire Island Pines.



"Gay Weddings"

Special Marathon

8pm to 12am (ET)

Again on Monday from 1am to 5am (ET)

(8 episodes - 30min each)

The bickering bridal couple. The meddling in-laws. The last minute disasters. One of the most stressful events for any couple planning to tie the knot is compounded for four gay and lesbian partners in this eight-part documentary that follows their pre-wedding trials and post-nuptial triumphs.

If you're a gay or lesbian couple planning to have a ceremony this spring and would like to be a part of the next Gay Weddings, please contact the producers at (818) 753-6108 or e-mail us at wedding@evolutionusa.com.

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"She had tasted Willow on her tongue, and she had worn Willow on her skin. There wasn't a shower in the world that could have washed that away." (Terra Firma, by Tulipp)

[La]

I just saw Chicago thursday night.



three words: cellblock tango ... mmmmmmmmmm (mmmmmm is so a word)



women are so damn sexy

~La



"A science-fiction movie? I think I have made a science-fiction movie:

Chasing Amy. Because you go ask any lesbian--that'll never happen."

~Kevin Smith

[xita]

i wanna see chicago.. sigh. i need to make more time. i haven't seen the hours either

If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.

Tallulah Bankhead

[dekalog]

Chicago was good - but if you really want to see it - see it at a theatre - it has way more bite and camp - Hollywood as usual has 'cleaned it up a bit' - cutting a couple of the best songs IMO.

[La]

i saw the hours last night. that is also very good. Julianne Moore is an awesome actress. I've never really seen anything that she's been in, but she is really great. So are all the other women in the film.



supposedly a couple of the songs that they cut from Chicago they actually filmed, so they'll be on the dvd.

~La



"A science-fiction movie? I think I have made a science-fiction movie:

Chasing Amy. Because you go ask any lesbian--that'll never happen."

~Kevin Smith

[dekalog]

La - do you know which songs?

edited to say - thanks La that's one can only hope for the other

Edited by: dekalog at: 1/27/03 12:09:02 pm

[sheila wt]

"The Hours" is a wonderful movie. If Nicole Kidman doesn't receive all the awards that exist for her performance in this movie, people just don't have a clue. Funny thing is, I don't really like the 3 actresses that much, but their performance is superb. Even being a slow-paced movie, you just can't get your eyes off the screen. It's so intense!

Ed Harris also does a wonderful job.



I can't wait to go see Chicago now.

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"She had tasted Willow on her tongue, and she had worn Willow on her skin. There wasn't a shower in the world that could have washed that away." (Terra Firma, by Tulipp)

[La]

dekalog, I don't know the names (i'm not really familiar with the musical as a theatrical production, i only know what i've read), but there's a song between queen latifah and catherine zeta-jones' characters that was cut. and that will be on the dvd. i don't know about other songs that might have been cut.

~La



"A science-fiction movie? I think I have made a science-fiction movie:

Chasing Amy. Because you go ask any lesbian--that'll never happen."

~Kevin Smith

[Scoobiedoo]

Oh good golly goodness... my gf and I just saw "Chicago"... and good golly goodness



When the film ended, i turned to my gf, and she just turned to me with this really kind of shocked expression on her face and said "Catherine Zeta-Jones.... SHE IS HOT!". I was initially annoyed with her until i realised that i was thinking the exact same thing



Catherine Zeta-Jones.... oh my LORD! I have never really been a big fan of her in the past, but she is just absolutely spectacular in this film! Her singing and dancing is so incredibly superior to any of the other leads, apart from ofcourse, Queen Latifah (who i have managed to work onto my "freebie" list)... yowza!

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This is love

[shadowomyn]

I loved Chicago. For some reason I kept humming Queen Latifah's song at work the next day.



One nice thing about being single is that no one gets upset with me for drooling over Catherine Zeta-Jones in this part.

[La]

Yeah, Catherine Zeta-Jones is always always hot. Even though I usually don't like the new over-abundance of commercials with movie and tv stars in them, I never get tired of her cellphone commercials. I just realized that I don't even know what phone company they're for! She's hot, and she's a really good actor too. I thought she was great in Traffic. And still hot, though pregnant.

~La



"A science-fiction movie? I think I have made a science-fiction movie:

Chasing Amy. Because you go ask any lesbian--that'll never happen."

~Kevin Smith

[themagicpixie]

May I agree with the "Catherine Zeta Jones is hot" sentiments. In Britain we'd all forgotten she existed until she was in "The Mask of Zorro" and everyone said: "Ooh look it's that girl off "The Darling Buds of May"... wow... she's hot."



UK Kitties: Bad Girls series 5 is due to start later this year. Check out this on the official website:



www.badgirls.co.uk/news/s5.htm



Shell Dockley will be back, and what is more, Amanda Barrie and Stephanie Beacham!!? star as a pair of con-artists. I think Bad Girls may be taking the Crossroads route to casting GENIUS.



Altogether now: That bastard screw Fenner set me up, YOU SLAG!

Edited by: themagicpixie at: 1/28/03 6:33:34 am

[sheila wt]

Oh, lucky you! I'm waiting for the season 4 DVDs. Then it's time to start begging my friends for a copy...



Fenner.

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"She had tasted Willow on her tongue, and she had worn Willow on her skin. There wasn't a shower in the world that could have washed that away." (Terra Firma, by Tulipp)