Xena: Warrior Princess

[Warduke]

The show has been over for a while now, but since a lot of people here were fans of the show at one time or another, I thought we could, reminisce about the good times, and the bad.



I became a fan of Xena when I read an article in TV Guide about the start of it’s third season, and it mentioned this thing called subtext, so of course, I just had to check it out



I soon had seen all the eps from the two seasons I had missed, and was a big fan.

Of course the subtext was really fun, although it became annoying after a while, too bad they never had the guts to go all the way. But they had me as a fan if for nothing else than the constant reminder that X&G were soulmates (I just love the idea of soulmates, one of the reasons I love W/T so much)



So just post about whatever you want concerning the show. Episodes that you loved/hated, favorite/least favorite characters/actors, favorite/least favorite storylines, etc…



And I just wanted to mention one more thing...RIP Kevin.

Kevin Smith was just amazing as Ares, he really brought the God of War to life and was a really nice guy. He is sorely missed.

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Lil' Trevor : Always the life of the party.

[BytrSuite]

This show was fun. I can still watch most of the episodes. Heh, and have been since they've been airing them on the Oxygen channel. I still have a bunch of tapes but haven't pulled them out for years.



Hee, soulmates



I think I hated seasons 4 and 5 the most, though I'd need to look at a list to be sure, heh.

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"Oh, good! I was hoping to add theft, endangerment and insanity to my list of things I did today."
"Ah! You, too?"
(Stitch laughs delightedly)

[Gatito Grande]

Hallelujah! (or should I say, "Pwaise Hestia"? )



Y'know, I've been wanting to start such a thread for months, but I was a little bit afraid of provoking a (if unspoken) "GG, shut up about Xena already!" reaction. (You let me off the hook, Warduke )



Why does this show speak to me like no other? It's because . . .



. . . you thought I was going to say "Xena & Gabrielle Truly in Love Forever" right? Well, you wouldn't be wrong. But I think that relationship is so important to me, only because of who Xena is---and why I identify w/ her. No, not as the former "Destroyer of Nations" (though I still kinda love Esquire's description of her as "the first bisexual mass-murderer Americans have welcomed into their homes" ).



It's much more simple than that: to the best of my (American) TV-viewing knowledge and experience (and I can remember back to new shows in black-and-white, kiddies! ), "Xena" was the very first *female* lead character who was dignified w/ the (male) narrative-staple of The Backstory---specifically, the "Anti-Hero Backstory." What a concept! To think that a woman might be "interesting enough" to have a backstory!



Well, as you can see, one post in, and I'm already pontificating---expect more in the future (to say nothing of unceasing Gabrielle-love ). Battle On!



GG Anybody here remember me as "AlciBIades" over on the Xena NetForum (aka The NutForum)? Out

[YMKA]

Ah...Xena....

Hooked from the first episode ( I used to watch Hercules before and I really loved it), became obsessed after Bitter Sweet ....I just needed to tape every episode!!!!!

Some bad...some good...but mostly Good (for me) I loved it for the writting....comedy, tragedy....they had it all. Gotta love LL and ROC

Kevin Smith was brilliant....I always liked him

And what a bummer...we don't have here Oxygen!!!!!

I kinda missed season 5....moved to a different country

*runs to see Xena kits with outtakes..... (yeah I do have them )



M.

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"..I feel you, I taste you, I cannot forget, everytime it rains I get wet..." (c) Ace of Base

[Hanki]

ahh xena watch a show :-D



i watched from pretty much the beginning, well when they first showed it on 5ive over here anyways and ive always loved it. season three is my fave though and 'the bitter suite' amazes me every time i watch it.. 'lyre lyre hearts on fire' is awesome too but not as good as 'the bitter suite' hehehe.



and of course there's renee o'conner... *drools*

~ Han ~


"the fatal flaw of 'Who's Gurkhan?' was that nobody cared who he was as long as Gabrielle kept dancing in that skimpy outfit..." ~ me on Xena season six ep 'Who's Gurkhan.'

[Vampire Willow]

YAY! GO GABBY AND XENA! I love this show, dudes!!!! I watched it when I was really little and then not too long ago a friend of mine said that it had a strong lesbian following. (yeah, well, I was 9 when I watched it so it didn't exactly click then) so I watched the re-runs on Oxygen and fell in love all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*SIGH* I love Xena....



~Tash xoxo

Edited by: Warduke at: 9/20/03 8:57 am

[WebWarlock]

Ok I'll admit it. I got a huge kick out of Xena.



Sure the stories were cheesy, the continuity was at best thin, and it had about as much to do with real world history and myth as a comic book. But it was fun.



Yeah the non-payoff on the subtext thing was anonying. Xena dying in the end was just plain stupid (wouldn't have the souls been freed all the other times she died?)



I watch it whenever I can catch it cause it is still kinda fun.



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[Rane018]

good lords! everyone at yahoo chat knows my current obsession with xena. i used to watch it before i moved to nyc and then i just lost track of it. i'm finally catching up with it (thank you kris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and i have to admit the ending made me cry like a baby. i love the idea they are soulmates, and even though the finale made no sense to me, i still love xena and gabs. lots of ups and lots of downs but all around they're a great couple. however, my recent xena watching obsession has lead to a fanfic reading obession and my life has never been the same since.

"Take care of my heart, won't you please? Take care of it because it's all that I have. And if you let me, I'll take care of your heart too." Pure sweetness in the look between Willow and Tara.

[Strapping Lass.]

Ahh Xena how did I used to love thee .

I started watching Hercules from when the first tv movies came out because I'm a huge Sam Raimi fan and it was his tv company that made it and as it was produced and sometimes directed by Robert Tapert who help produce the Evil Dead films I had to check it out.

The tv movies begat Hercules the series and when the character of Xena was in the Hercules eps I remember thinking she would be great in her own series.

Hee good thing TPTB agreed

Its a shame that the show went the way it did because there was a moment when it was better than almost anything else on tv by miles even with its teeny budget. (Except the X-Files but thats a whole other thread! )

I too loved the anti-hero back story GG mentioned (and btw I used to post on the 'Nutforum' too as Strapping Lass as well, what an insane place it was - dear god some of the flame wars that went on, not to mention the Reprobates waging war on the show supporters...gah

I also thought the action scenes were really brilliant, I think its a shame Lucy Lawless isn't really interested in having a big career because some of her performances were amazing in Xena (before it got to the later seasons and she either didn't care or played it for laughs anyway) and she was so convincing in the action scenes - you really believed she could knock ten bells out of anyone.

Battle on indeed GG!

Strapping Lass

[willowntaraslovechild]

Im not sure which thread to post this in. Its a small article in TVGuide about Hudson. It mentions the stint shes doing on Tru Calling and what other show she might be on.

www.tvguide.com/news/insider/030918c.asp

[Gatito Grande.]

Geez, Strapping Lass, I thought that handle sounded vaguely familiar (NutForum regulars: it's like we went through The 'Nam together, huh? I remember one poster who sounded waaaaay too much like "Selena's Fan Club President", and I said so. When she finally got the reference, I had to start fearing for *my* life, as well as Lucy's.

Totally agree about LL's physical presence--but that may just be by virtue of great editing. I heed Lucy's warning "if you can't see my face, it's probably not me" and I still can't see the body double(s).

The waxing and waning of the 6 seasons (and performances): well, that's just too big a subject for me to get into now (to say *nothing* of Friend in Need.)

GG If only I really *had* written my dissertation on XWP (as I often day-dreamed---when not reading fan fiction!), I would have finished that frickin' degree years ago. Out

[SJ]

Was talking to a friend about Xena the other day as she has got S1 and S2 DVD boxsets which have interviews and other extra stuff on them.

Yeah watched it here in England when it was on Sky.

Got edited a lot though on tv here though.

[Cicca.]

Ahhhhhhhhhh Xena. The show I've always loved.

I started watching during the reruns after season one and it slowly grabbed by fancy. Xena kicking butt was just such a rush! And I owe this whole "Ohhhh.... WOMEN!" kinda thing to Xena.

FIN... Well... Cinematically stunning. Plot? Not so much. The end? Well Xena will be back as soon as they make a movie. Oh please let there be a movie!

[Gatito Grande]

I should have mentioned this some months ago, but better late than never:



A talented group of bards have established "weblogs" (blogs) for Xena and Gabrielle, that will cover the entire span of the series (it started 8 or 9 months ago, and right now, they're up to S2's Destiny. They're updated every week or so---usually two or three entries per ep). It stars the incomparable Vivian Darkbloom as the inner voice of "Xena", and the project is outstanding. All the major players add periodic comments to the entries (as blogs often do), and it's just a great way to review the show from a fan fiction perspective.



Here are the links:



Xena's blog: xena.trobairitz.net/



Gabrielle's blog:gabrielle.trobairitz.net/



Do I even need to mention that the blogs are written from the "alternative" (aka "subtext" aka "maintext" aka "X+G 4Ever, Baby!") perspective? Duh!



As I said, Xena is written by Vivian Darkbloom, one of my all-time favorite bards. Her Xena is an absolute scream w/ all her thoughts revealed, yet true to the show, too (potentially keyboard-ruining funny : be careful not to read while eating/drinking!). The "Gabrielle" blog is far less developed (emotionally), but that does owe, at least in part, to Gabrielle's evolution (maturity) over the course of the show. (I have no idea how they're going to handle "The Rift", but that not knowing is part of the appeal, too).



The only downside? Waiting for updates! (I'm gonna die of anticipation before they get to The Quest!)



GG Check it out! Out

[sam7777.]

Yeah. Xena was great. The one sin that Xena never commmitted until that last awful ep was to take itself too seriously. It had it's ups and downs but overall it was fun which TV rarely is these days with the emphasis on "relevancy" and "ripped from the headlines". I watched the repeats on the Oxygen channel for a while but couldn't shake the drear of the series ending so I have been taking a break from the show. Lucy Lawless has a project in development with the WB. Here's hoping we get her back on on TV screens:

untitled lucy lawless project (wb)

Lucy Lawless has signed a talent deal (9/10/03) with the WB.

[Cicca]

Ooh, thanks for those links!



Vivan Darkbloom is just fantastic.



And yes, mentioning that it's an alt/subtexty thing is good. Xena and Gab love each other. Most definitely.

Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive?

[bla bla bla]

xena is still showing weekdays on bravo, as is hercules.

"I'M DEATH" said Death.

[WebWarlock]

Those blogs are kinda neat.



I might have gotten more enjoyment out of them, but I am too long removed from Xena fandom.



Of course I do enjoy going over the Nut Forum. Reminds me of home!



At least Tapert admits he screwed up, and let's face it, if anyone is likely to come back from the dead, it's Xena.



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[Gatito Grande]

Xena re-runs are on Oxygen, Herc re-runs are on SciFi (to the best of my knowledge, those are exclusive contracts).



GG Still faithfully getting my daily XWP fix Out



Tim, are you saying the Nut Forum is still around? Cuz I thought that went dark w/in weeks of the finale!

[emma peel.]

Ah, the NutForum. I lurked there for a couple of years, that's how I found out about the Willow/Tara soon-to-be-relationship.

I remember you, Strapping Lass, also zwolf, who was totally awesome.

Mods, you guys do a great job here compared to the crap and divisiveness that wound up happening over at the NutForum.

However, I digress. I find that I can still watch some of the earlier eps of Xena with great fondness. I picked up on the subtext, intentional or not, by about the third episode. I know it helped having an out lesbian, Liz Friedman, as one of the writers.

You could tell there was genuine affection between Lucy and Renee.

I think one of my favorite eps was "Is There A Doctor In The House," where Xena thinks Gabby dies, and just goes to pieces as she tries (successfully) to revive her. I bawled like a baby during that scene, and realized how good an actress Lucy can be.

I was sooo pissed at Tapert, and refused to watch the final ep, but at least he apologized, and I don't think he's an asshole anymore, like some nameless schmuck we all know.

Janice

Oh, and yeah, Hudson Leick as Callisto. Hubba hubba. The absolute bestest, hottest villain I loved to hate..

[WebWarlock]

i have to admit I did enjoy Calisto's eventual redemption. I forget the name of the episode, but it is the one where Gabby and Xena are angels and then devils then human again.



Cheesy as an original Chicago Deep Dish yeah, but I liked it. Plus I have this way wierd fetish for girls with wings. Which my wife is happy about cause, hey how often do you see that on the street. Though there was that Victoria Secret's ad campaign... Sorry. Went to a drooly place.



But I have always been a big fan of Hudson Lieck. Hell I even watched her in the god awful "Knightrider 2000" that was out before Xena.



Yeah Tapert was a dick, but he made nice and I do get the feeling that he learned something.



Ares was great too. Very sad about Kevin Smith. I know guys who met him at game cons, said he was the coolest guy to be around.



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[Gatito Grande]

. . . I'll be the one (sort of).



I'm of the extremely rare group of HardCore Nutballs who didn't hate Friend in Need. I mean, I hate what happened---how the story ended. But that's not the same thing as hating the show itself (does that make sense?).



Maybe it's because I understand what Tapert was trying to do: create an epic end to an epic story, and in epics, the hero often dies. More controversially, I think there was a second significant factor: Lucy genuinely wanted OUT of the role, on a permanent basis---as permanent as she could be 1) at that moment and 2) w/ a character who has quite the *habit* of returning from the dead.



While this could just be the opinion of the typical wanker-fan, I think that Lucy Lawless would be a really fun person to know. How could you not love someone who, having created the Dyke-Ikon role of a lifetime, then comes down to Meow Mix (NYC lesbian bar) to par-tay w/ her most devoted (and drooling!) fans? A gratuitous class act.



Having said that, I think the role burdened her in ways we can't begin to imagine, and that she was desperate to put an end to that burden---even if it meant pissing a lot of people off (I really think that neither she nor Rob anticipated the level of pain, however). The stories she tells about the crushing level of fatigue she felt from doing the role (probably greater than any TV show made in America). She did this once *while pregnant* and knew she wanted more kids: this may have prompted her to go w/ a "Kill her already!" 'tude. Then there's the security thang: maybe U.S. celebs are used to traveling w/ "entourages" and having huge levels of security-people padding their every move. But Our Kiwi Cutie was unprepared for this kind of (literal) hero-worship, and some of that "worship" was by admittedly unstable people (as anyone who ever spent time in the Nut Forum knows).



Feh, I'm just rationalizing the rationales. Looking at Friend in Need as a creative effort, doesn't it, on balance Completely Rock until the final few minutes? If Gabby had dumped that ash in the Fountain of Strength (and I honestly scream "Dump it, Gabby! Hurry up and pour it in!" *every time* I watch FIN. I always think she might, "this time" ), and Our Girlz had ridden off into that setting sun together, would there have been more than a few Nut Forum nuts who would have trashed it otherwise? I mean, those "last few minutes" are hardly a quibble, but I don't think that she *completely* obliterate the two hours (to say nothing of 6 years!) before.



Not there aren't things that couldn't have better: the notion of introducing a "new" character in the series finale (Akemi), the confusion of motivations (and cosmologies, as always on this show ) of "Yodoshi," the shoddyness of Xena's guilt-trip over what was (at worst) an accident, and at best 40,000 woman-hating b*stards who had it coming (in Higuchi, from the drunken/grieving fire-breathing Xena of x number of "winters ago"), and that tasteless "Get it, we're in JAPAN!" mushroom cloud in Xena's last (mortal) battle (not to mention the outfit: I know LL kept wanting to show her "Look how fast I got my figure back, post-baby" abs, but they might have just as well written "Commit seppuku *here*!" on it ).



But really, all of the above ARE quibbles, compared to the wonderfulness of this epic tale . . . up to the last few minutes. (OK, one slightly-more-than-a-quibble: both X and G use the word "friend" to each other, several times. If ever there were occasions for "my love" , these were it! )



If I start listing all the things I loved, I'll be here all night: just about *every* scene w/ Renee (no surprise there! GG's All-Time Favorite ): from her first kendo spar, all the way to her throwing and catching the chakram (the group I first watched the finale w/, on the day it came over the satellite, broke into *thunderous* applause at that moment), Renee just owned it. The look she (Gabrielle) gives Xena when X starts her "lemme tell you about last time in 'Japa'" (I always translate this look as "Yes, Xena, please tell me about YET ANOTHER OF YOUR OLD GIRLFRIENDS: is there No End to this list?!" ), the "If I had 30 seconds to live" scene (both LL and ROC rock here).*All* of her battle scenes (love those "frock tarts": the wicker armor, the blue samurai kimono, and don't forget the tattoo!): running "what would you do?" through the forest, finding the bloody chakram, when she lays down the law as the Great Wall of Gabby "Hirugata, don't you come near her!" , "Give me her head!" (I still *love* this line, although I don't think most of the other FINale watchers w/ me appreciated me busting out laughing then), talking trash to the "Psuedo-rai" ("You're not a samurai, you're a fraud. You couldn't have killed her if she hadn't wanted you to!"), taking him out w/ one strike (and the way she shakes off her kitana right afterward: the perfect 'tude of dismissing the Little Putz), taking out the Psuedo-rai again (after having played hackey-sack w/ Xena's urn!), and of course . . . Swapping the Spit of Strength!!!



In comparison, LL didn't have as many great moments, but what she lacked in quantity, she made up for in that last battle: I think that may have been the greatest action-sequence in TV *ever* (when she takes that arrow in the gut, I always double over myself: like only lower). And seeing Lucy in a red kimono is never a bad thing!



So . . . then there's the end. What can I say? But while it's a *horrible* ending, it's not a bad ending: you know what I mean? The ending does make sense (in terms of the epic, NOT the f*cked up cosmology---but that was always XWP's weak-spot. Part of the problem of putting every religion and mythology in the world into a blender, but still substandard. FIN's cosmology was even worse than Fallen Angel's: sorry, Tim, but that ep *sucked*). The Hero (X) is Dead, Long Live the Hero (G). Yes, it made sense.



. . . but just not the Best Sense. Not the Truest, the Highest. Xena herself said it several times (inc. in Legacy, which I just saw again a day or two ago: "Everyone has something that transcends the 'greater good' and you [G] are that for me." ANY ENDING THAT LEFT X AND G APART (and *nobody* bought the Ghost Xena thing) WAS NOT THE TRUEST ENDING. Because in the end, it wasn't about a hero whose "courage will change the world", it was about a RELATIONSHIP that changed (rocked!) the world of everybody privileged to see it. More important than "the hero w/ a dark past, on a mission of atonement" (I think I may have heard that on another show ), more important than the young bard grown into the mature warrior (Student becomes Master!), more important *even* that both of these two roles were women, was that you combine ALL of the above, and you have 'em fall totally, completely, madly (if subtextually---drat) In Love w/ Each Other. They love each other to death (at times), but then they love each other back to life . . .



GG . . . except for that One, Last, Damn Time. Nevertheless: What a Show! What a Love! Ay-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy!!! Out



What a freakin' long post. Once I get rollin' on Xena . . .

[Cicca]

Wow! I agree with you. At the time, FIN just crushed me, but I can still watch it and I still love the series as a whole. And even bits of that ep are fantastic. Akemi, not so much. Yuck. I have a sense of what RT was trying to do and hey, he gave it his all. Now I just really really really want them to make a movie and fix that ghost thing. Argh!



Xena and Gab....

Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive?

[Alirissa]

A couple of people mentioned that Rob Tapert has commented that he "screwed up" the finale by killing Xena. Just wondering what he said to make amends.

[sam7777]

Rob Tapert at least was willing to admit that he made a mistake with FIN. He said something like I thought some people wouldn't like it but I never thought it would make them hate a show they once loved

Quote:

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I understand what Tapert was trying to do: create an epic end to an epic story

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I understood that as well but still didn't like it or think it was well done. It would have worked better for me if she had died for one of her prior sins like destroying Callisto's villiage rather than inventing another "untold" tale. I enjoyed Xena back in the day and was watching the Oxygen channel repeats for a bit but I feel like I'm done with the show and the DVD sets haven't tempted me. The ending took away the bulk of my enthusiams for the show. What I would like to see are some follow on movies that pretty much reverse FIN and bring Xena and Gabrielle back together.

Edited by: sam7777  at: 12/18/03 3:49 pm

[Cicca.]

That's more like what happened with me. Um, and most kittens I think! That Willow and Tara crap they pulled just really soured the whole thing.

I still have a big love for Xena. And RT certainly messed up by alienating so many fans with that finale. Silly guy.

[Hemiola]

This time of the year always reminds me of the "Solstice" episode with the toymaker named "Santocles"



Actually, at the time of the first airing, I was kind of surprised they didn't name the character "Nicholas", since the name was originally Greek .

[Warduke.]

Lucy was on ET tonight...

Lucy Lawless: Back in Leather!

December 29, 2003

Lucy Lawless, best known for playing a certain warrior princess named Xena, is heading to the big screen with the teen romp 'Eurotrip.' And once again, she's donning some naughty leather gear to play the owner of a sex club!

On tonight's ET, we're on the set of Lucy's new flick to see just how she prepared for the daring part.

"I didn't talk to anybody," she confesses. "I did have to go shopping, however. There's a part of London I call 'Rubberland' because there's all these shops where you can buy everything made from rubber. So I went to this dodgy part of London. It was quite an education ... shopping for latex clothing was quite a departure for me ... for a housewife."

The hilarious pic hits theaters February 20th and revolves around four recent high school grads who embark on a trip to Europe to meet up with one of the foursome's German pen pal. The friends make stops in London, Paris and Amsterdam on their way to Berlin and run into a few mishaps -- including Lucy's club!

"In this movie I'm playing a woman who runs a chicken ranch," says Lawless. "It's actually a bordello of sorts. So one of our young heroes finds himself in very hot water when he comes to my club."

Can she elaborate? "Things get too wild to describe on ET," she says. "It's a very funny, very naughty movie and I'm thrilled to be a part of it."

The comedy also stars Matt Damon and Michelle Trachtenberg.

For more on Lucy and her leather-wearing role, check out tonight's ET!

Here's a link to the trailer

And here's a pic of Lucy in the movie.

She looks damn good!

[urnofosiris]

Err which one is Lucy? I read about this movie, it sounds like fun. I am curious to see how Europe will be depicted and whether they will grace Amsterdam with a visit.

[Gatito Grande]

[Dr.G: LL's Eurotrip character is "Madame Van Der Sexx." I'm pretty sure she's in the Red Light district of Am'dam! ]



Now that The Lord of the Rings movie saga is complete, I think it would be fun to ID all the XWP characters that we spy in any of the LOTR films (and those lovable Kiwis who play them: you can get the XWP cast lists over at the ep guide section of Whoosh! http://www.whoosh.org).



I'll start:



Probably the most obvious is



Karl Urban -



XWP: "Caesar, Julius Caesar" (starting in Destiny, and in numerous eps); "Cupid" (in For Him the Bell Tolls), and "Mael" (the Ishmael doppelganger in Altared States)



LOTR: "Eomer," Prince of Rohan, in Two Towers and ROTK



Other who get top billing:



Marton Csokas -



XWP: "Krafstar" (aka "The Deliverer," in The Deliverer, briefly reprised in The Bitter Suite), "Borias," Evil Xena's Warlord-Lover (and father of her son, Solan: starting in The Debt and in numerous eps) and "Lord Belloch," Borias' adult son, in Last of the Centaurs



LOTR: "Celeborn," Elf-King of Lothlorien (really more "Galadriel's Consort" if you ask me!), in Fellowship and ROTK



Craig Parker -



XWP: "Prince Sarpedon" in For Him the Bell Tolls, "Ballerophon," a baddie, *not* the mythic Greek hero, in To Helicon and Back



LOTR: "Haldir," elf-warrior of Lothlorien, in Fellowship and Two Towers (Was he in ROTK? I didn't see him)



(Heh-heh: look at For Him the Bell Tolls: Eomer and Haldir had fought on the same side before!)







OK, that takes care of those w/ their names highlighted (in LOTR). Now we have to look more closely!





Cameron Rhodes -

XWP: "Eldon" (the other con man) in King Con

LOTR: Don't blink! He plays the hobbit who rats out Frodo's residence to the Nazgul in Fellowship



Bruce Hopkins -

XWP: I remember him as "Rahl" (sp?), birthfather of the kidnapped girl in Daughter of Pomira. Can anyone name any of his other XWP roles? I'm sure there were others.

LOTR: a leading Rohirrim in ROTK. Was he in Two Towers also? Seems likely.



Ian Hughes -

XWP: "Melas," father of a child murder by Callisto, in (well) Callisto, and "Mac" (described by Whoosh! as "rabid Joxer fan") in Send in the Clones

LOTR: a pleasant surprise to spot him as a soldier of Gondor in ROTK



Well, that's all for now. What other Xena characters have you seen in LOTR?



GG Can't forget the Inestimable Ngila Dickson, the "Head Frock Tart" (costumer) the first 4 seasons of XWP, before she got drafted to do the same on LOTR. Do I smell Oscar? Out