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subject line!

Postby sprhrgrl » Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:33 am

I hope hope we see Rocky again. . . I thought it was interesting that it was just LittleGirlGod in the playground. . . I automatically connected the Nov. thing at the beginning, but then I have a friend whose father died on Halloween, so I've been close to that recently.



I can see Grace as a comedian. That'd be cute. And I looove FlightAttendantGod - she reminded me of Jill Sobule.



This episode seemed pretty disconnected to me, though - like the beginning seemed. . . I don't know, I just found the ending pretty unfulfilling. But the graveyard scene seemed so familiar. . .

Sweetie, I'm a fag. I been there. - Tara (Dead Things shooting script)

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Re: subject line!

Postby tyche » Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:33 pm

Gatito Grande, as far as I can recall, we knew that Adam just lived with his dad, but not why his mother wasn't around.

Some thoughts on last night's ep:

I am so shipping Joan and Adam now - loved that last scene between them.

One of the few things which could be improved about this show is the lack of follow-up on Joan's project of the week in subsequent episodes (other than her continuing friendship with Adam and Grace) - I hope we see Rocky again in the future. I did like the return of Cute Guy God and Little Girl God, though, and I hope we get some more recurring Gods in the future.

I wish Will had stood up a lot more to the policeman who tried to commit suicide. Especially since (as far as I could tell) it was standard policy to suspend officers after that kind of incident.

Looks like there'll be some angst next week. It'll be interesting to see some tension between Joan and God.

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Re: subject line!

Postby Gatito Grande » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:50 pm

"recurring Gods" . . . I love it! :lol



Agree w/ wanting to see more continuity in Joan's "projects." Is she still working at the bookstore?



So Carl Rove lost his beloved wife? Maybe that explains the mess that is the Bush Administration! :rolleyes (I know, I know: the Spawn of Satan spells his name w/ a "K" )



The weak link in the Girardi family is still Papa Will. "You come to me, don't go to a stranger!": that's just the kind of attitude which would definitely send me elsewhere. Like, she can't confide in both you *and* a priest, dipsh*t? You don't own her! Dude's just a blowhard. :miff



Does anybody know Sidney Tamiia Poitier's character's name? I definitely didn't hear it last night (I'm not sure if I have her earlier ep taped). Loved her playing w/ her necklace, when asked a pointed question: busted, girlfriend! :p GG predicts future angst, before we find out if/how Kevin's parts still work. :eyebrow



Does Grace like Luke, or just like harrassing him (and can she tell the difference)? :hmm



Joan is a complete mystery, sexually. Beyond a sort of de facto heterosexuality, I can't really tell what floats her boat (as it were). I'm not saying Adam's out of the running---they're definitely on the path to being closer friends---but "Jane" hasn't even gelled yet, much less settled. (Geez, there's some imagery for ya! What is this---a souffle'? :lol )



GG Boy is this show is fun to speculate upon! :D Out

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This week's episode

Postby tyche » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:03 pm

From Joan of Arcadia.com:

Quote:
The Devil Made Me Do It



Directed by: James Hayman

Written by: Hart Hanson

Original Airdate: Nov-14-2003



Will is struggling in his new position as Chief of Police, and finding that they city’s District Attorney would prefer for him to stay silent on a lot of the city’s pressing matters that are relevant to him. Since he’s not the type to take things lying down, or to be passive with matters that fall in his jurisdiction, Will learns that his contract may not be renewed and he may be out of a job in six months. Joan is instructed by God to help with the school’s student art show, which her mother Helen is overseeing. Joan volunteers to staff the show, and learns that her friend Adam has entered an art project. God then tells Joan to make sure Adam’s piece of art does not get entered into the competition. Mystified by His directions and full of doubt on whether she should sabotage her friend, Joan fulfills God’s request but jeopardizes her friendship with Adam in the process. As he exits a record store, Kevin sets the security alarm off and the clerk lets him leave with no questions asked. When he gets home, he finds that a CD has accidentally slipped into his wheelchair and he goes back to the shop to admit to the error. Kevin’s ego is bruised when the shop owner tells him to take the CD because he feels sorry for him. Kevin’s frustration grows when while shopping with Luke, he feels his authority is undermined by his younger brother.



Recurring Cast: April Grace (as Lt. Det. Toni Williams) Barbara Evans (as Jeanne) Becky Wahlstrom (as Grace Polk) Christopher Marquette (as Adam Rove) Patrick Fabian (as Gavin Price)



Guest Cast: Brian Cousins (as Allan Burns) John Getz (as D.A. Gabe Fellowes)






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Re: This week's episode

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:56 pm

What did everyone think of tonight's ep? It seemed kind of all over the map . . . and could have used a big "To be continued" at the end.



Interesting about Grace's family background.



So was it God? I need to watch the show again. If it was God, God didn't come off to well tonight (IMO).



What are Joan's feelings for Adam? Did she just go mental on the sculpture because Adam was going to leave school, or because he was (effectively) going to leave her?



Still think Kevin needs to get over himself (but then again, maybe that was the point of the story). Take advantage of the pity or don't, but don't push off your anger onto everybody else (I think Joan needs to introduce Kevin to God, so Kevin can let God have it, and get it out of his system).



GG What did Grace say to Joan---something like "can't you pick up on anything?" What do you think she meant by that? Out

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Re: This week's episode

Postby The Rose24 » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:09 pm

I questioned how it ended as well.



What was with Grace tonight? Was she ashamed of her family?

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Re: This week's episode

Postby Cicca » Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:30 am

I have to say that I really prefer that the show deals with the devil as being nonexistent. Please please please! Agreed though that God didn't do so well at this. Why put something like that onto Joan when there wasn't that much she could do? Or I am I also suffering from a lack of imagination?



On a completely different note, does anyone remember the quote about the juggling? "Art is not for juggling!" Something like that. I loved it. I couldn't even say why. :lol

Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive?

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Re: This week's episode

Postby Puff » Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:46 am

I enjoyed last nights show and thought it all tied in nicely with the God and the cop side. Loved the 'too Law and Order?' line last night btw :lol Grace's father was fun and I loved Grace's reaction to Joan going over her house. After all she is trying to be cool and her dad is about as cool as Jim's dad in AP.



I thought the dilemas were interesting, for what reason do we do something? For example Joan did something bad for the right reason and Kevin did something bad for the wrong reason. I don't mind the talk about the devil, if there's God in the show then it makes sense that there will be an evil being as well.



Oh speed walker God cracked me up. God is just so snippy, I love it.



Next week's show looks very interesting and brings in Joan of Arc. Should be good. I wonder if Joan...or should I say Jane? Will ever manage to patch things up with Adam.



So, the day started and I knew my name and had my pants on. So far, so good. Yay.
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Re: This week's episode

Postby yana » Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:39 pm

I liked this episode. I don't think the devil is going to make an appearance. It was obvious that the priest/minister/whatever he is guy was going to bring the devil up. You can't really ignore such a huge part of a mainstream religion. But God hasn't mentioned anything about there being a devil, and I think it'll stay that way (::crosses fingers::).



Grace was amusing, and I actually really liked her dad. He seemed pretty cool. ;o)



I thought the police storyline and the God storyline really went well together, though I'd like to see when good old police chief dad will mention that he's getting fired and what he'll be doing to avoid/fix that.



One thing I think would be really funny is to have Joan mistake someone for God (or maybe this has already happened and I missed it) and begin their usual conversation. Some of the times that she picks up on the fact that it's God it's not exactly obvious to me, but maybe I'm not as good at noticing these things.

"We are one, the gurus say. Aye -- I might agree -- but one what?" -- Edward Abbey

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Re: This week's episode

Postby Gatito Grande » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:44 pm

Y'know, it just hit me today: I've been tracking similarities between JofA and "show that went horribly wrong" in its high-school years, and this week gave us one more. Best female friend of supernaturally-special title character . . . is Jewish! :lol



GG What are the odds, eh? :hmm Out

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Re: This week's episode

Postby Cicca » Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:58 am

heh

This is true!



Plus that whole "Joan and Randy" thing we got in Tabula Rasa.



Ooh... Now I'm going to be looking for the Final Exam versions of Willow and Tara in the show. Fun!

Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive?

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Philly.com article

Postby tyche » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:08 pm

Quote:


From Philly.com

Cast of ’Joan of Arcadia’ feels blessed



CULVER CITY, Calif. - Jim Hayman could use a little divine intervention. The Girardis’ microwave is acting up.

Actually, it’s working just the way microwaves should, humming happily as the tray spins, shining its little light so Michael Girardi can see his Hot Pocket heating up.

For Hayman, a director and executive producer of CBS’s surprise success Joan of Arcadia, the light is good: It reflects off the yellow tiles in the kitchen of the Girardis’ house in Arcadia, U.S.A., and shows viewers that the oven is at work. But the hum is bad: It’s drowning out science geek Luke Girardi’s reflection on the nature of microwaves.

The show is rated 34th of 126 network series this season, and it blew cinema sweetheart Alicia Silverstone’s new NBC series, Miss Match, out of the time slot. Its popularity is a surprise because Joan, which airs at 8 p.m. Fridays, is the fall’s best new TV show. It’s subtle, witty, intelligent and nonviolent - qualities that usually send a program quickly to a cold, dark TV grave.

But Joan has God on its side.

He talks to the lead character, a wonderfully otherwise-normal adolescent in the sea of half-dressed sylphs and Adonises that are TV’s teens. God can be a big help. The top series by far on the youthful WB, packed with witches, vampires and sexpots, is the gentle 7th Heaven, about a minister’s family.

The presence of the Lord has attracted to Joan viewers who are seeking a little spirituality. They haven’t found religion, but don’t mind what they have found: a soulful family drama crafted with meticulous artistry by a creator with a punctilious vision, a crew that sweats the details, and actors whose real relationships border on the familial feelings they portray.

"Joe and Mary are very close to my actual parents," says Amber Tamblyn, 20, referring to the adult leads, Joe Mantegna and Mary Steenburgen, and not to that better-known couple who had dealings with the deity 2,000 years ago.

As Tamblyn, who plays Joan Girardi, speaks near the side of the set on a summer afternoon at Sony Studios, Steenburgen’s husband, Ted Danson, waits for a word with his wife. He and Steenburgen are familiar to the young man who plays Kevin, Joan’s disabled brother. He’s Jason Ritter.

"He has been in my kitchen," says Steenburgen, 50, who won a supporting-actress Oscar for Melvin and Howard (1980). "My two oldest daughters [stepdaughter Kate, 23, and Lily, 22] graduated with him. And we did a play together at the Atlantic Theater in New York. We were actually just trying to remember all our lines. I remember none of mine. He remembers all of mine and his, too."

Ritter, son of recently deceased actor John Ritter, does not want to speak publicly about his father, but says he has found solace and distraction in his work family on the Joan set.

And for Tony-winner Mantegna (Glengarry Glen Ross, 1984), the entire experience has the feel of familial togetherness. Best-known as a member of writer/director David Mamet’s "Chicago Mafia," Mantegna has turned to TV partially to stay close to home and his wife, Arlene, and daughters Mia, 16, who’s autistic, and Gina, 13.

He says, "I didn’t want to be one of those fathers who, when my kids are adults and they’re being asked, ’What was it like to have a father who was a professional actor?’ say, ’...We didn’t see him much, and we’re not that close to him, but we do love Mom.’ "

Mantegna, 56, remembers Tamblyn’s father, Russ, who played Riff 42 years ago in West Side Story, the classic film musical set in the world of youth gangs.

"I got started in this business because of my attraction to West Side Story," Mantegna says. "I grew up like that, on the West Side of Chicago - Cicero, Ill... . I saw that movie 11 times, and now it’s almost like a circle that’s completing itself."

One of Mantegna’s films with Mamet, the dark, R-rated House of Games (1987), is on Amber Tamblyn’s all-time Top 10 list.

"It’s one of my favorite movies ever... . I came up to him and said, ’I really love House of Games,’ and he said, ’You’re too young to have seen that movie.’ "

Tamblyn has been acting for 12 years, eight of them professionally, playing Emily Quartermaine on General Hospital, following in the footsteps of another soapster who proved she could carry her own prime-time show, Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Slouchy, pudgy-faced and uncoordinated, and dressed in the most unremarkable duds, Joan Girardi is a far cry from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but Tamblyn’s acting is scintillating. Just her facial expressions add volumes to the sometimes dense, often funny, screen content. ("I wouldn’t want to do an hour drama that was... never funny," Steenburgen says. "That would bore me." )

The show rests squarely on Tamblyn’s shoulders, but she says she doesn’t worry about that.

"Nobody really applies pressure on me. I just have fun with everybody. As long as you get along with everybody, and it’s a family environment, you don’t have to think in those terms, and I think it’s better not to."

It helps that her material is first-rate. Creator Barbara Hall (Judging Amy) is obsessed with putting Joan on a higher plane than most TV. She gave the show’s writers a reading list on physics and metaphysics (samples: Julian Jaynes’ The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, God at the Speed of Light by T. Lee Baumann, and E = MC2: A Biography of the World’s Most Famous Equation by David Bodanis).

And she has provided 10 commandments for Joan’s God, such as "God cannot directly intervene," "Everyone is allowed to say no to God, including Joan," and "God can never identify one religion as being right."

Though a recent show quoted Kübler-Ross and Kierkegaard, the result is not some stultifying philosophical death march. It’s a drama the whole family - especially the adults - can relate to, one in which the deus ex machina is actually God Himself, plopped with no trace of mystical fanfare into the scenery in a variety of human forms, from a little girl at the playground, to a crush-worthy boy, to the fat guy restocking the vending machine.

"Be not afraid," says the bum who appears behind the Dumpster.

"Be not afraid?" questions Joan, who is usually more aggravated than enthralled by God, and, like any self-respecting adolescent, always ready to talk back.

"Sometimes, I like to use the old-timey stuff."

He tells her to build a boat in the garage, or join the cheerleading squad, or take advanced-placement chemistry, not in the service of The Church, but to reach her potential as a human being and to propel relationships with family and television’s most affecting assortment of high schoolers since My So-Called Life.

There is no God on the set today, however, just an electrician who disables the microwave motor, leaving the lighting intact.

A prop person finds another box of Hot Pockets. Shooting resumes, and quickly stops.

"Is everybody hearing all that crinkling of the cellophane on the Hot Pockets?" Hayman bellows. Well, at least some people are.

So Luke, played by Michael Welch, starts again, with the un-cellophaned box, expounding on how microwaves actually energize food, while his sister Joan races to turn on the kitchen TV because God is anchoring the 6 o’clock news.




Edited by: tyche at: 11/19/03 12:45 pm
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Re: Philly.com article

Postby Cicca » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:29 am

Cool article. :)

Thanks!



I agree that it's the best "teen" drama since My So-Called Life.

Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive?

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Re: Philly.com article

Postby xita » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:09 am

It's funny cause I see more similarities between Joan and My so called Life than the show we won't mention. It's probably wise to remember that the show that shall not be named was influenced by "My So Called Life."



I loved that show cause the kids were so real, their little emotions so bare and open and it just seemed real. So does this show. I may have wanted to not like Adam at first, but gosh how can you not? How can you dislike any of them? They aren't "stereotypes," they're all given opportunities to be jerky, but also they are given opportunities to show vulnerability and that's when I am hooked. I really love this show.

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This week's episode

Postby tyche » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:58 pm

From the SF Chronicle TV section:

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Joan of Arcadia

CBS 8pm

Joan's interest in a certain historical figure - namely, Joan of Arc - is heightened when she discovers modern scholars' take on the 15th-century martyr in the new episode 'St Joan'. They believe that the ancient Joan, who also communicated with the deity, was schizophrenic. The modern Joan also faces opposition from the masses, or at least her school peers, when she won't retake an exam.




Now, this has me wondering why the rest of the school would care that Joan refused to retake the exam. My guess is that the evil principal guy (you know, the one who closely resembles Satan) threatens to impose some punishment on the whole school unless Joan retakes the exam. Geez, that guy is a sadistic bastard.

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Re: This week's episode

Postby Gatito Grande » Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:35 pm

Does anyone else find it strange that just about all these articles refer to God as "He," when God appears as female as often as male? :miff



GG "My So-Called Life" appeared (briefly) in my TV-free grad school days, so I couldn't compare its similarity between JOfA and That Unnamed Show (that went horribly wrong). Did the lead (w/ supernatural secret) hang in a gang of 3 (one male, one female: male has crush, female is Jewish. Both unpopular) also? ;) Out

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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby The Rose24 » Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:23 pm

Another great episode.



Adam is still really angry with Joan. I wonder if they will ever work things out.

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


Edited by: The Rose24  at: 11/21/03 8:53 pm
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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby Gatito Grande » Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:45 pm

How kewl was Grace (and the Revolution) tonight? :clap



However . . . feel bad about how she---and especially Adam---are treating Joan (deja vu SWUTL's Dead Man's Party).* From my perspective, could this treatment be symptomatic of how Joan cannot/should not keep God secret from them anymore? (My guess if Joan tells anyone---other than in her family, and I'm not sure about them---she'll tell Adam . . . but first he has to forgive her already!)



Watching this made me hate all over again how school officials treat students: "they're not adults, we don't have to give them civil rights, like Free Speech." :no *ssholes! (Compare to invasion of privacy by mass locker-opening in SWUTL's Gingerbread)



But about the end: while I think the therapist could have been better (unacceptable how *she* ignored Luke, too!), what was w/ the "everyone stay in your seats" as Kevin broke down? :confused The time he most needed a hug . . . and might finally have been ready to accept one. :paranoid



GG Now, how many weeks till new episodes? ;) Out



*This is my brand spankin-new acronym: SWUTL, for "Show We Used To Love" (that shall not be named). Henceforth, any cast duplications, plot similarities, and other miscellaneous "Hey! Remember ____?" moments shall be referred to w/ this acronym.

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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby xita » Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:13 pm

Ahh, was so frustrated that God is putting Joan in these impossible situations, you think god could fine more opportune times to interrupt. How about helping Joan before she took the sign, grr. Or before she went into the meeting with the principal and they all decided to walk out with the pins. I am slightly bothered that god is choosing when to interfere and not let her go through with her mistakes or how far to go through with them. I hate her losing all her friends. Sides, I liked the whole protest thing, not sure it was wise to back down, but I guess god's purpose this time was to show that teacher that it's not all bunk. Anyway, I hope they speak to her again soon.



That moment with the therapist, where Joan wanted to know if the therapist was god, was cracking me up. I laughed so hard.



The whole Joan of Arc, revolution thing reminded me of that great movie, The Legend of Billy Jean!

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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby Puff » Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:20 pm

Quote:
That moment with the therapist, where Joan wanted to know if the therapist was god, was cracking me up. I laughed so hard.




Damn that was too funny, we were cracking up on the sofa watching that.



I live this show, the writing and acting are both fabulous and it is a real joy to watch. God frustrated me last night telling Joan to ace the test and then no one likes a show off etc Make up your mind what you want Joan to do.



I was sad when Adam finally called Joan by her name and not Jane at the revolution, I hope he can understand finally that she has secrets and he has to accept that. Grace was great to support Joan and hopefully she will see that Joan has her reasons.



Still a great show. Are we getting a new episode yet?



So, the day started and I knew my name and had my pants on. So far, so good. Yay.
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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby Gatito Grande » Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:53 pm

Adam called Joan "Joan"? Dang---I didn't even notice.



Still, maybe that could be a good thing. Adam had a crush on "Jane": his idealization of Joan, not the real person. Maybe they can begin afresh . . . and then maybe Joan will trust him w/ "God." (And w/ this new, more honest relationship, maybe God would approve of Joan letting him know, too). :hmm



GG Who's the *least* dysfunctional of the Girardis? Is it Luke? Or is that only if you're ignoring his problems? :p Out

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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby BBOvenGuy » Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:25 pm

One thing we've seen repeatedly is that Joan assumes God wants her to do something for some great purpose, only to discover that what God really wants her to do is something personal. Connect with a teacher who has lost his spark, find out why Adam does his art, or help find the girl who abandoned her baby. What was it God said one week? "Why do people always try to discern my higher meaning? This is how wars get started. Stop it!"



The thing that is the most real to me is that God's "assignments" for Joan don't always make sense, at least from Joan's perspective. Joan only sees a little piece of the picture. God sees it all. And there's no way God could sit Joan down and explain why he wants her to do things, because her head would explode if she tried to take it all in. There's a lot going on behind the scenes in this show. It has a lot of layers. And that's what makes it so good.



I was a little ticked at Grace, personally. I felt like she wasn't really supporting Joan per se as she was seizing an opportunity to be a grand and glorious rebel. She was mad because Joan ruined her party. I did feel bad for Joan and Adam, although I think that will work out eventually. After all, this isn't WhedonWorld we're in any more. :p

"The stories we tell - that's us explaining how we think the world works. Once we speak it, once we say it aloud, that makes it real for us - and real for everyone else who hears it too. When we tell a story, we invite people to visit our reality. We invite them to move in. Our stories are the reality we live in." - David Gerrold, The Martian Child

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Re: Joan of Arcadia

Postby Gatito Grande » Sat Nov 22, 2003 10:48 pm

I believe Grace's heart was in the right place, initially. The school administrators were attempting to pressure Joan into doing something she didn't feel was right, Grace & Co. were attempting to mount a counter-pressure on the school. What Grace & Co. couldn't see (because Joan has chosen not to share it) was that there were other factors at work in Joan's value-system than just her sense of Right and Wrong, namely God. They (Grace et al.) were standing up just for those values, when Joan herself had gone w/ something in her conscience that, at that moment, was even deeper. Not knowing that, Grace (and Adam!) was left "holding the bag."



I would *expect* Grace to be mystified (as was Adam w/ the destruction of his sculpture). However, I would *hope* that Grace and Adam would have enough personal trust in Joan to understand that there were other factors at work . . . which Joan will reveal, in her (God's?) good time.



Grace has her own version of "Jane": the Ideal Joan who's---surprise!---a lot like Grace in her love of resisting authority. Grace, like Adam, needs to get to know the real(er) Joan underneath the one that kissed off the cheerleaders . . .



GG . . . and there's the life lesson. We all do this: think that we know a whole person (usually the one most like ourselves) rather than go any deeper to where the greater complexities lie. I sure know this 'tude contributed to the demise of *my* marriage! :rolleyes Out



Further thought, re: "Why do people always try to discern my higher meaning? This is how wars get started. Stop it!"



This line actually makes me p*ssed off at God (um, JofA's "God" ;) ). If we appear to be trying to discern God's higher meaning, it's because we're looking for one of our own. That's what humans do being made in the image of god (i.e. we're "sentient," in a secular context). If we get it wrong (the higher meaning), God can't fault us for trying---that's the way we're made.



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This week's episode

Postby tyche » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:00 pm

Yay, there is a new ep this Friday (which is also my birthday.)

Here's the summary, from JoanofArcadia.com:

Quote:
Drive He Said



Original Airdate: Dec-05-2003



Joan is still facing the repercussions of her actions regarding Adam's art show sculpture on their friendship, which is not the same as it was before the incident. At the same time, she is somewhat reluctant to follow God's instruction for her to get her driver's license and begin to drive, especially after Kevin's accident. Will, experiencing his own reluctance towards a car ride, is taken hostage by a recently-released convict he pulls over and forced at gunpoint to help the man escape the scene of the crime. When his family learns of the situation, Kevin feels bad that the last time he saw his father, they had an argument.





Recurring Cast: Aaron Himelstein (as Friedman) April Grace (as Lt. Det. Toni Williams) Becky Wahlstrom (as Grace Polk) Christopher Marquette (as Adam Rove) Sydney Tamia Poitier (as Rebecca Askew)



Guest Cast: Karen Gordon (as Flag Woman)


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Re: This week's episode

Postby Puff » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:18 pm

Woo hoo a new episode this Friday :) And happy birthday Tyche for then, I hope you have a great day!



So, the day started and I knew my name and had my pants on. So far, so good. Yay.
Amber Benson

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Re: This week's episode

Postby The Rose24 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:45 pm

Great show tonight, as usual. When is Adam going to forgive Joan though?



Next week looks intriguing.

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


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Re: This week's episode

Postby Puff » Sat Dec 06, 2003 11:09 am

Yes next weeks episode looks like fun.



I really enjoyed tonights show, I actually get excited about watching it. Ah the wonders of good TV. I hope that Adam will forgive Joan soon but it doesn't look likely after what Grace said about it. Luke on his coffee drinking caffeine high was funny. Oh and God working at the DMV made me chuckle, God seems to get a kick out of embarrasing Joan.



So, the day started and I knew my name and had my pants on. So far, so good. Yay.
Amber Benson

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Next week's episode

Postby tyche » Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:39 pm

From JoanofArcadia.com:

Quote:
The Uncertainty Principle



Directed by: Helen Shaver

Written by: Joy Gregory

Original Airdate: Dec-12-2003



Joan is instructed by God to ask Steve Ramsey, one of the school's biggest troublemakers to the Winter Semi-Formal. Her invitation to Ramsey threatens to further alienate her friend Adam, with whom Ramsey recently picked a fight. Much to the chagrin of her mother Helen, Joan refuses to rescind her invitation to Ramsey. Will and Helen insist that Joan meet her date at the dance, and give her strict guidelines on how she should not leave the dance for any reason. At the semi-formal, havoc ensues, leaving Ramsey and Joan in a dangerous predicament. Will discovers information that could detrimental to the former Chief of Police, and other high ranking officials in Arcadia's city government.



Courtesy of Sony Television





Recurring Cast: Aaron Himelstein (as Friedman) April Grace (as Lt. Det. Toni Williams) Barbara Evans (as Jeanne) Becky Wahlstrom (as Grace Polk) Christopher Marquette (as Adam Rove) Derek Morgan (as Arson Investigator Roy Roebuck) Elaine Hendrix (as Ms. Lischak) Justin Scot (as Officer Eicher) Mageina Tovah (as Glynis Figliola) Patrick Fabian (as Gavin Price)



Guest Cast: Alphonso McAuley (as DJ) Fred Koehler (as Steve Ramsay) Jeffrey Licon (as Goth Kid) John Getz (as D.A. Gabe Fellowes) Kathryn Joosten (as Old Lady [God])








Ooh, we get another recurring God too. I miss Kathryn Joosten on 'The West Wing', so it's nice to see her popping up on JoA.

tyche
 


Re: Next week's episode

Postby Gatito Grande » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:53 am

Directed by Helen Shaver? *That* Helen Shaver?!



GG Whose heart is doin' a pitter-pat over the star of Desert Hearts in a directing gig . . . :heart Out

Gatito Grande
 


Helen Shaver

Postby tyche » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:05 pm

Well, according to the IMDb, Helen Shaver has done some directing recently, so it's entirely possible that she will be directing this week's JoA, though it isn't listed in her credits. I also read that Timothy Busfield of 'thirtysomething' and 'The West Wing' fame will be directing a JoA episode soon.

tyche
 

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