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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:03 pm

Hello all. First of all, a huge shout-out to Warduke (Brian) who helped me get the whole update into one post and retained the EZ codes. Secondly, I'm heading out tomorrow for a wedding and won't be back until Sunday. I probably won't be able to update until Tuesday. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Debra, y'all stay safe and dry down in Texas, OK? And yes, I think you can call dibs on a pre-update notice, even if Washi says you can't! Patches, I think you get an extra special 3rd place ribbon for being here at all, considering your schedule!

Rose: So glad you like the Willow/Tara moments. They're wondrously wonderful to write! Thanks, Rose.

Anne: You know, I'm all about the unexpected opportunities (and challenges) that arise as a function of random circumstance. In this case, both women happen to be awake at the same time; Faith is, as you point out, caught red-handed (Willow=Red=Heh...); it's dark, when everything is muted and somehow being vulnerable is a little more tenable. (I think there's something beyond work schedules and discomfort with nudity that accounts for so much of human sexual activity taking place at night.)

And the knees comment? Gotta admit, that's a projection of my own athletic history and orthopedic consequences thereof!

Glad you enjoyed this, Anne; thanks for following.

Naeryn: Well, clearly I have a soft spot for Faith. I mean, yeah--she's done her share (and your share, and at least part of my share) of bad stuff but I find her a really intriguing character. I wanted some time to spend on her history, and I didn't see her opening up over coffee at the Espresso Pump. I'll be curious to know what people think of where I go w/ the Buffy/Faith connection. Thanks for the kind words, Naeryn!

Paul: How's it going? OK, the Xena episode referenced herein: I can't remember the name, but Xena and Gabrielle have 2 seemingly competing tasks. First, they have to stop a giant from pillaging a town, and they have to stop a war lord from doing the same to a different town. So they set up camp in one village with this heterosexual couple and the wife (Minya; sp?) is totally in awe of Xena. Asks if they need anything, and Xena replies that they'd love a bath. Minya pours them both a nice hot one, and they're in the same tub. One of the most thinly-veiled erotic scenes in the show's history. And I liked it. Oh, yes...I liked it...

I think you're absolutely right about the few bright spots making the dark ones all the more unbearable. If I have no hope, I give up completely. But hope, unmet? Give me knee pain any day. And this:
Just another case of it all depending upon your own personal perspective. It's amazing how two like-minded people can have totally different perceptions of the same person simply because they have seen different parts of their personality.
You're right. To Faith, Buffy looks like the height of sophistication.
Thanks for following this so well and leaving such thoughtful comments, Paul. Hope you have a great weekend.

Watson: Ah, Watty...Give her an inch, she wants a breakfast noogy buffet...I commend your ho-liness!

As I mentioned to Anne, I think chance had a lot to do with this exchange, though I see Faith as being so desperate in her feelings that her life-long wariness is suspended, at least under these circumstances. There's so much vulnerability to the girl, and it has almost always been used against her. Interesting speculation, too, about the possibility of the BB overhearing this and using it. Always thinkin', aren't you Watson? I like that about you...

Oh, the cinnamon reference. Yes, I find it such a comforting thing, and it served the symmetry purpose well. Sorry about the American product placement! They're basically these little cracker/cookie snack, shaped like little teddy bears. I'm sorry if it comes off as Americentric; I just wanted to use a specific product for realism's sake, esp. since we were in Willow's mind.

Thanks for the kind words, Watson. You're anything but elementary.

Willow Rosenberg: How are you doing in academia-ville? The college students here are about to hit their first wave of exams; that always suffuses the town with a kind of free-floating angst and terror.

Thanks for the assessment re: Faith and her exposition. As I mentioned to Naeryn, I do feel for the girl. Plus, she just makes a fantastic character, b/c she tends to pull a lot from the audience. I loved your thoughts on Faith opening up to Willow in particular, and how she might value her opinion. You're right: no one knows Buffy the person better than Willow.

Thanks for taking the time to catch up and leave feedback, WR. I know it's a crazy time. Take care of yourself!

Russ, Russ; your feedback's a mus(t): Ah, raspberries...I'm taking a bunch with me tomorrow, to share with my friends. (We're all renting a beach house for 3 days. Since it's a beach wedding, we thought, "Why not take advantage?")

I know how much you valued growth in your Scoobies, Russ! I won't let you down.

It's always enjoyable to write exposition scenes, b/c you can explore some of the nuances of emotions a little more easily. At least, that's how it feels to me. And you're absolutely right:
They have found out what may be important information: that the enemy operates in real time, and that when thwarted of its hat trick, it lost its cool and became sloppy, less subtle in its attack.


You know, it's such a wild thing to write erotic scenes. I mean, I wouldn't recognize any Kittens if we passed on the street but we definitely share experiences and how life's treating us and then...then some of us end up writing stories or parts of stories where folks are gettin' nekkid and doin' all sorts of things. I used to be in a writers' group (before 2 of them left town; grumble...) and that was one of the things we talked about vulnerability re: writing sex. So if you're cleaning your glasses but not going, "Eww, Mary--gross!" I feel like I'm walking a decent line!

Thanks so much for the wonderful feedback, Russ. I love seeing your name on this thread. We go back a long way...

OK, folks. Thanks again, and have a good one.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby GayNow » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:08 pm

The Delightful Mary in her reply to Paul wrote:OK, the Xena episode referenced herein: I can't remember the name


*raises hand and waves* Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know!

The episode was called A Day in the Life -- That's season 2.



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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:21 pm

"Yes, you there in the Kitten t-shirt--you know the answer?"

[Carleen replies assuredly.]

"That's absolutely right! 'A Day in the Life.' Excellent work, Gay Nau Carr."
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby watty » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:48 pm

noonexenafan2001 wrote:*raises hand and waves* Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know!

The episode was called A Day in the Life -- That's season 2.

Oh Mary! You have to take points away. She forgot which episode. A true fan will use season and episode number when referring to their favorite show. What? you don't refer to OMWF as 6.07? OKAY, I'm a dork.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby Darth Pacula » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:51 pm

Okay, now since you've all gone to the trouble to give me a rundown of the Xena episode Mary was talking about, not to mention exact season and episode details ( thanks Carleen and Watson ), does that mean I'm obligated to rush downstairs, pop in the DVD and watch it straight away? Because that would be such a terrible hardship. :-D

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby Naeryn » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:53 pm

watson wrote:
noonexenafan2001 wrote:*raises hand and waves* Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I know!

The episode was called A Day in the Life -- That's season 2.

Oh Mary! You have to take points away. She forgot which episode. A true fan will use season and episode number when referring to their favorite show. What? you don't refer to OMWF as 6.07? OKAY, I'm a dork.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby s82 v » Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:57 am

These last two updates were truly great. Thank you for posting!

More soon? ;-)
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby watty » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:30 am

Naeryn wrote:...you rock, watson.

Why thank you, Megan.

I don't watch Xena, despite constantly hanging out with Car, but I do a mean google. And Paul -- the episode in question is 2.15, you probably know this.

Ahem. Topic. Um, topic ... Mary's use of flat in the last update and catalogue in this one is evidence that she is secretly someone from the British Commonwealth and the next update will contain the term trousers. Discuss.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby justin » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:06 am

That was a great update.

The conversation between WIllow and Faith was really interesting. Though I have to wonder if Faith will regret opening up like that later on. Probably not but if she did it could create bad feelings between her and WIllow.

It's clear that Faith doesn't see herself as being good enough for Buffy. Will the BB be able to use that against her?
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby russ » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:18 pm

Good catch on Mary's hidden identity, Watson. Lots of people use British slang, quoting Spike or Giles, but using the correct spelling is a dead giveaway.

Cheers,

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby vix84 » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:36 pm

In the process of googling those teddy grahams, I found this:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/recipes/EspeciallyforKids/Desserts/FrozenYogurtTeddyTreats.html

I hope that you are equally disgusted by this recipe! Some of the stuff that is sold in America befuddles me.

On to the update, I want to commend you for the way you write Faith and the amount of gap-filling you did with her story from canon. She was always an awkward character - so much potential but never explored. You do her great justice. I love the scene starting with her looking at the photos of the family to her talking about the time she stayed at Buffy's house.

Willow handles it very well. Her thoughts throughout the update, especially the one about the animal running away, give so much insight. And, of course, the scene with her climbing back into bed with Tara is just goo-ey cute goodness. Even sweeter than the teddy grahams.

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby jixer » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:55 pm

Hello Kittens-

Mary, that was a wonderfully wrought chapter. The way that your Willow can reach out, still recognize her own fears and go past them is just so true to the woman you have created. Then there's Faith. I can only wish that one day her history is completely fictional. Too many people should not be allowed children, dogs, or potted plants. I think it struck me because I can see that child she was reflected too many times. The way that Faith is reacting to Buffy makes me wonder about her safety, and not just from the Big Bad.

Sorry to be behind with the feedback, on a road trip right now.


Thank you,


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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby JustSkipIt » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:20 am

Hey Mary,
I hope you have a good weekend. Thanks for the well wishes. Right now we're just all settling in for some bad weather and power outages. My sister's family tried to come up yesterday from Houston and couldn't get out of the city. I really hope that they manage to get out today.

Well, this is two threads now that are talking about Xena. I admitted over in CB that I never liked or got into the show. But I at least know enough to follow your update. I mean great, they're lesbians or repressed lesbians or whatever. That's what everyone says. Great, nice dream.

Such a nice interaction between Willow and Faith. I never really got that Willow analyzed other people's words and actions so well as she's done in this story. I mean usually that's Tara's perview (sp?) but here, Willow is pretty much empathy woman. She's showing a wonderful level of understanding and communication whether stopping a roomfull of people from offing themselves or talking to a scared little girl (and yes I think of Faith as a child) in the hallway.

Very well done.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby Ressick » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:17 pm

I have to say, I absolutely love your interactions between Willow and Faith. I think they just hit the nail on the head of how those two might react to each other. Just awesome. Your Faith is wonderful. As you can tell I'm not great with the effusive praise, but I really mean it. This story rocks. Like those shifting tectonic plates from :wtkiss
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby terra21 » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:49 pm

Hi Mary,

I'm a little late to this shindig but I just wanted you to know that you are effn brilliant! Yeah, I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Ya see I was reading this from the beginning and taking notes. I was gonna wait until I got caught up and then leave all the feedback at once. Plus, I told Car that I was gonna try to beat her word count on her feedback from a couple of chapters ago.

Well, I figured if I told you that my dog ate my feedback that you wouldn't believe me, cause, well, you don't really know me. So, I took pictures...

http://us.share.geocities.com/terra21212001/HPIM0916.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/terra21212001/notepad.BMP

So there, I have proof. BTW, here are a few notes that I could salvage...


There's a baby??
The scene at the construction site where W/T 'just know' the right spell has always gave me shivers.
Riley Bisexual! LMAO!!
Anya's story about Mary and Grace - Genius.
Who owns the 3 mysterious voices?
Did you know that you have two part 3's?
OMG Kyra reaching for Faith!
Dude, your freaking smut is freaking amazing.
Faith in love with Buffy...this could be interesting and unbelievable HOT.
Above any other writer on this board (that I've read) your stuff could easily fit into the show. The dialogue between characters rings so true to what would actually be said by them.
Kyra. Big question mark. Out of darkness comes light. Her 'powers.' You've got me hooked.
The chapter where the BB tried to take 3 scoobies was magnificent. That, my dear, was intricately woven.
Did I mention the smut is freaking amazing?!!


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P.S. I'll put my notes out of the dog's reach next time.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby Naeryn » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:24 pm

watson wrote:
Naeryn wrote:...you rock, watson.

Why thank you, Megan.

I don't watch Xena, despite constantly hanging out with Car, but I do a mean google. And Paul -- the episode in question is 2.15, you probably know this.

Ahem. Topic. Um, topic ... Mary's use of flat in the last update and catalogue in this one is evidence that she is secretly someone from the British Commonwealth and the next update will contain the term trousers. Discuss.
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I use the word 'catalogue', and I'm not British. I'm Canadian. I got to keep my u's, you American weirdos o.O...

Anywhom. There is no point to this except to say that I use the word 'catalogue'. So there.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby tal » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:04 am

Mary,

You are far too good to me, you know that, right?... a whole update with my lovely Faith, who could possibly ask for more? Well, I could, of course (an oily back-rub comes to mind), but I won't. I ain't greedy. Well… not much anyway.

Seriously though, a truly wonderful update. I love your Faith, and not just for the obvious reason of her being so much more consistent in your story than she ever was on the show. I love that she's repenting without the gut-wrenching guilt-trip so commonly used in these situations. I love that she knows where she went wrong, and yet avoids the obvious need for the 'if only's, or the self-pity. And most of all I love how she knows she shouldn't even want Buffy, yet you could almost feel the underline need to see this thing through.

In other words, that's some fancy characterization you've got goin' there, kid… beautiful.

Oh, and – Faith awake and in hallway after W&T's night of passion… hmmm. Slayer hearing… Hmmm. M'just saying.

Court was good, btw. Thanks.

Hope you had a good weekend, and that the wedding went well.

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby the hero factor » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:36 pm

Great conversation between Willow and Faith. You write Faith very well, and I'm enjoying getting some backstory on her.

And the end, with Willow climbing back into bed with Tara...Awwww. So sweet.

Great update, I can't wait for more.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby cygnet 6 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:32 pm

Having lurked my way through the entire Antigone Unbound oeuvre, I guess I owe you several years of feedback. However, in the interest of saving time and space, I’ll just summarize by saying that everything you have written on Pens is great.

As to this update, I’m glad we got to see more of what is going on in Faith’s mind—how she feels about the past and how she came to realize that she has a crush on Buffy. It should be interesting to see how (or if) you develop the Faith-Buffy relationship. I don’t think you’ve given us any signs that Buffy is interested in, or attracted to, Faith. Or maybe I’m wrong—it’s been a while since I read the beginning of this story. Anyway, I have to think that Buffy would have some pretty huge trust issues, even if she were attracted to Faith.

Great update.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby Safuega » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:16 pm

Hi Mary:

Puerto Rico was incredibly hot and humid and the mosquitoes seemed bent on destroying me. I went down to the island to be with my best friend whose father passed away recently. I did not do much of the touristy thing, but it was really good to see her and be there for her.

Thanks for the good wishes for the new job. I'm actually excited about it, but I like to complain about having to work to anyone who'd listen. Ah, if only I'd been born into a wealthy family. *sigh* Why do I have to work for a living, why, why, why! See?

Okay, about this bittersweet update of yours. I like that Willow is actively reaching out to Faith and offering her friendship. Faith needs friend. Heck, she needs a community. But I read Faith's retelling of the disastrous events that cast her out of Buffy's life and my heart goes out to her. It made me think that for Faith finding Buffy must have been akin to finding her tribe only to find that her tribe did not want her. Finally Faith finds the only other person that is like her, that perhaps would understand her and her needs only to find that there is a whole class and cultural chasm between them. Clearly being slayers does not mean that they are "sisters". I really like that you are attuned to this class difference and are addressing it with quite a bit of compassion. I also like that you show us that Faith's life has been hard, perhaps harder than Xander's, but you also shows us a Faith willing to look back at her life and examine it. Faith could have chosen not to open up to Willow, but instead she takes a positive step and shares her pain with Willow who is marvelously sympathetic and just listens.

Very honest and real update, Mary. As usual, I look forward to more.

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby histchic » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:26 pm

First of all, I would like to say that I am both a BtVS and Kitten newbie.
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Having that said, I'm not quite up on the history of these characters, but you write them so well...there's not really a need for deep background. Learning about these characters first through the fan fiction, I meet them through the eyes of those who explore their fullest potential, both their successes and shortcomings. IMHO, this is the best way to learn a person, instead of getting the Cliff's Notes version perpetuated on the actual show(what few episodes I have seen). This particular story is excellent in the prowess of its author, weaving W/T world and real life seamlessly, and I love the ever-so-subtle pop culture references. Anya is also a hoot, there are no white elephants in the room with her. So, again, thank you for crafting such a brilliant tale and letting the rest of us watch as it progresses. I'm sure I wont be the only one who is glued to the monitor.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:01 pm

Hello, all. Hope everyone had a great weekend. For my part, I was able to celebrate with friends and consume really quite inappropriate amounts of alcohol which is a profound rarity for me but always illuminating when it happens. Our friend was also able to make it from Baton Rouge; caught the last plane out of NO before they closed it down that day. Hearing her discuss the situation there made all of my various woes seem pretty unremarkable (and infinitely manageable) by comparison.

And to clarify certain points raised earlier on this page: 1) I am of rural Midwestern US extraction where we do indeed wear trousers and read catalogues. 2) I have heard other US citizens speak of "flats." I refer the reader to the Mary Chapin Carpenter lyric, "Now she comes home to a cat / and a three-room walk-up flat." It might be argued that she used this solely for purposes of rhyming, but I'll let others wrestle with that point.

Thank you.

Now, on to replies:

s82 Welcome! I'm glad you're enjoying this. I'll be posting late Tuesday or Wednesday afternoon. Thanks!

Justin Ah, look at you, all with the psychology...I wonder about Faith's reaction; possible post-vulnerability regret. That's why I included a brief reference to that at the end. Faith needs to pretend that she's mortified (or at least mortified at the thought of anyone knowing about it), but she can also clearly recognize it as pretense. The fact is, in order for her to grow in this story (from what we were given), she simply can't revert to canon form. So much of the time, she seemed to be lurching in all directions--but always with one foot nailed to the floor. Lots of activity; not much directionality. Thanks for the good words, Justin!

Vix84: Well, I guess now I know what to take for Thanksgiving dessert! Nummy treats...As you can see, a lot of readers have strong feelings about Faith (some positive, some negative) and a lot of those feelings have to do with the way that they dropped the character development ball on the girl. I'm glad you're enjoying her in this story; I'm definitely enjoying writing her. And Willow comes through. I think the events of the week, esp. 2 nights ago, have changed her feelings immensely. Thanks for following this little tale o' mine.

Hey Jixer! Where's the road trip? If you happen to drive through central Pennsylvania (and God help you if you do), stop by and I'll give you some raspberries! Loved your point about Faith's mistreatment in canon, and yes--Willow is learning how to handle her own stuff too. Thanks for taking time out of the trip to check in, and enjoy the rest of your time away.

Debra: I saw some of the coverage of the exodus; the roads looked like something out of a horror movie. I hope all is well with your sister.

Yeah, Willow's more empathic (and able to act on that empathy) than she's given credit for; at least, this is my take. I think that when Tara entered the scene, she was so intuitive that Willow paled by comparison. But girlfriend's no slouch in that category. Thanks for the good words, and I continue to send good thoughts to the whole Gulf region.

Ressick: Thanks! I think that Willow and Faith make such interesting agents in a conversation: one so cerebral; the other so physical. But both know what it's like to feel like an outsider; to have huge self-doubts that shadow them. Faith's just "better" at hiding them, at least initially. Glad you're enjoying this.

Terra: Hey girl! Welcome aboard! And holy visual aids, Bat Man, that's some chew toy! I think I'll end another sentence with an exclamation mark, because I'm feeling so emphatic!

Nice summary of the salvaged notes. I have two Part 3's? Hmm...I don't usually go for prime numbers...Thanks for the very kind words, m'dear. I'm blushing right down to my patellas. (And they're shameless!) Hope you enjoy where it goes from here.

Tal: Well, I asked myself, "What would Tal want?" And that's my starting point...

I loved your observations about Faith, particularly this:
I love that she's repenting without the gut-wrenching guilt-trip so commonly used in these situations.

I absolutely agree that so many shows use that to the point where I just wanna gag; plus, it doesn't feel believable. I think that Faith values action, regardless of the situation. So if she feels bad and wants to atone, she'll do something about it, not just sit there and flagellate herself all day. (If she tries to fellate herself, I'll pull her aside and clarify the situation.) And oh my goddess--did she hear Willow and Tara? What must she have thought? Such naughty things...

Thanks for the good thoughts, Tal, and I'll work on that oily back rub. (The only problem is that my fingers keep slipping off the keys.)

Hero Factor: The backstory felt important. Faith didn't just become who she is by one bad experience. I thought she deserved more than that. Glad you're enjoying it, and thanks for letting me know.

Cygnet: Hey, I thought I felt you looking over my shoulder the past couple of years...Welcome out of lurkerdom! I see this is your first post; I hope it was good for you, too...This board is filled with great stories and writers. Stop by whenever you feel like it. No, I haven't shown indication of Buffy's possible Sapphic inclination, and you're right, she'll have huge trust issues if she is attracted to Faith. Glad you're enjoying this; thanks for the good words!

Safuega: Oh God, I hate mosquitoes. Hope the itching has abated somewhat. It's so important, I think, to show up for the people we say matter to us. When my father died, I definitely took particular notice of who came through--despite their own discomfort with grief; despite how hard it was to see me hurting. I'm glad you went.

OK, this really stood out to me:
Finally Faith finds the only other person that is like her, that perhaps would understand her and her needs only to find that there is a whole class and cultural chasm between them. Clearly being slayers does not mean that they are "sisters". I really like that you are attuned to this class difference and are addressing it with quite a bit of compassion.

I say that because class was completely ignored in Buffyverse, as was race. ("I'm sorry, but we only allow so many Black people in Sunnydale at any one time.") None of the Scoobies have ever had to wonder if they would have a roof over their head, or enough to eat. Yes, Xander clearly has some tough family stuff but Faith was poor: flat-out, wolves-at-the-door poor. Excellent observation, Safuega. As always, I love your attunement to such matters. Welcome back, and have fun with the Calamine lotion.

histchic: Hey, welcome to you, too! Cygnet is also a newbie, at least to posting. I'm glad you found us! The best feature of "BtVS," I believe, is its characters. You'll find a lot of people whose admiration grew tempered over time, esp. the last two seasons, but your own reaction may be different. I'm glad you're enjoying the characters here. I have a lot of fondness for them. Welcome again, and thanks for the kind words.

OK--more later.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby ShyTemptress » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:25 pm

I'm so very upset. I was like fully excited cause I thought there was an update. Aww poop to you.
<3 hehe
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby tal » Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:44 am

My dear dear Mary – "what would Tal want?" is a most excellent starting point. More people should implement it as a life-guideline and all will be well with my world… (yeah, that was suppose to be a 'the' but lying after a long day in court just seems a little… excessive.)

And yes, I do believe Faith is way long overdue for a nice detailed talk about the birds and the bees. If you need aaaany help with that, please feel free to ask, as I'm feeling rather neighborly at the moment. And people say chivalry is dead. Pah.

Oh, and oily fingers on keys? Hon, you just ain't trying hard enough.

update please. *batting eyelashes, but in a cool and least pathetic way possible*

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:39 pm

Hello all, all. Two final replies, and then an update.

Kristen: Poop to me? Well, I never...(And I mean that.)

Tal: OK, so, I talked to Faith and she's coming over to my place in about half an hour. She made me promise to invite you, though, so clear your schedule and bring the oil.

OK--update to follow. Wish me luck on the postage front!

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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby AntigoneUnbound » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:59 pm

AS TIME GOES BY

Part 23

Summary:
Babies and Faith and a Big Bad, oh my! / I seem to be rhyming, but I've no idea why.
Pairings: Willow and Tara; the Tigris and Euphrates.
Rating: Eh...let's say somewhere between "R" and "NC-17," shall we? We shall? Good.
Distribution: Avec acknowledgement, s'il vous plait.
Disclaimer: I'm borrowing these lovelies to write this little story / My wish upon their owners is something rather gory.

********

When morning broke the next day, Willow thought for one brief moment that she had dreamt the entire conversation with Faith. She quickly dismissed the possibility, though: her dreams were never that linear.

If I'd dreamt it, Faith would have been wearing a motorcycle helmet and speaking in Danish. Plus that cheese guy would've shown up somewhere...

Everyone shuffled in to breakfast in varying states of consciousness. Anya looked as if she had emerged from REM fully functional and ready to solve for pi, while Xander had the appearance of someone who might easily put his pants on over his head if not gently instructed otherwise. Giles emerged from the bathroom holding his glasses in one hand and in so doing bumped into the door frame. "Bloody hell, who put that there?" he mumbled.

Faith looked remarkably relaxed, Willow thought. She had expected the Dark Slayer to be tense, as if waiting for Willow to jump up from the table and yell, "Faith loves Buffy!" Instead, she greeted Willow with a small, wry grin and a nod, then padded over to the refrigerator. She pulled out a bottle of Diet Coke and poured herself a tall glass.

"Soda first thing in the morning?" Xander asked incredulously, digging into a heaping bowl of Corn Flakes.

"Right...Because coffee is such a natural thing to drink," she replied with the barest of glances in his direction. "And don't even get me started on that tea thing of yours, Watcher Man," she added in response to Giles' disapproving glance.

"That's rather a noxious attitude to take," he huffed.

"That's rather a noxious thing to drink," she retorted, tossing back large, gulping swigs of the extremely, unnaturally carbonated beverage. "Pass the Flakes, flake."

"So what's on everyone's game plan for today?" Buffy asked, as if hoping to forestall an escalation of Trash Talk in the AM. "Are we hanging together?"

"God, much more of this and our menstrual cycles will synchronize," Anya muttered. "Not yours," she added, to a mortified Giles and Xander.

"Not really much for walking along the beach in soft focus," the carpenter said, shoving his hands in his pockets as if the moon goddess herself might try to take up residence in his pants.

"Well, it's a lovely, class-free Saturday," Willow offered. "I was hoping Tara and I could steal a little family time." She reached out to take Tara's willing hand. Because we need to talk.

"I'm all about family values," Tara promptly replied. "Pat Robertson and I were talking about it just yesterday." She expertly flipped a rhomboid pancake onto a large plate, followed in quick succession by a trapezoid, a pentagram, and a very nice likeness of Munch's "The Scream."

"We can help out with research this morning," Willow added, not wanting to appear remiss in her Scooby commitment. "I was just thinking about a little picnic this afternoon."

"Then all of us will gather at the Magic Box later this morning?" Giles asked, sipping his tea and biting delicately into a piece of toast. "We can share register duties."

Xander cleared his throat hesitantly, reaching out for Anya's hand. Willow noticed that the ex-demon seemed far less ebullient this morning. "Um, Ahn and I are going to Trevor's funeral this afternoon," he said, looking at his wife regretfully.

A silence draped over the kitchen like a stifling blanket. Willow could feel each of them remembering their own close calls, or those of the ones they held dearest. And an unspoken question hovered disquietingly, accusingly: How many more?

"Of course," Giles finally said, resting an awkward hand on Anya's shoulder. "Anya, I'm very sorry. I know that you liked and respected him a great deal."

"Yes," she said simply, her voice unusually small. Willow had a sudden memory of Anya after Joyce's death: bewildered at the grief, unsure of what to do with it. For all of the pain that the demon had witnessed--inflicted--over the years, the human was left paralyzed in the face of it.

"Anya," she said suddenly. "Sometimes the partner or family will ask that money be sent to a cause or a charity, instead of flowers. See if his partner did that, and we can make a contribution."

Anya looked up at her in surprise, and unmasked gratitude. "I will," she said quietly. "Thank you."

Breakfast ended soon afterwards, with Dawn dragging Faith toward the sink. "We call this 'dishwashing liquid,'" she said slowly. "Let's learn about it together, shall we?"

After the requisite production involved in getting a small child fed and changed, and packing up a diaper bag with snacks and drinks and Handi-Wipes and Kleenex, Willow, Tara, and Kyra set out for a stroll in the park. The two of them had decided early on that they wouldn't use magic to ease any of the logistical pains of child care....although the dirty diapers had presented a strong temptation. "Tara, c'mon," Willow argued. "Something that hideous requires supernatural intervention. You think Samantha on 'Bewitched' changed Tabitha's diapers?"

"Will, you realize that that was a TV show, right? Not known for its starkly realistic depictions of modern life."

"Or so they would have us believe," Willow muttered darkly.

In the end--as it were--they had agreed that they could use a minor sensory spell to block the more horrific olfactory elements. All else, though, was done as humanity has done it since the first infant gazed up at the first parent and expressed some version of the universal dictate: "Make everything OK for me."

Today was a beautiful day--typical southern California. They reached the park and spread a blanket out on the warm earth. Kyra pulled out her Clifford the Big Red Dog book and proceeded to read it--upside down. She seemed to enjoy it most that way. Tara was relaxed, watching their daughter with abject adoration. Willow hated to spoil everything, and she knew without question that she had to.

"Will, whatever it is--please tell me. I'm not especially in the mood for surprises these days." Tara's voice broke through her reverie: clear, insistent.

It's a good thing I can't see myself cheating. I could never keep a secret from her.

"You're not gonna like it," she began cautiously.

"Well, that part seems pretty clear, judging from the lovely shade of dread you're currently wearing," Tara replied, bemused.

Willow drew a deep breath. "Tara, we need to talk about Kyra. Where she comes from; how she fits into this." She watched, groaning inwardly as ice slid down over features normally vibrant and warm.

"I think we already did," Tara said, her voice thin.

"No, we didn't," Willow countered doggedly. "We've talked about talking about it; we've talked around it; and heaven knows there have been other hot topics every night to lead off the evening news...But we can't put this off any longer, Tara. It's...It's irresponsible not to talk about it."

OK, maybe not the best word choice...

And indeed, Tara was glaring at her as if Willow had accused her of child neglect. "Are you saying I'm irresponsible about Kyra?"

"God, Baby, no! I'm just saying that--Tara, we have to look at certain facts." She wondered if this was how Giles often felt, refusing to let them pretend that the Boogy Man might just be the most benign thing in town at the moment. She leaned forward, clasping Tara's suddenly cold hands in her own. "Tara? Baby? Please talk to me."

The face that turned to her was chalk white, save for red lines of anger that flared across her cheeks like slashes. "I am sick of this, Willow," she practically hissed. "I'm sick of having my family--at home, here--get fucked with by these bastards who hide out in heaven or hell or somewhere in the ether and just throw us like logs into some giant fire...watch us snap and burn and die, just to feed the flames. I am sick of it!"

Willow sat back, stunned. She had never seen Tara so furious, venomous.

"A bunch of monks make Dawn the Key. They make my aunt a Protector. Knowing full well that they could suffer and die; knowing we'd love them and grieve. God, it just goes on and on, Willow. Buffy and Angel love each other, and then all because of some curse they didn't even know about, sharing that love rips Angel's soul away from him and Angelus kills Miss Calendar before Buffy has to kill him. We're pawns, Willow, getting moved around on some board we aren't even allowed to see. And it stops here." She gripped her arms tightly, as if warding off some feeling that threatened to rip her apart from the inside.

Kyra watched all of this in frightened silence, gazing from one mother to the next as if willing both of them to stop talking in scary voices.

Willow wanted to babble, wanted to flood Tara with a deluge of arguments and persuasions and reassurances. The instinct that she was honing, however, made her choose her words very, very carefully. "Tara, Baby, believe it or not, I agree with you. I hate feeling like our lives are getting jerked around; like some force out there could shuffle us around and we wouldn't even know it. But...But at least we have Dawn, and Beverly. I mean, I know it sounds weird but...well, didn't we come out ahead?"

Tara just shook her head. Finally, she whispered, "Willow, it's Kyra. Our daughter."

Willow's heart cracked open at the words. When she trusted herself to speak, she said, "I know, Baby. That's why we have to find out. We can't just sit here and hope everything's OK. Tara, she didn't come to us through natural means. And we know she has some kind of power; we saw her use it."

Tara turned to her, her eyes desperate. "But maybe it was just a glitch, Will. Maybe...maybe somehow Kyra was created from the force of the spell and that's where she came from. Maybe there's nothing more to it than that."

Willow just sat quietly. She knew Tara didn't really believe the words, as desperately as she wanted to.

"Darnuth checked her out, Willow. She's never found any evidence that she's anything other than a normal, healthy baby. Something would show up, wouldn't it? If there were anything strange going on?"

"Tara, Baby, Dawn and Beverly could say the same thing." She hated this role, hated being the person trying to persuade Tara to look beyond the blissful surface and consider more ominous possibilities about their child.

Tara sat in stony silence for several moments, fear and resentment rolling off of her in waves. Willow thought she might choke on the ferocity of her partner's dread. Finally she turned to Willow and asked in a tiny voice, "What do you want to do?"

OK. Next step... "Tara, Baby, she came to us when we called on the Anadeis." Willow drew a deep breath. "I think we should invoke them again."

Tara pulled back, shaking her head anxiously. "Willow, what if they take her?"

"Tara, I think they're the ones who sent her to us. Why would they take her? And if they wanted to, couldn't they have done it already?" She reached for Tara again. "Baby, we'd be naive not to think that they might be involved somehow. We have to use our heads here, as well as our hearts."

Tara's eyes narrowed to slits. "You think I'm being irrational? I love her too much? I should analyze her a bit?"

The furrow in Kyra's brow deepened as she watched this exchange. She returned to Clifford, but kept glancing anxiously up at her mothers.

Willow felt her own anger flaring. "And what? I don't love her enough? I'm being too rational? Is that what you think?"

Tara stared at her defiantly for a half-second, then closed her eyes and released a shuddering breath. "No...God, no, that's not what I think. I just...Will, I've never been as scared of anything in my entire life as I am of losing Kyra. Sometimes I watch her sleep or I watch you feeding her, and I think my heart's just going to shatter. Willow, my life has never been so complete; I never dreamed it could be so complete. And everytime you talk about digging deeper into where she came from, I feel like I'm watching some horror movie where the person decides to check out some weird phenomenon and you just want to scream, 'Get out. Don't look at it. Don't poke at it. Just run; go home and lock your doors.' That's how I feel now. Will, we're supposed to keep the bad stuff away, not throw open the front door and invite it in."

"Tara, do you think I haven't thought about just packing her up and leaving this whole Scooby scene behind? But we can't, Tara. Things find you if they're supposed to find you."

"So you aren't afraid at all? You'd feel comfortable, right now, invoking them, hearing whatever they have to say?" Tara's voice was softly challenging.

Willow stopped cold. She had been in the position of trying to persuade Tara but now, as Tara herself posed the scenario, she had to confess: not at all. She most definitely did not want to call up the Anadeis and say, 'Hey--what's up with our daughter?'"

"No," she finally whispered. "Tara, I don't want to do this at all. I can think of about 3,672 other things I'd rather do, including vote for George Bush and have a pelvic exam on public access TV. I'm not even one bit comfortable with this."

"But you think we have to do it," Tara finished quietly.

"Yes," Willow replied, squeezing her hand. Kyra seemed to have settled down slightly during the last exchange, her tiny brow clearing just a bit. "Yes, to find out what we can. Tara, it's true: knowledge is power. If there is anything involving Kyra, I don't want us to be the only ones who don't know it."

Tara stared at Kyra as if the force of her gaze would stop time, stop all of this. Willow could see tears sparkling unshed in the cobalt eyes. Finally she turned to Willow.

"Let's do it."

********


They returned home shortly after this, calling the Magic Box to say that they weren't sure when they could make it and yes, they were fine and no, they weren't exhausted. They did, however, ask Buffy to come home to babysit.

"After us, she's the person I feel most comfortable having Kyra," Tara said. "Any force would have to go through her, and we both know how easy that isn't."

When the Slayer returned, she looked at them questioningly. "You two didn't call me home so that you could take a quote unquote nap, did you? Because I'm all about quality time, but--"

"Buffy, we're going to try to find out more about where Kyra came from," Willow cut her off. "And whether she has any connection to this prophecy."

Buffy's gaze turned sober as she looked from Willow to Tara, and then back. "Do what you need to do. Nothing will come near her," she said quietly. Willow swallowed heavily, and she and Tara retired to their own room.

They researched their own extensive archives on anything pertaining to the Anadeis. There wasn't much beyond what they already knew: they were a trio of spirits, almost infinitely old. They were assumed to be female, but since no one had ever seen them, there was no certainty to be found. It was quite possible that gender didn't apply to them, but one thing was definitely true: they could only be summoned by women. Men could be included in the protection, but they could not invoke them directly.

Without discussion, Willow and Tara had summoned them last year: Give form to that which delivers all who call upon it. Now, though, they weren't asking for protection so much as information. Finally, they pieced together a summoning chant designed to bring them into contact with the spirits, rather than being sent some protection as the spirits' proxy.

They joined hands, a small, unscented votive between them and tiny shreds of oak bark, sycamore leaves, and juniper berries forming a crescent to their western sides. They gazed at one another for a long moment, Willow trying both to center herself and reassure Tara.

"She's ours, Baby," she whispered, feeling Tara's hands tighten upon her own. They drew a deep breath as one, and then chanted together:

"Those who offered safety ere now:
Hear our question; back your vow.
You who sent protection before:
Appear before us, we implore."


Willow could feel the energy humming in the room before she ever heard a word. When she opened her eyes, she saw a pale blue light shimmering above the crescent. There were no forms discernible, but Willow felt the trio of spirits as surely as she felt her own heartbeat.

"We thought you might wish to speak to us."

The voice was deep; resounding, almost. And yet utterly feminine. Willow heard a great antiquity in its depth.

"What would you say to us?" came another voice, this one seeming both younger than the first and still ancient.

Willow glanced at Tara, their hands still clasped. Should she ask the first question, or wait for Tara? She watched her partner square her shoulders, and she held her tongue.

"We want to know if you sent Kyra to us; and if so, why." Willow marvelled at the steadiness in her beloved's voice.

"We do not call her by the name you gave her." This voice seemed the youngest of the three, though it, too, rippled with age.

"I don't care what you call her," Tara replied evenly. "She is Kyra, our daughter. All we ask is whether you have information we should have."

"Of course we do, child," came the eldest voice. "We did send her; we chose you among a thousand others."

Willow's heart slammed into her chest. "Why? Why did you send her?"

"Because she is the Guardian. She will grow into a woman who shall guard other women; she shall make the way safe for others who must come."

Tara's hands were squeezing hers so tightly Willow could feel her fingers whitening. "What do you mean, 'Guardian'?" Tara asked, her voice dangerously quiet.

"Her life's work will be to battle those who would harm the women who will come to power. There are those not yet born, their mothers only children now; those children will have children who will create a new balance of power. Certain forces will not welcome that change. They will fight that change. And the Guardian will ensure that they do not succeed. The Guardian will serve to protect these women. She will face many battles, of many kinds."

Willow pictured her daughter--tiny, perfect--asleep downstairs and thought for a moment that she might vomit. She saw agony etched equally across Tara's beloved features.

"Why?" Willow finally whispered. "Why send a child? Why not send a full-grown woman to do this battle?"

"Because she must learn, across the rolling luxury of time, of many things. She must know fear, in order to learn courage. She must know vulnerability, to become invincible. She must know weakness, to reach her greatest strength. This is the path of the Guardian." So spoke the second of the spirits.

"She's not a Guardian," Tara practically roared. "She's our daughter!"

"Whom you have solely as a function of our plan," came the youngest ancient voice. "She is no more truly yours than any child on the street."

And finally Willow, too, was shocked into rage. "Fuck. You." She spat the words. Fury and terror eclipsed any misgivings she might have had about cursing a trio of immortals.

But there was no rain of fire, just a maddeningly calm voice. "We do not dispute your love for the child. Indeed, that love shall protect her, teach her compassion and humility; temper her power."

"Well here's a thought, you three-headed freak show," Willow retorted. "If we're supposed to look out for her, why'd you let us almost get killed? Tara barely made it; I wouldn't have made it if Faith hadn't been there."

"And you suppose, do you, that Faith's appearance here is by chance?" The second voice was almost...amused.

"Can you say 'Faith'?"

"Fate."


Willow squeezed her eyes shut, rocking slightly. Of course. Hadn't she suspected something from the beginning? The connection; the obvious affection that transcended simple fondness for an endearing child?

"We acted through the vampire to send the Dark One to you," continued the second voice. "She loves the child, fiercely, though she scarcely understands it herself. She will protect the child with her life. She will forfeit that life, if necessary, so that the Guardian may reach her full power."

Willow could feel Tara trembling across from her.

"You seem distraught, my dear," came the eldest voice. "Do you not realize the good, the power, that the Guardian represents? The power to protect so many women who are so vital to creating the world you would most want your daughter to live in? She will be an instrument of such beneficence and courage."

"Do you really think that matters?" Willow asked incredulously. "Honor? Pride? You're saying our daughter is destined to be a warrior; that her life will be filled with danger and pain." She broke off, suddenly hopeful. "Is she immortal herself? These battles she's supposed to fight--is she protected from harm herself?"

Maybe I could handle that. Maybe I could handle that.

"I am sorry, my child, but that we cannot guarantee." The eldest voice seemed truly regretful. "It is not within our power to create an immortal. Believe me, though, we share the same hope: that the Guardian grows to adulthood safely, and happily."

"Stop calling her that!" Tara shouted. "Her name is Kyra!"

"As you wish," came the imperturbable voice. "We have endowed Kyra with strength and knowledge beyond that of the average human. She shall not fight unprepared."

"She won't fight at all," Tara hissed. "You think you can shove her into this idiotic battle of yours and not even guarantee her safety?"

"You presume to speak so?" came the youngest voice. "When you yourselves fight and risk?"

"Because we choose to," Willow replied angrily.

"As if your meeting with the Slayer was by accident." The second voice was utterly calm.

Willow reeled at the thought. Had there been a destiny? Of any sort?

Perhaps. But she had chosen, in a hundred conscious moments and possibly a million more unconscious ones, to fight; to stay and work and risk...everything.

"No," she said flatly. "We may have been thrown together, but you'll never convince me we had no choice in the matter."

"My child, why do you argue? Can you not see the power she already possesses? Imagine the good that she will bring. Would you rob her of that honor?"

"You wanna go all womyn power, let's see you get off your ass and do it yourselves. Lazy hags," she added.

Two voices rose in sharp protest, and then Willow had a dim but abrupt sense of having just been spared an ugly death as the eldest voice merely chuckled. "We chose you well, Willow Rosenberg and Tara Maclay. None will dare threaten this child without your fury making them regret the attempt. No, we cannot fight as humans do. Heavens, child...With all the forces conspiring for darkness, are you not glad for those of us who conspire for good?"

"See, it's that whole 'conspire' thing that gets me," Willow said bitterly.

"You seem to suppose that the Guard--that Kyra would refuse this role," the second immortal commented. "Do you think that your friend wishes she were not the Chosen One, the one who fights such battles?"

"I don't know," Willow answered honestly. "But I think she would've liked the choice."

"We would all like many things," came the youngest of the ancient voices. "But that is rarely our luxury. We have had to wait for such a time as we could call the Guardian into being; we had to wait for the prophecy and the coming time of the new powers."

Willow's head snapped up at the word. "Prophecy? You're talking about...?"

"But of course," came the second voice. "There is darkness emerging now from what was light. Upon the completion of its task, the dark force shall give full rise to the new light."

"What do you mean, 'full rise'?" Tara demanded, her eyes glittering with an anger Willow had never seen before.

"The Guardian--"

"Kyra!" Willow shouted.

"Kyra, then...Kyra now has but a fraction of the power she will have when she is fully realized as the Guardian. We sent her to you, upon your calling, because we recognized that you would be her best protectors, her best teachers. But she could not claim full power, regardless of her age, until the evil that now walks among you has claimed his tenth victim."

Willow looked across at Tara. We think as one, my love.

"So if this malevolent force doesn't take its tenth victim...what happens to Kyra?"

She wondered if she felt a slight ripple in the energy about them.

"Such a thing cannot happen," the youngest voice said, her voice adamant. "This force needs only three more good souls, though it cannot take any that it has already afflicted and lost."

"But if it did?" Tara persisted.

The eldest voice echoed evenly about them. "Then Kyra would become as any other child. But this cannot happen, my dear. The prophecy has clearly foretold--"

"How 'bout you shove that prophecy right up your incorporeal asses?" Willow said, a tiny, determined smile beginning to make its way across her face. "I think we're done here."

And again, her mind linked with Tara's: Be ye banished. Linked hands descended onto the votive, an angry hiss filling the room as the flame died, protesting. She felt the spirits rip away from them.

She locked eyes with Tara.

"We have work to do."

********


To Be Continued
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby meretricious » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:01 pm

dibs, if my brower's faster than car's...
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby GayNow » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:04 pm

LOL Maru...your browser isn't faster...I'm just savoring the moment. :lmao
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby Ressick » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:17 pm

Oh YES! Updatey goodness! :bounce And wow. I love the fiery protectoresses that W & T become for Kyra. Especially love the "Fuck you" to the ancient immortal powers. Yay for Faith/Fate! Such suspense is gonna give me a heart attack before you finish this fic.

It's far too late for me to be up, so that explains my less than coherent but incredibly supportive feedback.
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Re: As Time Goes By

Postby The Rose24 » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:29 pm

WOW! This is a tense update. There isn't much more I can say.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
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