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OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Mara » Fri Jul 19, 2002 5:28 pm

I'm aware that this is off-topic, but I think it's of enough importance to get its own thread... (In case I'm wrong, please do change it to the daily thread)



Here's the problem: remember the Nigerian woman that was going to be stoned to death, but that the international community saved?



There's another Nigerian woman in the same situation now. The problem is, that this time they're not having support from enough people to save her life.



On the Amnistía Internacinal (International Amnisty) site, there's a section www.amnistiaporsafiya.org/ dedicated to Safiya, the Nigerian woman I'm talking about and what people can do to help her. It's in spanish, though... but maybe someone can translate it (my spanish is bit bad, sorry)



From all the Forums I go to, the Kitten board is the one with most users. Please help her. I'm basically spreading the word in all the IRC channels and forums I go to.



Sorry if there was any inconvenience by this post.

Thank you.

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"Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo" - H. G. Wells

Edited by: Mara at: 7/19/02 4:33:51 pm
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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Hyo Shin » Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:48 am

news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc...at=nigeria



Nigerian Mother Loses Appeal Against Stoning Death

Mon Aug 19,10:21 AM ET

By Camillus Eboh



FUNTUA, Nigeria (Reuters) - An Islamic court in northern Nigeria ruled Monday that a woman must face death by stoning according to Muslim law for having a child outside marriage.







The decision, upholding a verdict by a lower court, looks set to re-ignite international outrage against Nigeria and could stoke sectarian tensions in the country's largely Islamic north.



The judge said the stoning would not be carried out until Amina Lawal Kurami, 31, had weaned her eight-month-old daughter Wasila, which may not be for another two years.



Holding the baby in her arms, Kurami remained calm as the verdict was announced and was quickly whisked away by her lawyers who said they would appeal against the decision.



"We hereby uphold the judgement of the (lower) Bakori sharia court that decreed that you be sentenced to death by stoning," said court president Abdullahi Aliyu Katsina, to chants of "Allahu Akbar" (God is Greater) from the largely male audience.



Kurami was sentenced to death in March by a lower court in her state of Katsina, which like a number of others in northern Nigeria has adopted Islamic sharia law.



In June, a regional appeals court in Funtua gave her a two-year reprieve to wean her child.



Kurami is the second woman to be sentenced to death for bearing a child outside marriage since 2000, when the first of about a dozen states adopted the strict sharia code.



In March, an appeals court quashed a similar sentence on Safiya Hussaini Tungar-Tudu and acquitted her after the European Union ( news - web sites) led worldwide appeals for clemency. President Olusegun Obasanjo also warned Nigeria risked international isolation over the case.



The introduction of sharia law has been controversial in the north of Nigeria, where more than 3,000 people have died in Muslim-Christian clashes in the past three years.



FRESH APPEAL PLANNED



The judge, who took one hour to read the verdict on behalf of four other colleagues, said the sentence would not be carried out until Kurami weans her child. Lawyers estimate this would be sometime in 2004.



The judges based their decision mainly on what they said was a confession to adultery by Kurami, a divorcee, in the lower court trial.



Defense lawyers who earlier spoke confidently of overturning the lower court's sentence, immediately served notice they would appeal. They whisked away Kurami, watched by some 20 heavily armed police officers guarding the court.



"We are not satisfied with the judgement and are going to appeal," defense lawyer Aliyu Musa Yauri told reporters.



The defense has 30 days to take the case to the regional sharia appeals court.



In the capital Abuja Sunday, Kurami said she had left her fate in God's hands.



"God is in control. I believe he will vindicate me," Kurami told Reuters, before she was driven to Funtua for the judgement.



Kurami's lawyers say she has fainted repeatedly and been taken to hospital in the past days after making the six-hour journey from her village near Katsina to Abuja.



"She arrived completely exhausted," her lawyer, Hauwa Ibrahim, told Reuters Sunday.



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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Jimmi Magnus » Tue Aug 20, 2002 12:22 pm

Mara, you can use the online translator Babelfish to help you with that page.



Goto:

babelfish.altavista.com/

Then below "TRANSLATE A WEB PAGE" insert the link:

www.amnistiaporsafiya.org/

There's a scrollbar directly to the right. Set it to "Spanish to English" and click the "Translate" button.

Now you wil have the page in english.



Sorry if that "how-to" might seem to be a bit spelled out, I just want to make sure that anyone will understand how to do this.



Sincerely

Jimmi Magnus



Edited to correct mispelled name.

Edited by: Jimmi Magnus at: 8/20/02 11:25:38 am
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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Hemiola » Tue Aug 20, 2002 3:07 pm

I just thought I'd mentioned that these very same courts are also ordering floggings and mutilations (the removal of a man's hand was recently broadcast on television!!!!!!:grrrr).



How long can it be before someone is burned at the stake?

Hemiola
 


Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Dave V » Tue Aug 20, 2002 5:54 pm

The English Amnesty International site (web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/In...SNIGERIA) also has information as follows:

Quote:
AI-index: AFR 44/017/2002 19/08/2002



AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESS RELEASE



Nigeria: Death by stoning upheld in the case of Amina Lawal



Amnesty International is gravely concerned at today's decision by a Sharia court of appeal in Funtua in Katsina State, Nigeria, to uphold the sentence of death by stoning imposed on Amina Lawal, a young Nigerian woman who is alleged to have had a child out of wedlock.



"This judgement is incompatible with the Nigerian constitution and also with Nigeria's legal obligations under international human rights law and the African Charter for Human and People Rights," the organization said, adding that "the practice of stoning to death is the ultimate form of torture or cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment prohibited by both the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention against Torture."



Amnesty International is strongly opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances on the grounds that it represents the ultimate cruel inhuman and degrading punishment and violates the right to life



Amina Lawal has now been granted 30 days to appeal against the decision.



Amnesty International is asking the Nigerian government to ensure that Amina Lawal enjoys her full rights of appeal in accordance with Nigeria's obligations under international human rights law, including article 6 (2) of the ICCPR and the safeguards guaranteeing protection of the rights of those facing the death penalty.



"Amina Lawal should be allowed to fully enjoy her rights of appeal to a higher, impartial, independent tribunal which follows the due process of law. This sentence must not be carried out." the organization said.



Background

The Nigerian constitution guarantees the right to life and to freedom from torture and cruel inhuman and degrading punishments and the right to fair trial. Nigeria is a state party to the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment or Punishment and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The ICCPR protects the rights to life and in countries which have not abolished the death penalty, sentences of death may be imposed only for the most serious crimes. This has been interpreted by several United Nations bodies, including the United Nations commission on human rights to be limited and not go beyond "... intentional crimes with lethal or extremely grave consequences and ... not to be imposed for non-violent acts such as .. Sexual relations between consenting adults." (Commission on Human Rights Resolution 2002/77, para 4cc).



The case of Amina Lawal does not fit within the strict definition of 'most serious crimes.



Take Action:

Please write to Nigerian authorities and reiterate AI's concerns about the decision of the court to uphold the sentence to death on Amina Lawal



Public Document



For more information please call Amnesty International's press office in London, UK, on +44 20 7413 5566

Amnesty International, 1 Easton St., London WC1X 0DW. web: www.amnesty.org



For latest human rights news view news.amnesty.org








Edited by: Dave V at: 8/20/02 4:55:27 pm
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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Nix42 » Sun Sep 15, 2002 5:31 am

Amensty International have organised a letter writing campaign to the Nigerian president, please take a few moments to sign.



Please sign the letter-- hopefully the power of

numbers can help this woman.

http://www.mertonai.org/amina/

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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby KISMIC » Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:04 am

That is just disgusting and unbelievable. Just makes you think, 'What the hell is wrong with some people/countries!'


Anyway I signed the petition, here's hoping that it helps in some way. :(

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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Robin » Sun Sep 15, 2002 7:15 am

Hm, I signed the petition but I'm not sure my datas got through.



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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby spring98 » Sun Sep 15, 2002 9:01 am

I can't believe things like this are still happening in this world. I signed the petition.

spring98
 


Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby Jaguar » Sun Sep 15, 2002 9:19 am

I signed the petition.

Hope the petition will make a difference.

Jaguar
 


Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby starlitefaeriegrrrl » Sun Sep 15, 2002 11:11 am

I signed the petition. What a horrible way to die, I can't stop thinking about that poor woman. The world is totally screwed up on a level I can't even begin to grasp. I really hope she gets saved.

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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby DawnsMan » Sun Sep 15, 2002 12:28 pm

This world and some of the people in it are so beyond screwed up.

It feels like things just keep coming at me...I'm starting to wonder...It's easier not to let anyone in. ~Buffy

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Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby maudmac » Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:10 pm

I knew this thread was back there somewhere.



After all this time, Amina Lawal is free. That's great and I'm happy and relieved.



But... (of course there's a but) ...she's really only free on a technicality, specifically that she was already three months pregnant when Sharia law was enacted where she lives.



Even so, if the court hadn't overturned her conviction, a higher (secular) court most likely would have.



So now she's free...but she goes home to the heart of fundamentalist Islamic Nigeria, where not everyone is happy with the court's decision. And there's little doubt that whatever outcome this case would have had, it would be likely to spark violence between the Christians and Muslims. Thousands of people have already died in ethnic/religious clashes there.



I can't even imagine living in a situation like that. It boggles my mind. I'm just glad Amina Lawal is free. The problem is, who's going to be the next woman sentenced to be buried up to her neck and have stones thrown at her head until she is dead?



Anyway, related stories for anyone interested:



Woman sentenced to stoning freed



Nigeria braces for backlash after court saves mother



The basics on Sharia


I have often been adrift, but I have always stayed afloat.    --  David Berry,  The Whales of August

maudmac
 


Re: OT - Another Nigerian woman's life endangered

Postby urnofosiris » Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:48 pm

Ah I was looking for this thread earlier, but I could not find it. This was on the news here and in the papers, it is very good news, but the first thing that went to my mind was where is she going to go to? I am worried someone will take that particular "law" into their own hands. This whole thing is mindboggling indeed, here we are, the most intelligent and evolved species on earth, selfproclaimed that is, the actions of some people certainly don't support that assertion.

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She's so anally retentive she wouldn't sit down for fear of sucking up the furniture.


--Patsy Stone

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Speaking of amnesty

Postby areslei » Sat Sep 27, 2003 1:03 am

Mods...please move this thread if you find it appropriate somewhere else. While we're on the topic of amnesty, human rights, etc...

The Homeland Security Department is planning to write up new regulations on asylum based on sex. In one case, a Guatemalan woman was beaten and raped repeatedly by her husband...a matter that the Guatemalan police would not tend to because it was a problem within the home. She tried to come to the US, applying for asylum, and was turned down because we currently provide asylum for people from other countries who are persecuted for religion and whatnot, but not for women who are trying to escape abuse. This particular case has been in limbo, but she could still be deported. Apparently, the proposed regulations "would fail to recognize gender-related violence as a legitimate basis for recognition as a refugee," and "could severely limit the opportunity for women asylum-seekers fleeing honor killing, sexual slavery, domestic violence, and other gross human rights violations to be protected in the United States."

More info can be found on takeaction.amnestyusa.org...item=10183 .

The above site also has a pre-written letter directed to Attorney General Ashcroft, basically asking for US amnesty for such women...it just needs to be signed and edited with your comments. At least please take the time to read it. Thank you.

lei

Edited by: areslei at: 9/27/03 12:13 am
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Re: Speaking of amnesty

Postby maudmac » Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:36 am

I have a feeling that if there were a bunch of men somewhere in the world who were being assaulted, tortured, killed, etc., by women, the US would probably not only welcome those men with open arms but probably send in troops to get them and bring them back here.



What else could I possibly think when the US and the bulk of the international community turns a blind eye to the horrors being inflicted upon women and children around the world?



:rage


I have often been adrift, but I have always stayed afloat.    --  David Berry,  The Whales of August

maudmac
 


Re: Speaking of amnesty

Postby urnofosiris » Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:37 am

That is absurd, if the country of origin fails to protect one of it's citizens from abuse or if that country itself persecutes it's citizens then other nations should provide a safe haven. Especially if said country claims to be the greatest democracy in the world and is in the habit freeing the people of another nation from it's evil dictator. How can such a country even contemplate turning it's back on one woman.



I seriously wonder whether my own country would do any better though. A few weeks ago I heard about a Nigerian woman being threatened with deportation. She has been living with a Dutch man for years and they have two children together. She can stay if she marries him, but she can't marry him without a birthcertificate, and she does not have one, yet immigration just suggests she can go back to Nigeria to get one. It is mindboggling. The fact that she can stay if she marries is absurd enough, I mean, welcome to the year 2003. People can have a meaningful loving relationship without being married. Even if they don't love each other now, the fact that they have two children together should be enough. End of story. How they can even contemplate breaking up a family is mindboggling. Does every fucking possibility be written down on paper before someone can do the decent thing? How people making these kinds of decisions -hiding behind the "rules"- can live with themselves is beyond me.



Oh yeah, the fact she being threatened with deportation at all is because Nigeria is "safe" now. Gosh yeah, sure it is.

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She's so anally retentive she wouldn't sit down for fear of sucking up the furniture.


--Patsy Stone

Edited by: DrG at: 9/27/03 9:00 am
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