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Re: Birds of Prey is Over

Postby Italiangirl » Mon Nov 25, 2002 10:11 pm

From Zap2it, as posted above:

Quote:
However, the network was encouraged by the young male viewers the show was able to draw in the face of competition from "The Bachelor" and "Fastlane."



"We believe 'Birds of Prey' proved there's a fantasy audience there and a male audience there," WB Entertainment president Jordan Levin says.




I cannot express how angry that makes me to read. It would seem that all of a sudden the young male (12-21) viewer demographic is THE audience to woo when it comes to TV shows, and I don't understand why.



This is going to be a big angry rant, so apologies to any male readers of this list...the lot of you are sensitive, intelligent, and not the people I am referring to when I say the following:



Boys in that age group are emotionally immature. It is mostly not their fault. They are driven by major chemical/hormonal changes going on in their bodies, and when seeking out entertainment sources, are most often NOT looking for quality plot development, fine acting talent, and well rounded, developed characters. They are looking for big explosions, cool special effects, and naked women. In my opinion, this is why most film/television critics who are successful are upwards of age thirty, instead of 17.



Now, take shows like Birds of Prey, Buffy and Charmed. The core, the foundation in which these shows SHOULD be (and once were) built on are strong, savvy, feminist, independent female characters. These kinds of women are mostly very threatening to the young male 12-21 demographic. Can someone tell me WHY WHY WHY a producer of a show would choose to alter the makeup of a show in order to cater to said demographic, rather than stay true to the orginial idea of strong female heroines, which would be appealing to both a younger and older demographic of female viewers. Is there some reason why the female viewing demographic is becoming LESS IMPORTANT than its male counterpart? Does anyone else recall that comment last year by Marti Noxon in which she cheerfully reported that although the ratings were clearly down in season six, there was a huge increase in the young male 18-21 audience of Buffy? Connect the dots here, people!



It reminds me of Sarah McLachlan talking about the Lilith Fair, and how she was told over and over by fincial backers that an all-female show would never sell tickets. For some reason, execs seem to think that a female driven show with truly empowered characters who have inner strength and are not overly sexualized and objectified are both non-interesting and non-marketable. Bullshit. Look at CJ Craigg on the West Wing; she is by far the most popular character on the show, if not on prime time television shows across the board. Likewise for Marg Helengenberg and Georgia Fox's characters on CSI. It makes me furious that the characters on all three of these female heroine shows don't have nearly the level of complexity, strength and dignity that other non feminist shows are allowed. Overcompensation much? Granted, each of the three shows, Buffy, BOP, and Charmed have had times when the female characters have been allowed to be true heroines, but time is passing and we know what happened to BOP, and Charmed and Buffy are on a downward spiral.



BOP fell victim to network execs/writers who sacrificed the strength of the characters in order to entice younger [male] audiences interested in sex appeal and a boyfriend. This needs to stop. I think I'm starting a new round of letter campaigning. I have to do something.





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GG's Thanksgiving

Postby BBOvenGuy » Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:17 pm

Unlike the people snoozing through Buffy, I had a good time watching the Gilmore Girls go through their four Thanksgiving dinners. The show felt a little disjointed through the first half, almost like it was a sketch comedy, but things got rolling when Sally Struthers's character started criticizing Rory for the wimpy kiss she gave Jess when they walked into Luke's. :)



Some interesting developments in this episode. Rory's applied to Yale, and she decided for herself to do it. Lorelai's reaction was even angrier than I would have expected. We've seen this before, where Rory decides something that's more in tune with her grandparents' thinking than with Lorelai's. Since we pretty much know that Yale is where Rory will end up, I think the most interesting thing to watch for is how Lorelai will come to accept it.



Meanwhile, now that Dean has lost Rory, he apparently has decided he doesn't have to be Mr. Nice Guy any more. The thing is, I watched the Dean/Jess confrontation and I couldn't help thinking, "Wow! Jess has won. Dean's calm exterior broke, and if he doesn't watch it he'll drive Rory away from him completely." The thing is, does Jess realize that he's won? That remains to be seen.



And of course there was Jackson and his buddies deep-frying everything in sight while Sookie got plastered, Kirk and his killer cat, and who could forget Lane's first kiss! All in all, a lot to be thankful for this week. :grin

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Re: GG's Thanksgiving

Postby Italiangirl » Wed Nov 27, 2002 2:46 am

Bob...here here! I thought this week was a great episode. I nearly snorted my eggnog through my nose when Jackson appeared in all his neanderthal glory in the doorway of their house, hoisting the turkey above his head like a prized kill. Suki getting plotzed was funny also, and I nearly lost it at the end when they were deep frying everything in sight and someone yelled "deep fry a shoe!" and they all chorused it happily.



As for the Lorelei Yale drama unfolding, I'm loving it. Their relationship is so complex anyway (Lorelei, Emily and Richard) I find myself at times rooting for one, then the other, then the other still. That is what quality screenwriting is all about. I was surprised Lorelei was able to calm down enough with Rory on the way home. At the beginning of that scene, she was clearly still mad. I would have liked to have seen a little more of her confronting Rory about keeping her other schools a secret. I thought that was out of character for Rory to have done. Everyone has backup schools. The Yale thing I could understand b/c of the earlier drama, but who cares about all those other schools? I wonder if maybe we're starting to see that a part of Lorelei really is living through Rory a little, and that is where some of this Harvard obsession is coming from.



Lane's first kiss....YAY! I'm so glad they are starting to develop her character, and also her relationship with MamaKim. I have to give major kudos to the boy, though, for doing five hours of hymns, Tofurkey (laughed my ass off at that one, too) and MamaKim's militant personality. I hope they keep developing this storyline. Lane is a senior this year, correct? It will be interesting to see what happens as she draws closer to graduation and chooses a college.



Finally, I'm really glad that CuteDean has left the building, and MeanDean has come to town. I have thought for a while now that CuteDean was entirely too perfect and boring. Was it me or did Jess look just a little scared at the end there when MeanDean made that comment about not having to be even remotely civil anymore. I forsee much more of this tension building throughout the season. I think CuteDean's calm exterior all this time has been something of a facade (remember how he was ready to kick some ass at Rory's Dance last year?) and a way to avoid his real feelings about the whole situation. I'm glad the writers are bringing back a little of the mysterious blue collar mechanic boy persona he started out with.

Edited by: Italiangirl  at: 11/27/02 12:48:30 am
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Re: GG's Thanksgiving

Postby urnofosiris » Wed Nov 27, 2002 2:51 am

Silly question, but I am too lazy to look it up, is Gilmore Girls in it's second season in the US? I would not mind it if I did not have to wait too long for Rory and the borefriend to break up.

They are showing the first season here and so far I have watched about half of the eps they have aired so I don't watch religiously, but I have enjoyed all the eps I have seen. I love the often times wicked snarky sense of humour most of the characters have. It is exactly like the way I interact with most of my friends and colleagues, hee.

Edited by: DrG at: 11/27/02 12:53:41 am
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Re: GG's Thanksgiving

Postby VampNo12 » Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:10 am

DrG, GG's is now in it's third season in the US. And I agree that I too was so sick of "boring" Dean, so the new developments look quite intriguing!

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 11/27/02 1:10:59 am
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Re: Birds of Prey is Over

Postby justastraightdog » Wed Nov 27, 2002 10:56 am

FYI, from mediaweek:



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'Birds of Prey' Producer Questions Cancellation by The WB



A.J. Frutkin



NOVEMBER 26, 2002 -



Following the WB's unofficial cancellation last week of its Batgirl action-drama Birds of Prey, executive producer Brian Robbins remained silent. Until now, that is.



Robbins, who, along with Mike Tollin, oversees Birds of Prey, told Mediaweek that WB entertainment president Jordan Levin "didn't have faith in the show," and that Levin expressed "buyers' remorse" from the beginning.



"I think [Jordan] was afraid of the 'Batman' world being too dark for his air," Robbins said. "He was never a huge fan of the show."



Airing Wednesdays at 9 p.m., Birds premiered on October 9 to huge ratings for the WB, scoring a 5.0 in the key adults 18-34 demographic, and a 3.9/10 in adults 18-49 with 7.5 million viewers. But the show's numbers soon spiraled downward. During a conference call Monday discussing the WB's November sweeps performance, Levin described Birds' demise as a "failure of execution," adding that the network was unable to find the right show runner to pair with Birds creator--and first-time series writer -- Laeta Kalogridis.



Robbins agreed, and said Kalogridis "might have been in over her head." Robbins also blamed ABC's The Bachelor for Birds' decline. But he added, "if I was running the network, I would have tried to figure out a way to survive until after The Bachelor, and then give it a chance."



Despite Birds' failure, the WBTV-based Tollin/Robbins Prods. is hardly struggling. Sophomore drama Smallville is a bonafide hit for the WB, and Robbins remains high on TRP's Amanda Bynes comedy What I Like About You. They're also producing the WB's midseason martial-arts drama The Black Sash.



Created by Robert Kamen (The Karate Kid), The Black Sash stars Russell Wong as an ex-cop-turned-bounty hunter, who opens up a martial arts school. Wong gets involved in his students' lives, and visa-versa, which was the appeal for Robbins. "We've always wanted to do a 21 Jump Street for the WB," he said, referring to Fox's young-skewing cop drama.



The series likely will launch in March. Levin suggested it might air in the Sunday 9 p.m. slot, following Charmed. Advertisers already are voicing approval. "It feels like a good fit on Sundays," said Laura Caraccioli, vp/director of Starcom Entertainment.



Robbins said Birds' fate will have no impact on his relationship with the WB. In fact, he added that TRP has three shows in development for Fall 2003 at the WB and seven more at the four major networks. And he seems well aware that failure is just part of the business. "As you put more shows on the air, you're apt to find more disappointment," he said.



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Too dark? Well, if BoP was too dark for The WB, we can at least hope for a quick cancellation of its replacement. ;)



Italiangirl, "well rounded, developed" - well, actually, that is what we boys are looking for.

SCNR.



More seriously: Emotionally immature, hormonal driven young male viewers are more attractive for advertisers, because they are easier to manipulate. Would need some male empowerment to get even. ;)

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Re:Gilmore Girls

Postby seurat » Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:15 pm

Allow me to add my huzzahs of praise and thanks for the latest GG episode. It was fun to see Paris and Madeline/Louise again, Paris was great trying to force her way into volunteering - I'm guessing they refused her as much because they know who they're dealing with, and not because they were full up for volunteers - and that Madeline is planning to get into a university, somehow Yale seems an impossibility but i'd love it if they could keep her around. And Michel was lurking about this week too which is always a plus.

I've never been much of a Kirk fan but I loved his part this week, the Cat Kirk, Human Kirk bit was great. I also thought Jess looked scared of Dean at the end and probably with good reason. We haven't seen the last of that, and I agree that it's good to see Dean reveal his anger. I also like Lorelai's scene with him in the store.

Yay for Lane and her kiss. Her Mom is a priceless character,and her part is perfecty written so she doesn't become a cartoon. There was a lot going on in this episode, with the four dinners on top of everything else, but they pulled it off. Four stars for sure.

As for BOP I'll wait until after I watch tonight's episode before switching gears into serious grumble mode.

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Birds of Prey 11/27

Postby BBOvenGuy » Thu Nov 28, 2002 11:11 am

Well, it just figures, doesn't it? The very next episode after the Birds of Prey cancellation announcement turns out to be one of their best.



Of course the folks at the WB are just as guilty of putting bald-faced lies in their promos as the people at UPN are. The trailer for this episode implied that Batman would make an appearance, and of course he never did. What we did see, though, was a good mix of action and drama, with all three of the main characters involved.



My one complaint about the episode is that I was expecting a plot twist that never materialized. The story centered around Barbara accidentally killing the thief Lady Shiva eight years earlier by blowing up the building she was in. We're told that instead of killing Lady Shiva, Barbara actually killed Lady Shiva's 15-year-old sister. Lady Shiva turns out to be Helena's best friend from high school, who has been gone since before Helena's mother died. Now here's where it gets complicated - Helena was 16 when her mother died, which means the friend who is Lady Shiva had to have been 15 or 16 when they last saw each other. I kept expecting a revelation that it really had been Lady Shiva that Barbara killed before, and that this new Lady Shiva - the friend of Helena's - was in fact the sister, taking the Lady Shiva name and persona in order to exact her revenge. It would have made more sense, but it never showed up. Given what we've heard about the behind-the-scenes trouble the show has been having, I can't help wondering if that was the original story and someone changed it without thinking at some point.



Meanwhile, we also discovered that New Gotham High School has some lesbians who neither died nor turned evil and started ripping people's skin off. What a concept... :rolleyes It was a fun little revelation at the end of the episode - and it made up for the evil murdering gay baseball player we got on Law & Order later that night.

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Re: Birds of Prey 11/27

Postby seurat » Thu Nov 28, 2002 4:43 pm

There was an article in the New York Times a while ago that involved three tv network executives in a roundtable discussion talking about their jobs and how they make their decisions. One of the comments that stuck with me related to cancelling shows and that they have an advantage over the viewers in that they have seen the episodes that are in the pipeline as it were, waiting to be shown. If those eps are trainwrecks then they have no hesitation in cancelling the series knowing that there is no hope of it getting better in the short term at least.

So did last night's episode of BOP look like a trainwreck to you? I thought , as Bob wrote, that it was one of their best. The age guestion of Lady Shiva was an obvious error, but it didn't detract from the story. I liked the balance between action scenes and character development. Barbara's regret over the death of Shiva's sister was believable and well played and I liked the action as well, even the destruction of the building was much better done than a similar scene on a show that we won't name on Tuesday night. And as a former comic book geek I appreciated that they named the streets where the explosion occured Adams and O'Neil. Dinah's new friend being revealed as lesbian, and not evil or mad, was a pleasant surprise too. I really enjoyed it, wish there was a lot more to come.

Finally, ANGEL? Their great replacement show is Angel? Mindboggling.





Edited by: seurat at: 11/28/02 2:46:13 pm
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Gilmore

Postby PandoraSpocks » Thu Nov 28, 2002 5:28 pm

Being a Canadian Kitten, I didn't get to see 'Gilmore Girls' til Wednesday. It was good, glad a show like this is out there

Tara: "I am, you know" Willow: "What?" Tara: "Yours" (Hearts a Flutter)



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Re: Birds of Prey 11/27

Postby Kalita » Thu Nov 28, 2002 8:13 pm

Finally got to see my tape of this. The lesbians at the end were indeed an awesome surprise (and yay on Dinah for instant understanding and support).



I was also expecting that twist, Bob, and it's possible it got lost in the shuffle of this ep - it was apparently originally slotted for #4 on the roster, then they moved it up and retooled a bunch of dialogue. the twist may easily have been in there.



Well, I'll be watching the rest of the run, too bad it's over. I was even getting very used to the theme music...

"...you can make those two characters as dewey-eyed in love and it would never be too much."

-Chris Golden, on W/T

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Re: Birds of Prey 11/27

Postby Italiangirl » Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:54 am

I'm on board with everyone's comments about BOP this week, but I also want to add that I thought for the first time that the actresses all three had really good chemistry with one another, and that there was some slashy subtext going on. Or, as the folks over at Television Without Pity cheerfully refer to it, the HoYay.



Moments of note:



Helena telling Barbara she was not allowed to commit suicide and then bitching her out for using the neural thingy, stating that in the past Barbara had said it hurt like hell to use and could make her worse. In this moment I was finally able to see an onscreen history between the characters. Ashley Scott's delivery of those lines was great, her voice was wavering without being melodramatic, and her love of Barbara and fear of losing her was palpable and real. HoYay!



Helena getting down on her knees in front of Barbara and begging her to tell her what was going on, and then Barbara's tearful explanation of things/Helena's words of comfort. I just about melted when I saw Helena get down on her knees like that. Hoyay!



Helena at the end when she said the line "Barbara I saw you walking." Her tone of voice was one part pride, one part respect and wonder at Barbara's abilities as a scientist, one part shared joy over the moment, and one part big love. Yes, I turned into a puddle on the floor. HoYay!



On a serious note, I've been reading the slash fic list, and pretty much everyone besides me and one other person ships Helena with Barbara. I've not been able to see it. Thus far on the show they have had more of a mom/daughter thing going, IMHO, but tonight they were like old, dear friends, and for the first time I got a glimpse of that ship in all its potential for glory. *Italiangirl sighs dreamily, just thinking about all the fun birdslash that will crop up from tonight's episode*



Moving on, how about all the scenes with Sandy and Helena where they kept leaning into each other's faces and laughing as they were talking, and also the few moments when they were holding hands as they stood around. HoYay!



Finally, the scene at the end with Dinah and Gabby. Well done, IMO. I loved that Dinah was cool and there was no big "oh, I'm okay with you being gay" thing. Dinah reacted just as naturally and happily as she would have if Gabby had announced she was with another boy. It was as it should have been. Props to the writers and to Rachel Skarsgard for her delivery. Also, I think that just for a moment there you could see Dinah mulling over the possibilities in her head as Gabby walked away, lol. HoYay!

Edited by: Italiangirl  at: 11/28/02 10:57:19 pm
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Re: Birds of Prey 11/27

Postby Dave V » Fri Nov 29, 2002 7:21 am

I finally watched my tape of this ep.



Interesting comments, all.



When I first saw previews of this ep, with Batgirl on her feet going to a mano-a-mano showdown, I thought this might have undermined everything they've done with the character of Oracle. I was very pleasantly surprised. It turned into a great examination of Barbara - no she's not the hero she once was, she's something different, and better.



Helena's lines were delivered very well, and rang most true in her confrontation with Barbara after the Batgirl/Shiva contretemps.



Gotta chime in, I loved that Dinah's friend is out and not evil or murderously insane.



I will miss this show. They seem to have hit their stride.

Edited by: Dave V at: 11/29/02 5:22:52 am
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New Birds of Prey Campaign launched

Postby Italiangirl » Fri Dec 06, 2002 1:13 pm

Hey.



Just wanted to point out to any Birds of Prey fans that the folks over at Birdsofpreyonline have launched a brand new campaign in their efforts to save the show.



They've initiated an action calling for fans of the show to buy a BOP or Batman related comic and send it to various bigwigs at the WB, with a note requesting that WB either not cancel, or sell the show to another interested network.



I think that's a really fitting, appropriate action, and I'll be participating. For all it's flaws, I don't want to see the show go off the air. Even with all of its flaws, I find it to be much more empowered than Buffy dreams of being right now.



Anyway, here is the link to the campaign page. www.birdsofpreyonline.com/campaign/



I applaud the efforts of the fans putting it together.

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Re: New Birds of Prey Campaign launched

Postby BBOvenGuy » Fri Dec 06, 2002 7:56 pm

According to Wanda's latest column, NBC President Jeff Zucker is reconsidering his decision to cancel Providence. So who knows? Maybe Birds of Prey can be pulled back from the brink as well...

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Re: New Birds of Prey Campaign launched

Postby justastraightdog » Fri Dec 06, 2002 8:20 pm

Well, AFAIK Providence has won every night it was on...



Okay, I don't want to promote them because of the questions they had for :joss , but last time I checked their site, there was an interview with two of the BoP actresses scheduled:



Quote:
December 13th: Ashley Scott and Dina Meyer

From Birds of Prey: the women behind Huntress and Oracle! We'll be discussing their show, and much more!




oh, btw, this was the announcement 2 weeks ago:



Quote:
From Birds of Prey: the women behind Huntress and Oracle! We'll be discussing their new hit show, and much more!


The times they are a changin'... ;) They really have a bad timing with their guests, they always have to do some little changes in their announcements (as can be seen here - follow that link and read the thread, if you want to know WTH I'm talking about).

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GG, four meals

Postby NickDDP » Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:40 am

I just wanted to say that the GG Thanksgiving episode might have been more effective had they shown us all the food that they had to eat. Many of us might have been able to sympathize with them groaning from stuffed bellies. Of course at the end of the episode they happily make off with rolls from Luke. Star's Hollow Legs!



I also wanna say that I think GG is a far better series than anything else that I watch right now, and you know what I mean ;)



-- Nick



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Re: The Gilmore Girls and Other TV Alternatives

Postby BBOvenGuy » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:36 pm

Yahoo! has now changed its tune and is saying that tonight's Gilmore Girls is a rerun. I guess we'll find out tonight.

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Re: The Gilmore Girls and Other TV Alternatives

Postby DRUSILLA LOVER » Tue Dec 10, 2002 1:14 pm

hey does anyone know when Gilmore Girls or the show Charmed are coming out on DVD? I like both those shows alot.

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GG rerun tonight

Postby NickDDP » Tue Dec 10, 2002 3:09 pm

Tonight's GG is indeed a rerun, "Haunted Leg":



Emily and Lorelai have a spat when the meddlesome Emily ignores Lorelai's request to stay out of her love life and tries to reunite Christopher and Lorelai. Meanwhile, Rory discovers that Jess is upset that they didn't talk over the summer.



-- Nick



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Re: The Gilmore Girls and Other TV Alternatives

Postby seurat » Tue Dec 10, 2002 3:14 pm

Bob, I should have mentioned this earlier, I'm afraid the WB was running promos for the GG ep this weekend and it's a rerun. Our sources were wrong, and the ratings landslide we were hoping for will have to wait a week, or more likely two or three. It looks like next weeks is a rerun too, running against a new ep of - that other show. Should be interesting.

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Re: GG rerun tonight

Postby pagnmickie » Tue Dec 10, 2002 3:24 pm

I find www.zap2it.com/index to be a more reliable listing for shows. Most of the time. I guess no one's perfect!



-Mickie

A doodle... I do doodle... You, too...
You do doodle, too...

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Re: New Birds of Prey Campaign launched

Postby Murasaki S » Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:38 pm

I too will miss this show. The differences with Buffy are pretty amazing especially how much more into the kicking ass and having fun side of things these girls are. I have a hard time understanding why the producers didn't think it was worth hiring a proven showrunner to get this show on track.

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Re: New Birds of Prey Campaign launched

Postby chelehel74 » Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:53 pm

I would agree that Birds of Prey was a sad loss. They had a full proof formula from the comic and frankly someone blew it. The writing was bad most of the time.



The production value and cast rocked but with the exception of the PILOT which I LOVED and gave me such high hopes as well as the Lady Shiva episode which gave Dina Meyer a chance to shine most of the rest of the episodes seemed far to formula.



It was like they tried to do this basic monster of the week thing and it just didn't click.



Also the chemistry spent with Huntress and Officer "BORING" (as I called him took up to much time and was DULL!!!



There was better chemistry between Huntress and Oracle.



They also went out of there way to so the romance thing when 75% of the viewership was probably men 18-35 and the other 25% was woman. As a woman I even felt they went to Lifetime television movie to often. Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Alias, Smallville - these genre shows work because the touchy feely stuff is layered in slowly not in broad brush strokes.



I also have to say that the loss of Sheryln Fenn as Harley must have hurt because she would have ROCKED!!

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Re: Birds of Prey is Over

Postby chelehel74 » Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:58 pm

I agree with your thoughts completly although I think anyone who watches the show must realize that they did blow it.



They didn't layer anything.



The boyfriends were flung down our throat and none of the humanity of other genre shows was allowed to come out because they were to busy mixing elements of other succesful shows instead of creating something new.



BOP should have worked. The pilot was great. Lady Shiva was wonderful but 2 out of 8 can't cut it. I almost wish they had put the show on hiatus and re-worked it with either a new EP or hired a writing team and not gotten writers for hire which is how the show felt to me.





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Re: Birds of Prey is Over

Postby Dave V » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:51 am

Is the Dec 18 episode of Birds of Prey "Nature of the Beast" the last new episode that will be broadcast? I don't see any other ep titles on The WB website, and after Dec. 18 we're into the holiday season.

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Re: Birds of Prey is Over

Postby Italiangirl » Wed Dec 11, 2002 8:48 am

Regarding new episodes:



According to the people at Birdsofpreyonline, the following is the schedule running through to the series end in January:



Back-to-Back Birds on Jan. 8th
-- Saturday December 7th, 2002




Fans will be treated to a double-dose of Birds of Prey on the night of January 8th. Two all-new original episodes will air in the 8:00-10:00 pm timeslot, allowing the series to wrap up by mid-January as proposed. The schedule will go like this :



December 11th : Sins of the Mother

December 18th : Nature of the Beast

December 25th : Pre-empted for Christmas

January 1st : Pre-empted for New Year's Day

January 8th : Gladiatrix; Reunion

January 15th : Possible Two-Part Finale





You can check their site here: www.birdsofpreyonline.com



They update daily with news about the show, the upcoming episodes, how the campaign is going, and other tidbits related to the cast and production.

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Re: Birds of Prey is Over

Postby Dave V » Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:30 pm

Thanks for the link and info, Italiangirl!

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No Birds of Prey in LA tonight

Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Dec 18, 2002 2:28 pm

LA Kittens -



Tonight's Birds of Prey is being preempted for a Clippers game (the Clippers being the basketball team with the best record in LA right now :lol ).



The episode is currently scheduled for 6:00pm Saturday instead.

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Alias

Postby Cicca » Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:30 pm

Just a helpful reminder to kitties about another tv alternative!

If you haven't watched Alias this season, you've been missing excellent glimpses of Lena Olin's arms. There are other great reasons to watch the show, but I'll admit that those arms are one of the most compelling ;)

If anyone's tired of dime-a-dozen Hollywood starlets (and no, I don't think Jennifer Garner is one), check out Lena Olin.



Oh my wowie!

invite someone dangerous to tea * look forward to dreams * imagine yourself magic

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