The Television and Movie Recommendation/Discussion Thread!

[Lindy]

Heh, BJM. The only thing I remember was that it had a deep impact on me. I couldn't tell you much about plot or anything like that, but I was deeply impressed. So much, I think I stopped thinking for 30 minutes after the movie ended. I was swept away and felt enlightened.



It is very seldom something, anything can move something within me so intense, but BJM did. But I figure I have to get me the DVD to actually know/remember what it was about.. so weird.

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It's nothing. It's all.. nothing

[xita]

I loved BJM, but I wouldn't call it a love story. It was one of the best films period because it is so creative, and the lesbian love story was a great twist.



Oh and Beautiful thing is indeed a Beautiful Thing. Very honest, very true.

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"Oooh Xita!" - Amber Benson

[MadeinNZ]

I also thought Beautiful Thing was wonderful. I loved the mother in it. And don't get me started on the hippy boyfriend. Also - big Momas and Papas fan - so the soundtrack was a big hit.

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"When someone falls for Willow, they stay fallen" - Normal Again

[with catlike tread]

Saw a movie called 'Orange County' on the w/e (DVD), its pretty funny I thought (although on checking the reviews lots of people didnt like it). Anyway, there is a scene where the girlfriend of the main character is at a college party with some sleazy nerdy guy and he is an english major who talks about all his ideas for writing plays and books and so on.



He then says he has a great idea for a tv series "see, it seems to be about vampires on the surface but really, underneath, its actually about the re-unification of Germany" (actually the quote is funnier but i cant find it anywhere on the net).

[xita]

I watched Amelie the other day, I was staying away from it cause I felt it was hyped. So I just loved it. I loved the creative story telling, I love the lawn gnome and I loved the spirit of the movie. It is good for the soul to watch something so unapologetically optimistic. I recommend it highly.

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"Oooh Xita!" - Amber Benson

[Hemiola]

Some Kittens might be interested in seeing "Total Eclipse" (being shown periodically on the IFC cable channel).



It tells the sad story of the (very) troubled relationship between the (bisexual) Paul Verlaine and the (gay) Arthur Rimbaud (played quite convincingly by Leonardo di Caprio). These are two of the greatest poets in the French language, and it's frankly amazing to think that such great works came out of two such sordid lives (a great deal of Rimbaud's poetry is heard in the film).



Perhaps someone on this board (maybe BFRfromParis ?) can tell me if this (very graphic!) film was ever released and/or shown in France?

[xita]

I just watched Aimee and Jaguar. Which is an amazing film. SO deeply moving and sad. And I had read the book. I have been sitting on the DVD for months because it just, i haven't been in the mood. It was very difficult. I recommend it but be prepared for sadness. It's a true story and the DVD has lots of extras about that if you haven't read the book.

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ANd knowing this woman lives for so long alone, 50+ years grieving .. I can't fathom that. It's amazing though that some people think a traumatizing death can be overcome in less than a season though

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"Oooh Xita!" - Amber Benson

[momentum]

Oh, Xita, I loved Amelie too. It was so beautiful and witty and wonderful.

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Elise
Reno Dakota there's not an iota of kindness in you

You know you enthrall me and yet you don't call me

It's making me blue

[AutumnT]

I agree xita. I thought that was a very powerful movie. And amazingly no going back to boystown during the next sweeps month...

Autumn

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Buffy Season 6: It grated, like something forced in where it doesn't belong.

[Lindy]

Oh my, this movie is so strong, sad, moving.. it is just wow. And because it's taking place in my hometown it's just so near to me, although of course I have no idea what the people back then had to go through. But the streets and houses.. most of them still exist; if walls could speak they could tell thousands of similar stories.



But the movie is really able to bring the struggles people had to go through across.. it makes me weep. And how strong is it to keep your will to live and love alive under such circumstances. Shows you a whole new perspective about what it means to be a jewish lesbian.

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It's nothing. It's all.. nothing

[drlloyd11]

I saw this after the Boston Phoenix called it the "new Casablanca". Not a happy film, but powerful..

I keep thinking of the lifes of the woman in it, hiding everything everyday everywhere..

[friskylez]

Just a heads up in case some kittens didnt know, Bound is on FX again tonite at 8 West coast time...

From Everythings Relative, .."the personal is political "

[theatremouse]

heh....i just watched it on fx. y'all it's SO poorly dubbed over on like every other sentence to correct the "inapprorpriate" phraseology, AND Soooooo edited. the whole thing, with commericials is only 6 minutes longer than the unedited version.......that's so sad, yet so amusing to me...... of course it makes tons of the scenes rather incongruous and the editing is consequently not good, on a film, that in its entirely is actually very well edited..... oy, anywhoo, the things they do for cable......tons of it just flat out doesnt make sense because tame references to cut out scenes, have no basepoint. ah well. hopefully any poor soul watching it for the first time on tv will have the sense to realize theres been some funky censors editing goin' on and rent it......



peace.

[friskylez]

Yep you are so right TheaterMouse...I have my own copy dont need to watch the "cleaned" up version...

From Everythings Relative, .."the personal is political "

[mscheckmate]

I need to buy the DVD. I taped "Bound" off HBO a couple of years ago, but decided to go ahead and watch it on FX anyway. Not the best use of my time. They left out the most important scenes between Gina and Jennifer. Not that I was just watching it for the girl-on-girl action, but geez...



But I just about fell over laughing when they changed one of Joe Pantoliano's expletives to "fudge." That was pricelessly awful.

Xander: "Tara, nice axing." Tara: "My first."

Edited by: mscheckmate at: 7/31/02 10:37:48 pm

[Hemiola]

At least censorship is nowhere near as bad as it used to be.



I'm old enough to remember when "The Godfather" was shown on broadcast television for the first time back in the 1970s--they had to bring James Caan back into the studio so that Sonny could shout "Son of a buck!"



Don't even get me started on what they did to films like "Midnight Cowboy" and "Joe".

[friskylez]

Or how about the line where Gina walks in the bar and says "im just here to get laid", they changed that to "im just here to have sex"..what a guy can say he wants to get laid but a lesbian cant??

From Everythings Relative, .."the personal is political "

[mollyig]

That's just bizarre, changing that line like that.



I know Bound was on one of the English stations last year - didn't watch it because I have the DVD - so I don't know if it was censored or not.

Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

[theatremouse]

yeah! i saw that "fudge" and immediately had to call my ex and tell her what fx had done! we had a goooooood laugh at that, and how bout the girlyangry scene with "inside youre just a litte 'tramp' like me" since when can we not say "dyke" on broadcast? anyway the "laid" thing was by far the most rediculous. i have the dvd. it's so great. i'm so obssessive about that movie i've even watched it dubbed in french from the dvd. (longstory) how about jonny the 'rat'? that scene is sooooooooooo funny. none of the emotions match the words AT ALL. wouldve been more effective if they just, not bleeped, i'm against the bleep, but the just mute the word out. cuz i mean, come on? who doesnt feel cheated out of joe pantoliano calling him a "fucking fuck"? i know i do.

i actually laughed out loud with the editing out of the entire love scene. it was like "oooh we're gonna lean in and kiss now" CUT TO "i needed that" like 8 minutes or something of footage. FUN-NY stuff.

and at one point, but only one, they changed someone (i forget who) to saying "feck", which is, imho, a fantastik word, but it just struck me, like, you can say feck once on cable, but the rest have to be "fudge" or "shoot" or "goshdarnit".........ah yes, tis a mormon mob flick.



peace.

mouse

Willow: It's horrible! That's me as a vampire? I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.

Edited by: theatremouse at: 8/1/02 11:45:51 am

[mollyig]

They said "feck"? Hah whoever censored it must be Irish!



Obviously they couldn't get a job here as a censor - the Irish stations are wonderfully lax about editing - pity they don't get some better programmes and films, though.

Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two
Indigo Girls

[LostInEcstasy]

Yay!! Show Me Love is on TV in less than an hour!!! I've wanted to see it for SO long. And now it is on!!! Yay!!! And on my birthday too - so it's like a cool present from my television. Oh television, how I love you.



Anyway, I had no-one else to share my excitement with so, as is becoming a habit, I came to tell the kittens. Lucky you, huh?



Oh and if anyone else wants to watch it, it's on Showcase (the Canadian station) at 2:20 am. 30 minutes and counting...

[friskylez]

LostinEcstasy, Show Me Love is a terrific movie, bought my own copy not to long ago The young girls that star in it are absolutely adorable...

From Everythings Relative, .."the personal is political "

[pikachu1060]

Yeah, show me love is such a great movie, and the two girls are sooo cute

Even my brother did like it though i think he hasn't yet figured out why i bought it. He's so naive!

[Hemiola]

Kittens with access to the IFC cable channel might want to check out the movie "French Twist" (I don't know its original French title).



This comedy stars Victoria Abril as a French housewife who tries to "re-spark" her husband's interest in her by making him jealous by having an affair with a lesbian! It turns out, however, that she actually falls in love with the lesbian in question, and thereafter all sorts of interesting twists and turns follow...



As the Michelin Guides say, this movie is "worth a detour" .

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"That cramp still bothering you? Maybe you should put some ice on it."

Tara to Spike in "Older and Far Away"

[pikachu1060]

The French title is "gazon maudit". Gazon means lawn but in slang, it refers to the pubic hair... and maudit means cursed.



Anyway, that's a fun movie, but really not the best i have seen. I'm not a big fan of Josiane Balasko...

[theatremouse]

i watched that! but in french, without subtitles, and my french is not so hot, so i'm betting it was a lot more amusing to me, than i necessarily shouldve been,cuz it was just amusing that about a third of the time i was really tremendously not sure what was being said.

interestingly i've noticed that my gay male friends all think that movie is a riot. dont know why there's that trend...

[friskylez]

I just watched an awesome documentary and highly recommend it...I dont know if its been talked about in the thread, but i had never heard of it..Its called Paragraph 175 about the gays and lesbians that were intered during the Hitler regime..Its a moving documentary about a forgotten group of people..

From Everythings Relative, .."the personal is political "

[The Angry Lion]

if I may, id like to make a second plug for Doctor T and the Women, I think some ppl have been led to believe this is a chauvinistic film, bullocks, its a great film with great lesbians (I was just waiting for Liv Tyler to take that role) Show Me Love excellent, Bound excellent, but at the risk of being unpopular I must say i dislike both Mulholland and Chasing Amy



anyway thats my piece

[kukalaka]

friskylez:

Is it just about the Third Reich or is it the whole story of that terrible paragraph?



Because what's actually even worse is that it wasn't changed until 1969

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It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

[friskylez]

Kuklaka, Its about the beginning of the third reich when Hitler took over..And yes i was astonished to see that East Germanys "175" was in effect till 1968 and West Germanys until 1969 or maybe it was the other way around...The lesbians werent really "prosecuted" per se, they were seen as "sick" individuals, but could be changed so that they could bear children for the motherland..



The men were the ones who were put in prison or concentration camps, they were viewed as a contagious plague...I think the most horrible part was the experiments that were done on the men, the things they must have gone thru...It was very moving to hear a few of the survivors stories...

From Everythings Relative, .."the personal is political "