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Postby AntigoneUnbound » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:47 am

Hello, all. As ever, thanks so much for reading and taking the time to write. I love the exchanges and the warmth on this board. Like many of you, I found S-7 (what I saw of it) nauseating; like watching a much-admired role model become a crack whore, and a bad one at that. Thanks again.



Pipsberg: First of all, that is just such a great name! Is it a take-off on Pittsburgh? Or your own personal realm of Pip? Love it...Thank you for the incredibly kind assessment, and you're right: writing is cathartic. What do you suppose that's about? Anyway, welcome to the story! Looks like you're a newer Kitten, too (at least posting-wise), and it's great to have you here!



Russ: Hello, good soul...Thanks for the kind note, by the way. Much appreciated. Yes--isn't it stunning to consider the estrogen-intensive death count? Let's see...We have: Jenny, Kendra, Joyce, Tara, Anya, Lilah, Cordelia, and Fred; versus...um...help me out here...Jonathon? Yeah--nice empowerment, Joss, if you don't count the gender-biased 8-year killing spree.



You're definitely right about Willow's reaction; hence her upcoming book, "It Wasn't the Licking Per Se." (Also loved your band: Buffy and the Gnomes. Slave to the rhythm, kids...) Most of all, you're so astute about how the Scoobies became just perversions of themselves in the last 2 seasons. I can't write those people; I won't.



Thanks, Russ, for everything.



Patches, Patches--I love you in batches!! It was so great to see your name here. And your generous welcome just made me smile most widely. Isn't that a great song? It just kinda popped into my head as I was tinkering with the plot ideas and, well, here it is. God, wouldn't it be great if we really could wipe out S-7? I thought about how to deal with it, and realized I didn't want to deal with it. I didn't want to give any of it credence, or influence in this reality. Ah, the power of the pen (mouse/keyboard). Y'know, I'm more of an existentialist myself as well: How do we derive meaning from a life that we know will end? (Still figuring that one out.) Thanks again, Patches, for all of your support and for how intelligently you read these stories. You rock.



Wimpy0729 Oh yeah--Warren's doing hard time, indeed...Thanks for the kind words!



Karmah: God, what a great name! So Washi lost her mind and Mike et. al. were screaming? Wow...That explains the head rush I had the other night...I'm glad you're checking this out--I hope you like where it goes. And as for the curtain climber's hair...I'm thinking Lady Clairol, "Autumn Sunrise." Thanks for reading!



Sam7777 Yeah, S-7 was ridiculous in the extreme, wasn't it? Glad you like the humor; I love writing it. Thanks for checking this out, Sam.



Barnabasvamp: Hey, BV--so great to see your name here! My ex's loss, indeed. Yeah, anyway...It seemed like a dream was the most efficient (and symbolic) way to wipe out that travesty; glad it worked for you. Thanks, BV--you always say the kindest things.



Imjustme: And another great name...Glad you liked the skank-bot comment; it was definitely fun to write, after watching the original horror. Thanks!



OK, that's all for now. Look for an update either tonight or tomorrow (Saturday). Thanks again, all.

Mary


AntigoneUnbound
 


Part 2

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:42 pm

AS TIME GOES BY

Part 2

Setting:
Spring, 2003
Synopsis: Season 7 (of the TV travesty variety) never happened. This story will disclose what came to pass instead.
Rating: PG for now; I’ll give a heads-up when it gets racier.
Disclaimers: I’m not balding and paunchy, so you know I’m not the original owner.

**Sorry for the update delay. I ended up going to the march on Washington (whoo hoo!) and the weekend proved longer than originally planned.
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Kyra Julia Rosenberg-Maclay was 18 pounds, 23 inches of black-haired, dimple-cheeked power. Her every move was fraught with intent, from her cries to her nursing to her napping. When she was put down in her crib, she often regarded her mothers for a moment or two, as if ascertaining that this was, indeed, the next installment in her life. Satisfied, she jammed her fist in her mouth, kicked a few times, and headed into alpha-waves. If Willow was a babbler and Tara was reflective, Kyra was conductor on the express route. She was also remarkably good humored, and tended to cry only for reasons that would make any reasonable person cranky: hunger, fatigue, and lying in one’s own waste. She showed few signs of existential angst. Willow and Tara knew beyond a faint trace of a dim outline of a shadow of a doubt that Kyra was the most wonderful baby in the history of the species, and this certainty was not in the least mitigated by the fact that they had virtually no idea where she’d come from.

The evening in question, almost nine months ago, had started with no intimation of its natal outcome. The Scoobies had been hot in pursuit of a Ba’jeel demon whose civic failures included a tendency to eat small, yippy dogs. More than one of the group questioned whether this was a good use of their time, until the Ba’jeel branched out to include small, yippy children. It had attacked twice, and though in both cases the parents had managed to pull their offspring to safety, the demon had managed to abscond with a total of one foot and three fingers. Ba’jeel demons were large and surprisingly swift, with long, grasping claws for hands and two sets of teeth, one situated immediately behind the other. All of their various bodily fluids were known to be toxic to humans, and they left a faint trail of slime behind them. They weren’t attractive.

They had tracked the Ba’jeel to an abandoned meat-packing plant about ten miles outside of town, where they had discovered that this particular member of the species was something of an oddity, in that it preferred the company of others. Many others. Many Ba’jeel who seemed equally extroverted.

“It should be alone,” Giles protested in a low voice. “Ba’jeel are solitary creatures.”

“Demons…Demons who need demons,” Dawn crooned softly, while Buffy scanned the scene in front of them. Willow wasn’t at all sure that they could take the entire group, at least with the arsenal that they’d brought with them in anticipation of facing only one.

At that moment, Xander tripped over a small metal crate and sent it clanging across the floor. Anyone outside the building would probably have heard it; the approximately fifteen Ba’jeel in the room with them definitely did. They reared their heads, and began to growl in low, gutteral tones.

“That can’t be good,” Willow assessed. Giles had told them that the Ba’jeel, if threatened, would almost certainly attack.

“Willow, Tara--quick, we need help,” Buffy hissed, but the two witches had already linked hands in preparation of casting a protection spell that would buy them time.

“Give form to that which delivers all who call upon it,” they chanted in unison.

The room was abruptly cast into darkness; and then two dim rays of light, each of which had a thin gold beam threading through it, began swirling and dancing as if to some music only they could hear. Gradually, the rays grew stronger and then a deep pulsing began to echo through the room. The lights suddenly coalesced, then curved into an ellipse; and for one moment they were gazing into the center of the ellipse at a landscape of ethereal blues and purples. Then it winked shut and everything went black again. When Giles switched on a flashlight, a baby was lying on the ground, naked and very displeased. The Ba’jeel were nowhere to be seen.

“What in the name of Britney Spears is that?” Xander muttered.

“A baby,” Anya announced. “And a good trade-off, too. Far more easily killed than those big lobster things.”

“We’re not going to kill it,” Willow snapped, turning to face the ex-vengeance demon. “It’s a baby, for goddess’ sake!”

“But we have no idea where it came from,” Giles protested. “We certainly won’t harm it, but we can’t assume it’s utterly benign.”

Tara, in the meantime, had foregone this discussion and was moving toward the crying infant. Kneeling, she reached out to pick it up.

“Tara, don’t!” Buffy shouted. “It might…” Here she trailed off.

“Drool me to death?” Tara asked, one eye arching in that way that told Willow she was having none of the Apocalyptic Baby talk. She lifted the infant gently into her arms and cradled it against her own warmth. Within seconds, the crying had subsided to a series of irregular gurgles.

“Hello, little one,” Tara murmured softly. “And where did you come from?”

The others edged closer, as if afraid that the baby might suddenly smite them with some unseen power, or perhaps just spit up on them.

“It’s a little girl,” Tara said, glancing at the group. “And she looks like any other little girl.”

“With one major difference being that other little girls come from their mommies’ bellies, and this one emerged from a mystical light convergence,” Xander pointed out.

“Not all little girls come from their mommies’ bellies,” Dawn noted quietly, drawing a gentle smile from Tara.

“Point duly noted,” Giles acceded. He pulled off his thin sweater vest. “We can wrap her in this for the time being.” Tara took it and carefully enfolded the infant within its soft warmth. Giles moved to her side. “Tara, if I might just take a look at the child.” She nodded and transferred the girl to Giles’ arms.

“Make sure you support her head,” she added. It would prove to be an unnecessary instruction, however, since Giles wouldn’t be holding her long enough to support anything for any length of time. As soon as she was resting in his arms, she began to wail again--tiny cries that pierced the darkness, and Willow’s heart.

“Oh for hell’s sake,” Anya sniffed. “Never ask a man to do anything that requires subtlety.”

Willow thought this proclamation wonderfully ironic, as she watched Anya reach out to take the baby. The cries only grew louder, though, as Anya jiggled the infant and began to sing a lullaby.

“Hush little baby, stop your cries/Or monsters will come and take your eyes.
And if that doesn’t dry your tears/They’ll come back and take your--”

“Oh my god,,” Buffy spluttered. “Here, let me try.”

And so began a sort of unofficial contest to see who could get the baby to stop crying. Buffy tried to pull the sword from the stone of weeping, but to no avail. Xander and Dawn were likewise unsuccessful. Only when Willow stepped up and cradled the baby next to her did the wailing stop.

“Whoa…OK, that’s funky,” Xander said, eyes widening.

“We need to test the hypothesis. Here, Tara--you take her again.” The transfer was uneventful. When Giles had taken the baby into his arms, however, the wailing began again. He immediately handed her back to Tara; contented gurgling ensued. Tara passed her to Buffy, and the room was filled with heart-rending cries. Buffy handed her off to Willow, and all was quiet.

“OK, she’s not a football,” Tara announced, as Willow turned to pass the infant to Xander. “She’s going to get even more disoriented if we keep this up. All we know for sure is that she seems OK when either Willow or I have her. So we’ll be the ones to hold her, at least for now.” Willow took note of Tara’s uncharacteristic group decision behavior.

“Do you--do you think she belongs to somebody?” Dawn asked tentatively. Willow could tell that the former Key was going to be heavily invested in how this all progressed.

“I don’t know, Sweetie,” Tara answered simply. “She seems healthy enough, but we don’t know anything about her.”

“Willow, Tara--have you two ever had a spell go quite that…wonky?” Buffy’s voice was hesitant, and Willow knew why. It had been less than a year and a half since her addiction to magic, and everyone still had a hard time talking about it...

“Well, sure. There was that time when Willow nearly got Dawn killed, and before that, when she cast that memory spell on all of us, the one that made Tara move out. Oh, and don’t forget about that time you and Spike got engaged, when D’Offryn tried to make her a vengeance demon.”

Everyone except Anya, that is, who had a remarkably easy time talking about it.

“Thanks for the history lesson, Anya. Hey--talked to Olaf the Troll lately?”

“Willow’s energy was fine during our spell,” Tara broke in, looking evenly at Buffy. “It never felt wonky; not during any part of it.”

“Right,” Willow concurred, focusing on the matter at hand. “And, at the risk of missing the point, we were protected. Look--no Ba’jeel.”

“Yes--you were casting a protection spell,” Giles nodded, looking thoughtfully from one witch to the other. “How did you decide on that particular one?”

Willow and Tara glanced at each other. “It’s sorta hard to explain,” Willow said after a moment. “It’s not something we talk about before-hand.”

“Whaddya mean?” Xander asked, brow furrowed in confusion. “If you don’t talk about it, how do you know what to say?”

“That’s the part that’s hard to explain,” Tara replied, swaying softly to lull the baby. “We definitely talk about certain spells for certain situations, but if we’re in some really intense moment and we need to cast together, in one voice, we just sorta…know.”

“We first discovered it when we were trying to get away from the Gentlemen, and we couldn’t talk at all.” Willow looked at her beloved, remembering that first moment of contact. Tara’s soft grin told her that she was watching the same internal movie. “And then when we were fighting Glory at the construction site, and we needed to help Buffy get through the throng of minions, we did it again. That was when we realized how deep it went.”

Giles looked at them with heightened appreciation. “Remarkable,” he said simply.

“So here, tonight--you guys just joined hands and…somehow you knew what spell to cast?” Dawn seemed dangerously close to Crushville again as she gazed at Tara.

“We never have that kind of synchronicity,” Anya hissed at Xander, in a sotto voce that was considerably more voce than sotto. “You always…cast first.”

“It only works under special conditions,” Willow jumped in, eager to miss drive past that looming exit. “Like, when there’s no time for consultation and we’re about to get devoured, eviscerated, or otherwise inconvenienced.”

“Have you ever cast this particular spell before?” Giles inquired.

“No,” Tara promptly replied. “This was the first.”

“And what were the words again?” the Watcher continued.

Tara looked at Willow, who could tell that her beloved felt uncomfortable saying the words again. Wrapping an arm protectively around Tara and the infant, Willow offered, “I’d rather not say it verbatim, just to be safe. Basically, we were asking for an energy field that would keep the Ba’jeel contained while we either formulated a different plan or decided to…maybe…run away,” she finished lamely.

“Were you calling on a particular god or spirit?” Buffy asked.

“It’s a trio of spirits, actually,” Tara spoke up. “The Anadeis. They function as a collective.”

“Like the Borg,” Xander interjected, happy to be able to contribute something.

“Right,” Willow replied slowly. “Except they don’t seek to conquer and subjugate everyone they encounter. And they don’t travel in a cube.”

“The Anadeis offer rescue and surcease to any woman who calls upon them,” Tara continued.

“Does it only protect women?” Giles asked hesitantly, as if wondering whether he and Xander had been extra luggage that could be easily jettisoned.

“No,” Tara quickly replied. “The Anadeis will provide safety to anyone, but women have to be the ones to ask.”

“So you call on a trio of female spirits to protect us all; an energy field of sorts does emerge, from whence arrives an infant,” Giles summarized.

“That’s pretty much it,” Willow concurred. “And--again, not to be overstating the case here--but we were protected.”

“Where did the Ba’jeel go?” Buffy asked, looking around as if one of them might emerge from behind a 25-gallon drum. “I mean, not looking the free equine in the oral region or anything, but was the field supposed to…remove them?”

“I didn’t think so,” Willow replied slowly, glancing at Tara for confirmation. Her partner shook her head.

“I thought it would just repel them, buy us time. But maybe it repelled them to, say, Omaha.”

“And in studying this spell, you never found reference to an infant?” Giles asked, glancing at the baby which was now snuggling even deeper into Tara’s accommodating arms.

“Nary a one,” Willow said, shrugging.

“Maybe the baby is the protection,” Xander shrugged.

“Yeah, that’s probably it,” Anya replied, tossing her head. “Look--her little hands just cry out for a cross-bow.”

“You know what I mean,” Xander retorted. “Maybe the munchkin houses the energy field, or something like that.”

Willow was frankly surprised by the plausibility of the hypothesis, considering its source.

“OK, this seems like something we can research later on,” Buffy cut in. “Right now, though, there’s a little inter-dimensional baby we need to think about. Like, for example, what are we gonna do with her?”

Tara looked at Buffy and spoke with greater certainty than Willow had ever heard.

“We’re going to take her home with us.”

***************

To Be Continued
AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Part 2

Postby jixer » Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:06 am

Hello Kittens-



The way Tara reacts to the baby in your description of Kyra's arrival reminds me partly of Kipling's Mother Wolf from The Jungle Book among other foundlings fondly taken in going all the way back to Moses in the rushes. Leave it to you to tap an ancient storyline with outcomes that are sometimes good and sometimes bad for the adoptive mothers. We just have to wait and see...



Did I mention how bad I am at waiting?

Are we there yet? :bounce





Jixer

Edited by: jixer at: 4/29/04 3:20 pm
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Re: Part 2

Postby DarkWiccan » Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:37 am

Hmmm.... my puzzler is a puzzling...



I am (of course) thoroughly enjoying this story so far... and, as a matter of fact, I expect I shall continue to :D



You have such an easygoing style, Mary, it's relaxing to read, yet still enticing and wholly satisfying as a meal for the ole cerebrum.



Odd that those Ba'jeel thingy-mah-bobbers were suddenly traveling in a pack... wonder why that is... and also wonder why they suddenly changed their appetites to include babies... how very Jonathan Swift of them....



Hmm... methinks that Kyra is the Anadeis given form by those who called upon it...



Or I could be entirely wrong.



Anxiously awaiting your pen's next glorious outpouring.



Cheers

DW :pride

"Promise me you'll never be linear." "On my trout."

Edited by: DarkWiccan at: 4/29/04 9:47 pm
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Re: Part 2

Postby Patches » Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:11 am

Mary,



Was going to question your concept of time. However, the March on Washington?? Cool! as well with the extenda-weekend and the KB down, you still come through with an update. And what an interesting and raucously funny update it was. Anya's lulaby was one of the most disturbing rhymes I've heard in my life - Did I mention at all how *good* it is to have you writing for us again?? I've so missed your sharp dialogue. I know this is a w/t and scoobies story, but I *live* for Anya's character and the one liners that go along with her.



No existential angst??? Must be a truely mystical creature ... and what's this with the 'next' installment of Kyra Julia Rosenberg-Maclay's life ... humm I say, and humm again. Initials KJRM, like a station's call letters. To shamelessly missquote Raiders of the Lost Arc, is Kyra "a transmitter; a radio for talking to the gods."



Most delighted you're gracing us with another gem. Can't wait to see where you take this (so are you sitting there saying to yourself, 'I'll let you know as soon as I figure it out' :-p) As always, it's a pleasure to see your name on this board. And um, if you do happen to figure that whole existentialist paradox out, do share. Of course, the very nature of the paradox dictates that it can't be explained and ... !! (God, I have to STOP reading Kafka.)



Well, if you're keeping to your usual posting schedule of Tuesday update, I have yet another reason to look forward to the day (which means, btw, that since you promised an update on Fri or Sat, and you posted this Wednesday - you're behind. Enough of this work and life buisnesss, shouldn't you be writing!). Tuesdays, a writing class to learn how it's done, then home to see how it works in practice!! Could chocolate (non-sugar, non-fat, of course) ever be this good.



Cheers!!

Patches

You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

Edited by: Patches at: 4/29/04 7:28 am
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Re: Part 2

Postby mollyig » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:47 am

Interesting stuff. I'm looking forward to reading more about Kyra's origins. Loved that Tara's maternal instinct kicked in and helped her to be decisive about what was best for the baby, and that Willow just trusted that.



Dawn's "Demons . . .Demons who need demons" was funny.


"Love is just like breathing when it's true" Indigo Girls

mollyig
 


Re: Part 2

Postby onyxsundrops » Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:27 am

Glad to see that Anya's still as colorful as ever. Wonderful update. I'm really interested to know about Kyra's existence as well, though I'm sure it wouldn't matter if W/T love her just the same. Thanks for the update.



Yvonne:peace

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Re: Part 2

Postby daiailun » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:37 am

Seeing your name by a new fic sent me twirling around in my office chair with squeals of delight. I think I even rubbed my hands together in delicious anticipation. It’s so wonderful to have another instalment from you, and of course, you aren’t disappointing. You’re great at giving us the requisite canon; giving us background without belabouring it, but keeping true to your wonderful sardonic wit. I loved your trashing of season 7 because it was just so true! But I am interested that you have kept Willow’s addiction and am very interested to see if and how you’ll tackle that portion of the Scoobies’ lives. The scene with all of them passing the baby around to quieten her down, is comic genius. Anya’s song, sung in what I imagine to Anya passed for incredible tenderness, was a hoot. I think it’s really hard to write Anya well, and you nailed her here. And Buffy’s “spluttering” was so palpable. So, wow, what’s Kyra all about? That seems to be the one question on everyone’s mind. Except Tara. Bless her. Sigh. She’s just so wonderful at being in the moment, the now. Nothing matters but getting that little one home safely to a warm bed, filling her little tummy with nutritious goodness, and---knowing Tara---singing her to sleep.



So glad you’re back, Mary. Really looking forward to this creation.



Edited by: daiailun at: 4/29/04 10:45 pm
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Re: Part 2

Postby Diebrock » Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:47 pm

I'm so glad you're writing again. I love Mama Tara. And the visual of everyone handing the baby around was hilarious. :lol



But I have one question. Shouldn't that kid's name be Amanda as Tara decided years and stories ago, and not Kyra? Did Tara change her mind? Or don't they regard Kyra as really their child? Or did you decide that Amanda worked much better in theory than actually applied to a living and breathing fictional character? Inquiring minds want to know.

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I've kissed her best friend. I've reached into her best friend's pocket and fished around for keys. And I gave her best friend my number. I must be doing something totally, totally wrong... - TBSOL by Dreams

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Re: Part 2

Postby Puff » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:21 pm

Okay so no-one else mentioned it but what a bomb to drop on us! I am of course talking about how you casually dropped in this...

Quote:
and this certainty was not in the least mitigated by the fact that they had virtually no idea where she’d come from.


Immediatly I crossed my fingers and toes (making it hard to type and also walk btw) in the hope that where baby Kyra came from is a nice place, but that she won't be going back there anytime soon. If ever. I loved the immediate devotion and instinct that Tara and Willow showed towards the baby, from the first paragraph you can see that Kyra is a mix of both Willow and Tara. The image of the scooby gang passing her around like a football made me chuckle and I reaqlly liked the little mention of Tara swaying slightly to calm the baby...I don't know why, but it was very sweet and very Tara. I'm wondering what they have learned about Kyra's existence in the past 9 months.



As always Mary I look forward to reading more :) Thank you for the update. Edited to add - Married life is very good, much better this week because last week was very hard. It is nice to be back together again. Sandra's Dad died last week and she spent a while in Boston for the funeral. How are you?



So, the day started and I knew my name and had my pants on. So far, so good. Yay.
Amber Benson

Edited by: Puff  at: 4/29/04 7:31 pm
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Re: Part 2

Postby The Rose24 » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:52 pm

You have me hooked again.



I can't wait to find out about Kyra's origin. In the meantime, I know W/T will take good care of her. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope Kyra isn't connected to evil.

Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.


Tara: Willow, I got so lost.

Willow: I found you. I will always find you.


Edited by: The Rose24  at: 4/30/04 7:38 pm
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Re: Part 2

Postby russ » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:15 pm

It seems that everything about little Kyra is a mystery. Why were the unattractive Ba'jeel demons hanging out in a group, instead of their usual solitariness? Where did they go after the spell was cast? Where did Kyra come from? Why were Willow and Tara so instantly bonded to her, when everyone else was fearful, or at least cautious? Why does she quiet only for them?



Some thoughts: Willow stated that they were asking for an energy field to contain the demons. But that's not at all what they said. The chant was: "Give form to that which delivers all who call upon it." It's explained that they didn't know what they were going to say before saying it; I wonder if they are not really aware of what they said.



The Anadeis Trio (chamber musicians, no doubt) protect any woman who calls upon them; it seems that in Kyra they have been "given form." And she was pretty clearly "given" to those who called: Willow & Tara. (I like Jixer's image of Tara as Raksha, by the way.) You can see why Dawn is "heavily invested" in this; there is a lot of similarity to her own situation.



One thing I find rather disturbing: the magic addiction of S6 seems to be part of this history as well. Given the situation at the end of GS&A, I wouldn't have thought this would be the case.



Ah, we've a long way to go yet; the journey's just begun. I'm looking forward to going wherever this story takes us.



Russ

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Re: Part 2

Postby Grimaldi » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:02 am

cool update :)



i liked the little bits of humor. really curious about Kyra's origin, looking forward to reading more

I'm not stealing, I'm just taking things without paying for them. In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?
Welcome friends, how may I pervert you?

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Re: Part 2

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:13 pm

Hello, all. OK, so I've just spent about 45 minutes typing out individual feedback, going back and forth, and I just lost it in switching from page 2 to page 3...AGGHHHH!!! Can you possibly forgive me if my individual replies are horribly brief? I'm leaving early tomorrow and still need to pack. I'm sorry, and truly don't mean to short-change your wonderful observations and kind words.



Lots of questions about Kyra, yes? From whence she springs; her personal nature; her connection to the Anadeis. Also lots of questions re: the mention of Willow's addiction. I've been grappling with the issue of what (if any) aspects of S-6 canon to leave intact, what to tweak, and what to jettison. I hope you like the decisions I make.



And Anya--God, I love the girl. Her lullaby may have been one of my favorite BtVS scenes to write.



Above all, thank you so much for taking the time to read this and give such thoughtful feedback.



OK--here go the truncated replies:



Jixer: To quote Hannibel Lecter: "Patience, Clarice..."



DarkWiccan: An easy-going style? That's one of the nicest things you could say. The same could definitely be said of your own words, DW!



Patches: Ah, your feedback is so wonderful--I hate to give it short-shrift. The March was wonderful, BTW. I share your love of Anya, too. I'm sure Kyra will face her existential angst; right now, I'm just lettin' her sleep and poop. we all need breaks like that, you know? And good call on the "where it goes from here" sentence--you know me well, don't you? Thanks, Patches, and I promise: more next time.



Mollyig: Glad you're enjoying!



onyxsundrops: Didn't I read in "Wild Horses" that you're also an Ohio girl? Let's face it: we rock. Thanks for reading this.



daiailun: Can I ask the source and proper pronunciation of your sig? I find it intriguing. Hey--I'm all about squealing! (May be more info than you wanted...)I really appreciate your kind words; they brought a huge smile to my face.



Diebrock: Holy nomenclature, Diebrock! You know my stories better than I do! Wish I had a sophisticated reason for the switch, but basically--I forgot! I wanted something that felt both old and new to me, and "Kyra" fit the bill. Color me impressed at your memory, and grateful for your words.



Puff: Hey--I'm so sorry to hear about Sandra's dad. How's she doing? How are you doing? I'm sending you both good energy, and hopes that the coming weeks bring a return to something approximating normality.



I'm a sucker for the "Wait--what was that?" sentence or phrase at the end of a more or less typical expositional paragraph. Glad it caught your attention! Thanks, Puff.



Rose: Hey Rose! Glad (and grateful) that you're hooked! Thanks for checking this out, and taking the time to write.



Russ: A music combo, indeed...Loved your speculations on Kyra's origins and connection to the Anadeis. I'll be curious to hear what you think of what's to come. Yeah, the addiction s/l was a toss-up, but there are definite differences in this rendition. Let me know what you think, OK? Thanks, Russ, as ever. Always so good to see your name.



Grimaldi: Hey, Grimaldi--nice to see you! All questions will be answered...as soon as I figure them out. Thanks for reading!



OK--update on Tuesday, and I promise I won't leave you hanging. Thanks again, everyone, and have a great weekend.



Mary

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Re: Part 2

Postby littlecrazy80 » Sat May 01, 2004 2:27 pm

Great story! I´m really curious about the baby´s origin.



*lil´c*

"Okay, we’re here, we’re queer, let’s kick this shit into gear," Five by Five (Taras Shadow)



SweetAmber

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Re: Feedback, Mes Amis

Postby pipsberg » Sat May 01, 2004 7:13 pm

Quote:
Pipsberg: First of all, that is just such a great name! Is it a take-off on Pittsburgh? Or your own personal realm of Pip? Love it...Thank you for the incredibly kind assessment, and you're right: writing is cathartic. What do you suppose that's about? Anyway, welcome to the story! Looks like you're a newer Kitten, too (at least posting-wise), and it's great to have you here!




Mary,



Thanks for the name compliment! Actually, the source is a bit more abstract than the state's name. My online nick has been Piper since the X-Files aired. It's Gillian Anderson's daughters name, but also part of an episode name (Piper Maru). Of course, the nick is always taken for various reasons so I use variations: pipsberg, pipslien, pip, pipnhot, etc.. =))



I'm not new to the boards, but I am new to commenting. Thanks for the encouragement!!



Oh, and I just read Part 2!!



Quote:
She was also remarkably good humored, and tended to cry only for reasons that would make any reasonable person cranky: hunger, fatigue, and lying in one’s own waste. She showed few signs of existential angst. Willow and Tara knew beyond a faint trace of a dim outline of a shadow of a doubt that Kyra was the most wonderful baby in the history of the species, and this certainty was not in the least mitigated by the fact that they had virtually no idea where she’d come from.




I cry for the EXACT same reasons! But no-one picks me up and gives me attention. I love the existential angst comment...just trying to imagine a baby posessing any makes me giggle. Great part!! I can't wait for more.

-pipsberg



"We live our lives, do whatever we do, and then we sleep - it's as simple and ordinary as that."

Michael Cunningham, The Hours

Edited by: pipsberg at: 5/1/04 6:22 pm
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*does a happy dance*

Postby Modjadji » Sun May 02, 2004 8:59 am

Wahooo! Mary's writing again!



Sorry I made it to this thread so late, but at least it gives me a chance to join the chorus in thanking every known deity - and a few I made up on my tea break yesterday - that you're back. Your fics are always a pleasure to read, and this one is already delivering the delicious combo of laughs, sweet moments and mind-bending intrigue that I always associate with seeing your moniker on Pens.



Firstly, the opening dream sequence/discussion was hilarious. Glad I'm not the only one who's brushing Arnie's election under the same mental carpet as Season Severed. Same surreal, "no way" sort of feeling.



Quote:
“Some woman was trying to lick you?”




Absolutely hilarious. Reminded us once again just how nuts Joss and co. really were by the end. Of course, if it was Tara doing the licking that would have been a whole other story...



But I digress. Back to the funny, and there was lots of it.



Quote:
“We never have that kind of synchronicity,” Anya hissed at Xander, in a sotto voce that was considerably more voce than sotto. “You always…cast first.”




Hee. What can I say, I always had a soft spot for Anya. She can be brilliantly funny and as always, you capture her perfectly. In fact, you capture pretty much everything about the Scoobies perfectly, cheerfully skipping over the snafu's of the last season or two and reminding us all why we love them so much.



Of course, I'm very interested in the appearance of Kyra, but I'll withhold comment for the moment because I'm pretty sure I'll never be able to guess what your devious mind has in store for us this time. Loved reading everyone else's feedback and guesses, though. Your writing seems to create the most interesting feedback discussions, well worth the read. It also seems to make me leave ridiculously long feedback. If you got this far, huzzah! Can't wait for the next update!



cheers,

mo.

No matter how short life may seem, it's still the longest thing you'll ever do.

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Re: Part 2

Postby JustSkipIt » Mon May 03, 2004 6:28 am

Hello Mary,

First off, sorry for the delay in responding; we spent the weekend at the in-laws where Internet is limited and posting not possible.



Nonetheless...



I liked this update very much. Of course from part 1, I had figured as much regarding the source of the cry in the night. And not surprised that T&W summoned up a baby. This interpretation of the spell seems somewhat obvious to me. I'd imagine that Kyra is a protector of some sort (or will be when she moves past the fist chewing stage).



I'm glad that T&W are so in love with their baby (who could resist?) but also wonder about the difficulties of having a baby while still in college and without preparation. There are a lot of things you need and all cost money but obviously they are doing just fine. I'm sure they have the support of all the scoobies.



I liked the way you basically flashback this entire part to provide the background. Well done and looking forward to the next update.



Debra

Oppose the Federal Marriage Amendment

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FYI

Postby DarkWiccan » Mon May 03, 2004 8:52 am

Mary, dear... just thought that I would let you know... I, being so gleefully happy about your return to pens, hopped over to the archives to re-read "On Second Thought" and discovered that parts four and five are missing their endings!! (Including the bit where Giles mentions that Xander is stirring his loins... the omition of which must be breaking a law in some state... unless you're the FCC... you aren't the FCC, are ya?)



Sooooo... just thought you would like to know so that you can fix it if you feel like :D



Cheers

DW :pride





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Final Feedback

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Tue May 04, 2004 11:22 pm

Hello, Kittens. Some final replies, and then I'm posting part 3. Thanks again, and hope you enjoy!



Li'l C: Glad to see you here! Kyra's origins will be revealed, I promise.



Pipsberg: Well, anyone w/ a Jones for Gillian Anderson is more than fine by me...She's just a diminutive dynamo of delectability.



You know, I just sorta pictured this baby--or any baby--struggling with the epic questions of life, and it tickled me no end. Seems we have similar funny bones...



Glad that you're joining the posting brigage. Your comments are perceptive ones--not to mention kind. Merci beaucoup, Mme. Berg du Pip.



Modjadji: OK, first of all: can I ask how you pronounce your sig? 'Cause I like to do so; makes me "see" the person more clearly. And yes, I'm a bit strange...



Your feedback, though--wonderfully kind, and not the least bit strange. Glad I could be a part of your tea break. What incredibly generous comments--thank you!



You know, I also have a soft spot for Anya, and she's such a delight to write. She's a wonderful combination, really, because she's so sharply drawn and yet there's still trace elements of subtlety to her; she's not a caricature.



And oh--when I (per your astute observation) pictured Miss Tara doing the licking...Yes, indeedy...That was just...gulp...fine.



Thanks again, Modjadji!



Debra: A weekend at the in-laws, eh? How'd that go? One good thing about the break-up is that I absolutely detested her mother, and it was very mutual. (Homophobia. So attractive.) You know, I'm sure there are BL's (Baby Logistics) I'll miss. I hope they won't be too glaring. I'll definitely be focusing more on the mystical elements of this story, but hopefully there will be enough of the logistical to make the story plausible. Thanks for the kind words, Debra, and give my best to Rachel et enfant.



Dark Wiccan: Thanks for the heads-up, DW. Someone had mentioned it in the thread itself, and I need to talk to one of the administrators and see how to fix it. When I tried to go into the thread to edit, it basically cut me off after a certain point. In any case, I appreciate you taking the time to look over an old story. It was my first, and it definitely has a special place in my heart.



OK--on to Part 3.

Mary


AntigoneUnbound
 


Part 3

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Tue May 04, 2004 11:35 pm

AS TIME GOES BY

Part 3

Synopsis:
Set in spring of 2003, this story abandons much of Season 6. The nerds were vanquished and our girls are together. Oh--and there seems to be a baby.
Disclaimer: Joss, ME, ownership, random wanking…

Note 1: In this section, I play a little with one of the fundamental underpinnings of a certain faith. Please trust me that I mean no disrespect whatsoever. If anyone feels that I have been disrespectful, regardless of my stated intention, please let me know.

Note 2: Trust me: all questions will be answered. For now, I’m fleshing out the past few months, but in so doing, I’ll explain what happened the year before as well.

Note 3: To quote that masterpiece of romanticized antebellum South: “I don’t know nothing ’bout birthin’ no babies.” I’m trying to get it right, but I may miss a few details.

*****

“Tara, I don’t wish to sound harsh, but you can’t take that child home with you.” As she watched her mate turn to face Giles and gaze at him without speaking, Willow thought that the Watcher had never uttered a more doomed sentence. Only the tightening of her jaw told Willow that her girlfriend was anything besides calm and serene.

Finally, Tara replied, “Actually, Giles, we can.”

This was the group’s first indication that Tara would not be taking many orders where this child was concerned.

It quickly became clear that she and Tara were--there was no other word for it--mothers to this child. The infant eventually let herself be held by other members of the group, but only for brief periods of time. At night, she slept only in the crib that Buffy had dragged down from the attic and set up in Willow and Tara’s room that first night.

“Do you want us to find our own place?” Willow asked Buffy, as they tugged the fitted sheet over the mattress. “We’ve been talking about it for awhile anyway; you know, wondering if we were overstaying our welcome by a year or two…”

But Buffy had her own resolve face, and she used it now. “Will, we still don’t know jack about this baby, aside from the fact that ‘Jack’ probably wouldn’t be a good name. To be honest, I’d feel better if we were all under one roof.”

Willow had heaved an internal sigh of relief. Frankly, she wasn’t sure how they could have managed to find a new home in the midst of taking care of a mystical infant. Buffy had raised a good point, however, and not just about the safety to be found in numbers.

“We need to call her something,” she told Tara on the second night. “We can’t just keep calling her…‘her.’”

“You’re right,” Tara agreed, gazing down at the tiny bundle in her arms. “But what?”

“Well…You always said you wanted to name a girl ‘Amanda,’” Willow said slowly.

Tara turned to look at her, and her expression was difficult to read. “I know, Sweetie…But this feels different. Like, really different.”

“You’re afraid she won’t…she won’t stay, aren’t you?”

“I don’t know what I feel, Willow. All I know is that when I picture ‘Amanda,’ it’s another child.”

“I get that,” Willow replied. “So--what name does make you picture this child?”

But Tara just shook her head slowly. “I don’t know…”

Willow broached the subject with the group the next day. Giles, not surprisingly, had cautioned against naming the infant at all.

“You don’t know anything about this child. You don’t know where she came from, or what her purpose is. You don’t know…” And here he trailed off.

“We don’t know how long she’ll be here,” Tara finished for him. He nodded, almost apologetically.

“We do know, though, that she’s been delivered to this dimension and for whatever reason is deeply attached to Tara and Willow,” Buffy chimed in. “And from what we can tell, she’s a normal human baby, at least physically. Now, I seem to remember from freshman psychology…Well, I remember a number of things, not the least of which was that Maggie Walsh had some serious control issues. But I also remember that all of the 'higher' social creatures need names, or some form of manifest identity. Otherwise, their sense of self takes a hit. And I for one do not want to be responsible for a baby’s impaired self-image. Massive architectural damage in the name of fighting evil, sure…But not compromised ego development.”

Willow grinned, recognizing Buffy’s comments for the support they were. She also felt a twinge of sadness, though; freshman psychology reminded her of Riley…Riley and his departure for the Special Ops duty in some country that was low on amenities and high on demon-provoked insurrection. After awhile, he had acknowledged what Buffy had suspected for a few months: he was bisexual, and quite interested in Graham.

“I told him to go figure it out,” she later told Willow. “But I don’t think he’ll be back anytime soon. It’s probably for the best, though,” she added, as Willow began to offer words of comfort. “That wholesome thing was starting to wear me down.”

Turning her attention back to the issue of baby names, Willow spoke up decisively. “We’re going to name her, and that’s that. However long she’s with us…” And here she turned to Tara. “…we’re going to treat her like the baby she is. We’re going to protect her, and feed her, and watch over her.”

And love her. Willow felt, rather than heard, the words emanate from Tara. She took her beloved’s hand, and smiled her agreement.

The conversation that followed was much as one might anticipate, based on the characters involved. Buffy, for all that she had traveled through the realms of darkness and vanquished creatures of unspeakable evil, tended toward names of almost hideous cuteness.

“You would really name a child ‘Barbie,’” Willow marveled. “Truly, you are a troubled woman.”

“Well, her full name would be ‘Barbara,’” the Slayer protested. “‘Barbie’ would just be her nickname.”

“I think it’s sweet name,” Tara offered, as, Buffy turned to her with a huge smile, “for a plastic doll with boobs three times the size of her feet.” Looking back at Willow, she added, “We will not be throwing a Barbie on the shrimp,” and seemed inordinately proud of the bad pun.

Giles suggested ‘Hermione,’ which elicited vast oceans of American dismissal. “Why wait for grade school?” Dawn asked. “Why not just laugh at her and knock her to the ground right now?”

Anya’s ideas were thinly-veiled, to put it mildly. “‘Anna’ is a wonderful name,” she said decisively. “Very time-honored. There’s also ‘Annie,’ ‘Enya,’ and just plain ‘Ann.’ They’re all classics, really.”

Xander, surprisingly, hadn’t offered up any specific names. Instead, he was peering at the baby intently. Finally, he looked at Willow and then Tara.

“What does she look like?” he asked simply. At the questioning glances, he explained, “Don’t make her fit the name; make the name fit her.”

Willow stared at him until he began to squirm. “What--do I have something in my nose?” He gave a self-conscious swipe at both nostrils.

“No; it’s just that this is twice in three days that you’ve had a really good suggestion, and I’m…” She stopped, realizing how it would sound.

“Shocked? Awed? Yeah--me too,” he shrugged.

As Tara gazed at the sleeping infant, she commented, “Well, she has a head of dark hair; that’s one thing.”

“How about ‘Raven’?” Giles suggested.

“A little too E. A. Poe for me,” Willow mused. “We have enough midnights dreary as it is.”

“Hey.” Dawn’s voice was excited. “I know ‘Kieran’ means small dark one in Celtic. I mean, you hear it more for boys than girls, but still…” Turning to Willow, she asked, “Can I borrow your laptop for a minute?” With the nodded permission, she began a search for baby names. After a moment, she said, “Well, there’s ‘Kiera,’ with the same meaning. And then…” She paused, scrolling down. “There’s also the same name, spelled ‘K-y-r-a,’ and that means ‘sun.’” She looked at Willow, who was looking at her mate, who was looking at the baby.

Tara nodded slowly at this. “Dark one, and sun…She feels like both to me.” She glanced up at Willow. “I’m thinking ‘Kyra.’ What about you?”

Willow knelt to touch the infant’s silky black hair. “I think we got ourselves a name, Sweetie.” Gazing into Tara’s eyes, she felt a surge of love and protectiveness that left her almost dizzy.

And we got ourselves a baby, she thought to herself. But Tara’s answering kiss on her cheek told her that her beloved had heard her.

*****

Two weeks after Kyra’s appearance, Willow looked at Tara and said simply, “There are things I need to do; things only I can do.” And Tara nodded her agreement, and her approval. Willow turned away from her and squared her shoulders.

“For I shall call upon my power, and with it, give form to nothingness,” she intoned. “I shall create life where once there was none.” So saying, she cracked the knuckles on both hands and settled down to her computer.

The first thing she did was issue a birth certificate. Tara was the biological mother, having given birth to Kyra at home with Anya Jenkins as midwife. Her alleged role pleased the former vengeance demon a great deal.

“You were a real trooper,” she commended Tara, punching her lightly on the arm.

The decision to give the child Tara’s mother’s name had been a simple one. “My mother was one of the two greatest gifts in my life up to this point,” Tara had said quietly. “And for whatever reason--for however long--Kyra feels like the third.” Willow, who had actually been thinking the same thing, kissed Tara by way of response.

Dawn came in just as Willow was about to send the document to print. “Can I take a look?” she asked, peering over Willow’s shoulder without waiting for permission. After a moment, she wheeled to face Tara.

“Oh my God,” she whispered. “How did you stand it? How did you even survive?”

“What?” Tara asked in alarm. In response, Dawn pointed to the document on the screen, where Tara learned that she had given birth to an 80-pound, 5-ounce infant.

“And you keep hounding me for sex,” she said accusingly to Willow. “As if that isn’t what got me into that mess in the first place.”

Willow quickly corrected the typo. “Thanks,” she muttered to Dawn, as she made sure that Kyra had in fact been 19 inches and not 109.

Such logistical matters were fairly simple for someone of Willow’s almost infinite computer skills. “Quite the hackage package,” Tara commended her, as Willow produced yet another form confirming her legal adoption of Kyra as a second parent.

Far more sobering, though, were the emotional realities and the mystical implications. Tara had felt from the beginning that Kyra had been sent to them intentionally; that, for whatever reason, they were meant to be Kyra’s mothers. Willow was somewhat more uncertain as she pondered it all, though the crying roulette game had definitely left an impression. Her doubts were put to rest, however, a week after Kyra had joined them.

Tara was preparing the formula for her evening feeding, shaking a couple of drops onto the inside of her wrist to check for temperature, and pressing the bottom of the plastic liner against the side of the bottle to force any air out through the nipple. “Gas is just never fun,” she commented, and Willow had to agree. Kyra apparently found this prologue entirely too long, and cried out her impatience for the story to commence in earnest.

Willow, who’d been rocking Kyra in a vain attempt to soothe her, glanced over at Tara to see how the preparations were coming--and stopped cold.

“Your shirt…” was all she managed to say.

Tara gave her a quizzical look, then peered down at her light blue pullover--which was now noticeably darker in two spots.

She stared at Willow, stunned beyond words. Then, eyes widening even further, she pointed and said, “Your shirt.”

But Willow had felt it even as Tara spoke. The inspection was a cursory one; confirmatory, not exploratory.

“Willow--we’re lactating!”

“That seems…noteworthy,” Willow managed. “And painful, too,” she added, as the fullness in her breasts became more pronounced.

The group had received this news with a mixture of excitement and disbelief.

“It’s like she’s totally yours,” Dawn breathed, her voice filled with awe. “Both of yours…This is just too cool.”

“Giles,” Willow asked, “is there any record of anything like this ever occurring?”

“I’ve scanned several texts, but I’ve found no discussion of such a birth or such maternal circumstances. I must confess, this is all quite perplexing.” The Watcher shook his head.

“Giles, that sentence took at least fifteen seconds to say,” Xander commented, sighing in faux exasperation. “Now try this: ‘No.’ See? Compare, and save.”

“Actually, Jesus of Nazareth was the product of a lesbian relationship,” Anya said, matter-of-factly.

This effectively brought all conversation to an end.

Finally, Buffy broke the silence. “Jesus. The Jesus,” she said simply, tilting her head as if considering the possibility that Anya might be, among so many other things, mentally unstable.

“Sure,” the ex-demon confirmed, seemingly taken aback by all the hoo-ha. “Good carpenter. Infinitely loving and kind. A very welcome guest for all functions involving wine, bread, and fishes. I’m surprised you don’t know this.”

“And just where did you happen upon such…unique information?” Giles asked slowly, his expression suggesting that he half-hoped she wouldn’t supply the answer.

“It’s common knowledge in most dimensions,” Anya replied easily. “And it should be here. You’ve heard of the rosary, right?”

“The rosary?” Tara echoed, looking at Willow in abject confusion.

“Sure--you know: ‘Hail Mary, full of grace.’ Well, the ‘G’ in ‘grace’ should be capitalized.” She paused, waiting for the others to hop, jump, or at least stumble onto the Clue Train. When they didn’t, she sighed.

“Grace wasn’t an abstract concept; she was Mary’s partner.”

The names were different, but the slack-jawed expressions in the room were largely identical. Finally, Xander said hesitantly, “And Mary was...full of her?”

“That’s the scoop. Oh, He was definitely a holy man. Just a very different nativity scene. Word on the street is that Saint Peter wasn’t too cool with the women-loving-women part. I think his wife had left him for one of the other apostle’s sisters,” she added thughtfully.

It was much later when Willow and Tara, left with Kyra bundled snuggly into a soft blanket embroidered with penguins. (“No rabbits, frogs, or horses,” Tara had clarified the day before as she selected the item in question. “Check.”)

“So we don’t know where she came from, or why she’s here,” Willow summarized. “What we do know is that she’s connected to us in some incredibly powerful way, because she cries when somebody else tries to hold her…And because we’re both producing milk.” She stopped and looked at Tara. “Is this freaking you out at all?”

“More than I can really convey,” Tara replied. “The only thing I feel more than freaked is…right. I mean, this feels right. There’s absolutely no reason why it should, and it absolutely does.”

Willow looked down at the tiny creature nestled in her arms. “Yeah,” she whispered. “It absolutely does.”

*****

To Be Continued



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Re: Part 3

Postby Patches » Wed May 05, 2004 12:12 am

Hello good Mary,



Dispensing with all commentary regarding plot etc etc etc and jumping right to, "“Sure--you know: ‘Hail Mary, full of grace.’ Well, the ‘G’ in ‘grace’ should be capitalized.” She paused, waiting for the others to hop, jump, or at least stumble onto the Clue Train. When they didn’t, she sighed..." and on from there. I haven't stopped laughing! So nice to know when we're roasting in Hell (which apparently no longer exists if you're Catholic, and what's with *that*), you'll be right there writing hilarious one liners!



Okay - to the plot, just WTF are you cooking up? So what good scribe is in a name? Kyra as the answer to Gnostic mysticism; light and dark embodied in one 'soul' ... that's quite the set up; toss in a little Celtic mysticism and I can't wait to see where this goes...



Well, it appears Kyra's influence is being felt at the most basic level. At least she'll never go hungry. Although one might wonder _why_ Kyra's, or some-one-thing's- making it so she can double up on meal time ... (I can see a Y&R happening. Kid goes to camp for the weekend and comes home a college graduate.)



Mary, your writing is always a delight to read. Definitely a reason to look forward to Tuesdays. Nice to look forward to something. Keep my mind off going completely insane while planning the wedding ... your timing is perfect - lol.



Peace!!

Patches





You know I've heard about people like me. But I never made the connection. They walk one road to set them free, And find they've gone the wrong direction. But there's no need for turning back 'cause all roads lead to where I stand. And I believe I'll walk them all No matter what I may have planned

Edited by: Patches at: 5/4/04 11:47 pm
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Re: Part 3

Postby mollyig » Wed May 05, 2004 2:54 am

Buffy's argument to Giles about naming the baby surprised me - in a good way. I always felt that her character was "dumbed down" a bit too much. After all she did manage to score high enough grades to get into college.



Before they even started lactating our girls had an innate belief that Kyra was theirs. I'm sure Giles is only looking out for everyone by being so dubious, but the evidence is starting to mount up now.



And mad little me was happy that Kyra had a penguin blanket!


"Love is just like breathing when it's true" Indigo Girls

mollyig
 


Re: Part 3

Postby jixer » Wed May 05, 2004 3:46 am

Hello Kittens-



Well, that was unexpected Mary. And hard on the clothes.



Sorry Patches, Catholics get toasty too. I'm afraid when it comes to us Papists we're usually too damn lazy (or proud, or proud and lazy) to even look stuff up. Sorry about that-hot button.



Jixer





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Re: Part 3

Postby JustSkipIt » Wed May 05, 2004 5:55 am

Mary, Mary, Mary...



Oh my girl...



Riley and Graham? That's the best thing I've ever heard about Riley! :rofl



The rest of the logistics seem to proceed in a reasonable manner. Interesting that the entire group helped name the baby. Go Dawn! As always I love Anya!



Nice that Willow could computer up all those legal and logistical forms. Do you think she could manage to get the birth certificate sent to us? Also, if she can do second-parent adoptions that quick, that can save a few thousand dollars. Oh, the benefits of computer and fiction...



Not surprised that both Willow & Tara are lactating. They are around the baby all the time and connected and apparently both parents. Should be an interesting process to both breast-feed one baby. But at least those diapers will be much better smelling with breast milk than formula...



And the kicker: Hail Mary full of Grace! You just have no respect for the classics do you? Woo hoo!



God, it's good to have you back! Debra



Oh yeah, and you might want to ensure that W/T/K don't ever travel to Oklahoma. Yesterday the governor of Oklahoma, Brad Henry, signed HB1821. This bill makes the state of Oklahoma, all counties, and agencies REFUSE to recognize adoptions by same-sex couples which are performed in other jurisdictions! :explode

Oppose the Federal Marriage Amendment

Edited by: JustSkipIt at: 5/5/04 5:29 am
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Re: Part 3

Postby wimpy0729 » Wed May 05, 2004 6:10 am

Hey Mary!



They way your mind works is incredible and a treat for all of us. This is looking like some ride for us readers.



With W/T both lactating, I'd say there's a good chance the baby will be over 80 lb soon.



And the comments on Maggie Walsh, Riley and Mary full of Grace...I was laughing so hard I thought my side was literally going to split. Have to put a binder on for your updates!



Thanks for the chuckles!



Wimpy

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Replies and Ramblings Re: Religion

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed May 05, 2004 9:12 am

Hello, good Kittens.



As I said, I truly hope that my "Hail Mary, full of Grace" section didn't offend anyone. I meant no disrespect to either Christianity in general or Catholicism in particular. More than anything, the sheer double-entendre of the sentence captured my fancy. I've also been, I confess, skeptical re: the gender disproportion in many major religions, such that I couldn't resist the chance to balance things out a little bit. Having said that, I'll also add that I think Jesus was a pretty cool guy--embodying both profound love and radical social activism...Not the easiest combo to pull off.



OK--now to specific replies...



Patches, Most Dear--Are Nuptials Near? What's this about a wedding?!? I want details, sweetie, and please tell me you're having lots o' bridesmaids, all of whom will be wearing a gargantuan pink bow on their ass...



Glad you liked the nativity scene. I'm not terribly up to date on my official guides to the afterlife, since I'm not affiliated with any organized religion. I just don't see hell, but what do I know...



Li'l Kyra's mystical import...Are you Celtic by nature or nurture? Or neither? Yeah--I'm all about dualities; avoiding the false dichotomy.



And our girl will never go hungry, will she? I wanted to make it clear that while Tara may feel like the more "natural" mother (by virtue of her abiding gentleness and nurturance), Kyra is connected to both of them in a profound, essential way.



Thanks for the great feedback, Patches. And gimme some scoop on the "I do's," OK? Consider yourself regarded with serious rockage acclaim...



Mollyig: Oh yeah--I've always thoght they rendered Buffy simplistic, esp. in the last two sacrileges--I mean, seasons. She became very self-absorbed and reactive, in my perception. Thanks for checking this out and offering your feedback.



Jixer: Yeah--there's gonna be some laundry a-brewin' tonight...Again, I hope I didn't seem disrespectful. Thanks for staying with me after my long absence, Jixer. Hope the tomato plants are doing well...



Debra: Oh God, I'm so glad you liked the Riley/Graham twist. I mean, it definitely hung out there as this surreal moment in an otherwise straight-forward discussion, but I finally realized that while I bear Riley no antipathy, I just don't feel drawn to writing him, and I'm disinclined to have someone in the gang who feels like an afterthought to me. So here's hoping he and Graham reach some kind of...understanding.



And here's what heartened me most, Debra: Your kind words re: the exposition of factual aspects. 'Cuz sweetie, lean close and witness the confession: Such things are by far my most difficult chore. I can so easily get caught up in the mystical meaning of it all, and throw myself into that drama...but the world of fact? There's a great line from "I've Heard the Mermaids Singing," where the protagonist comments, "My last employer said I was organizationally impaired." That's pretty much me. So I know that within a universe like this one, the writer has no small latitude of flexibility re: real life; at the same time, however, there has to be at least some modicum of plausibility, or explanation, to keep the reader smoothly connected to the story. And that's something I've found you do really well in your fics, Debra, and it's esp. compelling since you write AU's that are nonetheless deeply connected to canon. All that by way of saying: Thank you--like, a lot, for your kind words.



So breast milk makes for less pungent diapers? See--I had no idea. And oh, my God...I can't believe the Oklahoma debacle...No, wait--I can. In these times--I can believe it far too easily...So how are the legalities in Texas? Are you and Rachel having much trouble navigating the adoption?



Thanks, Debra, for the encouragement and welcome. It's always so good to see your name here. Hugs to you and yours...



Wimpy: Oh yeah--that's gonna be one hefty baby...Glad you liked the Riley/Maggie diversions; they were pretty fun to write. And full of Grace? Yeah--girlfriend had it going on...



Thanks for the wonderful feedback, Wimpy. Made me blush, I say...



Later, mes amis.

Mary






AntigoneUnbound
 


Re: Replies and Ramblings Re: Religion

Postby Puff » Wed May 05, 2004 10:14 am

LMBAO what a wonderful update. Okay so there are way too many things that I loved about this update to mention them all but I have to mention some of them so here goes. I loved the Riley/Graham thing, Buffy wanting to call the baby Barbie was brilliant also. I can imagine her one day calling her own children this, oh and Tara's comment about Barbie made me laugh so hard I had to put down my tea (and her pun was pretty funny too). Thank God I did because then we get to Mary full of Grace and that Jesus was the product of lesbians, with the very funny side comment about Peter.



Even with all of this humor you manage to capture so well the love between Willow and Tara, so many moments when they just looked at each other, or shared little kisses. Even the fact that Willow knew that Tara was upset when no one else did because of her body posture make their relationship so wonderful. And I must commend you on the far superior use of the "Your shirt." line, now there was something I'd have liked to see on TV. *Pauses to think about seeing that and then has to shake head to clear it and carry on*



Insightful Xander is fun. Anya is brilliant and I love reading her dialogue in your stories. I thought it was great when she punched Tara in the arm and told her "You were a real trooper". Very Anya like.



Ok I seem to have rambled on in my praise for your writing and update. So the only thing left to say is thank you for posting it. As always I look forward to more :)



So, the day started and I knew my name and had my pants on. So far, so good. Yay.
Amber Benson

Puff
 


Re: Part 3

Postby justin » Wed May 05, 2004 12:19 pm

That was a great update :applause



You know I've never thought about Riley and Graham, but now that you mention it, it seems so right.



The mystery definitely seems to be deepening.



Looking forward to :read more



There's more than one way to do it. - The Perl mantra

justin
 


Re: Replies and Ramblings Re: Religion

Postby Modjadji » Wed May 05, 2004 12:34 pm

Again, a wonderful update. :clap



It's the little, supposedly insignificant lines that make the difference between an average fic and a really great (and hilarious) piece of writing. I'm in a list-making sort of space today (started winter term at the building of boredom and despair today), so, in no particular order:



* Riley's hazy sexuality - I agree with your sentiments about getting rid of superfluous characters, but you always manage to do it in the funniest way possible (I hark back to a certain collection of Byzantium-shaped knights who disappeared mysteriously in GSaA) ;)



* Anya. Anya Anya Anya Anya Anya. So well-written. Full of Grace *snort*. Bad coffee moment.



* Tara's instant "momma bear" reaction to Kyra. She always knows when to put her head first and when to follow her heart, and this was definitely a heart-intensive situation.



* 100% reclaiming of the "Your shirt..." line. Bravo!



* Buffy is intelligent! People forget this! You don't!



I could go on all night, but said building of boredom and despair is lashing out with homework-shaped tentacles.



Oh, and on the name front...Modjadji is pronounced roughly like More-judgy (i'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere), except obviously without the 'r' part of more. She's a Zulu rain goddess, and I ended up with the nickname after managing to drive halfway across the country followed by a rain cloud - twice. However, mojo, mo or imo usually works just as well, I'm not as grandiose as all that :p



Keep it up!



TTFN,

mo

No matter how short life may seem, it's still the longest thing you'll ever do.

Modjadji
 

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