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Attack of the Killer B Movies from Outer Space!

Postby maudmac » Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:40 am

I love B movies. Cult movies. Low-budget craptacular movies. Camp.



I do lean toward horror myself, but this thread isn't just for horror. It's for any B movies, whether they're horror, camp, sci-fi, kung fu, exploitation, or whatever. Anything soooo bad that it's actually good, or at least fun and cheesy.



I grew up loving shows like Dark Shadows and old Vincent Price movies the TV stations played late at night before the sign-off. So I was pretty darn happy that, when my small hometown finally got a video rental store, they mostly only had the worst movies. Cheap 'n' crappy. This is how I saw movies like: Motel Hell, The Toolbox Murders, Gates of Hell, The Toxic Avenger, Female Plasma Suckers, Pieces, Prom Night, Puppet Master, Satan's Cheerleaders, Frankenhooker, Reanimator, etc. (Yeah, I read Fangoria, too.)



That store introduced me to my two absolute favorites: Attack of the Killer Tomatoes and Plan 9 from Outer Space. Classics! I can watch them over and over and it never gets old.



In Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, the government creates super-tomatoes and, of course, it all goes to hell and tomatoes start killing people. So they call in a team of specialists (who suck, natch) to take care of the tomato menace. My favorite scene, without a doubt, is when that one tomato avoids death (the song "Puberty Love" (!) is lethal to killer tomatoes - or, actually, it shrinks them to normal tomato size so they can be easily squished) by wearing what appear to be ear muffs. The hero is able to kill it, however, by showing it the sheet music. Brilliant! (AotKT actually has a fairly serious message about genetic engineering that resonates even more now, some 25 years later, than it probably did at the time.)



Plan 9 is...it defies description, really. It must be seen to be believed. Seriously. In a nutshell, aliens come to Earth to stop humanity from blowing up the whole universe. Humanity ignores them. So the aliens set about to resurrect dead humans to get our attention.



Behold some of these lines:
  • Greetings, my friends. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember, my friends, future events such as these will affect you in the future.
  • Your guess is as good as mine, Larry. But one thing's sure. Inspector Clay is dead...murdered...and somebody's responsible!
  • My friends, can your hearts stand the shocking facts about grave robbers from outer space?
  • For a time we tried to contact them by radio, but no response. Then they attacked a town. A small town, I'll admit. But nevertheless a town of people. People who died.
  • Ah yes, Plan 9 deals with the resurrection of the dead. Long distance electrodes shot into the pineal pituitary glands of recent dead.
  • Well, as long as they can think we'll have our problems. But those whom we're using cannot think. They are the dead. Brought to a simulated life by our electrode guns. You know, it's an interesting think when you consider...the Earth people, who can think, are so frightened by those who cannot: the dead.
:rollin (That last one is my favorite, btw.)



I'm also especially fond of Trog and The Wicked Stepmother, as they are not only excellent crap, they are also the last films of Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, respectively. Trog is pretty standard '60s/'70s B movie crap and is mostly notable for Joan's appearance. Now that I'm thinking of it, Berserk! is good, too. It's campier than Trog. Any Joan movie from around that time, late '60s, will have a heavy Pepsi presence, which amuses me. Unlike Joan's movies, which I like mostly for her, The Wicked Stepmother ('89), is spectacularly terrible/wonderful all by itself, and would mostly likely be on my list anyway. However, it's really because of Bette that it sucks so much. Since she quit after a few days of filming, supposedly because she wasn't pleased with how she appeared on film, they had to do a whole lot of scrambling to rewrite during filming, so the plot goes completely insane at a certain point and ceases to make any sense whatsoever. Hee, she just walked off. That is so Bette Davis. :lol



In recent news - I'd been wanting to see Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter for some time, and I finally saw it recently. It immediately went into my Top Five. Here's a review. Aside from being profoundly low-budget (as in totally homemade-looking), which is de rigeur for films in this thread, I was pleasantly surprised to see that it's a very LGBT-positive film - it's packed full of the stuff. It's a transwoman who plays Good Samaritan, saving Jesus from the gutter. A major plot point is that the vampires are killing lesbians in the first place because "they're deviants and no one will miss them." To which Jesus insists, "There's nothing deviant about love!" Jesus' mother talks to him from a glowing plastic Mary statue. After Jesus tells her about what's going on, Mary says something like, "Oh, we love the lesbians! They get so much done in a day." :lol



Okay, I've yapped long enough. What do y'all have to say about B/Camp/Cult/etc. films? Love 'em? Hate 'em? Which ones? Why? Discuss!


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Re: Attack of the Killer B Movies from Outer Space!

Postby urnofosiris » Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:26 am

I must have seen so many B movies when I was a kid, specifically horror movies. I loved to watch them and then tell my friend who was a girl about them in as much gory detail as I could recall, or make worse things up as I went along. I have forgotten most of them, so I can't really come up with any names. What makes a movie a B movie though? Could you define it a bit, because I would consider all the early 80s teenage Molly Ringwald movies B movies as well. I loved them, I admit it, I loved Molly Ringwald and the cheesy girl gets boy stories. What can I say, the sins of youth. :p

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B-Movies

Postby TyRex316 » Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:00 pm

Watching Mystery Science Theater 3000(MST3K) gave me a new found appreciation of B-movies. if only for the fact that I can verbally rail at them while watching like Joel(Mike) and the bots did. One of the worse(best) I can remember is one about some eye creatures from outer space. Basically just actors running around with custumes compsed of grey colored balls and bright light killed them. It's hilarious/groan inducing to watch- in one scene late in the movie(the big confrontation) they eye creatures were in costumes that were obviously not even finished. And then the main characters recruiting a bunh of parking(making out in cars) teens to simply shine their headlights on the monsters has to be the best example of anticlimatic I'd ever seen.

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Re: B-Movies

Postby maudmac » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:47 am

G, it's probably gotten difficult to define exactly what a B movie really is. Once upon a time, it would've been obvious - low budget, not commercially successful, no real stars, probably written and produced quickly with little attention to quality, probably contained some mistakes, and intended mostly to be filler at drive-in theaters.



Nowadays, though, so many big budget films with well-known stars and/or directors are sooooo bad, I'd say you kind of have to rethink the definition of "B movie." Movies like Gigli and Showgirls come to mind. (I love Showgirls. It's so bad it's good. Plus, of course, Gina Gershon.)



Likewise, plenty of low-budget movies end up doing really well and might be, quality-wise, far better than much of what's in theaters at any given time. Films like The Blair Witch Project, The Full Monty, and 28 Days Later come to mind.



For me, you just know a B movie when you see it. Most likely, it's going to look and sound cheap. The writing and acting will probably be horrible. Any special effects will be cheesy.



I wouldn't consider Molly Ringwald's '80s movies to be B movies at all. The movie Ty describes above sounds like the epitome of what makes a B movie a B movie.



Ty, that movie sounds awesome. I want to see it!


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Re: B-Movies

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:49 pm

Ah ok, see I consider obviously cliched cheesy movies B movies as well, anyway, I can't really come up with any titles myself. I did see Vincent Price movies and other gory cheap horror movies. As for movies like Gigli, I think those deserve a catagory of their own, it's an insult to genuine B movies to be compared to such utter crap. Some movies are so bad that they become funny or good, but Gigli is not one of them.

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Re: Attack of the Killer B Movies from Outer Space!

Postby cattwoman98111 » Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:32 pm

Ohhh, i remember Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!!! I remember a darn tomato coming up out of the garbage disposal and attacking someone, scared the you know what outta me.



I was addicted to Dark Shadows. I also liked Tron a lot as well, when Matrix came out I said to myself “self, that’s just Tron redone with better effects” ok, there were a FEW differences but, come on now, The One??? User???



Rocky Horror Picture Show has got to be on the list somewhere, right? Only movie that I can think of where dressing up as the characters is not met with odd looks (besides Trekies)



Pricilla Queen of the Desert, I loved, loved, loved that movie. If you have not seen it, rent it!



Tank Girl. Lori Petty and her sidekick, kicking some ass! My best friend and i at the time drug our *cough* boyfriends *cough* to it, needless to say they hated it, we bonded in more ways than one over it!



Anywho, great thread I’ll be stopping in if I see anything that qualifies as a “B” movie!

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Barbarian Queen

Postby redleia » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:09 am



I saw a badly dubbed women barbarian's movie called Barbarian Queen.It was hilarious.The barbarians should have executed the royal tailor.The queens top was constantly getting torn off.The lovable rouge who was helping the queen avenge her people gave groaners like "Your majesty,I pledge you my sword,if in return I may give you my sword.



Or the evil queen saying."I will kill you and then you will be dead.



I have become a fan of Warrior women exploitation movies.They are so funny.And they always have nice looking models who should have stayed on the run way.But the cheesy effects,ludicrous storylines and Plan 9 worthy dialouge are what keeps me going back.



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Re: Barbarian Queen

Postby The Smee » Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:19 am

I recently bought three titles on DVD, due to some reviews in SFX magazine a while ago. They sounded pretty cool, so when I saw them in that big Forbidden Planet in London which has just opened, I snatched then up.



They are: Versus (Japanese Zombies), Wild Zero (Japanese Zombies with electric guitars) and FIEND without a FACE (a proper American 50s era B-movie).



Everyone should buy these. I mean it. They're simply the most fun I've had watching films in ages. Please listen:



Versus is one of the best action-movies I have ever seen. I really mean it, the fighting scenes are done with so much style and viciousness that each one makes you cringe whenever a blow is landed. It's all so completely over the top - the coolness of the whole thing is ridiculous. At one point, a bunch of Yakuza get out of a car. The one scene takes about 5 minutes, as the camera keeps on swirling around capturing them standing up in slow motion, sunlight flareing up off the car and all their leather. 5 minutes to get out of a car? This film is damned cool.

And it's so completely OTT. Fights frequently involve the characters flying up in the air hacking away at each other with samurai swords, cutting heads off and ripping hearts out.

Oh yes. It's also really, really violent. It's utterly brilliant when intestines fall out, brains get smashed out, heads get crushed and point-blank shotgun bursts to the chest happen during the film, usually all at the same time.

Basically, criminals escape from jail, meet up with Yakuza who sprung them, in a forest. Zombies in forest. Zombies have guns. Big fight. More Yakuza. More Zombies. Big powerful man. Lots of blood. Big powerful man has samurai sword. More blood. More zombies. More guns. Lots of blood. Fight, fight, blood, bang, splat, lots of brains. Big fight. The End.

It lasts two whole hours. Utterly loveable.



Wild Zero carries on in a much more stupider vein. It's about an alien invasion, who make the dead come to life, again in Japan. There's this rock and roll band (real life Wild Zero) and their groupie, and his girlfriend. The band are being chased by their ex-manager (who, incedentally, wears the shortest short shorts ever. I've never seen a tighter pair. It's kind of hypnotic) who has lots of guns. There's also an arms dealer commando woman. Pitch all of those against killer zombies and flying saucers and you have one hell of a film.

A typical action set-peice involves the lead singer screaming "ROCK AND ROLL!!!!" and then proceding to decapitate zombies with ninja shurikun guitar picks, then breaking out his samurai electric guitar. And his microphone with a built-in flamethrower. And the bands' car, with built in flamethrower. And the bands bike, with...well. You get the idea.

It's also got some positive messages about transexual relationships, too. Bloody brilliant!



Finally, we have FIEND without a FACE. It's spelt like that on the box, by the way.

It's a classic explotation flick from the late 50s. It's got everything: a secret killer stalking the woods, an atomic-powered airforce base, fear of those commie bastards, suspicious, low-IQ locals, a crackpot scientific genius, a great shower scene...the works.

There's something which is killing residents of the local town. Examination of the bodies finds out that their brains and spinal columns have been removed. Intresting. They all think it's the nuclear fallout from the government air base. They deny! The Mr Manly Muscle general goes to talk to crackpot scientist and sexy assistant. General and assistant fall in love. Aww. Crackpot scientist turns out that he was experimenting with 'physical thought' or some such nonsense. Then, the nuclear plant at the airbase goes slightly cuckoo...

Up until now, the film has actually been a little boring. Not that great, really. I was regretting buying it. Then, see, what happens, is that the overloading nuclear generators give the 'physical thought' more power, and they become visible. As...BRAINS!!! BRAINS, which move around with worm like SPINAL COLUMNS!!! BRAINS, with EYES on STALKS!!! BRAINS!!! crawling around, leaping up and killing people by wrapping their spines around their throats and then sucking their brains out! It's the attack of the stop-motion BRAINS!!!

The finale is amazing. Trapped inside a boarded up house, the sexy assistant, general and mates from the airforce hold out against the attacking BRAINS, blowing them to bloody peices with guns and axes! WOW! Absolutely tonnes of BRAINS get blown apart during this. It's amazing. It's fantastic. It was made in 1958! It's completely mental. You need to see this!



Well, that's it. I have a lot more I could talk about, but those are my favourites. Go buy them. They're great. Versus, by the way, is actually a really good film about destiny and love, strangely. Not just a crappy B-movie. Which it most definately is. A little side-note: the fake knives they had for the fight scenes looked a little...fake. So they used real knives. Eek.



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Buckaroo Bonzai

Postby redleia » Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:50 pm



Great B Film:Buckaroo Banzai:Adventures in the Ninth dimension.The Hero is a physicist,neurosurgeon,rock star..etc.



They are fighting an invasion of Aliens with names like John Big Bootie.It is absolutely weird and tons of fun.



Red Leia:pride :willow :tara :kitty :banana

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Hearts and Armour

Postby sam7777 » Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:13 pm

My guilty pleasure is a little italian film from 1983 called "I Paladini - storia d'armi e d'amori" and released in the US as "Hearts and Armour". It starred Tanya Roberts and lots of beautiful people beautifully filmed. No real plot but gawd is everybody gorgeous. Th woman who did the costumes also did costumes for Ladyhawk and First Knight.

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Re: Hearts and Armour

Postby seurat » Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:27 pm

I loved Buckaroo Bonzai. Jeff Goldblum in the stupid cowboy costume is priceless.And I don't think Ellen Barkin ever looked better, altho I realize I'll get arguments on that one.



Meanwhile, the sequel to Ginger Snaps, Ginger Snaps:Unleashed, comes out in January, and the prequel Ginger Snaps Back (set in the 19th century) comes out in March. Both have the same female leads, but a different writer and director. Hopefully they'll both be good b- grade fun like the first one.

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Start with playing." - Alexei Panshin, The Thurb Revolution



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Ginger Snaps

Postby redleia » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:28 am



I watched Ginger Snaps with a bunch of frat boys.Man It was a blast.They squirmed like you would not believe.(<:



Can't wait for the Prequel and sequel.



Red Leia:willow :tara :pinky :bigwave :banana

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Re: Ginger Snaps

Postby The Smee » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:32 am

Ginger Snaps! That's an amazing film!

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Re: Ginger Snaps

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:39 pm

I saw a few scenes from Death Race 2000 yesterday. I had forgotten all about it, but I had seen it before, I actually remembered the parts I saw yesterday, but I did not realize when I first saw it how funny it is. Anyway, I think this counts as a B movie doesn't it? Oh and talking about barbarian queens, what about barbarian governors? I used to really like the Conan movies. :p

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Re: B-Movies

Postby LadyBrymstone » Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:08 am

My favorite B-movie has to be the original "Sleepaway Camp." That movie is so bloody awful, but hysterical. It's supposed to be scary, but you can't help but laugh at the horrible acting, etc. The whole premise revolves around a summer camp and this brother and sister. The sister rarely says anything and gets picked on by the other male and female campers, with her brother always coming to her defense. And of course, a bizarre series of murders starts to occur...oh someone getting burned to death by scalding salted water, a camper getting becoming quite intimate with a hot curling iron...loads of summer fun, right? The end of the movie is quite shocking, in a really ridiculous way...so I shant give it away.

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Re: B-Movies

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:47 am

oh lady B that reminds me of another movie I saw like 20 years ago. I think it went something like this: a group of people were invited to some luxurious villa to shoot a (independent?) movie. Only whoever it was that wanted to make the movie wanted it to be realistic so the cast started getting killed off and that was shot on film. I remember one scene only, a guy takes a dive into a pool and the water is either boiling or acid or something. I can still picture him trying to struggle out with his skin breaking out in horrible blisters or something. Does this ring a bell with anyone? B movie for sure, only I forgot the name.

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Re: B-Movies

Postby The Partisan » Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:50 pm

Hellraiser, particularly the more recent ones. Pinhead is, in my judgment, the coolest villain ever, and it was about the only time I've ever enjoyed a "Horror-villain-goes-to-space" in Hellraiser: Bloodlines.



And any Kirsty Cotton fans need to see Hellraiser: Hellseeker, for her fantastic return.



Pinhead is so cool he doesn't need to chase people, either, he just ruins their shit via willpower and chains with hooks.

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