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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Auburn » Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:17 pm

Hmmm :hmm on Brad and Jen splitting up I'm like.... :sigh



But what ellen's ex-girlfriend is doing I'm in two minds... one of my minds has sympathy for her because feeling hurt and betrayal could be the motivation behind it.



My other mind is saying GET OVER IT because she could just be getting petty!



The latter is my favourite mind I think I'll stick with that one!



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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Gatito Grande » Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:40 pm

Huh: I really don't have a problem w/ what Hedison is doing (maybe you have to have been abandoned by a spouse, as I have, to get this :mad ). It's only if she was doing something that singled this out a gay relationship (that she was saying it was worse to have your spouse stolen by another woman, or something) that I would have a problem.



GG Though I agree that the concept of "alienation of affection" (spouse-stealing) is basically silly. A spouse isn't an object to be stolen: they have free will. But as long as that law is on the books for straight couples, why shouldn't it be applied for a same-sex couple too? :hmm Out

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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby xita » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:48 pm

The thing is I would hold lesbians up to a higher standard. As lesbians, we kinda have been raised to take care of ourselves. We aren't waiting for the knight in shining armor to make everything better. I don't think for me that would change if all of a sudden I got together with a woman that was rich. I will add that if they had children together that Hedison had to raise, that would be a different story.



And relationships end for a reason, it wasn't likely in really great shape.



Of course legally, yeah use the law. Have a good time. Except the thing against Portia is just damn petty and she needs to get over it.

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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby TemperedCynic » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:36 pm

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The thing is I would hold lesbians up to a higher standard.
I would cautiously agree, but most role models are famous, and play by different rules. I can't help but feel that Ellen and Portia getting together feels less like love and more like a strategic corporate merger - with benefits of course. The law for Alex is all well and good, but gives the fundamentalists another "tort law reform" target. Too damn much drama for no added benefit. Kudos to Sara and Ally. May their quiet relationship prove to be one to model.


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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Warduke » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:07 pm

I don't think we've seen Ellen and Portia together out in public yet, until now.


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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby urnofosiris » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:20 pm

They make a lovely looking couple. I really hope they will remain happy together.

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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby xita » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:48 pm

I think that's the best match for Ellen yet, they look really good together. My friend from college visited me this weekend and we had the same argument. I think if I knew the details I could be judgemental. Otherwise, I wish the best for them.



They didn't arrive at the Golden Globes together but apparently went to the parties together. Here are some big ones at gettyimages, but they aren't as chummy and close as the ones you posted Brian. I'd wondered if Portia was ready to be this out. Since Ellen came out, the gfs kinda come out too. Everyone knew portia was gay but as far as I know only a few clandestine pictures were the actual proof.



editorial.gettyimages.com...2496&cdi=0



editorial.gettyimages.com...2495&cdi=0



editorial.gettyimages.com...2494&cdi=0



Here are some more!



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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:50 am

Well she better be ready, she does look it. I like their outfits, they are a lovely match. Anyway, Marcia Cross? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Culzean » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:58 pm



Well, Marcia Cross did go to the Golden Globes with a "girlfriend."

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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Gatito Grande » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:24 pm

Quote:
Anyway, Marcia Cross? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?




OT, but can someone explain this expression to me (the "Bueller" part?) :confused



GG Is it a "Farris Bueller" reference? I've never seen that movie :paranoid Out

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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:39 pm

Yes, it is from Ferris Bueller, one of the classics. It is actually a mix of two scenes, one where the extremely boring teacher is asking questions to his spaced out students and keeps saying anyone? anyone? anyone? before he finally answers his own question and the other is his role call where he keeps saying Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? because Ferris is not there to acknowlegde that he is present. I guess you had to be there. :p The 80s and high school. Such a great movie to relate to.

Edited by: DrG at: 1/18/05 2:40 pm
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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Kieli » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:45 pm

It's very much a Ferris Bueller reference....spoken by Ben Stein as boring homeroom teacher.



I'm keeping mum on the rest of this nonsense...I have quite an opinion on the matter and it ain't pretty :fit2


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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Auburn » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:04 pm

They look happy together, but I can't help but think of their former partners who are hurting right now y'know....



:hmm



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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby Warduke » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:26 pm

From IMDb...



Quote:
Portia De Rossi has given lover Ellen DeGeneres a Tiffany wedding band as a symbol of her devotion to the comedienne - and bought herself a matching ring. The Arrested Development actress gave the band to DeGeneres on her 47th birthday after only a two month courtship. De Rossi walked out on long-term partner Francesca Gregorini to be with the funnywoman last month. A source told gossip website Pagesix.Com, "It signifies their commitment to each other." However, the happy couple are unlikely to hold a ceremony to celebrate their union because gay marriages are illegal in California and they would want official recognition. Meanwhile, De Rossi is having laser treatment to remove a tattoo of the initials 'FG' from her wedding finger - Gregorini has a similar tattoo which the pair had done to signify their devotion.



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Re: Why Ellen and Gal Pal Split

Postby xita » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:17 pm

ahh brian that's so sweet and so lesbian. I wonder if they even waited for a second date to get the u-haul.

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Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Gatito Grande » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:54 pm

Gossip! Rumor! Gossip!



. . . it's flying fast and furious around Marcia Cross right now. The gossip site DataLounge is all abuzz about her supposedly coming out soon. (and---this kicks the rumormill into overdrive!---that she's supposedly hooked-up w/ the star of another TV series: supposedly connected to the WB).



Here's the dish:



Quote:
The gay cast member on Desperate Housewives is a regular and has appeared in every episode of the show and has signed a 5 year contract with the show.



The lead on the other show will be coming out in conjuction with said cast member. They have been a couple for about a year and a half. If you want a clue as to who the lover is, think WB (that's the network, not the lover's initials).




Thread starts here: www.datalounge.com/cgi-bi...age-1.html



GG Of course, as I slog through all the commentary, you've got a bunch of people who say this is all BS. But I think the evidence that Marcia plays on our team---People this week again reported her as "single" (funny, they never mention any male exes!)---is pretty overwhelming. But who is the girlfriend? And is she really Coming Out Soon??? Please let it be true! :pray Out



I love the one comment on the thread that said "It must be whoever Marcia is looking at in this picture"! :lol

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Culzean » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:19 pm

Ooohhh! Fun!!!



Unfortunately, I don't watch too many programs on the WB so I can't even make a guess.



Are there any contenders yet?

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:43 am

Eh: now it's unclear to me whether the whole story really was BS (I'm not familiar w/ this board. However, it appears like it might be subject to some of the same kind of unfortunate trollery as occurred on the Kitten Spoiler board, circa March-April 2002 :spin )



GG Still believe Marcia plays on our team, though. :pride Out

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby urnofosiris » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:46 am

Edit: well Gatito posted in the Gilmore thread that it is rumoured elsewhere that Lauren Graham is the significant other of Marcia Cross. They would certainly make a lovely couple if true. If you believe the person who posted the DH rumour and the hints are correct than it can´t be Lauren. Bummer, but still fun to speculate.



If this is Marcia´s gf, then I think she at least looks a bit like Lauren Graham.

Edited by: DrG at: 2/5/05 3:03 am
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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Culzean » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:25 am

I'm not positive, but I think the woman in that picture is the same woman who accompanied Marcia Cross to the Golden Globes. There were some close-ups of the two of them walking up the red carpet.



One of the announcers was naming off everyone's date, and mentioned that MC had come with a girlfriend, so I rewound to check her out.

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:13 pm

It´s official! Or at least it is according to a Dutch newspaper:



www.telegraaf.nl/prive/17...isch!.html



If you read carefully, you can recognize some subtle key gay words such as lesbisch, Ellen DeGeneres, Cynthia Nixon, gay magazine and homo. Oh joy, I did a quick google to find an English article, but I could not find one yet.

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Warduke » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:31 pm

There's an article about the whole Marcia Cross thing at AfterEllen.com


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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Gatito Grande » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:45 pm

This is weird: on the AfterEllen site, I just keep getting a blank page. Could they have taken the article down?



GG So is this the Real Deal, or are sites just "telephoning" last week's rumor around? Gossip and rumors are fun, but they can be pretty damn frustrating when they just keep cycling around, w/ no real hard facts to support them. :spin Out



However, I think we're all smart enough to know that, where gay rumors are involved, where there's smoke there's usually fire. COME OUT MARCIA!!! :pride



ETA: Huh. Nevermind: now the AfterEllen article IS up. (Maybe the bandwidth was just clogged in a gossip/rumor frenzy? :p )

Edited by: Gatito Grande at: 2/8/05 5:01 pm
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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:58 pm

Hee, funny Wanda is still trying to pretend she already knew what the rest of the world knew way before she did. I had no idea that gossipy post by the friendly ABC spy was only made a week ago. I think this proves more than just the power of the internet to spread gossip as news, it also shows the need for this to be true, the need for more visible gay names and faces. The Dutch article basically repeats everything the friendly spy hinted at, including the brunette from another show.

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby WebWarlock » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:04 pm

Here is this one.



www.sky.com/showbiz/artic...37,00.html



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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Culzean » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:13 pm

I went to a website called WordLingo and pasted in that article. Here's the translation:



housewives ASTRE Marcia is lesbian!

by our redactie

AMSTERDAM - Desperate housewives actress Marcia cross ' from the cupboard ' has come by posing for gay a magazine. The red-haired babe - insipid Bree Of the camp in the hitshow - steps in the foot tracks of Cynthia Nixon and Ellen DeGeneres by for its sexual geaardheid to end up.



The 42 person whose birthday it is Marcia for some time already a relation seems have with a brunette from another American hitshow. By on the cover of booklet to stand, wants make the actress its preference for women public.



According to a insider its direct colleagues knew for some time already that Marcia lesbian, but was she is frightened that the news the look figures negatively to influence. Desperate Housewives- inventor Marc Cherry is however itself homo and stood thus square behind Marcia's decision for news to to bring.



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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby urnofosiris » Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:17 pm

Ah those internet translations thingies always crack me up. :laugh Yes, we speak Yoda in the Netherlands.

I think the internet blurbs outside of the US have probably copied the news from US sites without bothering to check where it came from, but for a network like CNN to mention Marcia Cross by name I would hope they would check where they got their news from. It should not be based on an anonymous post and speculation somewhere on the internet.

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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby xita » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:07 pm

I certainly hope it's true!! yay

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Marcia is NOT Coming Out (yet anyway)

Postby Gatito Grande » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:09 pm

I guess this ends this buzz . . . for awhile. :devilish



Quote:
Wednesday, February 09, 2005



Desperate Housewives star denies coming-out rumors



After several days of media speculation that suggested that Desperate Housewives star Marcia Cross was planning to come out as a lesbian in the pages of The Advocate, the actress's publicist has released a statement denying such a move.



"In response to the recent rumors about Marcia Cross, they are completely untrue," says a statement from Cross's publicist, Heidi Lopata Slan. "She is, however, very supportive of the gay and lesbian community."



Cross and her fellow Housewives were honored over the weekend when the show was awarded Best Comedy Ensemble at the Screen Actors Guild awards.




www.advocate.com/new_news...d=02/09/05



GG I think it's worth noting that the denial (ala "in denial"? :eyebrow ) is very general : "recent rumors about Marcia Cross . . . are completely untrue." What, exactly, is untrue? The publicist COULD have said "she is not a lesbian," but didn't. :hmm Out



Oh well: someone can only come out when they're ready. I suspect she's just not ready yet. It's her decision. :sigh And I appreciate her support of our community, regardless. :kiss



(But I bet she'll find that the rumor mill ain't going away any time soon ;) )



ETA: Great minds, Brian! But again, note: your piece says "the sexy redhead maintains she is of heterosexual status . . . " However, that is clearly the ET writer speaking: it's not in quotes from the publicist! :hmm

Edited by: Gatito Grande at: 2/8/05 10:14 pm
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Re: Marcia Coming Out?!?!

Postby Warduke » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:07 am

From ETonline...



Quote:
HOUSEWIFE' DENIES GAY RUMORS

February 8, 2005



"Desperate Housewives" star MARCIA CROSS wants to make sure the world knows that recent gay rumors about her are false. ET has learned, according to her publicist, that the rumors are "completely untrue," although Marcia is "very supportive of the gay and lesbian community." Unlike fellow entertainers like ELLEN DeGENERES and former "Sex and the City" star CYNTHIA NIXON, who have publicly come out of the closet, the sexy redhead maintains she is of heterosexual status despite tabloid rumors that she was going to pose for the gay magazine The Advocate.




Of course, that doesn't mean anything. I remember Brad and Jen talking about how everything was fine and then like a month later...


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