No one here gets out alive. Dead artist thread.

[urnofosiris]

Is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences the one that hands out oscars? In any case; what a bunch of arrogant fucks. I wonder whether they will commemorate him at the next oscars.

Edited by: DrG at: 10/6/04 2:07 am

[Spikeizmine87]

Here i was sitting in my room reading, then the mom comes in telling me "Superman died." "wait, what?" Christopher reeves aka super man died. Its not out on the net, it was on the news...must have been complications due to his spinal injury..."sigh" yes im young but i liked the superman movies, thats why I watch Smallville on the WB. Peolple keep dying....sad sad sad....

-rose

I didnt know what being happy was till i found you, i didnt know what love meant till i loved you.

[emma peel]

I just logged on. I have cnn.com as my home page and it said something to the effect that Christopher Reeve died at the age of 52 after lapsing into a coma, according to his publicist. I didn't see any further info.

So sad. He was so courageous, a real hero.

Edited to add a link with updated info:www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/...index.html

Edited by: emma peel at: 10/10/04 11:03 pm

[Stroke of Luck]

Heard it in the radio right now and i they said something about a heart attack! And he was so sure, that he will walk again.....



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SoL/Natti

"I wish that you were here or that I were there, or that we were together anywhere!"

[Gatito Grande]

I just heard this on the BBC. It's tremendously sad, but the work he did (for spinal cord injuries, etc.) will live on.



GG And I believe that, where he is now, he not only walks, but Runs Free Out

[xita]

It is very sad because of how sure he was. I am sad that he didn't get to live to see that.

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"Trust is a risk masquerading as a promise."

[urnofosiris]

It had almost been ten years since his accident. I guess not even the best care could prevent these complications from getting to him in the end. I admire his spirit and will to keep fighting against the odds, who knows what he would have accomplished in another 10 years.

[Rosenberg]

I just watched Christopher Reeve’s biography on A&E tonight and was once again reminded about how courageous and disciplined he was after his accident. He continued to fight for research into spinal cord injuries and lobbied for research funding. He also continued to work at acting and directing and, ironically, the last film he directed is the true story of a woman, Brooke Ellison, who had an injury similar to his. It will be aired on October 25 on A&E.



Ken Caminiti also died this weekend at the age of 41. He was one of the best fielding third basemen I’ve ever seen and he was an excellent hitter too. Unfortunately, steroids and cocaine took their toll on his body and he paid the ultimate price. What a terrible waste.

[seurat]

This might be stretching the definition of "artist" a litte bit, since John Peel was best known as a dj and Greg Shaw as a indie record label founder and fanzine publisher. I never met either of them, and rarely heard Peel since he worked for the BBC. Shaw's great fanzine Bomp folded many years ago and I can't remember the last time I heard anything new released on the Bomp label. But I know I first heard countless bands becasue of both of them. The Peel sessions are justly famous recordings, with something for everyone. And Bomp could fairly be said to have launched the entire music fanzine world and was one of the first iindie labels that I can recall. Losing both of them in the space of a few days seems unfair. Peel was 65, Shaw 55, obits of both were in the New York Times today.

"Life's complications and frustrations/they disappear when the music starts playing/I found a place where it feels alright/I hear a record and it opened my eyes/do you remember what the music meant?" - Speakers Push Air, Pretty Girls Make Graves

[skittles]

from Reuters news service

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Controversial Dutch filmmaker shot dead

Tue 2 November, 2004 13:11



By Paul Gallagher and Anna Mudeva



AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A controversial Dutch filmmaker who outraged Muslims by branding imams women-haters has been stabbed and shot dead in Amsterdam, shocking the Netherlands where the killing was denounced as an attack on free speech.



Theo van Gogh, a distant relative of 19th century Dutch painter Vincent van Gogh, sparked controversy with newspaper articles, books and films dealing with Islam after the September 11 attacks on the United States.



Van Gogh, 47, was attacked near a park close to the centre of the Dutch capital on Tuesday morning. Police arrested a man at the scene after an exchange of gunfire in which the suspect wounded a police officer. The suspect was wounded in the leg.



The arrested man was a 26-year-old with dual Dutch and Moroccan citizenship, officials said. A letter had been found at the crime scene, police and prosecutors said in a news conference live on national radio.



The killing, which was widely condemned by Muslim groups, could raise the political temperature in the Netherlands where security for politicians was stepped up after the killing of anti-immigration populist Pim Fortuyn ahead of the May 2002 election in which his party captured second place.



Immigration, integration and Islam are burning issues in the Netherlands where outspoken parliamentarians such as Geert Wilders, an opponent of Turkish EU membership, have received death threats because of their views.



DEATH THREATS



Van Gogh's most recent film about a Muslim woman forced into an arranged marriage who is abused by her husband and raped by her uncle was shown on Dutch television earlier this year. He received death threats after "Submission" was broadcast.



He made the film with Dutch politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali refugee given Dutch citizenship after fleeing an arranged marriage 12 years ago. Hirsi Ali, who calls herself an ex-Muslim, has been under police protection since receiving death threats because of the film.



Several Muslim organisations in the Netherlands -- home to nearly one million Muslims or 5.5 percent of the population -- and mainstream Dutch newspapers attacked "Submission."



"He (Van Gogh) did receive death threats but he never took them quite seriously," a colleague at Van Gogh's film production company said, adding, "He was a controversial figure and a champion of free speech."



Van Gogh, who had been making a film about the killing of Fortuyn, made several films and also wrote a book called "Allah Knows Better" in which he attacks Islamic militancy and accuses imams, Muslim prayer leaders, of hating women.



The Dutch centre-right government has pushed for greater integration of immigrants through language tests and citizenship classes and has sparked controversy with plans to repatriate up to 26,000 failed asylum seekers.



"It is really terrible. Of course we don't know yet the reasons, so I cannot give a formal reaction," Dutch European Affairs Minister Atzo Nicolai said. "It reminds everybody of what happened to Pim Fortuyn."



According to a recent survey, many Dutch are afraid of the rising number of Muslims in their country and feel threatened by Islamic militants. The Netherlands gave political backing to the U.S-led invasion of Iraq and has around 1,300 troops there.

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skittles

Prepare the child for the path, not the path for the child.

under construction (looking for another quote).

[urnofosiris]

I was typing up this whole post, but I could write one a mile long and still not accurately describe what I am feeling or want to say. I won´t bother except to say that if there is any justice left in this world then at least George fucking Bush won´t get re-elected today. Don´t ask what this murder has to do with GW Bush in my mind or I will have to write that mile long post.

[concrete]

There is this incredible sense of disbelief, shock and intense anger, spread all over the country. Regardless of one’s opinion on Theo, whom you either adored or “hated” with a passion (passion being the operative word) he did have an impact on a lot of people and was never afraid to speak his mind and would not be intimidated or shy away from harsh confrontations. His feature documentary on women’s abuse for instance was done with great care and compassion and yes, it rubbed fundamentalists, religious zealots, the wrong way and I say: good for them! I for one did like him and admired him because no matter what, he was never ever boring. He will be sorely missed.

I have many skills....

[Gatito Grande]

I think I get you, G. Something like "Why the f*ck don't the chickens come home to roost in Crawford, Texas, where they belong?!"



GG I pray for peace, w/ justice, for the Dutch people (for all of us, actually). And working to make it that way, too! Out

[Gatito Grande]

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Posted: 14 Nov 2004 Genre: All

By: News Desk



Rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard dies suddenly aged 35



One of the most original and dynamic voices in rap has suddenly gone quiet.



Rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard, real name Russell Jones, collapsed and died suddenly in a Manhattan recording studio yesterday (13th November), aged just 35.



A founding member of seminal rap group Wu-Tang Clan and hugely respected solo artist, ODB had worked with artists including Mariah Carey on "Fantasy" and Kelis more recently on the hit single "Got Your Money".



Gabe Tesoriero, a spokesperson for Roc-A-Fella records, said the star had complained of chest pains but was dead before paramedics could arrive.



ODB, who had recently completed a spell in prison for drug possession, was working on his latest solo release - which was close to completion.



His mother, Cherry Jones, said: "To the public he was known as Old Dirty Bastard, but to me he was known as Rusty. The kindest most generous soul on earth."



Ol' Dirty Bastard, Russell Jones, 1968-2004 R.I.P

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GG Won't pretend to be hip enough to know his place in rap Out

[cattwoman98111]

I just heard this. Reggie White may not be considered an "artist" in the usual sense, but on the football field he was an artist in my mind.



NFL legend White passes away at 43                



NFL.com wire reports



HUNTERSVILLE, N.C. (Dec. 26, 2004) -- Reggie White, one of the greatest defensive players in NFL history, died the day after Christmas, his wife said. He was 43.



"Today our beloved husband, father and friend passed away," White's wife, Sara, said in a statement through a family pastor. "His family appreciates your thoughts and prayers as we mourn the loss of Reggie White. We want to thank you in advance for honoring our privacy."



A cause of death was not immediately known.



A two-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year, White played a total of 15 years with Philadelphia, Green Bay and Carolina. He retired in 2000 as the NFL's all-time leader in sacks with 198. The mark has since been passed by Bruce Smith.



"We are deeply saddened by the passing of one of the greatest men ever to play the game of football," Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said in a statement. "On behalf of the entire Eagles family, our condolences go out to his wife, Sara, to his children, and to all those who have been touched by Reggie throughout his life. His legacy on and off the football field will never be forgotten."

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction.

[Rosenberg]

I was listening to the Lions’ pre-game show on the radio when they mentioned the breaking news about Reggie White dying from a massive heart attack. I was stunned when I heard it because athletes are supposed to be semi-invincible and not pass away at the age of 43. I didn’t agree with his political or religious views and he made some rather thoughtless comments about certain groups of people, but I do have to admit that, on the football field, he was one of the best to play the game.

[walker]

This is from the Daily Record



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US Author Dies Aged 71



Award-winning author Susan Sontag, regarded as one of America's leading intellectuals, has died aged 71.



The writer died at New York's Sloan Kettering Hospital yesterday following a long battle with leukaemia.



Calling herself a "confessed moralist", Sontag was the author of 17 books and a life-long human rights activist.



She wrote several essays, plays and screenplays, and won the National Book Award in 2000 for historical novel In America.



Among her best known works was her 1964 study Notes on Camp, which popularised the "so bad it's good" attitude towards popular culture, applying it to everything from Swan Lake to feather boas.



Sontag won several awards, including the 2003 Peace Prize from the German Book Trade, the 2003 Prince of Austrias Prize and, in 1992, the Malaparte Prize in Italy.

If you've lost your faith in love and music the end won't be long - The Libertines

[WebWarlock]

www.chicagotribune.com/ne...i-news-hed

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Actor Jerry Orbach dies of prostate cancer



By Associated Press

Published December 29, 2004, 9:22 AM CST



"Law & Order" star Jerry Orbach has died of prostate cancer at age 69, a representative of the show said.



Orbach starred for 12 seasons in the original "Law & Order" series but left to head the spin-off "Law & Order: Trial by Jury," set to debut next year.



Orbach began playing detective Lennie Briscoe in 1992, the original show's third season.



Born in the Bronx, he was in the original cast of the off Off-Broadway hit "The Fantasticks" and has appeared in such films as "Dirty Dancing," "Prince of the City" and Woody Allen's "Crimes and Misdemeanors."

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Web Warlock, web.warlock@comcast.net, The Other Side.

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"But nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight"

- "Lovers In A Dangerous Time", Bruce Cockburn.

[emma peel]

Warlock, you beat me to it about Jerry Orbach. I really loved his character Briscoe, of Law & Order.

I'm really going to miss him, even though I can see him practically every night on reruns of L&O on TNT. Yay, TNT!

Going off to sniffle, now...

[oneyedchicklet]

I really loved Jerry Orbach. My kids and I watch L&O and they always insisted he looked like my dad. I did actually see a slight resemblence. He also did the voice of Lumier in Beauty and the Beast which is my favorite Disney movie. The new L&O (Trial by Jury) was in production and was scheduled to air early next year. He will be sadly missed.



Love to All,

Barb

Now serving Bitter, party of one. Your table is ready.

[urnofosiris]

Ah damn, he was not that old. It feels like he has been around forever and never growing older. He always looked the same.

[xita]

He will be missed.

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"Trust is a risk masquerading as a promise."

[emma peel]

Orbach is supposed to be on the L&O ep tonight at 10pm Eastern on NBC. I'll be watching.

Here's a link (if it works) to a great article about Orbach as well as a video (the video took quite a while to load):

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6765565

[Gatito Grande]

Yeah, Jerry punched his clock Too Damn Early. {Bonk-Bonk} <- crude attempt at Briscoe-ism



Orbach had an incredible career: can you imagine two acting "types" more stereotypically antithetical, than consummately Hard-boiled Cop (and/or Gangster, as in Crimes and Misdemeanors) . . . and Musical Comedy Star??? (And I didn't know about the Lumiere thang till 5 minutes ago!)



GG Especially fond memories of Briscoe hitting on (for information, ostensibly) a lesbian nurse . . . and then laughing it off like he knew all along. A swing and a miss! Out

[Gatito Grande]

GG, in addition to being Ancient of Days, has musical tastes even older. I grew up loving Big Band Swing music, and no one better epitomized that music than Artie Shaw, one of art form's greatest innovators, perfectionists . . . and nutcases.

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Bandleader Artie Shaw Dies at 94



All Things Considered, December 30, 2004 · Bandleader, clarinetist and arranger Artie Shaw has died at home in Los Angeles. His health had declined since Thanksgiving. He was 94 years old.



Shaw's recording of "Begin the Beguine" became so popular in 1938 that it brought him to an even footing with the other so-called "King of Swing" -- Benny Goodman. The famously irascible Shaw later referred to the song as an anchor around his neck.



Shaw was an innovator as well as a hit maker. He was one of the first white bandleaders to hire black musicians, and his orchestral compositions won him respect in the classical music world.



But Shaw quit performing in the mid-1950s to compose and arrange music, write books, produce film -- and perfect fly-fishing techniques. Shaw once said his epitaph should read, "He did the best he could with the material he had." Then he changed it -- to "Go Away." [GG: ]

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GG I'm sure he's now giving orders to King David as to how run the Heavenly Chorus. Swing on, Artie! Out

[tybee317]

Damn, I am sorry to hear about Susan Sontag. She has always been one of my lesbian author heroes. Fairly recently, Ms. Sontag wrote a great introduction for "Women" written by her friend Annie Lebovitz.

Dyslexics Untie!

Edited by: tybee317 at: 12/31/04 7:58 pm

[Willowlicious]

Xita beat me to it!



I have very fond memories of watching Johnny Carson with my mom while I was growing up. Sigh.

Edited by: Willowlicious at: 1/23/05 11:18 am

[xita]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Television entertainer Johnny Carson has died of emphysema at age 79, the NBC television network reported on its Web site on Sunday.



Carson hosted NBC's night-time "The Tonight Show" for nearly 30 years. He did his final show on May 22, 1992, seen by an estimated 55 million viewers, and was replaced by Jay Leno.

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"Trust is a risk masquerading as a promise."

[Gatito Grande]

There goes Johnny!



I'm going to have to talk to my mom about him: I know how much she loved him (and they were almost exactly the same age: good thing she only smoked a fraction of the years that he did! )



GG The Carson Double-Take: nobody was as good at it. Out



Also, nobody was as good at joking about sex, in a way that made it witty, not crude. (Not that I'm defending Mister "Let Me Trade Down to a Younger Wife Again"'s sexual politics! )

[Rhiannon9891]

This is truly a sad day...

you will be missed Johnny...

He was one of the greats....





Rhiannon

She is like a cat in the dark

And then she is the darkness