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Project on gay rights - need Kittens help!

Postby SnoopyDancer » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:53 pm

Hi, Kittens! :wave



Today we were told to choose a subject to argue for and against on and produce a peice of coursework on it. The subject our group decided to do is gay rights. We're all asking different people to fill out a survey, and I thought of you guys :)



It would be a huge help if you could just answer some of these questions that my friends told me to hand out! Thank you :kiss



Age:

Gender:

Sexuality:

Marital status:

Where do you live (Country, County)? -

What religion are you (if any)? –

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? -

What are your views on same-sex relationships? -

What are your views on same-sex marriage? -

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? -

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? -

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? -

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? -

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? -



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) -

What were the reactions of the people you told? -

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? –

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? –



Once again, thanks alot for your input Kittens! It's appreciated! :D



~Jenn







SnoopyDancer
 


Questionnaire thing, hope it helps

Postby robotguru » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:05 pm

Age: 20

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Gay

Marital status: Single

Where do you live (Country, County)? - North East England (West Midlands while at uni)

What religion are you (if any)? – Christian/Christian Wicca

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - No, the bible is a guide sure, the bible was also put together by a patriarchal society, how Naomi and Ruth got in, i'll never know.

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - I'm gay...go figure

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Ditto

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - I think that gay couples have every right to adopt, recently in my (uni) area, two gay guys adopted three siblings, i find this encouraging

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - Generally, there is prejudice, that sucks.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - (apart from myself) Yup, not outing them though

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - I'm gay myself...why would it?

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - No, love is the purest most natural thing i can think of, love is also spontaneous.



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - I was nervous (duh) It was easier on the net (that is a given) and with some mates

What were the reactions of the people you told? - Generally i've been treated pretty much as i was before.

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – My best friend before i moved, i still don't know how he'd react. Also, the people at uni, i'm on a teaching course...there are stereotypes, bad ones.

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – My parents, erm...because they're my parents, supportive of me but i don't want them to be ashamed of me yada yada yada

Edited by: robotguru at: 11/22/04 1:07 pm
robotguru
 


Re: Questionnaire thing, hope it helps

Postby Gatito Grande » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:23 pm

Age: 42

Gender: Queer!

Sexuality: Ditto!

Marital status: single (actually, divorced)

Where do you live (Country, County)? - USA, (state of) Michigan

What religion are you (if any)? – Christian: specifically Episcopalian (and proud of it! :pride )

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - Not hardly! The Bible says NOTHING AGAINST homosexuality, and anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or lying :miff

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - Where's mine? :sob

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Ditto!

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - Great (for me, maybe---when coupled---and please dear God!---gainfully employed)

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - Too d*mn many ignorant-of-what-the-Bible-actually-says "Christians" (so-called!) in the USA :mad

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Well, duh.

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - No. Good'uns are good'uns, jerks are jerks.

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - Just ask all the same-sex boinking animals! (OK, speaking for us all: heck no!)



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - Confusion. Angst. Outrage (variably)

What were the reactions of the people you told? - Affirming. Awkward. Frequently both.

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – Oh yeah: the 'rents (Due to Confusion. Angst. Outrage. But currently, financial dependence). And I'm 42: marvel, everyone, at the patheticness! :rolleyes

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – Well, that would be the 'rents. Obviously (see above for reasons)



GG Would you believe, coming out to the 'rents is on my New Year's/immediate post-employment resolutions? :pray Out

Gatito Grande
 


Re: Questionnaire thing, hope it helps

Postby silver179 » Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:00 pm

Age: 21

Gender: Girl parts

Sexuality: Bi

Marital status: Single as could be

Where do you live (Country, County)? Texas, USA

What religion are you (if any)? An odd mix of everything, though dominantly Pagan

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? The Bible is a 2000 year old game of telephone that was written by falliable men with their own viewpoints/agendas. You can't follow some parts and ignore the others. That's my biggest gripe.

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - Let them have their relations. It's not hurting anyone.

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Let them get married! It's not going to touch the precious heterosexual marriage. Nor will it influence your children except to maybe, *gaspshockhorror* make them more open-minded.

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - Let them! There are thousands of children who are in foster care, not getting the love and attention they deserve. Who cares if they get that attention and love from two daddies or two mommies?

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - Being from the buckle of the Bible belt, same-sex couples are rejected by society in a harsh way by the older generation. But the younger generation I'm finding is much more open-minded and tolerant. Thank gods.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Many of them.

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - At first, yes. Some online gay friends of mine completely changed my opinion on homosexuality from a close-minded "ew" perspective, to one that is much more open, and enjoying of the relationships. Particularly when two hotties are involved. :wink

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - Not in the slightest. It's been proven that it exists naturally in species other than human, and I've known enough people to know that their love couldn't be anything but natural.



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - It was generally an "oh, okay." Previously I'd just considered myself "open-minded enough to appreciate the same-sex beauty." Then I began fancying some of them and well...

What were the reactions of the people you told? - Supportive, a few "I knew it!"s

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – My parents. My mother would disown me if I brought a girl home. My dad would be thrown, but probably eventually accepting.

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – The above listed parents will be should that ocassion arise.



silver179
 


Re: Project on gay rights - need Kittens help!

Postby TemperedCynic » Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:07 pm

Age: 44

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Straight

Marital status: Married over 15 years

Where do you live (Country, County)? - MN (still 'blue' country)

What religion are you (if any)? – I'm between religions.



(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - N/A



What are your views on same-sex relationships? - Life is hard enough on this rock we call Earth. If you find someone to love who loves you,



What are your views on same-sex marriage? –

The US Constitution, Bill of Rights and precedence of law will some day make same-sex marriage legal. Maybe not right away, but the end result is as inevitable as the sun rising. The Netherlands approved same-sex marriage after almost a decade of hard work and continuous dialog. Many in this country believe that the movement advanced too soon, or was coerced into pushing the agenda into the election year. The result: a divided populace, a demoralized movement and an energized Conservative base ready to remove all gay rights, make being gay illegal in the US and cripple a large and loyal faction of the Democratic Party in the process.



What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? –

Straight people have issues with this for two reasons: 1) the children are in danger due to 'unwholesome' views and, 2) same-sex couples cannot breed like hetero couples, ergo they are not ‘real’ couples in the traditional sense. Children who grow up in same-sex households learn to accepts differences in others and they are no more likely to realize they are gay than any other child. As for traditional marriage or traditional families, historians throw up there hands and ask “When and Where?” Once same-sex marriage is legal in this country, this question will become moot.



What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? -

I find it reprehensible to watch politicians use this social policy matter to denigrate a class of people for their own gain. I understand it from a ‘winner take all, no holds barred, win at all costs’ objective approach, yet the impact is to real people and that gets lost in the rhetoric. Most ‘red-stater’s don’t understand gay rights because they have never met a gay person. This needs to change. There needs to be dialog showing that same-sex relationships will not ruin the fabric of society any more than after Loving vs. Virginia ruled interracial marriage was legal in 1967. Given time and discussions, we should be able to push forward within the next decade. To do so sooner would likely jeopardize those rights currently held, since I expect the label of “Un-American” will be used effectively for gays who do not conform.



Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? –

I know several people who are gay. I know gay males, gay females and gay couples who have been together longer than many marriages. I have family members that are gay, friends that are gay, internet acquaintances that are gay, bi or questioning. I’ve lost contact with some, had arguments with others and the rest I keep in contact. Pretty much like I do my straight friends, actually.



Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? -

Of course. As a straight person growing up Catholic, gays were against the Bible and were to be shunned. But family who ‘came out’ will alter your perceptions a lot. If you love your family more than your religion, the choice is an easy one and so I turned away from religion for their unwillingness to stop their hatred for those who are ‘different’ and therefore an abomination. Remember, the Bible was effectively used to promote slavery and prevent interracial marriage. Times change, folks. Get over it.



Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? –

No, I do not. Homosexuality has been on this planet longer than the written word and will continue to be here long after we are dust. Homosexuals do not ‘choose’ this lifestyle – why choose something that will ostracize you, your mate, and anyone who supports your views? Not that long ago, death or psychological experimentation was commonly proscribed for ‘degenerates’. When you see homosexuals fighting hard for their rights, it is often with an eye on what can happen if their vigilance slips, even a little.




More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly. Woody Allen (1935 - )

TemperedCynic
 


gay rights project

Postby Jinx » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:26 pm

Age: 16

Gender: Female

Sexuality: Lesbian

Marital status: single

Where do you live (Country, County)? - Missouri, USA

What religion are you (if any)? – Christian (Protestant)



(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - No, I believe that the Bible says nothing about loving homosexual relationships



What are your views on same-sex relationships? - Go for it, wish I was in one right now...



What are your views on same-sex marriage? - I will fight for this right until it is either won or I die trying. The government has no right to discriminate because of someone's sexual orientation



What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - There are a huge number of children out there who need stable, loving, permanent homes. If there are families out there, gay or straight, who could give them these homes, why deny the kids that?



What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - People need to learn to put prejudices aside for one moment and realize that God created us all, and that He loves us. People are too judgemental, in spite of the Bible that they love to quote.



Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Many



Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - At first I saw them as all very good allies. They were like me, so they had to be good. Then I realized that gays are just like everyone else. There are awesome people, then there are assholes.



Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - No.



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - I'm still only out to a few people, the ones that matter, but those were some of the scariest experiences in my entire life.



What were the reactions of the people you told? - My Wiccan/Atheist/Agnostic friends were very warm and accepting, and are my main support structure. My Christian friends told me I was going to Hell and stopped inviting me to church. My brother was cool, and my mother is still in denial a year later.



Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – My father. I don't live with him but my brother switches houses between my mom and dad. He is the biggest bigot I have ever met and will disown me (not that it matters) but then he will poison my bro's mind (he's 11) with hate, or at least he'll try. He would also try to take my bro away from my mom b/c I'm here and I'll make him gay or something.



Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – My mom. She is very religious and I knew that she would probably pull a Sheila Rosenberg and pretend she didn't hear a word of it or tell me I'm going through a phase, which she did.



Jinx
 


Re: gay rights project

Postby WebWarlock » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:43 am

Let us all know how this project goes.



Age: 35

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Straight

Marital status: Married 9.5 years

Where do you live (Country, County)? - Chicago, IL, USA

What religion are you (if any)? – Atheist

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - N?A

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - Same as anyother relationship.

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Everyone of consenting age should be allowed to marry whomever they wish, regardless of the genders involved.

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - There are so many children out there that need loving homes and parents. If someone wants to take on the job to raise a child then they should be allowed the chance.

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - The large majority of people out there are idiots.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - lots.

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - No.

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - No.



Warlock

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WebWarlock
 


Re: gay rights project

Postby ExtraFlameyWT » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:00 pm

Age: 18

Gender: Female

Sexuality: Lesbian

Marital status: Engaged

Where do you live (Country, County)? - NE, USA

What religion are you (if any)? – Christian

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - I think that many things in the Bible are misinterpreted. I don't disagree with same sex couples. If I did, I would be a hypocrite.

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - I feel that everyone has a right to be happy. No matter what conservative republicans believe, sexual orientation is not a choice.

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - I don't think anyone should be allowed to get married unless they are doing it as a sacrament in church. Marriage is a sacrament and I don't care whether a church is going to recognize me as married or not. All I care is that I get the rights that are provided to all other "married" couples in the U.S.A. I think that everyone should have to apply for a civil union license (yes, even straight couples). That is what our government technically recognizes, anyway.

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - If they want to have children I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be allowed. Being gay isn't something you can "catch."

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - I don't think that same-sex relationships are accepted at all. Too many people degrade us. There is too much hate over something that isn't our choice. I think that people need to be more open minded, because it's sad that here we are in the 21st Century and we can't be treated with respect. People need to, just for a second, think about how it would be if the roles were reversed.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Yes, I know lots of people who are gay.

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - not at all

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - no way





How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - In some ways I have known I was gay all my life (even before I knew what "gay" was). I have always had feelings for girls, and never once been turned on by a guy. Even in elementary school I liked girls. In junior high and high school (up to the time I realized it) I would think about girls as my best friends would be talking about boys. I always knew subconsciously, because you don't have those kinds of thoughts all the time unless you are. I finally let myself believe it, though, when I found this board.

What were the reactions of the people you told? - My parents were sort of in denial, even though they were pretty supportive. They still tried to convince me that I wasn't. My mom basically worries because I want to be a teacher and she thinks I'm going to have a hard time finding a job because I'm gay. My grandparents are bigots. They don't say anything to me about being gay, but I have heard stories of what they say behind my back. My brother and sister were both pretty laid back about it, and very supportive. My friends basically already knew and said that they were just waiting for me to tell them. I was lucky that I had very few bad reactions.

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – I haven't come out to many people at college because my school is a lot more conservative than I once thought it to be.

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – My mother, because she was the first person I told.



I hope that this helped.



Aimee :wave



edited to add There is a great quote from the "West Wing" that I really like...it basically shows what I meant about misinterpretations or changes since the Bible was written.



Quote:
President Bartlet (Martin Sheen): I like how you call homosexuality an abomination.

Jenna Jacobs: I don't say homosexuality is an abomination, Mr. President, the Bible does.

President Bartlet: Yes, it does. Leviticus.

Jenna Jacobs: 18:22.

President Bartlet: Chapter and verse. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I have you here. I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleared the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another? My Chief of Staff Leo McGarry insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police? Here's one that's really important because we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother John for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? "Think about that, will you?


"Pope John Paul today confirmed his opposition to gay marriages, said they're unnatural. Gay marriage is unnatural. Then he put on a pointy hat, his dress, and returned to never having sex at all." -Bill Maher

Edited by: ExtraFlameyWT at: 11/24/04 6:21 am
ExtraFlameyWT
 


gay rights project

Postby badkitty » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:05 pm

Age: 36

Gender: F

Sexuality: Mostly Gay

Marital status: legally single, civil unioned in VT, married in the eyes of myself, my wife, my friends, and God.

Where do you live (Country, County)? - Ohio, USA

What religion are you (if any)? – raised Roman Catholic, but I do not currently practice any religion

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - As far as I'm concerned, the only part of the Bible I lend any credence to is what Jesus taught us. And he never said anything about homosexuality. He only talked about love, devotion to god and each other, turning the other cheek, etc. Which goes to show that who you love is not quite so important, just as long as you love.

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - they are just as natural and valid hetero relationships.

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Constitutional seperation of church and state, a fundamental tenet of American law, expressly forbids the church from interfering with civil constructs like marriage. Yet somehow, courts have either interpreted the law without regard to those tenets, or have simply declined to address the issue. We allow churches to interfere, thereby restricting basic civil rights to an entire class of citizens based on the "moral" values or beliefs of a certain intolerant segment of the populace. And that's wrong. If churches don't want to marry gay people, then they don't have to. But we should not be denied the rights that hetersexual unions get because of that.

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - They should be able to do so. Period.

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - Oh, don't get me started! Honestly, the question is somewhat broad. I can only answer in general terms - that American society needs to join the rest of the civilised world and accept homosexuality and homosexuals for what they are - valued, contributing members of society that deserve the same rights and considerations as everyone else. We have a hell of a long way to go in that respect, because during the last four years, (and the next four I'm afraid) we've seen attitudes in the US take a turn for the worse. Acceptance seemed to be on the horizon, but we backpeddled into intolerance.. then fell straight into hate. If we took two steps forward in the 90's, we took ten back in the new millenium.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Lots!

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - Yeah. I like 'em better.

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - NO.



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - It was horrible, painful, and completely unnecessary. In a more accepting society... hell, in a more accepting family, it would have been easier. I could have done without the guilt and the shame. Being a teenager is hard enough without all of that shit.

What were the reactions of the people you told? - All of my friends were really supportive. Brothers were dismissive, thinking it was "just a phase." My sister and sisters in law were great - very supportive. My parents, not so much with the support. In their defense, they were confused and generally pretty ignorant in terms of homosexuality, and sexuality in general. Old world Italian Roman Catholics, you know? We didn't speak of sex, and we certainly did not speak of gay sex. Being gay was just not an option. To their credit though, they've come around and are very supportive of my relationship with my wife.

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – No. I'm completely out. It's a personal policy of mine. I don't hide.

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – My parents, for the reasons stated above.



Good luck with your survey!!!



gail

(badkitty)

badkitty
 


Re: Project on gay rights - need Kittens help!

Postby TaraFan90 » Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:15 pm

Age: 14

Gender: Female

Sexuality: Bisexual

Marital status: Single

Where do you live (Country, County)? - Long Beach, CA

What religion are you (if any)? – Christian

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - NO!

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - They're fine, everyone deserves to be happy

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - also fine, it shouldn't matter who you marry as long as your happy

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - It's good, they should be able to have children, even if they are adopted.

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - I think it's stupid that people look down on gay people. There's nothing wrong with it, people who do accept it are way more mature than those who don't.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - well, i'm Bi but besides myself i don't know anyone

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - can't answer

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - No. It's very natrual, if you like/love someone then thatz great no matter what gender they are



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - It was scary coming out to my friends, i was afraid they'd just leave me, some did but that just showed they were never really my friends in the 1st place. i just haven't told any adults yet

What were the reactions of the people you told? - Some were shocked and it took them a while to get over it and others kinda expected.

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – I haven't told my parents yet. My dad because he hates homosexuality and my mom because she's a BIG-TIME Christian.

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – My best friend because she had said she was against it and didn't feel comfortable around people like that but i eventually told her and she was fine with it, i guess alot can change in a year cuz that's howlong it took me to tell her.



TaraFan90
 


Re: Project on gay rights - need Kittens help!

Postby russ » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:25 am

Age: 53

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Straight

Marital status: Married (30 years!)

Where do you live (Country, County)? - Southern Ontario, Canada

What religion are you (if any)? – Christian, Anglican

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - Not at all. The Bible has a lot of rules and laws, most of which are not relevant today. It's the spirit of Jesus' message which is important.

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - Love is always good; who you love is determined by your nature.

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Every citizen should be treated equally in matters of marriage. The state has no business telling anyone who they can or cannot marry.

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - Should be evaluated by the same criteria anyone else would be.

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - Since the "not accepted" is the hot issue today, my views are: really sad. People (society) should live and let live, and accept people for who they are. I don't understand the deeply felt hostility of many people, although it seems to me it's based in fear. Of what, I'm not sure.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Yes

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - No

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - Not at all. People are the way God made them.

Russ



When we love and give it everything we've got, no matter what the consequences, we are doing what we were put here to do -- Geneen Roth

russ
 


Survey

Postby GiftofAmber » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:11 pm

Age: 27

Gender: F

Sexuality: Bi (but monogamous-one person at a time, regardless of gender)

Marital status: Single

Where do you live (Country, County)? - Centre County, USA (State College, PA)

What religion are you (if any)? – Jewish

(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - First of all, I highly suggest a book called "Like Bread on the Seder Plate" as it explains that all the passages interpreted to be against homosexuality were actually against rape or otherwise misinterpreted.

What are your views on same-sex relationships? - I've seen good and bad ones: just like opposite sex relationships

What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Equality. Why shouldn't I be able to marry the person I love, regardless of gender?

What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - I know people who were raised by lesbians who turned out AOK.

What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - It was hard enough accepting myself without having to worry about how everyone else was going to see me.

Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Of course.

Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - No.

Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - This is a funny question, considering it exists in animals. No, I don't think I would choose to be homosexual/bisexual. I'm interested in who I am interested in.



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - I'm really not actually in many areas of my life; job security and all. Most people I am friends with found out eventually, usually from my ex-girlfriends. Family, well, not really going there.

What were the reactions of the people you told? - I didn't exactly tell them. I kind of feel like, it's no one's business who I'm interested in. When they figured it out, usually shock.

Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – Family, coworkers.

Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – In a previous job, I was actually placed into the position of having to tell my boss, which was incredibly difficult for me to do, but because of my job requirements and the fact that some people in my personal life were spilling over into my work life, she needed to know. She immediately responded with, you didn't tell me that. She was however cool about it and treated me the same afterwards; she even brainstormed with me how to keep some people from finding out.



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Re: Project on gay rights - need Kittens help!

Postby Grimlock72 » Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:36 pm

Age: 30+ :)

Gender: Male

Sexuality: Straight

Marital status: Single

Where do you live (Country, County)? Netherlands

What religion are you (if any)? None (atheist it's called I think)



(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says?



No (I was raised somewhat with the bible so I know the theories;-).



What are your views on same-sex relationships? - As long as it doesn't effect me, feel free. I've never understood much of the interest surrounding that issue anyway. Obviously non-gay people wont be affected so why are some of them so much against it ? Why tell other people how to live if it doesn't affect you ??



What are your views on same-sex marriage? - Marriage is a formalized long-term relationship imo. If you really want to call it 'marriage' or 'civil union', I don't care. Some people seem really hung up on the word 'marriage'. Either way 'marriage' is NOT a label that proves two people love each other. As you might know, in the Netherlands you can choose either a 'civil union' or 'marriage' by law (theoretically no church has to go along with marriage for gays but we got LOTS of churches wo do;-).



What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - Adopting parents get screened over here, so no problems there. Heck, ALL parents should be screened in my opinion :) The only problem I can think of would be the child missing a mother/father-figure, I have no idea if and how that would affect a child (never had psych. at Uni;) . I think same-sex couples will be well aware of possible problems, since getting a child into such a couple takes much more planning and preparation.



What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - Over here people just don't mind/care much about them. Just don't go making-out in the middle of the street much :) That goes for het-couples as well though.



Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Yep, even one who studied religion (4 year study on University). As such I do know quite a lot about religious nonsense and bible-abuse (misquoting, out-of-context). As the WestWing-post above showed you can do a LOT when using the bible as justify-me tool. I guess that annoys me the most about such religion-motivated reasons... at least have the nerve to say YOU don't like it as opposed to using a 2000 year old book as excuse.. (avoiding rant here)



Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - Hardly, if anything I was glad for him/her they figured it out. Nope, even after thinking REALLY hard about this one I can't find to much changed (getting used to them having same-sex friends, thats about it). Did make me more interested in the entire gay-rights troubles (most of the gays I know are male-gay which appears to less accepted compared to lesbians).



Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - Define 'natural' :) The sex (act) might be not entirely what the human body is designed for, but love is universal and natural. And since the sex between consenting adults doesn't hurt anybody I refer to my live-and-let-live policy above :lol .



Besides which, not everything 'natural' is by definition 'good'. That seems to be what some people using the 'it is not natural' argument like to believe, which makes no sense.



Hmm... this does make me wonder what all those reli-people oppose more... the sex or the love ?? Here's another question, are there people who oppose same-sex relations who are NOT religious ?? I'm truly wondering about that.



I guess that was more answering then you needed, sorry :lol .



Grimmy

--
"You hurt Tara," Willow said too calmly. "The last one who tried that was a god. I made her regret it." -- Unexpected Consequences by Lisa of Nine

Edited by: Grimlock72 at: 11/29/04 4:38 pm
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Re: Project on gay rights - need Kittens help!

Postby Rhiannon9891 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:44 pm

Age:41

Gender:Female

Sexuality:Lesbian

Marital status:Widow (my partner of 15 years passed away recently).



Where do you live (Country, County)? - USA, North Carolina



What religion are you (if any)? – Wiccan but Raised Roman Catholic



(If you are Christian) Do you disagree with same sex couples because of what the bible says? - no



What are your views on same-sex relationships? - woo and hoo



What are your views on same-sex marriage? - I support it, if it were legal for me, then I wouldn't be going through the sh*t I am now trying to settle our estate.



What are your views on same-sex couples adopting children? - It should be the same as any other couple.



What are your views on how same-sex relationships are accepted/not accepted by society? - It's tragic how many ignoranrt a**holes there are out there.



Do you know anyone that is a homosexual? - Yes



Has knowing they were gay changed your views on them? - No



Do you think homosexuality is unnatural? - No



If you are gay, it would be helpful if you could please answer these questions about your own experiences.



How did you find coming out about your sexuality (thoughts, feelings, fears?) - I never "officially" came out to anyone,if they figured it out - great, if not - how dumb/ignorant are they.Although there were fears,living in the "bible belt" life could get harder,we never showed displays of affection in public.



What were the reactions of the people you told? - N/A



Are there some people you haven’t told for any specific reason? – Yes



Who was the hardest person to tell and why? – N/A



Rhiannon



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