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Postby xita » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:13 pm

I hate to say I love trashy celebrity gossip. Let's dish about the famous people. If it is about gay people, remember there's a Famous Queer Folk - The Gossip/Rumor thread



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Let's start with Mel Gibson. I must admit I am rejoicing at seeing his true nature come to life. One thing is to get caught from drunk driving. It's another thing altogether to rant like a crazy man. I suspected he was anti-semitic, we knew he was a homophobe, but the man is crazy. Here's what he allegedly said. Here's his apology which essentially confirms all the things he allegedly said. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy really.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:34 pm

Well this is not gossip now is it, this is the truth. He decided to drink, he then decided to get behind of the wheel of car drunk and drive it. No ´disease´ made him do it. They say that kids and drunks speak the truth don´t they and I tend to believe the latter at least is true. I have been drunk a few too many times, never did it make me get into a car and act like a racist, but maybe some evil Jew slipped some Sodium Pentothal into his booze. They don´t just start all the wars in the world you know.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby Hemiola » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:48 pm

I remember how during a lame interview on ABC the correspondent asked him about his membership in a "breakaway" sect of Catholicism. Gibson rather blandly explained that his "sect" simply preferred saying Mass in Latin (in fact, the Church considers his sect to be schismatic; they do not accept any of the reforms of Vatican II).

If he likes Latin so much, he should have remembered this old saying: IN VINO VERITAS :lol :lol :lol
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby DaddyCatALSO » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:16 am

Having been around more drunks than I'v e wanted to in my life, I for one feel that the personality doesn't change from what they are sober.
I've supported Mel in the past when I've felt he was right, and haven't when I've felt differently, and I'll probably keep the same attitude, but this shows something.
But I won't get into the general subjefdct of prejudices....
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby Culzean » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:21 am

Alcohol doesn’t put thoughts into your head. It doesn’t create impulses that were never there before. What it does is release your inhibitions, which can cause you to say and do things you normally wouldn’t but certainly wanted to.

What I find even more disturbing then Mel’s behavior is that of the police department. If they don’t want to charge him with resisting arrest and verbally abusing their officers, I guess that’s their (very questionable) call. But to try to alter the arresting officers report… There is no justification for that. Talk about preferential treatment.

I can’t imagine how many people there are in LA right now who are saying, “See? We told you!”
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby FineyMcFine » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:51 am

You know what I don't get? Reportedly, Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster are really good friends and have been ever since they worked together on Maverick. Why on earth is she friends with him if he's such a disgusting homophobe?
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby xita » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:03 am

Is Jodi gay? I am only joking really but she's never said she is so why shouldn't she be friends with a homophobe. I have no idea how she feels about herself and her homosexuality. Either that or he can behave and be charming superficially. I doubt Jodi and mel continue to hang out.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby db » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:32 pm

I'm really really tired of him pretending to not *really* be an anti semite. OK? I mean he's a homophobe and a jerk and an anti semite - so I don't like the guy (I figure it's fair since he *hates* at least two unchangable things about me)... the dude needs to quit *lying* about it.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby sam7777 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:56 pm

I must admit I am rejoicing at seeing his true nature come to life.

Yeah color me unstunned. I figured this out ages ago with his "Jewish people are out to get me" tripe during the passion publicity tours. As other's more witty than me have said:
"en vino veritas"

Having Gay (or Jewish) friends does not prevent one from being a homophobe or an anti-semite unhappily. (btw Jodi Foster has not come out and thus cannot yet be confirmed as gay) One of the defenses that Gibson (his publicist actually) used during the passion press junkets is that he has Jewish friends. I'm sure Cheney has gay friends to go with his gay daughter but that doesn't stop him from trying to take away rights from gay people by supporting the Federal Marriage Amendment. And there is a difference between friends, professional acquaintances (what Jodi prolly is to Mel) and employees (his publicist).

Here's an article with his comments on gays:
http://www.qrd.org/qrd/media/people/1995/mel.gibson.antigay.history-wockner-06.02.95
Read and decide. I think Mel Gibson is an homophobe and anti-semite and won't watch his shite anymore.

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What do people espousing the Jewish faith have anything to do with Mr Gibson's decision to drink and drive?
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby Knock yourself out » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:48 am

Regarding Jodie Foster and Mel Gibson - I thought this was interesting: LA Times or BBC News
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby Candleshoe » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:28 am

I'm wondering whether Jodie's response reflects an ability to accept and care for all kinds of people, rather than an agreement with his behaviour or opinions. Obviously, I'm biased and have no idea what her motives actually are. But....

There is nothing more satisfying than being an Exception To Their Rule around a homophobe, is there? Proving them wrong every time they spend time with us is only possible if we spend time with them, after all....:-D

I would imagine that Jodie's profession is one in which, in public at least, it is far better to be blandly supportive, than vociferously condemnatory. Being nice to people on the way up must be essential in a business where you never know who you will need on the way down.

And Jodie's never been particularly publically passionate about anything, has she? Apart from her privacy, of course....
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby xita » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:34 am

I hate to say it but her support of him makes me think less of her. Alcoholism can only exacerbate a problem, it can't create it. I am sorry but the "some of my best friends are..." argument holds no merit with me.

And I feel sad for Jodi who feels she has to stand up against homophobe rather than stand up for homophobia. For someone who wants her privacy she sure is speaking up about her private friends at the wrong time. I have nothing but respect for her as an actress, but bleh.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby umgaynow » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:45 pm

Of course Mel isn't worried about his career...as we all know there are no gays or Jews in the entertainment industry! :rolleyes

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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby WebWarlock » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:08 am

As much as I hate admit it, I seriously doubt this whole deal will hurt his career. Jodie defends him, the rabbis seem will to forgive, ar least forget, and all he needs to do know is go on Oprah. Rright now I am think most jewish leaders have other things to worry about than the drunk tirade of one bigot.

I am afraid for all this noise, this whole thing will be forgotten by Fall. And if his next movie brings in a ton of cash (as his movies often do) then it will never even be brought up again. Sorry, but it's all about the money in Hollywood.

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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby sam7777 » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:56 pm

As I said before, unhappily having Gay (or Jewish) friends does not prevent one from being a homophobe or an anti-semite:
Gibson's Defenders Aren't Hearing Him Right
Mel Gibson's defenders don't understand the essence of Jew hatred, that it's a projected fantasy, and that the Jews Gibson hates are not real Jews or real people, they're all the Jews he doesn't know; the Jews he likes are exceptions to a fantastic image of the world around which his entire personality and perilous state of mental equilibrium is wrapped. That Gibson's Jewish friends in Hollywood are nothing like the monster Jews of this exhausting fantasy has put the man in a psychological bind that only tequila can resolve. Some of his best friends are Jews, and one of their best friends is a Jew hater.


It's true that Hollywood would make a deal with the devil to make money but Gibson's career has been feeling the effects of his bigotry. ABC doesn't want to make a Holocaust mini-series with his company (though they may go on with the series once Gibson is out of the picture). All of Gibson's TV ventures have failed:
TV lacks passion for Mel Gibson
Accordingly, his production company has a relatively small but active TV arm, which long before the arrest was unfortunately dubbed Con Artists Productions. During the 2004-05 season, the company actually succeeded in landing three series during prime time, a remarkable achievement for any entity, especially one that had no prior episodic TV credits.

These days, though, Con Artists' offices are probably a suitably quiet refuge for, say, sleeping off a hangover. When ABC announced last week that it would pull the plug on a planned Holocaust-themed miniseries that Gibson would executive produce, it was widely perceived to be a (perhaps fleeting) indicator of the star's fallen stock in Hollywood. Given that a drunk Gibson is alleged to have informed a deputy that "the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," the network's decision may have deprived viewers of a fascinating alternate take on the commonly accepted history of World War II.
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In fall 2003, Gibson himself attended a meeting at ABC to pitch his family sitcom "Complete Savages," which was sold as a semiautobiographical, Bill Cosby-esque account of the star's joys and tribulations raising a large brood in real life.

Network officials said before the premiere that they hoped the star's involvement would stoke viewer interest, and indeed he was credited with directing the pilot and appeared in a walk-on role. But the series tanked anyway and was canceled after one season.

Gibson's two other TV projects from 2004-05, CBS' baseball drama "Clubhouse" and UPN's legal/family drama "Kevin Hill," suffered similar fates, although by all appearances he was much less actively involved in those projects.

So it is with much of what passes for Gibson's TV career. Notice that ABC never complained publicly about the slow pace of progress on the Holocaust project until after his Malibu meltdown — even though, according to a network spokeswoman, two years of "development" never yielded so much as a script.

Three shows cancelled in one season. You have to wonder.

Also despite it's success, Passion was snubbed at the Oscars. And I don't think Apocalyto, his next film will do very well for him or Disney if they distribute it. Though Disney says they will, it's telling that rumors of their shopping it around have come up. In this case, I'll bet that where there is smoke there's fire.
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Postby umgaynow » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:39 pm

I don't think it's nearly enough...after all, a bottle doesn't come with opinion inside of it...it just removes the filter that normally edits out what you really think...anyway, as little as it may be...I love that the rabbis decided to have him speak at the Yom Kippur (day of atonement) services... a mere teardrop in a vast oceans...but kinda clever I think

Anyway, I think he should have taken the hint when two people were struck by lightning (including Jim Caviezel who played Jesus) during filming of the Passion of the Christ...Mel's going to hay-ull! ;-)

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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby SySnootles » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:41 pm

I dunno... I know I'm going to be in the vocal minority here, but I believe that anyone has the right to believe whatever they want. If Mel wants to be an anti-semetic bigot, let him be an anti-semetic bigot. I don't like Adam Sandler and refuse to see any of his films, and most of his "core" fans annoy the bejeezus out of me. Does that make me a bigot? (I actually think in some ways it does)

Realistically, we're never going to live in a world, or even a society, where everyone is okay with everyone else. If Mel were shooting Jewish people or harming them in any tangible way, then I think there would be some cause for this uproar. I think driving drunk is much more terrible than being an anti-semetic idiot, but that part is completely glossed over.

If you want to look at how anti-semetism can actually be dangerous, you need look any further than the current media and its coverage on the Israel/Hezbollah war. That type of anti-semitism is much more harmful than a drunk moron shooting his mouth off.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby xita » Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:56 am

I completely disagree with you. If he was keeping his thoughts in his mind that would be one thing but when he speaks and promotes well that's quite another. Hate like his is what contributes to violence. I will disagree with you completely about the current coverage but that doesn't belong in this topic, there is a current events topic you can take that to.

I think many in this place understand the power of the media and how harmful it can be, check out the Cliche FAQ. Mel makes movies and one can't possibly think that his "art" is not tainted by his hate. The anti-semitism in The Passion of the Christ was dismissed by many because they didn't think Mel was anti-semitic. Well now that changes doesn't it and that movie affected and influenced many many people. It isn't harmless at all. This man was also in the process of producing a movie about the holocaust. What subtle jabs might he include in that.

It is naive to think that hate as long it doesn't translate to violence is ok. Look at the language you use, "I don't like Adamn Sandler." This is a disklike of a specific individual and in no way does that make you a bigot towards a specific group of people.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby SySnootles » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:34 am

You completely missed quite a few of my points, but I'm not going to rehash anything. I agree that we disagree, and that's okay with me.

My point is that Mel has every right to feel however he wants and think whatever he wants. That's one of the wonderful things about this country, and maybe the thing most important to preserve.

Does anyone really believe this PR machine that has been working overtime will "convert" Mel into an ex-antisemite? Personally I think he's just paying lip service to attempt to save his career. I find that dishonesty more disgusting than his anti-semitism. I would prefer to see him own up to his feelings rather than try to cover them up. I don't think he should be spouting his feelings from the highest mountain top, but if he really hates most Jews (I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about the "Hollywood" Jews, but the Israeli Jews), then he should fess up to it and not apologize for how he feels. If it's not how he really feels, then work towards being honest with himself.

Regarding the Adam Sandler thing, read what I said again, not just about him, but of his hard core fans. I don't wish any big-time violence on them, but that doesn't mean I'm not being a bigot. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with being a bigot, depending on what you're being bigotted about. Check out this definition...
Bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Looking at that, I'm a bigot about a lot of things, and proud of it.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby Hemiola » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:24 pm

No, SySnootles, one should never be proud of being a bigot. Look at the definition that you posted: a bigot is intolerant, and this is where the problems arise. You see, it is a serious mistake to assume that the (in)famous "slippery slope" doesn't exist--history has proven time and time again that it is awfully easy to go from "I don't like those____________" to "I really hate those damn______________" to "Let's get rid of all those damn__________" to "Let's KILL all those damn____________". All you need to do is fill in the blank.

Of course, Mel G has the right to be as bigoted as he wants. However, as a rich/famous media personality, he is a "person of influence" who has gotten away with a lot because of his (a) denying the true nature of his beliefs and (b) profitability. As Sam7777 pointed out, these factors are not going to work for him anymore.

Furthermore, I really don't see what you're getting at by trying to make some sort of distinction as to whether or not he hates "specific" groups of Jews ("Hollywood" or Israeli) or Jews in general. The point is the hatred, not who he hates. As to where it comes from, if you read the New York Times article on his father, or heard his father on the radio, it is abundantly clear where his beliefs find their source. His father is, purely and simply, a rabid anti-semite, who broke with the Catholic Church because he felt that the pronouncements of Vatican II were too tolerant toward Jews. Of course, the beliefs of anti-semites that Jews constitute some sort of cosmic danger to the world make little sense, considering that we are talking about one tenth of one percent of the world's population (there are approximately 14 million ethnically and religously identified Jews in the entire world!!!). As Jean-Paul Sartre pointed out in his famous essay on anti-semitism, if Jews, considering their tiny numbers, constitute such a danger, then they must be the smartest, strongest, bravest, most enterprising and energetic people on earth!
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby SySnootles » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:31 pm

I'm proud to be a bigot against people who use recreational drugs. I am proud to be a bigot against people who molest children. I'm proud to be a bigot about a lot of things. Intolerance doesn't mean hate. I will not tolerate certain types of behavior or certain actions/advances in my home. In my opinion, that's a necessary belief and conviction.

I still feel anyone has every right to not like whomever they want. Personally I really don't like those who follow the doctrine of radical Islam. Does that make me a bigot? Personally I think those who choose to follow the sect of any religion/culture which preaches and demands the annihilation of another culture/religion/whatever should be exterminated from the earth. (For the record, I do see the hypocracy in this statement, but the logic falls under the "Greater Good" arguement.) That probably makes me a bigot, and that's okay with me.

I am well aware of Gibson's father's beliefs and aware of Gibson's as well. I certainly don't agree with them, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to hold them.

"Discussing" things such as this are pointless on a message board, especially among people who have such opposing viewpoints. I still stand by my point that Mel Gibson (or whomever) has every right to not like whomever he doesn't want to. Just as the majority of the Kittens here have every right not to like Joss Whedon. That's all I'm trying to say.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby maudmac » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:43 pm

I don't think it's at all pointless to discuss these sorts of things on a message board, and I, for one, value discussions among people who don't agree. Besides being an opportunity to hear articulate points that are outside my comfort zone, it's much more interesting than discussing these things with people who are in complete agreement. Just speaking for myself on that issue.

General discussion of tolerance, intolerance, bigotry, anti-Semitism, etc., that doesn't relate to Gibson should probably go over to the Current Events/Issues thread, where there has been recent discussion of the Israel/Hezbollah issue, and so as to keep this thread mostly about entertainment gossip.

I've long despised Mel Gibson for many reasons and recent events with him can't really make me despise him more. I am quite shocked to see anyone in Hollywood defending him. It's one thing to care about a friend and support that friend, but when said friend is in hot water primarily for expressing a particular opinion, I think it would be wise to distance oneself from that opinion...unless one agrees with it...

I wish the fact that he was driving drunk and thus endangering the lives of who-knows-how-many people were more of an issue.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby urnofosiris » Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:51 am

I wish the fact that he was driving drunk and thus endangering the lives of who-knows-how-many people were more of an issue.


Agreed, I have not gone out of my way to read news about this outside of the board, but judging from what I heard on the news here and read in the paper, no one seems to be addressing that fact (other than mentioning he was driving under the influence) and I wonder whether he has apologized for acting like a could be murderer as ardently (or at all) as he has apologized for his hateful words. It seems like his ´genuine´ shame and guilt focusses on the issue that can cost him the most money and popularity.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby maudmac » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:32 am

He did apologize, yes. I know I read something a few days later where he thanked the police for stopping him and he acknowledged that he could've hurt/killed some people if he hadn't been stopped.

He also said he's not an anti-Semite and seemed to blame the alcohol for making him say those things, which is ridiculous, of course.
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby umgaynow » Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:35 pm

SySnootles wrote:I dunno... I know I'm going to be in the vocal minority here, but I believe that anyone has the right to believe whatever they want. If Mel wants to be an anti-semetic bigot, let him be an anti-semetic bigot. I don't like Adam Sandler and refuse to see any of his films, and most of his "core" fans annoy the bejeezus out of me. Does that make me a bigot? (I actually think in some ways it does)

Realistically, we're never going to live in a world, or even a society, where everyone is okay with everyone else. If Mel were shooting Jewish people or harming them in any tangible way, then I think there would be some cause for this uproar. I think driving drunk is much more terrible than being an anti-semetic idiot, but that part is completely glossed over.

If you want to look at how anti-semetism can actually be dangerous, you need look any further than the current media and its coverage on the Israel/Hezbollah war. That type of anti-semitism is much more harmful than a drunk moron shooting his mouth off.


Nope...refusing to see any of Adam Sandler's movies makes you a person of taste...I went to high school with the guy and I think he's a no talent pinhead too...only one of his movies I have ever seen was The Wedding Singer and that was only for Drew...
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby WebWarlock » Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:25 am

As you might have heard Haley Joel Osment was charged with DUI.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... i-news-hed

What isn't know is Osmet's on police tape rant about how all the worlds problems and wars are caused by those F***ing dead people, and the world would be a better place if it weren't for the dead people.

(hey someone was going to say it...)

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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby maudmac » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:32 pm

Oh, Tim...I don't want to laugh at that...I really don't...but...

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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby WebWarlock » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:19 am

Now THIS is funny.

Personally I can't stand Tom Cruise. Sure he might be a decent actor, but he such an idiot. And that Scientology thing? I could rant for DAYS on what idiots they are.

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Paramount concern: Cruise's behavior

Published August 23, 2006

Hollywood is a tolerant place. It will accept almost anything, except a bad balance sheet.

Ask Tom Cruise.

Drug and alcohol abuse, sexual infidelities, run-ins with the law, abhorrent beliefs--none of it keeps you from working in show business. Look at Woody Allen, Hugh Grant and Mel Gibson.

But Paramount Pictures is ushering Cruise's production company off its lot after 14 years and, according to Sumner Redstone, chairman of Viacom, the studio's parent, it's because Cruise has been, well, weird.

Truth be told, Cruise has been weird and expensive, and that's a lethal combo. So the star, who arguably has brought more money into Paramount than any other, is on the outs.

Redstone, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal posted online Tuesday, blamed Cruise's recent behavior for the performance of "Mission: Impossible III."

The fact that "Impossible" trilogy already might have exhausted itself apparently is not considered as big a factor as Cruise pummeling "Today" co-host Matt Lauer with Scientology's denunciation of antidepressant drugs and pouncing on Oprah Winfrey's couch to proclaim his love for Katie Holmes.

"As much as we like him personally, we thought it was wrong to renew his deal," Redstone told the Journal. "His recent conduct has not been acceptable to Paramount."

That's stunning, because being weird usually is considered a prerequisite for entry into the entertainment industry rather than a ticket out of it.

After all, if Hollywood suddenly rid itself of everyone who is weird, it would be like a neutron bomb went off. Structures would remain but the place would be a ghost town.

Of course, it's also possible Redstone finds something else disturbing, and it isn't weird.

The Los Angeles Times has reported "Mission: Impossible III" is likely to gross close to $400 million worldwide, with another $200 million in DVD cash, but Paramount probably will only break even because Cruise's take could be $80 million.

Cruise/Wagner Productions, Cruise's partnership with former agent Paula Wagner (wife of Cruise's current agent, Creative Artists Agency's Rick Nicita), has enjoyed an unusually lucrative arrangement with Paramount, through which it produces films for Paramount and other studios, some of which he stars in, some of which he doesn't.

This is no doubt in part because Cruise made tons of cash for Paramount with such hits as "Top Gun," "Days of Thunder" and "Mission: Impossible."

According to the Times, Paramount has a commitment to Cruise/Wagner of upwards of $10 million a year, though it's not known how much the company was actually spending. With current studio chief Brad Grey trying to rein in costs, the renewal offer was thought to be around $2.5 million for each of the next two years, closer to what fellow A-listers Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp get to underwrite their companies.

If Cruise was costly to Paramount, his behavior apparently made him costlier, according to Redstone.

Now Cruise/Wagner, which has a staff of about 10 people, will be vacating its two floors in the Lucille Ball Building. Wagner told Daily Variety the company is talking to others about distributing its films, which will be self-financed.

Some recent Cruise/Wagner efforts, such as "Elizabethtown" and "Narc," have not exactly done great business. But 2001's "The Others," a film on which Paramount passed, cost less than $18 million and brought in almost 12 times that for Miramax's Dimension Films, a tidy return.

If Paramount had been making money off Cruise, the Oprah couch thing and all that wouldn't be a big deal. It's always been more about dollars than sense in Hollywood.

To hear Redstone, however, a little Cruise control would have gone a long way.

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philrosenthal@tribune.com



Once again it is about the money.

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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby sam7777 » Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:32 am

Well no one here can deny Mr Gibson his first amendment right to spew hate. However, the first amendment cuts both ways. We all also have a right to speak out and criticize Gibson's views. Hate is horribly destructive. If people don't speak out against bigotry, it can become the law of the land ala Jim Crow and the Nuremberg laws. GLBT folks are tortured everyday by bigots. I certainly won't praise his or anyone's bigotry. I hope that someday there will be no bigotry. The world would be a much much better place without it.

As to Tom Cruise, :wtf
He's gone completely :crazy

Once again it is about the money.

Yep. It makes the world go round. I certainly won't helps the likes of Gibson to make more so he can have a venue to spew more hate.

ETA: And if more evidence is needed of Gibson's leanings:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7004613264
Mel Gibson Said To Be Linked To An Anti-Jewish Group
AND
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15327939.htm
Gibson declines rabbi's offer to apologize to Jews
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Re: Entertainment Gossip

Postby sam7777 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:11 pm

http://www.theeveningbulletin.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17110507&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=574088&rfi=6
So it wasn't just "the alcohol talking," after all.
The excuses that Mel Gibson's defenders trotted out after his antisemitic outburst are crumbling amid the disclosure of new evidence that Gibson - not just his father, but Mel himself - has been involved with a Holocaust-denial group in Australia.

The new evidence should be a wake-up call to the assorted celebrities who came to Gibson's defense after his declaration that "Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." ... Likewise, the actress Jodie Foster called Gibson "kind" and "honest," and "absolutely not antisemitic." There was, however, more than a touch of irony in her statements, since just last year, Foster also claimed, implausibly, that Nazi propaganda filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl was not really a Nazi. No matter how much she admires Gibson or Riefenstahl, Foster needs to judge them according to their actual statements and actions, not according to her fantasy image of them.

And make no mistake about it: Holocaust-denial is a form of antisemitism. It's not an alternative interpretation of history. It's an alternative way of attacking Jews. Indeed, the U.S. State Department officially considers Holocaust-denial to be antisemitism. Its January 2005 "Report on Global Anti-Semitism" includes nine separate references to incidents of Holocaust-denial among the report's listing of antisemitic incidents in various countries.
The real Mel Gibson has been exposed. There are no excuses left.

Check out the rest of the article at the link above.
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