Gilmore Girls

[FineyMcFine]

This week's ep was pretty sad and kinda heartwrenching. I'm wondering if Logan is going to dump Rory now that he's been given the ultimatum from his dad, and Rory seems a little, what's the word, bemused by Logan's behavior.

It was good to see Lorelai relenting a little, at least in her heart, with the ending scene watching her movie alone. And when she was semi-yelling at Rory at the baptism about her cell phone number, I think what she really meant to be saying was "I'm hurt that you didn't tell me your new phone number and I miss you."

I loved the jabber between Sookie and Luke in the diner about his butt. And I wanted to SMITE the guys in Lane's band for stealing the cash from her underwear drawer. I hope they get their recording equipment working soon. Lane, by the way, just gets hotter and hotter.

It looks like the shit hits the fan next week!

Spoiler:

Looks like the truth will come out about Mr. Huntsberger and what he said to Rory, and Emily and Richard will know, and Lorelai will be vindicated. Also looks like Rory has some definite upset about it. Who was that she was talking to in the preview, Paris, Lorelai, or her grandparents?

[Garner]

I liked this week's episode, though it wasn't overly spectacular, definitely not an ASP one, or DP for that matter, and vaguely disappointing in some way. Again there seems to be a lot transition or interim material in the episode. Like they are waiting for things to develop later and just pushing the story along. I did like the opening bit, that was pretty amusing, and Michele was definitely funny this ep, it was good to see him continuing to have a role. The whole cousins stuff was amusing and it was good to hear Roon referred to again. I also wanted to smack the rest of the band for spending 9 grand without any research or shopping around. On the other hand Lane could have just returned it all. And I did like the baptism part with "why aren't you renouncing satan?" and then Sookie having to go get the kids was pretty amusing, too. I guess the main point of the ep was to start the Rory/Lorelai reconciliation process.

On the issue of Logan, it seems to me that Rory is turning into the exact sort of woman/girl that he wouldn't be interested in. She's doing DAR stuff, hosting society parties, and starting to be moulded more and more by Emily. I can definitely see Logan looking at Rory one morning and going, "You've turned into the vapid sort of girl I try to avoid. What happened to the smart, quirky unique girl I first met?" That may be giving Logan too much credit, but I can see that happening and being Rory's wake up call to change, or at least think about where she's at.

I also agree that next week looks like an important ep with a lot coming to a head. Which is good as I would like to see some more confrontation. Maybe the conflict is missing too much, everyone is off doing their own thing and not bouncing off each other so much.

Garner

[seurat]

'Well, I'm sorry to have to say I didn't like this ep much which is why I haven't been in a rush to post about it. There were a few things I liked, the Rory/Lane scene was good and I loved how it ended. There were a few good lines here and there, loved the Dandy Warhols/Brian Jonestown Massacre comparison since I recenty watched Dig again that really made me laugh. And we have a new GG word, snarcastic.and man, does Michel ever represent that. And I liked Lane's response to the stupidity of her bandmates in falling for that saleman's lines. She fumes a bit and then immerses herself in the manual to try and get the best possible result out of the mess.

However...I disliked Logan and his gang intensely in this ep, his attitude at the party reminded me of Jess, not a happy comparison for me. And the whole milkmaid incident was just cruel and sad. Rory's behavior at the party was also a little worrying, I'll say more about that in a moment. My main problem with this ep was the latter part of the baptism scene (the first part of it was ok, the talk with the priest etc). I was just appalled at Lorelai's behavior and her inabilty to maintain some focus on where she was and what was at stake for Sookie and her family at that moment. Her apology to Sookie later doesn't make up for that thoughtless hijacking of the ceremony. I disliked it so much in fact that I've decided to pretend it never happened. What baptism scene? The only problem with that tactic is that I'm very much afraid that they are trying to show the similarities in Emily, Lorelai and Rory's behavior. Which means we're likely to see more of this bad treatment of the help by Rory and who knows what kind of completely out-of-character outrage from Lorelai. I can't wait for this rift storyline to end.

[urnofosiris]

You took the words out of my mouth Seurat, only you managed to make them sound more eloquent than I could. Of course, that won´t stop me from posting....
I think what Lorelai did at the baptism was in bad form and disrespectful to Sookie and her children. She could not pospone that rant for 5 minutes? Last week I also had a hard time believing that she would stop her car and with the sole purpose to start a fight with Rory in public while she was doing community service. I understand she is hurt and upset, but there is a time and place to express it and these were not the times and places.

Logan annoyed me this episode with his rudeness and whining. If he does not want to follow in daddy´s footsteps, which I quite understand, he can say so. He is an adult. His father cannot force him to do anything he does not want to do. Of course that will probably mean he won´t be able to fly his girlfriend to NY for a weekend in a private helicopter. Instead he´d have to work for his own money and study, support himself, lead his own life. It could work, it has been known to happen.

His friends are just blergh. I went to school with people exactly like that, they play their parts really well. I do not really know where to begin with that ´iconic superhero Dutch milkmaid who cannot speak a word of English and naturally followed the snotty ugly rich guy all the way to the US like an airheaded sex toy´ thing.
I believe there is actually one milkmaid left here, I saw her in the paper a few weeks ago, she is 72 and she looked nothing like that girl and I bet she speaks better English than those pampered rich boys with that frog in their throats. I really do not mind making fun of (Dutch) stereotypes, but at least make an effort to be clever about it and not just be disrespectful and cruel to this woman.
It reminded me of two weeks ago when Emily fired the maid for speaking Spanish with Rory. I found these things rather offensive, more so because they went totally unchallenged and ´unpunished´ and it feels to me that they were solely done to set up a laugh, like the glare Rory got from the new Rumanian maid and Rory getting to say "you forgot your milkmaid".

Other than that I did enjoy most of the episode, heh, it had some very funny moments. Zach and Kirk cracked me up and the scene with Lane was very nice, she is just great. I cannot recall ever being annoyed with her at all. I do not really mind the fighting, like Lane said, it balances things out a bit, but I also do not want it to become too negative and lead to scenes like at the baptism. Some angst here and there is fine, but the show works pretty well for me when it is somewhat more positive.

[Garner]

Actually, I think DrG might have hit on the problem right now. Both Lorelai and Rory are avoiding the angst and hurt they are feeling. Both are throwing themselves into other things or trying their best to ignore how much they miss the other. This seems wrong to me somehow. I expect them to be more volatile, more emotional. They certainly have been when they thought Luke or Logan were gone, why not now? I think the emotional commitment level of each should be higher, they should maybe be even a bit more crazy than normal. That might give the eps a bit more feel to them. There has been some angst and anger, but not enough. Where's the passion? This seems too much like a male response, I will repress everything and internalize and ignore it (excuse the cliche, but that is what it seems like).

And I totally agree that Logan's buds seemed really uncouth and like the privileged rich snots they are in this one. More so than normal. I always thought they were there as a sort of contrast to Logan, to show that he had more depth than they did, despite his hanging around with them. Still, at some point you have to look at who you are friends with and wonder what that says about you. If we're lucky we'll see some growth out of Logan. His whining didn't bother me as much, yet. Yet. Again, there are things he can do, but I also know the pressure of those types of families and the situations and it is very hard to get out of that life and go against the expectations. Gilmore Girls has a chance to do some really interesting character development here for both Rory and Logan, I just hope they take it.

Garner

[FineyMcFine]

Maybe Rory and Lorelai are feeling emotionally handicapped right now. They had meltdowns when they thought Luke and Logan were gone (and same thing with Jess, for that matter), but that's when they had the other one for support. Perhaps being estranged from their main confidants - each other - is making it difficult to navigate these waters.

Rory gets upset, she talks to Lorelai about it. But what happens when she's upset WITH Lorelai? Maybe she just retreats into herself. Who can she talk to? Not her grandparents, not Logan, not really Paris either. Lane, maybe, but Lane's been gone and Rory's been partying it up with Logan.

I would expect Lorelai to talk about it with Luke, but either we're not seeing all of that or it's just too raw and close (and perhaps she feels disloyal?) to talk to him or anyone about it. She does definitely seem to be internalizing things.

[seurat]

The latest GG ep did give me some hope that the rift between Rory and Lorelai is at last going to be resolved soon. I'm not sure how to rate this ep overall, it didn't make me laugh as much as last week but it didn't annoy me that much either . I did like Emily's great verbal takedown of Mrs. H, and Paris had a great entrance to this episode, a classic Paris moment. But the Kirk dance did nothing for me at all, and I really didn't like the way Sookie and Jackson yelled at their infant son to turn the volume down. (Would he even know how to do that yet? Certainly seemed clueless to me.)The Luke/Lorelai stuff was believable and I liked Richard's long take at the end as he realized what Rory is becoming. Hopefully next week we'll start to see Rory inch back towards Yale.

[Garner]

I liked this episode quite a bit, actually. I thought there were more funny bits than the last two or three weeks combined. Things were happening and moving along. The intro with the fire was amusing, I loved the digs at the forensic show glut we currently have, would that be the show where they poke the organs and find out how they did the crime, indeed! I also found Paris embracing Marxism a hoot and just like her to jump into whatever misguided thing in extremes. It will be amusing to see if that carries through. I also liked Rory getting mad and admitting she hates Momma Huntzberger. Luke and Lorelai were good together and the whole ep just seemed much better paced.

I will agree that the yelling at the kid seemed very stupid, maybe some kind of new age parenting crap. And the Miss Patties receital thing was the lowest point of the ep. I also hate when people come into the audience, I agree with Lorelai there. Though, her and Sookie making comments throughout, while in character and needed for the show, is the kind of thing that makes me want to shoot people in public and why going to movies etc. is less fun now. Too many people feel that they have the right to just blab away instead of shutting the hell up! Sorry for that rant, but it is very annoying. And Kirk's thing was just strange. I did like Lorelai saying come see Kirk doing something weird and disturbing, that was amusing.

I also loved Richard's interaction with Mitchum and how you could see him make a fist and really control himself not to slug the man. That was very cool, and yes, Emily taking down Ms. Huntzberger was awesome! You do not want Emily against you, she is way too experienced at these sort of things. And Richard's long look at the end was nice. I also liked that Rory was able to step in and make a success of something that would have been a dull failure otherwise. She put her stamp on it, and succeeded marvelously. It was nice to see that.

Since this was a DP episode, I expected it to be good and was not disappointed. Next week's looks equally interesting already.

Garner

[urnofosiris]

I enjoyed this episode, not as many laughs out loud as last week, but like Seurat, it did not annoy me as much either, except for Sookie and Jackson yelling at their son. I know they can be exceedingly silly, but I did not find anything humorous in this. Ah well, the Luke/Lorelai stuff was good, I liked Richard this episode and as much as I continue to dislike Emily, I loved the way she put that Hamburger (good one Lorelai ) woman in her place. Paris was great, I love the 40´s hairdo on her, princess Leia would be jealous.

[seurat]

Last night's GG was another just ok one, it didn't have any major developments in the Rory/Lorelai rift story which is what I was waiting to see. It did end with Richard at Lorelai's door wanting to talk about Rory so next week we should see some more on that. I liked that he returned her dollhouse by the way, he does occasionally remind us that he is her Dad and not just some old guy she fights with all the time. No Paris in this ep, and almost no Lane which is never good, but Kirk was ok and the dialogue altho not written by either ASP or DP was consistently good (but not great of course.) I thought the Rory/Logan stuff was better this time and I kind of liked the way he responded to her declaration. I can easily imagine how that Richard/Logan meeting could have ended up with them having two completely different ideas of what was being discussed. And the renaming of the streets sideplot was ok, Sores and Boils avenue indeed. And of course when Taylor pats you on the head, the immediate response must be to not do what he wants. Or maybe just slug him, if it was me.

Speaking of Taylor - and believe me, I'd rather not - he wasn't as grating as usual this week, but there was an awful lot of him wasn't there? Now I understand that the writers think he makes an effective foil for Luke or Lorelai, and they for some reason think the character is still funny, but I still think he is the weakest part of the show. (Okay, TJ gets a dishonorable mention.) I still wish they had left Jackson in charge of the town affairs and used Taylor more sparingly. They never did explain how he got his job back, did they? Jackson was directing again so no doubt he was already busy, but I would have liked to see them explain his absence from the town meeting. Some sort of midnight coup perhaps? (Like Taylor would ever be up that late.)

[urnofosiris]

Maybe Taylor was not as grating as usual, but he still annoyed the hell out of me and indeed they never did explain how he got to be the town pest again. It´s almost as if the writers forgot all about that episode in which Jackson was elected. I really do not understand why this windbag gets so much screentime at the expense of Paris and Lane. I did not dislike this episode like I did the second episode, but it also did not interest me much either. So far I am not really impressed with this season, some precious scenes aside (mostly Lane´s and Paris´), but it is early days yet and I look forward to the next episode as much as ever.

[Garner]

My problem with the episode and the season itself so far is that of pacing. The pacing has been terrible. We are wasting way too much time on more or less mundane matters, with characters making small talk or chit chat, and not of the witty or engaging variety either. This is especially a problem with Emily and Richard or even Rory in their house. A good example was Logan 's scenes with Emily and Richard. Really nothing was accomplished with thiese and they were drawn and a bit tedious. Overall, the scenes aren't bad, they just aren't exceptionally striking. The show has had some good Luke and Lorelai stuff, the Paris and Lane bits have been good, and last week showed us Gilmore Girls at its best with a fair amount of conflict, heart, and some nice snide comments. Since it was a DP ep, that was no big surprise. But this week felt like another filler ep. Come on, the main preview point of Richard appearing on Lorelai's doorstep to talk about Rory was the closing scene! That's wrong. It should have been the starting point, or maybe the middle point at most. Look at the way Supernatural ran last night, the start was one of those - you see the end and then start two weeks ago to get there sort of things, yet they got there halfway through the episode and went beyond that. It kept on moving and every scene contributed something worthwhile. It's like whoever is writing Gilmore Girls now ipadding and filling. If ASP is not as involved this season than that is a major mistake, her hand needs to be more actively involved. If it is, well, they need to get to the point and get on with things.

As for Taylor, I generally don't hate him, he is a buffon and a windbag all right and I would like less of him and more Paris and Lane, but generally he is well used. This ep though he seemed dumber than normal. It seemed like the Boils and Sores bit was way too stretched out and even Taylor should be able to see the negative impact of that on business and tourism. That part seemed just too contrived to even seem reasonable for Taylor. I do agree the Logan and Rory parts were better this time, but to be honest I would like to see a bit more of Logan and Rory. They need some more interaction. Next week's looks promising. I just hope we pick up the pace and get an ASP ep already, we need it.

Garner

[FineyMcFine]

I wonder when and how Rory will get her confidence back. I'm hoping it's soon. Enough already with the rift; I want her to go back to Yale, move in with Paris, and get on with it. And hopefully dump Logan for someone who is more right for her.

[urnofosiris]

I enjoyed this episode a lot. Too little Paris and Lane as always and I wish Paris would break up with that hobbit already, but it was nice to see them both, even if briefly. I found the scene with the minister hilarious and Rory´s response great. Emily and Richard really live in a fantasy world sometimes. As if their ships had not sailed to Fiji before they met each other, please. Luke was an all round great guy again this episode and I loved his reaction to the drink. Most importantly, finally Lorelai and Rory are making some progress.

[seurat]

Yeah, you pretty much summed it up for me too G. i didn't think this was one of ASP's best scripts but she does tend to leave herself with the tough ones, with the more important scenes and less room for banter. I found Richard's attitude toward's Rory having given away her "gift" particularly annoying. It will take me a long time to forgive him for that line about how he paid for the roof over her head that she was using to sleep with Logan. Aaargh. And Emily's no better, but then we knew what she was all about. The scene where she finds out what Richard really thinks of the way she spends her time was well done though.

I can't believe Sookie wasn't invited to the party. I can't believe that Lorelai and Rory stood there talking to each other and never even touched, let alone hugged. And I was sad that Lorelai left the party and couldn't even bring herself to sing Happy Birthday. But the Luke/rRory scene was sweet, and Luke was good throughout the ep. And I did like what Lorelai said to Richard about Rory, it gives me some hope that this will turn out ok. Oh and the highlight of the ep has to be Rory's scene with the minister. Very funny set-up and Alexis handled it quite well.

[FineyMcFine]

Heh, the scene with the minister was funny - although Rory could have told him to eff off and it was none of his business, rather than telling him that ship has already sailed. At least she didn't go into details about how she first did it with a married man, not Logan, and it ended up being a short-term thing in a dance studio. ANYWAY...

When Emily shows her true colors, it's not pretty. Her statement about "We haven't failed till she comes home pregnant" really summed it up. Good for Lorelai for not engaging and for just leaving the room - it's so easy to get sucked back into old fights again and again.

I'm psyched for the next episode - when Jess comes back and tells it like it is to Rory, she's going to have some serious thinking to do. It would be hilarious if he were wearing this shirt while telling her off. Anyway, I can't wait till she and Lorelai reconcile.

[urnofosiris]

Oh lordielord, that T-shirt cracked me up. Richard´s behavior was rather obnoxious. It seems, like Lorelai already said somewhere along the line I think, that both he and Emily have viewed and treated Rory as a second chance at the perfect daughter. They still see Lorelai as a failure, to say that in front of her was just meanspirited, but then again, this was not news to her. It is sad really, despite their uptight medieval elitist snobbistic attitude Lorelai did not turn out to be a spoiled pampered brat, she turned into a strong beautiful smart independant woman who raised all but a saint of a daughter (despite her giving away her "greatest gift"). I think Richard realized that Lorelai is a better parent than they ever were. He said something like it all went wrong when they did not listen to Lorelai. Of course it seems in his eyes what went wrong is that Rory did not turn out to be the virgin Mary. He did not seem too concerned when she dropped out of college, stole a boat and dated the heir to someone´s fortune, as long as she was not sleeping with him. Man, that scene with the minister still cracks me up. So that is their way of having "the talk". I bet Lorelai got the same honors, only her ship had sailed way beyond Fiji.

[Garner]

Let's see. I agree, not enough Paris or Lane. I liked Zach's few lines in this one too, his interaction with Logan was fun. I also loved Emily's summation that they don't fail unless she's pregnant and Lorelai just leaving, it shows they still don't understand each other. And Richard, his treatment of Rory was terrible, but I also like that he admits he was wrong and that he is seeing that where Rory is heading is wrong for her. She does have a lot of potential and in this day and age the Emily sort of life style is not as acceptable as it once was and certainly not for someone with Rory's talent. So I am split on Richard in this ep. He did have a few insightful moments. And the minister bit was hilarious. Especially Logan's take on it afterwards..."Why, why would you do that?" And I also agree that for an ASP script this was not her best, but far above the previous stuff save DP's which was also good. You can tell these two are the heart and soul of this show writing wise.

No one has mentioned what I consider the highlight of the episode. The interaction between Rory and Lorelai. First her shouting at Lorelai through Luke on the phone, and then there at the party. I lvoed the whole "I got a dog," and the instant "What?!" This is what makes this show so good. The banter between Lorelai and Rory. That quick back and forth that we are so desperately missing right now. It was like a vision back to the better days of the show. Now I am not hating the show now, but we need Rory and Lorelai talking to each other again and soon already. We've had enough of the separation. Let's get on with it already. Let these two share more screen time together and do what makes the show great!

I can't believe I am in the "I can't wait to see when Jess comes back!" camp, but god save me I am. I don't like Jess that much but he is needed to shake things up and really shed some light on Rory and where she is at. I hope he and Logan get a fair amount of screen time as I tend to think we aren't seeing enough of Logan, especially not with Paris or Lane or others his and Rory's age besides his dumb friends. Logan was more interesting last season so far.

Garner

[Garner]

There's been a new episode and no one has said anything about it? Must be a busy time of year! I actually liked Jess in this one and it was good to see his return shake things up. I thought it really hit Rory that Jess had done something, written a book, and here she was just spinning in society land. It certainly didn't help that Logan was being the biggest ass he has ever been so far. One of the things I liked about Logan last season was that he seemed smarter and more interesting than what we are seeing now. He did quirky things, often on the fringe of acceptable, but they had humor and intelligent thought behind them. He had the ability to fit in with the society crowd and yet still make fun of them at the same time. Right now he is just being somewhat selfindulgent, and acting like a dumb frat boy. He should be able to rise above just going around and getting falling down drunk and that's it. So should Colin and Finn, though maybe not without Logan's lead. I am actually sort of disappointed in how they've portrayed Logan so far this year. He doesn't seem as interesting or like Rory would have fallen for him if he had been like this. Their argument was good though as it brought some stuff out and both had some good points. Logan is trapped by his family and expectations and sees himself with a life all mapped out and no way to get out of it. Rory sees the opportunities he has and that if he hates that life he should fight against it. He could just deny the family and fortune and try and make his own way, though that option is very very foreign to the way he was raised.

And Rory is not all innocent in all this either. She wilts under a little harsh criticism from Logan's Dad (and having seen her go after the Life and Death Brigade story, I think he's totally full of it and we've seen evidence of that), when her mom doesn't support her sudden decision she flees to her grandparents, when that starts to get stiltifying she then runs back to her mom and the freedom she represents. Talk about a bit spoiled and using the situation for her own gain. Certainly this is not Rory's finest hour either. I did like the way Emily let slip how she thinks of Rory as her daughter and chance 2 to make her into what she wanted for Lorelai, but that was nothing new. Well done, but no surprise.

What I would like to see is Rory back in Yale, Logan come to the realization that he was an ass, apoligize and fight back or threaten to walk from the family, essentially take a page from Lorelai, and for a lot more Rory and Lorelai interaction. And what could Luke possibly have as a secret in his past that doesn't come out of nowhere?

Not a bad ep, things got moved along and anytime Jess seems reasonable and sort of cool that's amazing. I just hope the next few rise the characters a up a bit. And we get more Paris and Lane!

Garner

[urnofosiris]

Logan was acting just like Jess was several seasons ago, whining about a crappy parent and being an utter obnoxious snot. Jess at least has the excuse that he was still in the last stages of puberty when he was being an asshole. He grew up, something which Logan still has to do apparently. So I did not mind Jess this episode, he acted like a decent guy and he served his purpose by waking up Rory. I wonder how thick that plate is that Emily has got in front of her face. What will it take for that woman to ever learn her lesson.
The evil soccer girls cracked me up, other than that, I did not get all that many laughs out of this episode, but that´s ok, at least the Rory saga moved forward some more. She needs to go back to Yale, I need more Paris.

[seurat]

I enjoyed this ep, one of DP's efforts so I'm not surprised. I did feel a little mainipulated by a couple of the things they are doing though. The Jess appearance - well, yeah, they made him likeable (supposedly because that was a condition the actor insisted on) and he talked some sense into Rory. A very good thing, no doubt. But having Jess do it made it obvious to me that it was a needed plot device and not a natural outgrowth of what his character would do. The are also deliberately making Logan a total loss, which doesn'r ring true to me either. Obviously they are going to break Rory and Logan up, the only question is if they plan to bring them together again. If this is the way they are planning on writing his character from now on I won't miss him, but it is a waste of what was a decent boyfriend for Rory. I'm sad to see how far the other brigade boys have sunk too.

Which sounds like I'm complaining, and I'm really not, it's just that I can see how all of this was structured, it just didn't flow naturally enough to be a great ep. There were terrific scenes. Loved the soccer girls, that was hysterical. Loved Luke going overboard on the uniforms and caps, loved them driving away afterwards as quickly as possible and Luke's scene with them back in the diner. I laughed at the cylon reference that Rory used about Emily, and it was good to see Emily being put in her place since I still have no sympathy for her at all. Yes we could use more Paris, but then how many ep's have there been when we couldn't have used more Paris? Next week should be a very good ep, so enjoy it because ASP has more drama planned for us soon. Sigh.

[FineyMcFine]

I suppose they're making Logan unlikeable because it's boring when everyone is happy. I dunno, I don't tihnk he's right for Rory in the long run. Remember what a jerk he was to Marty when they first met? I think the viewers responded well to Logan though so that's why they made him more likeable. His inability to stand up to his father and his constant drinking is ticking me off. (Rory is ticking me off too but hopefully she'll come around soon.)

It was nice to see Jess being nice and telling it like it is. Glad that Rory crashed at Lane's house. One thought - if Rory burns bridges with her grandparents, she might have to pay her own way at Yale. That might be good for her. Anyway, I'm still enjoying the series. I agree we need more Paris and Lane.

[seurat]

Ok, what's the verdict? Did GG jump the shark by doing the old "bring in a kid from wherever" storyline (as we joked about earlier in this thread, little did we know...), or can ASP pull this off? And is she going to break up Luke and Lorelai?

It was great to see the rift storyline end anyway, and we did get a nice scene of our girls together again. On the whole it was a well-written show too, but that April storyline - ouch. I'm giving ASP the benefit of the doubt, she's earned it, but this looks pretty desperate to me.

[FineyMcFine]

In Mike Ausiello's column last week at http://www.tvguide.com (it's called "Ask Ausiello") he got a lot of questions about "What's this horrible idea about Luke having a daughter?" So he did an interview with ASP and she said "Trust us." There was some other stuff there, but I was reassured - her statement seemed to say that she knew that kind of storyline was hokey but it seems that something else is afoot here.

I thought Luke totally overreacted to the Christopher thing, but on the other hand Christopher was more than rude to him last season at the Gilmore's wedding recommitment ceremony.

I think I'll just never be satisfied, but it seemed to me that Rory's regaining her confidence, getting a job, moving out of her grandparents, going back to Yale, and hopefully telling Logan off were all so fast. And her call to Lorelai and everything, I dunno. It just seemed anticlimactic. Although I'm very happy she's home.

[Garner]

I had mixed feelings about this episode. The intro bit was not very funny, and those tend to set the tone of the whole night for me. I did like Jackson being oblivious to what was going on, and Zach was amusing and annoying at Lane's. We had some good drama though. I thought Luke seemed to overreact to the Christopher phone call as well, but Lorelai jumping and shutting off the machine very guiltily when he came into the room made some of that understandable. I did like that they made up pretty quickly after the fight and that we see where Luke is coming from there.

I actually felt sympathy for Emily again, they do a good job of showing that she is human and has feelings and can be hurt, no matter how unreasonable and controlling she was being. That was a nice scene. I hope she reflects a bit on what happened.

The return of Rory to the house was a bit anticlimatic, though it was nice to see. I do like her returning to her more assured roots and definitely to Yale. I hope that Logan either returns to his character of last year, or becomes more mature, or that Rory does dump him. I liked Logan from last year, but this season he has been more of a tool, which is too bad. I would hate to see Rory stuck with Marty who I don't like.

The kid...well, it was out of left field. Luke's reaction was interesting, but like most here, I hope that goes away or is not the big issue it could be. I have some faith they can pull this off, we'll see. I don't think they will break Luke and Lorelai up, but some friction is due again, between this and Christopher, we will probably get it.

One observation about the show's pacing I have right now is that too often the BIG revelation is in the last 3-5 minutes and comes as no big surprise. We need more things of impact about half way through the ep and then dealing with it for the latter half. Supernatural is really good about doing this and is well paced. The structure of GG this season seems a bit off. There have been either too revealing previews, or the penultimate scene is at the end of the episode and seems like no big surprise and the impact is lost.

Anyway, I liked the ep for the most part, but thought the humor was lower than normal for ASP. I did like Colin and Finn for a change when they interacted with Richard.

Garner

[urnofosiris]

There have been a few utterly unamusing episodes this season yet none of them managed to make me not want to watch this show. I really look forward to every new episode as much as ever. I enjoyed this week´s episode except for Zach´s unrealistic childish jealous asshole routine on stage. That was far fetched even for the insane people in this town. I am also having a little problem believing that Luke would be so hesitant to tell Lorelai. A child of his would in no way come between him and Lorelai. It feels like they are trying to level the field by letting Luke keep a secret from her like she tried to keep her contact with Christopher secret in the past. Anyway, it was a nice good natured episode all around. Michel´s reaction to Rory and their reaction to his was classic.

[seurat]

What saved the scenes with Zach for me was the obvious tribute to the film Dig, right down to having Joel Gion the tambourine player from Brian Jonestown Massacre on stage with them. It was still not a fun scene to watch, but at least I understood what they were going for there. I also loved Michel's reaction, and Sookie's too. What was with that hug that orry gave Luke though? That was just about the most akward hug I've ever seen.

It was a good enjoyabe ep for me too, loved the Lane/Rory jinx spell too. I'm still concerned about the outcome of the April storyline, but we'll give it some time and see what ASP makes out of it. No more new ep's for about a month though, how will we get by?

[Garner]

I have to admit that for an ASP episode, the last new one from November was a bit lackluster. Not bad, but not as funny as I would have hoped for. To an extent it seems like the little interactions and amusing stuff is not there this whole season. I did like the bit with the sugar on Rory's toes and her introduction to Luke. The whole jinx back thing seemed a little forced but I've never known anyone who did anything remotely like that, it just seemed odd and out of left field. I would have expected Rory and Lane to have done that sometime earlier in the series, this seems too late for such a strange habit.

The band stuff was both weird and sort of what I would expect. My guess would be Zach has been trying to write a Lane song, hasn't felt any were worthy, and so has the excuse of name songs are hot and keeps trying until he has the perfect one for Lane. Brian jumps in with something and that sort of undercuts his whole quest for the perfect Lane song. Now that is all just speculation, he could just have a block or something, but I hope there is more to it. The jealous reaction seems extreme, and wasn't much fun to watch, but I can see it happening. Not having watched Dig, all that was lost on me. I do have to say that Zach better really pull a good explanation or something out or I'll lose all sympathy for him.

And on the boyfriend subject, I hope Logan and Rory aren't just done now. That would be a pretty lame resolution. again my guess is that Logan got pressured and just spit out whatever would get his parents off his case as quickly as possible. I do like that Honor still called Rory. After the way Logan acted last he also has some big living up to do. Maybe that is part of the theme this year, boyfriends acting stupid. At least Luke is only partially falling into that with the kid, but at least he has the whole huge sudden shock defense on his side.

It was good to see Lorelai and Rory on screen at the same time, talking with each other again. That is something the show really needed. I also liked Lorelai and Emily's scene as well. Emily and Richard work much better in shorter bits like this. Again we see a bit more of Emily's side and feel some sympathy for her despite the fact that she got herself into this position in the first place. That was well done.

Well, I look forward to new eps and hope they are better and more up to the previous seasons in humor. And more Paris.

Garner

[HalfCamel]

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[FineyMcFine]

Lots of Paris in this week's episode! I'm so glad that Rory avoided Logan, although it does not bode well that his telling her he loved her upset her so much. I really hope they don't get back together. REALLY.