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Re: Been a while

Postby Gatito Grande » Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:27 pm

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My mum's been pretty bitchy, grounding me from anything she thinks made me gay (Amber/the Kitten/Buffy/ect.)




Oh puh-leez . . . :sigh



Hang in there Rei! :pride



GG You *could* try " . . . it was in your and daddy's genes, mum!" :p But maybe, better say nothing. Out

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Re: Been a while

Postby xita » Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:18 pm

AshWeezer, yeah sometimes just having someone else know how you feel is half the battle. Don't worry you don't have to decide or pick a label. I think it sounds like you know who you want to be with and that's what is important. I imagine that finding people you can talk to about this will make it easy to find the strength to face family and friends. So yeah, take the advice given here, join the chat, that is the easiest way to make friends here. Also I am sure many kittens would offer themselves up as email buddies, such as myself. Feel free to email me xita@xita.org :)

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Re: Been a while

Postby intricate mirage » Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:56 am

Hey AshWeezer, I've had a couple of friends who had been in your situation before. They did take quite some time to figure it out but there was no hurry. I guessed it did help that they had a circle of friends whom they could talk with about their sexuality preferences and pour out their worries about their stages of denial. It made them feel slightly more at ease, knowing that there was a group of friends who understand. Either way, there's no need to define yourself, all that matters is that you're happy with the one you're with. Feel free to drop me a mail anytime if you wish to chat (email address is in the profile) :)

Cassie





Ask me if I loved you yesterday. I'll say 'Yes'

Ask me if I love you today. I'll say 'Yes'

Ask me if I'll love you tomorrow. I'll say 'Always'





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Re: Been a while

Postby AshWeezer » Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:27 am

Thanks for the advice Xita and Intricate Mirage. :)



Oh and Xita, wow, like you replied to one of my replies. You're like famous lol. Well to me. Cuz I came here to the boards about a year before I registered and you're one of the moderators and you post all the time, I really cant explain it but wow. I'm excited. lol. You rule.



~Sheena~

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby DarkChild » Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:33 pm

um...hi.



I've looked around here a bit and um...I'm kinda wondering how to tell if you're gay. Most people here seem to be talking about what's happened after, and so...I feel very nervous writing this.



I'm not really sure. I mean, how can I tell.



Is it normal for a girl to read and write stories about two girls in a relationship? I am now even thinking about having a lesbian main character in book that I am writing. I don't know how people would react to that.



Um...let's see. I'm a VERY big W/T fan.



I honestly don't know how to tell. Emabarrassing as this is, I can barely remember having crushes. Let alone what they've felt like. So...I'd be thanful for some advice. Thanx.

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby ambersagoddess » Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:33 pm

DarkChild,



Ahh, gotta love that feeling- are you or aren't you?



There are quite a few straight Kittens, I can think of three off the top of my head.



I was a big W/T fan long before I realized I was gay.



Just because you like W/T doesn't mean you have to be gay, as far as I can remember there's no law.



If you have a hunch that you may be gay, feel free to email me and I'll try to help you out. If not, feel free to email me and I'll try to help you out anyway.



This is a great place to be unsure of yourself, one of the best.



We Kittens just love everybody.



Meow



-Rei

Spero eorum amo donbit tu animus magnamus



Why yes, the rumors are true, I have patted the Great One's ass...

ambersagoddess
 


Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby xita » Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:08 am

Hey Darkchild, that's kind of hard to figure out when you just don't have many crushes , period. I think maybe as you get older (i am not sure of your age) that may happen more often and that will help you figure it out. Still there are people who aren't very sexual/romantic. Liking w/t is certainly not a reason to be gay. I think many people love them because their love is just so :heart sigh.

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Just need someone to listen I guess

Postby nothingman » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:29 pm

Hey to anyone that is willing to listen (or read in this case)

I guess I just need to talk…things are weighing heavy on the mind, body and soul right now and I know that some of you out there have been through this stuff before. I suppose I am just going to take this time to vent and let it all out….

I posted here once before asking for some advice and/or words of encouragement because of the stuff I was going through with my straight best friend. To make a long story short I’m so in love with her I can’t see straight and even with the good advice given to me I still find myself going crazy. I don’t know what is happening to me, I have changed so much and the more I try to get past the feelings the more distant and confused I get. The problem I am having now is that I have just moved to LA and don’t know anyone, all my friends and everything that I felt was safe is gone (well far away) and she is the only one here. Sometimes it’s so bad it hurts to look at her. We have been having fight after fight lately…the really emotional kind, and its almost like I am trying to give her reasons to break the friendship off (even though I don’t want to) so I don’t have to do it…and then every time I try to break it off myself she won’t let me go…and part of me doesn’t want her to let me. It’s so complicated, our friendship is a deep one and it was even before my feelings for her changed. If I were to describe what we had between us it would be everything short of a romantic relationship. I find myself wishing it wasn’t like that. I wish it could be more superficial. I wish the connection wasn’t there. She loves the connection we have, but I have pushed myself so far away now I don’t know what is happening. She wants that connection and she wants it to be what it was, but she knows it is destroying me. I don’t know how to love her and be ok with it. I don’t know how to give her what she needs and what I need at the same time. I don’t know how to I can live with her in my life or without her at this point. I don’t want to feel like I am sacrificing something all the time. It makes me so mad that she has a part of me she doesn’t want…and I can’t get back. I’ve felt lonely before, I have felt misunderstood before, but now I don’t even want to wake up in the morning. Everything so new here, and my luck has seemed to run out…

I know that I can survive without her in my life if I had to but everything looks so bleak. I know I will never have the same kind of connection again…which is a silly thing to say because connections are always different between different people…but you know what I mean. I have tried to separate myself from her but in the meantime it feels like I have separated myself from everyone and I don’t even know who I am anymore. It’s like an out of body experience, I am getting up everyday, doing what I have to do, talking to the people that are there, but the whole time I am not there and I am watching myself. Ahhhhh…..I feel like I am going mad. I feel like my heart is missing, I can’t even cry anymore. I don’t know, all I know is I don’t know what else to do, or who else to talk to, I have tried so many other things…but no one I know has been in this particular position of confusion and whatever else it is….so I come here because I know someone will read this and relate. Maybe all I need is someone to understand or for someone who has made it to tell me that I will make it….I don’t know. I suppose I could ramble on forever, but I won’t and I apologize to those of you who read this…I know it was long and lame. Thank you for taking the time to read this…I am going to stop before it gets more to the point of crazy long. Thanks again.

-Dayna



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Willow: You two are the two who are the two. I'm the other one. (The Yoko Factor)

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RE:Just need someone to listen I guess

Postby eveningstar845 » Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:05 am

Hi Dayna,

I think I know exactly how you feel. I've been there, falling for your straight best friend. Love that you cannot have. Letting it out helps. I used to write to another friend to vent about it. Because I just didn't wanna talk or do anything. Being with her just hurt. I felt hopeless, confused and lost. It ended when she moved away to college. We're still friends, talk once in a while. And I think it's better this way. 'cause I know it will never happen.

All I can tell you is that you need some space, sometimes away from her. Times will heal. Then you can be friends again.

I hope this helps. I wish the best for you. If you want to talk just send me a msg at my e-mail or MSN msg here: eveningstar845@hotmail.com. I'll be glad to talk.

take care,

Dee

eveningstar845
 


Re: RE:Just need someone to listen I guess

Postby ambersagoddess » Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:28 am

I think everyone falls for their straight best friend at one point, they're usually the person you look up to most and love most in your life.



And, as humans, we have a tendancy to want most the things we know we can't have.



Tell a kid he can't have a cookie and he'll steal it behind your back. (sneaky little bugger)



Anyway, I really have to get to school, but I'll be on later if you need to talk.



Contact info's in my profile.



-Rei

There were only first days following one another.The third was the first,the fourth was the first,the seventy-first was the first.The first day was the three thousandth.-The Fixer

ambersagoddess
 


Re: RE:Just need someone to listen I guess

Postby nothingman » Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:02 am

ambersagoddess and eveningstar845

Thanks to both of you for offering to talk, that means alot to me, and I might just take you up on that offer sometime...cuz things don't seem to be going any easier at the moment. It helps to know that others understand and have been there before.

Thanks again to both of you :)

-Dayna

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Willow: You two are the two who are the two. I'm the other one. (The Yoko Factor)

Edited by: nothingman  at: 2/4/04 11:03 pm
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geez oh geez...

Postby Spikeizmine87 » Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:02 pm

I dont even know if this is the right place to put this but eh....i will just rant on and if it needs to be moved, mods, feel free...



I wont make this long, well it will be but not too long as all my other stupid rantings are...i went to a friends party last night and a girl who really likes me was there too, i like her as well but its not deep feelings like i have had in the past. so as the night progressed, she drags me into a room...shoulda been the best right? It wasnt. We started kissing, and im scared and nervous as hell cause this girl has had more experiance then me so hence my nerves, well i stopped and so we just layed on the bed. For me it was really nice just cuddling and all that. That's the type of person I am, I would rather just cuddle and be affectionate other then me intimate. Yes, people have told me that I AM crazy because of this....so afterwards i went home. Feeling VERY VERY happy and content. But all day today Ive been feeling really mad at myself and I feel so dumb. I called my friend whos party it was and she said they were all talking about it. The girls friend knows that she is a lil sex pot and she didnt believe her when the girl said we basically just layed there and cuddled. And when asked if she wanted to do more with me she said "Hell yes!" She doesnt understand the way I am when it comes to that. I feel like right then she was just wondering what the hell my problem is. And Im wondering that too. Its making me question myself. So Ive "been gay" for 2 years, but why is it, when I start to get intimate with a girl, I freak out and stop? I did have a Gf for a year, but she was like me, into just being affectionate, so we had no problems. I dont want to make this girl mad, I would like to persue a relationship but i know she likes being intimate, so whats wrong with me? Im a lesbian whos not into any of that stuff? I cant help but doubt my own sexuality when it took me so long to figure out. Help would be greatly apperiacted! Please kittens, help!! Thank you so much! :confused :| :spin



-Rose



-Rose

The only thing I hate in the world, is people who are dishonest with themselves. And people who smell.

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Re: geez oh geez...

Postby ambersagoddess » Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:42 pm

lol, don't worry, nothing's wrong with you!



the majority of the chat kittens would scoff if they ever saw this, but I'm more of a cuddly person as well.



I'm quite content to just snuggle, and often turn down sex for affectionate cuddles.



There's nothing wrong with it, some people are just more touch-y feel-y than others.



-Rei

There were only first days following one another.The third was the first,the fourth was the first,the seventy-first was the first.The first day was the three thousandth.-The Fixer

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Re: geez oh geez...

Postby Gatito Grande » Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:08 pm

Rose (and everybody else here), please don't take this the wrong way---



There is nothing wrong w/ cuddling. There is nothing wrong w/ you, if cuddling is the only kind of physical intimacy you want (or need). But . . . is it possible that there is another kind of person, w/ whom you would might want another kind of intimacy? Intimacy, for example, of the kind that leads to orgasm (in whatever way you may experience that)? Another kind of girl (or boy), another kind of touch, another kind of setting?



Once again, I am in no way saying that "orgasm-intimacy" is better than cuddling-intimacy. But I'm just wondering if the type of intimacy you enjoy, is at all dependent on the kind of partner(s) you enjoy it with.



It's OK to like different kinds of intimacy w/ different kinds of people (just the way that it's OK to only like one kind of intimacy, w/ one kind of partner).



Rose, just give yourself space to like what you like, w/ whom you like it. You don't have to prove anything to anyone, whether you're meeting someone else's definition of "lesbian" (and it's also OK to not be lesbian, or it's OK to continue to question :hmm ).



Just focus on the kind of person you want to be close to, and how you would like to be close to them. That's all there is---it's not about labels. :pride



GG As Barbra sang: "People . . . People Who Need People . . . are the Luckiest People . . . in the World" :heart Out

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby WinterSun01 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:54 am

I have the same problem. I'm fine with cuddling, resting in my sweetie's arms, but how do i SAY that?? When she wants to do more, how do i say that.. you know, i don't want to do that all just yet?

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby Modjadji » Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:18 pm

spikeizmine: Hey, girl, I been there. Sex can be tricky, and sometimes cuddling is easier and more chilled. The only advice I have to you is not to worry and to do what you feel is right at the time. Just as everyone's been saying, there's nothing wrong with just wanting to hold someone. In fact, it can be as intimate as sex itself if the timing and the person are right.



I do feel like there are some major nerves involved here, though. Just remember that "orgasm-intimacy" is about sharing something special, not about "performing". I was also nervous around the whole intimacy issue with my first gf, but she was awesome about it, and pretty much made me wait until I was so sure about ripping her clothes off I thought I might explode :eyebrow . Cuddling is great because it's safe, relaxing and easy, but just remember that taking the 'big leap' with the right person (when you're ready, and not before) can be amazing. Until you're comfortable, don't put so much pressure on yourself. It doesn't matter what you do with a person, as long as you both enjoy it.



WinterSun: My top advice to you is 'just say it'! However, sometimes it can be a bit of a blow, so make sure the special someone knows she's still the sexiest girl on the planet. Just make it clear that you're not quite on that bandwagon yet, and if she's worth it, she'll be happy you told her.



Keep up that kitten spirit!



Mojo.

No matter how short life may seem, it's still the longest thing you'll ever do.

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby Spikeizmine87 » Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:45 pm

hey thanks to all the kittens who responded. Sadly, something deeper and more mind confussing and i dont know how to feel about this. i found out just 10 mins ago that the girl (we had decided to become something...i was gonna be her valentine 2morrow) well she went to a party last night with a friend, heres me thinkin that she wouldnt do anything. well yeah she did, she made out with some chick and had sex w a guy for the first time. SO what am i supposed to think about this? We just decided things last nite before she went to the party. So should I be mad? Should I not talk to her? She was suppsed to call me, we were supposed to go to a show tonight to see my friends band. But now I think she wont call me. She DID call me last nite at like 10 but i was sleeping. I dont know how to feel right now. I think I liked her more then i really thought. What can I do?? Thanks.

:( :mad :fit :confused :angry

-Rose

The only thing I hate in the world, is people who are dishonest with themselves. And people who smell.

Spikeizmine87
 


Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby Angel Bunny Girl » Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:31 pm

The Raped Avenger- *cough*slut*cough*



Rei (the more sensible of the two)- Well, I have to go with The Raped Avenger on this one, she shouldn't have done that, I won't go to her extreme and call your friend a slut. I will, however, say that I think she made a bad choice and shouldn't have done that, but, we all make mistakes, me included (sorry!) and things happen. In my personal opinion, I think you should talk to her, find out her side of what happend, and work things from there.



-Rei (and The Raped Avenger):kitty :sheep



Angelycia Shenron Sunchild Frienz

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby Repost Moderator » Fri May 21, 2004 1:46 pm

Originally posted by EndlessD




Um Hi everyone. There um, isn't really a thread for this. There's one, but most people on it aren't exactly confused.



So...



I think I might be gay. I don't know though. I...I don't know. I feel kinda left out when my friends talk about guys and I've never really had any crushes so...



Can someone here please help me.

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby ambersagoddess » Sat May 22, 2004 9:24 am

Hey, I have a friend who is in your situation, she's been out as bi for as long as I can remember, but she's been really confused, she sent me a letter and I thought it might help you, to see if it's what you're feeling too:



"...how did you know? Did you get bored with guys? ... I don't really feel like I can connect with guys like I can connect with Amanda (side note: amanda's her girlfriend) And I'm not sure if it's because she's my first love or what...my brothers friends have been coming over lately and they like me and I like hanging out and I even went to the movies but when they start talking about relationships it freaks me out...Amanda calls me and wants to go out and I"m like Helll Yeah. Chicks don't bother me but just the thought of being with a guy is weird but I can't really know for sure because I'm still a virgin...I love amanda and I have never felt that way with any guy..."



Just some excerpts from it. I didn't really know how to respond to the letter, and so I don't really know how to respond to your feelings, but I just wanted to see if that'd help you at all, maybe that's how you feel or something.



-Rei :kitty :sheep

There were only first days following one another.The third was the first,the fourth was the first,the seventy-first was the first.The first day was the three thousandth.-The Fixer

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Spikeizmine

Postby Iamyouknowyours » Sun May 23, 2004 1:44 am

We all make stupid mistakes, so her little night of misadventure may well have been just that. Perhaps she was feeling a little insecure as to where she stood with you and was trying to get a confidence boost, especially since it was her first time with a guy. Although given the fact that you had previously called her a sexpot, I wonder if this isn't typical behavior for her. Does she normally strive toward committed, monogomous relationships or one night stands? It sounds to me you like you need/are looking for a girlfriend, not a quicky. I would caution you in getting overly involved with someone that seems flakey. Take things slowly. I really don't want to see you get your heart broken.



Cuddling IS often better than sex in its own way (although I am definitely NOT knocking orgasms). You'll know when you feel ready to make that next step, and if you're nervous or awkward at the time that's ok. I was a nervous wreck my first time. I think girls tend to be. Perfect sex scenes only exist in movies. The best advice I can give you (for when the time comes) is be honest and open with the other person. Tell them what you like and how and where you like it and listen to to the same from them. I'd recommend a good book on the subject, but sadly I don't really know of one in particular. But I'm sure that some other kitten must be better read than me.

Iamyouknowyours
 


Some thoughts

Postby Split Padawan » Fri May 28, 2004 6:21 pm

For nine months or so, I've been seriously questioning my sexuality... It really didn't start there though. Throughout my life I've had stages of wondering if I was gay or bi. It was never a big issue because I simply didn't date anyone. I was always the tomboy (and still am). A few significant periods in my life have made me wonder if my straight life was just a lie.



In high school, I had a huge crush on one of my best girl friends - to the point that I almost told her about it. That was the first situation that if things would have worked out differently, I may have acted on my attraction to her. I did mention it to two of our mutual friends. I had to tell someone, it was driving me crazy. Telling them also made the situation more real. I was facing it. But that whole circle of friends fell apart and all contact was lost.



Off to college, where I met this amazing guy. We had so much in common and were soon in love. Any questioning faded; I found my "place" in the heterosexual world. I was following the dating "recipe." Then along came another amazing person, a woman. We were great friends, just friends. During one semester, we had the opportunity to spend a lot of time together and I noticed that I was becoming attracted to her. It wasn't to the point of attempting to cheat on my boyfriend to experiment, but there was the realization that I still was attracted to girls. She also had a boyfriend and showed absolutely no signs of reciprocating my feelings. I never said anything to anyone about it.



By graduation, I was totally in love with my boyfriend. We decided to take the next big step and make it a forever thing and get married. Things started to go downhill soon after. Personally I wasn't happy for numerous reasons, but most importantly I was starting to lose my physical attraction to him.



During this time, I discovered Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I was hooked immediately. I thought that Willow and Tara were excellent characters from the beginning. It was great to see lesbians portrayed on television, and not just for two seconds. During my life I haven't known any lesbians, period. So even if it was just a television show, it was important to me. Something clicked - maybe that's how I was supposed to be, like Willow and Tara. So that messed with my mind a little - is a TV show really making me question one of the most defining aspects of my life? I thought about it a lot and figured out that seeing this relationship was just a catalyst for something that has been with me for quite a while.



Present day - I feel like my marriage is spiraling out of control, and it's my fault. I am distancing myself from him more and more every day. Things are imploding. I know it, he knows it. Part of it is that I'm still not comfortable in the adult world - still don't have a job I like, etc. But he doesn't know the rest of story. The biggest part is that I am questioning my sexuality. It has been a secret struggle - this is the first time that I've put any of my thoughts into words.



Recently I was in a situation where I met a lot of new people. I felt an attraction to one woman in particular. So proof was there once again. I felt horrible guilt for thinking of anyone but my husband. On top of meeting this new person, I still miss spending time with my college friend. I'm still attracted to her too, but know that there is no chance of anything ever happening there.



I look down the road a few years... 10 years... 15 years... and it scares me. Am I still going to be as miserable as I am now? Marriage is tough; no one ever said that it was easy. But we as a couple skipped over the "honeymoon" period. It's been rough sailing for most of the marriage. For a long time before the wedding, I was completely happy and eager to live out my years with him. (Otherwise, why would you get married, right?) Thinking about something and then actually living it out are completely two different things, and I'm getting to understand that every day. My fire is gone, and I don't know if I can ever get it back. I don't want to be sitting here 15 years later with regrets, wondering what I've been doing. You only get one chance at this life.



So I don't know what this essay really is. Probably part getting things off my chest and part cry for help.

Split Padawan
 


Re: Some thoughts

Postby maudmac » Fri May 28, 2004 7:45 pm

Welcome to the Kitten, Split Padawan! Glad you found us.



Your situation is obviously complicated. But you are certainly not alone.



I think we all owe it to ourselves to be happy. Who benefits from living a lie?



It's soooo hard, though. I know it is. I know very well how impossibly difficult it can feel. You'll never know what the future holds until you get there. All you can do is chart the course you think is most likely to bring you happiness and work hard to take care of yourself. Easier said than done, I know.



Just know you're not alone. Whatever you decide is best for you, I wish you the best.


and i don't really care if you think i'm strange   /   i ain't gonna change

maudmac
 


Re: Some thoughts

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri May 28, 2004 8:16 pm

SP (BTW, welcome to the Kitten! :bigwave ),



I have a huge amount in common w/ your story (that is, I did a few years ago). Only my "catalytic" TV show was Xena! :p



Does your husband know anything about your attraction to women? (because mine did from the beginning: I was out as bi to him)



I think you already know that things can't just continue on the way they are. I was determined to stay w/ my husband (there wasn't any particular "other woman"), and he left me anyway.



You need to talk to him, and be honest. Just try to express it in terms of your feelings---and listening to his feelings---w/o a predetermined "therefore I will/we should do _______." Maybe you need to break up, and maybe you don't. But I believe the future will look a lot brighter for the both of you, whatever you decide to do, if you can come to a decision together.



GG Good luck and God bless. :peace If you need to talk off the board, you can reach me at tgflux@excite.com Out

Gatito Grande
 


Re: Some thoughts

Postby urnofosiris » Sat May 29, 2004 1:39 am

Quote:
I don't want to be sitting here 15 years later with regrets, wondering what I've been doing. You only get one chance at this life.




I know exactly what you mean by that, I have had the very same thoughts. I am transgendered and for the first 30 years of life I lived, not really a lie, but not a truth either. Life was good, I could live it. I was not miserable, but what unsettled me greatly was thinking about 15 years from now or imagining waking up one day an 80 year old looking back upon my life and regret not having taken the road that I know I wanted to, the one that gave the greatest chance of happiness.



I always had an excuse to postpone my decision and take the final plunge, I waited till I had thought of every possible pro and con a 1000 times till there was simply nothing left to think about. The thought about the future is what finally made me act. That was only 3 years ago and the only regrets I have now is that I did not do this a lot sooner.



I can´t tell you what to do, our situations are obviously not the same and being married certainly complicates things. I hope things will work out for you and (to speak in cheesy metaphors) that you´ll find the road that will make you happy, though the way to there will probably be a bit bumpy.



Edited out a typo because I am anally retentive that way...

Edited by: DrG at: 5/30/04 12:31 am
urnofosiris
 


Re: Some thoughts

Postby Split Padawan » Sat May 29, 2004 8:14 pm

maudmac, Gatito Grande, and DrG:



Thank you for your advice and support. It was good for me to read about your own experiences.

Split Padawan
 


Re: Some thoughts

Postby Repost Moderator » Mon May 31, 2004 9:21 am

Originally posted by Darciana




I'm living a lesbian Cliche. I date guys, hook up with beautiful wonderful best friend, she leaves....well the cliche is completed, in grief I go on meds for insanity, am "rehibilitated" and go back to dating men. Ashley would hate me...:sob

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Re: The Lesbian/Gay/Bi/Trans/Questioning/Issues Thread

Postby Repost Moderator » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:39 pm

Originally posted by Dementia187



This is Katie (aka Ryan), and I thought I'd come and say some things that'll help get rid of all the stress... You see when I was a little boy, my sister use to dress me up in her clothes, and I forever wished I was born a girl after that... I also remember watching movies like "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar", and HBO documentaries about dragqueens and saying how lucky they are, and thinking "Hey, that's what I wanna be when I grow up..." I've tried really hard to stop wanting to be a girl, and to stop dressing in women's clothes, but for some damn reason... I just can't get rid of it... I guess its true what they say though, old habbits die hard... I'm 17 years old (I'll be 18 in March) and I'm in the 12th Grade... I dunno what's after High School, but I do see a glimpse of the future... Me having my own place, having a beautiful wardrobe of women's clothes, and having a long blonde wig... The only shame though is that I'll probably never have anyone to love, I'll never become what I always wanted to be, and I'll always beat myself down because in my heart I know the outside world doesn't want a change in the system... If only I could meet the one that could help me transform into what I always wanted to be and more...



PS: Sorry if I talked to much or something...:yikes

Edited by: DrG at: 12/20/04 12:47 pm
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Deju vu

Postby Lil Miss Kitten » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:55 am

Wow. This is so great! I didnt realise just how many people there were having all the same issues I am!



Ill try to keep it brief...



I loved boys. All through school I loved the boys. Luke was cute, Owen was cute, oooooh dont even get me started on Kelvin! These boys were little Justin Timberlakes...without the slutty dancers hanging off them and the bling bling jewellery. Even in high school...I spent more time writing notes to friends about the flavour-of-the-week-boy than actually doing school work. At university I liked and had a brief dating encounter with a total hottie (a good christian boy who had an abundance of girls waiting in line to share their favourite bible verses with him). But he was too goody-too-shoes and I realised I liked him because he was gorgeous and everyone else liked him...i wasnt realy all that attracted to him.



Then I met HER. She was just a good friend at first. We hit it off straight away...became best buddies in a matter of weeks. After two or three months of awkward conversations and outings as "friends" we finally admitted our attraction to eachother. Three years later we are still "together".



BUT...no one knows! Well...Im sure that people know...family members, close friends. But we've never outed ourselves and no one ever says anything to us about it! Ive overheard people talking about us...and saying how cute a couple we were...but I just cant ever imagine actually telling people we know about us! It kills me! I love her to death and I know she feels the same. But the fear of being labelled keeps us quiet about it all. Family members act like we're together without actually SAYING anything about it.And if anyone ever DOES say something we both go into defensive denial response!



I like other girls...but I still like other boys too. So that makes me bi right? I spose thats not even the issue for me. I dont care if people know that. I dont even care if people think im just straight out gay. What I hate is that I cant just walk down the street holding her hand. I cant squeeze her and cuddle when she does something adorable in public.



Heres why...

When we first got together I told my two best friends. BEST FRIENDS of 6 YEARS. (one of whom thought that itd be hot if Charlies Angels had a threesome - hello! if thats not a lesbo fantasy i dunno what is!) One of them reacted quite badly, the other just shrugged it off and was ok about it....about a month later its like they disappeared off the face of the planet! They stoped talking, emailing, everything. So I guess they werent really "friends" after all. But it sucks. I loved them like sisters and now they dont want anything to do with me.



I dont know where Im actually going with this....I said Id keep it brief but I could go on forever! Too many issues!



Sorry for babbling! I forgot what my actual point was!Oh well....heres the moral of the story....



I love her, she loves me. And together we LOVE Willow and Tara. And anyone who decides that they dont want to know me because of it...can just kiss my bi-sexual little ass :moo :gnome





Lil Miss Kitten
 


Re: Deju vu

Postby skittles » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:06 am

Lil Miss Kitten, you can babble as much as you want.

We'll listen. You may not see us, but we're listening.

Some of us are just very quiet.



:kitty

skittles



Scrooge was better than his word. He did it all, and infinitely more… He became as good a friend, as good a master, and as good a man, as the good old city knew.. and it was always said of him, that he knew how to keep Christmas well, if any man alive possessed the knowledge. May that be truly said of us, and all of us! And so, as Tiny Tim observed, God bless Us, Every One!

skittles
 

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