All My Children

[Kendahl897]

No one knows right now, but I think she's supposed to tell Maggie next week (the 29th). Lena is going to start putting things together within the next several weeks, so everything will probably break within the first two weeks of August, hopefully..I'm really looking forward to Lena finding out, mainly to see Olga act her heart out with Lena's pain and rage. Then it's just a question of time before Michael ends up dead and everyone's a suspect. Right now, I'm tired of psycho Binx.

On a different note, it was funny to see GLAAD protest this storyline and Frons feel the need to come out and reassure the audience about Lena and Bianca. They are after all the most popular couple on the show right now and I think AMC realizes that. He made it clear that they would be going through this rape crisis together. I just wonder what could have been accomplished if GLAAD had held Joss' feet to the flames as they have done AMC's?

[Jennpurr]

Thanks, Kendahl. I'll keep an eye out for that next week.



Jen

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[gspiggott]

Hey Kendahl AMC ratings dropped for rape week.Thought that would make you smile.

[Kendahl897]

I actually don't have a big a problem with the rape storyline as others. I wish they would have gone a different route, but I understand they're setting up for a murder mystery, etc..I'm just impatient for Lena and the others to find out and I hope they (AMC) have enough common sense not to drag out 'angst, suicidal' Binx for too long. I think most Lianca fans are like me and want to see them dealing with the rape or whatever together and are tired of the yo-yoing. But I also believe that AMC knows how popular this couple is, and they know alot of people are watching, and they know they have alot to lose if it's not handled wisely down the road (that means if Lena and Bianca don't deal with this together).....I for one feel that Frons was anxious to get the point across about Lianca for those very reasons.. The balls in their court, let's hope they have more sense than ME did.....otherwise, the ratings will drop more I'm afraid....







OK .. Someone please alert me when Lena finds out because patience is not a virtue I possess. Aren't these things filmed like a month in advance, cause I read that they've already shot the scene where Michael is ------ed.............God, I hope so...

Edited by: Kendahl897 at: 7/21/03 1:59 pm

[laura1959]

Hopefully today when Erica tries to pay Lena off with three million dollars to get out of Bianca's life, Lena will realize something is seriously wrong. I want the Lena with a backbone back!

[xita]

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these last set of spoilers with bianca dumping lena again frustrate me. I find myself wishing for the first time Lena would dump binks and find herself someone else. I know bianca is going through something horrible but I am kinda fed up. If she can find it in herself to tell maggie she should tell Lena. It's probably because Lena is the only reason I am still watching. They've really managed to destroy bianca's character. I don't find any of her reactions true to who she was. I don't react well to characters being manipulated by plot , instead of a story being character driven, it's plot driven and big bleh to that.

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[molsongrrrl]

the previews for tomorrow! lena bought rings!! of course binx is gonna say no -- but WOW!!!!

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of Truth and Love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it, always.

[Kendahl897]

OK, here's my shot at what is going to happen in the next month..I think Lena, along with Kendall, will put their collective heads together and figure out what has happened..I think at the same time they figure it out, Michael will come after Bianca again. But I think this time she will snap and end up killing him. Bianca will then be put on trial. There is no evidence of the rape, but she did tell someone--Maggie..I think that is why Maggie is going to be the one told. She's a neutral in a courtroom, at least compared to Lena and the others. And there are rumors going around that she will start romancing one of the lawyers.. Binx will be found innocent of course and she and Lena will reunite, rings and all..They will then move in together after everything. One night Lena will wake up and Bianca will be in the bathroom throwing up..guess you know the rest of this story.



It'll be interesting to see how everything plays out.. I should add that my batting average on trying to figure out what AMC is going to do is 0-4..................Caio

[singgirl]

I totally missed today's (wed) episode, the power went out

what happened?

Pax! -Bev

[molsongrrrl]

wednesday ep: lena came to erica's penthouse to see bianca (myrtle told her where bianca was). erica told lena that bianca never wanted to see her again ... and when lena insisted on seeing bianca and hearing that from her in person ... erica offered lena 3 mill to stay away from bianca forever. lena declined. erica called security to have lena removed forceably. lena called out for bianca who stopped the security people from removing lena.



once erica left the two alone -- bianca told lena she didn't want to see her anymore. she didn't want a relationship with anyone. lena did not believe her. begged bianca to tell her the truth. finally she told bianca she would find out what happened. bianca told her not to and to find someone new. lena told bianca she had never loved anyone before and when bianca loved her back she couldn't believe her luck so there was no way she was giving her up.



as lena was leaving ... bianca said goodbye lena and lena said no this is far from goodbye and closed the door. bianca cried and was in a lot of pain, but determined to hide it all from erica.



thursday was more of bianca saying nothing was wrong to david and david not believing her. bianca and kendall had a huge confrontation -- bianca almost spilled her guts ... david called maggie to get her to talk to bianca.



previews for friday -- lena offers bianca a ring to prove her commitment ... she actually has a ring for bianca and a ring for herself .... ahhhh ... is she a great girlfriend or what????





edited to add -- from soapnet -- mimi torchin - great column about the rape -- find it here:



soapnet.go.com/onlinefeat...72503.html

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of Truth and Love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it, always.

Edited by: molsongrrrl  at: 7/25/03 10:50 am

[singgirl]

thanks for catching me up much appreciated!

Pax! -Bev

[laura1959]

Today's episode was beautiful and painful at the same time. I just have to wonder though, who does Lena go hang out with after Bianca sends her away again? I do think eventually she and Kendall will put things together about the rape, but it would be nice to know Lena has a friend to turn to in the mean time.

[Sela]

Today's episode was difficult to watch for a couple of reasons--though Olga's performance was just so wonderful, I can't help but gush. But to see Bianca drinking it up in a dive bar, shedding her jacket (that was supposed to hide her bruises), and jumping on the pool table to do a dance just wreaked terribly of desperation. It would be something else if Bianca had consistently used alcohol as a crutch to deal with difficult situations, but Binx has never really been into that sort of thing. And then to have her dancing around provocatively was just a little too much to handle, especially considering that she has been repulsed by the very idea of physical intimacy of late. It just seemed so out of character for her. But then again, AMC has been doing a really great job of massacring the characters.



And when Bianca rejected Lena, I was flabbergasted. Poor Lena just sort of slinked away, shattered and abused. I can't believe this woman has held on for this long. I'm rooting for them, but I'm not holding my breath.



In any case, did anyone read Cady McClain's (ex-Dixie, AMC, Rosanna, ATWT) comment on Bianca's rape storyline? This is from Soap Opera Weekly. She said,

"The first lesbian in daytime, they finally gave her a relationship, then they turn around and rape her," groans Cady McClain, who played Dixie Martin off and on for 13 years. "Lots of straight women have been raped on daytime and I've never liked that. AMC has always been known for socially redeeming storylines. That's something they do better than any other daytime show. I don't know what is socially redeeming abot raping a lesbian."



Interesting quote, I think, and likely to cause quite a debate. Take care, all.



--Sela

Edited by: Sela at: 7/25/03 8:52 pm

[lauriebear]

I have always hated Dixie but I love Cady McClain.

A while back she gave this amazing interview..talking about Bianca's lack of storyline.....and lack of strong women characters on Daytime and/or strong=evil in daytime......and all on this while she was still on AMC.



Yeah, well, stopped watching this crap weeks ago, just like to pop in every now and then and make sure everything is still as depressing as ever.

[xita]

Good for, Cady McClain. I am glad she is away from AMC. ATWT used to be my old favorite soap as a teen. I've been catching it lately since I am on vacation and the quality is way better than what's been passing for entertainment over at ABC.



Bianca the character is this close to being ruined forever. Instead of sympathy she's garnering contempt. It's very sad. And for everyone who didn't believe it, hanging out with maggie has brought Bianca back to the teenage years. After months of hanging out anywhere, having drinks or what have you, today she was concerned about a bar that didn't card. Bleh.

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[molsongrrrl]

i hated dixie and was really disappointed when i read Cady McClain was going to be on as the world turns -- imagine my surprise when i ended up loving her as roseanna.



anyway very interesting quote from cady ... and she is absolutely right. the column on soapnet by mimi torchin is excellent too. people were basically speaking out against this storyline way before it happened too bad amc and abc didn't listen.



eden and olga have been really amazing during this whole mess -- but they deserve so much better. rape stories annoy me period. but its even more disappointing that everyone in pine valley is either so blind or so stupid that they have not put 2 and 2 together already.



and its completely out of character for bianca to continue hiding the truth - especially from lena.



unfortunately for me -- i continue to watch -- i continue to have faith and i like olga (and eden) too much to turn it off ... so the suffering goes on and on ...

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of Truth and Love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it, always.

[Scout]

Laura1959

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Yes, that's what I've been wondering - where does she go and who does she talk to? And why isn't anyone asking Lena what she thinks about Bianca's behavior?



Unforutnately, I'm in the group that is still watching because I have an unfounded belief that it will somehow be positive in the end, but I'm not happy with where we are now.



And with soaps, you just wish you could fastforward about six months and see if it was worth it. But part of me worries that it won't be worth it, and we'll be disgusted by the actions of yet another tv program.

[laura1959]

I've been watching AMC since Sept. 1978. I can be patient waiting for story lines to unfold - and there have been a lot of them that took forever. I feel like I've been holding my breath, waiting to see if AMC and TPTB will allow the lesbian story line to move foreward. As long a fan as I have been of this show, if they back down on this SL, I don't know if I'll be able to continue watching it. It saddens me to say that. I have enjoyed watching some of these actors and their characters grow up. I'll keep watching until they give me a reason not to!

[Scout]

That's amazing that you've been watching AMC that long. I really hope that when it's all said and done you can still be a fan.



It's been a while since I've watched a soap regularly. I think the last time I was really into one was Luke and Laura on the island (GH). haha!



GH was a lot of fun then, but the storyline took forever. Soaps move in their own special time. I need more patience.

Edited by: Scout at: 7/26/03 7:24 pm

[laura1959]

In soap time it's probably only been a couple of days since Bianca's rape, not 3 weeks. It always amazes me how some story lines take forever, while others (like pregnancies and happy marriages) are over in nothing flat!

[Willowlicious]

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My mother was pregnant with me when she started watching AMC in 1970 (I believe that was the year it premiered). I remember the show being on throughout my childhood. I have memories of early characters like Jeff and Tara (good name!) and Phillip and the first Tad. Oddly, I associate the smell of fresh laundry with AMC. My mom always used to fold laundry and watch the show at the same time. I stopped watching, for the most part, in the late 80's.



I just recently started tuning in again to see this Bianca/Lena relationship other Kittens told me about. I found it rather comforting to see the show again. It reminded me of my mom, who passed away last year. Watching Erica scheme her way to another marriage while I folded my laundry was a pleasant throwback. But I'm so disappointed that this rape storyline is being done. I have very little interest in watching it. Too bad. It was nice to revisit Pine Valley for a few weeks anyway.



BTW, good for Cady McClain. It's refreshing to see someone telling it like it is.



Amy

Edited by: Willowlicious at: 7/26/03 10:14 pm

[Kendahl897]

I went back and read that interview in SOW with Brian Frons, the head of ABC Daytime.. what I found most interesting was his comment at the end..the article was about the backlash to Bianca's rape..and he seemed to be saying what they've always said, that she wasn't raped because she was a lesbian and to be patient and see how the story plays out, ya-da ya-da, ya-da..but at the end he seemed to go out of his way to give reassurances about Lena and Bianca, which leads me to believe that they must also be getting alot of letters and e-mails from people expressing concern that this is an attempt to put the brakes on Lianca..It certainly didn't appear as though GLAAD brought it up. I guess my point is that they must realize that people are going to be watching and judging them very carefully on this storyline..They really have alot to lose, IMO...Lianca is the ONLY NEW couple that has been a hit with the fans. Think about it...Henry and Maggie, Greenlee and Carlos, Joni and Reggie, etc..all those pairings have bombed..Lena and Bianca are the only ones that have clicked with a large segment of fans and who consistently get voted favorite couple week after week... Lena was supposed to be written off in May but they were so popular, AMC signed Olga to a contract.....

Edited by: Kendahl897 at: 7/28/03 5:31 am

[ScullyWillowXena]

First off, good for Cady. Secondly, it's too late to put the brakes on the rape but it is not to late to do so on the pregnancy. Just let her confide in her loved ones and start dealing with the trauma, not just hiding it and acting out. If Bianca is pregnant can you imagine what that will do to her storyline. I will seriously think about giving up on this show if they go this route.

[laura1959]

I absolutely agree! Lena and Bianca are the only wonderful new couple AMC has paired together in a very long time. I'm not sure AMC or ABC were ready for the popularity of these two. But, since the kitten's out of the bag (so to speak), they're just going to have to deal with it!

[Kendahl897]

Exactly, and why sign Olga to a contract if you don't have any intention of keeping her character involved with Bianca..It seems they've gone along way in clarifying that she IS a lesbian, and that Michael and the others were strictly business..They could have easily cut Olga/Lena before she got so popular and Lianca was getting voted best couple week after week..I'm not crazy about this rape storyline, but if Lena and Bianca reunite and deal with this together as a couple, then I'll live with it..Because after the past two seasons of Buffy, it sure beats having one of them getting killed.



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The shit hits the fans next week when Bianca's friends and family discover what happened to her...hoping that emotional scene that Frons talked about will be coming up soon...

[urnofosiris]

I really hope you are right Kendahl. Aside from it being bad enough that they've gone down this road at all, they so far have handled this about the worst way I could have imagined. I hope they don't think that the reason Bianca and Lena kept being voted as the most popular couple is because of the non stop misery that has been thrown their way, rather than people wanting to see them happy for longer than 5 minutes before them getting interupted by some new disaster. So I remain very skeptic after all that has happened so far. If they don't start mending some fences soon they may be beyond repair.

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[xita]

I think having faith in producers is the worst thing one can do. If we do that , we've learned nothing. Skepticism is good and healthy.

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[Kendahl897]

I don't have faith in producers, just a hope that this one (Frons) is smart enough to recognize what he has and not throw it away for some 'artistic vision'. He had enough sense to sign Olga. My only point was that he seems to be feeling enough heat to want to address the issue and give some reassurances....

[xita]

I don't want an argument on this, but you know who ( ) reassured. My only point is that, I am not counting on anything at all and I never will with any show. That's why I read what's going on and watch if it seems interesting.

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[scifiacid]

Please, do not put any faith whatsoever in Frons. He is fickle and arrogant and I think single handedly ruining ABCs daytime television. Of course, JMNSHO. Just because he signed Olga means nothing to me. I half expect them to hook Bianca and Maggie up and Lena with David. I have no faith, and never will again, in anyone involved with the production of a television product.



Thus far, the storyline has done only one thing; prove that Eden is much too good an actress to be stuck in this show. She’s served her 3 years it’s time to move on. She should take Olga with her!