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Re: Terra Firma Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:34 am

Moominmama: Hmmm. Willow in leather. Willow kicking ass. Tough Willow. You're right...Willow has been grieving, and at this point, I think Willow is probably afraid of that part of herself as much as she may be compelled by it. Itchy skin, etc. But we'll see. We will see. And thank you for reading!

Tulipp
 


Re: Terra Firma Feedback

Postby Murasaki S » Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:53 am

Thanks you so much for writing this.

Giles sharing his dark magic experiences with Willow and letting her know that life and redemption are possible

is exactly what Willow needs. Your story is giving me hope that the show's writers can maybe fix the mess they created.

*This* is what we need.



Murasaki S
 


Re: Terra Firma Feedback

Postby Mike of the Nancy Tribe » Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:18 am

Tulipp, if I had more time, I'd say a lot more than that I'm still loving this fic. RL is getting in the way of lots of things for me at the moment, but I have to say that Chapter 9 was great. I could totally believe that of Giles' past, and I continue to be thrilled by your style and your invention. Can't wait for more, though I may have to read it much later!



--Mike.



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Always.........

Mike of the Nancy Tribe
 


Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:17 am

Just got back from a free Patty Griffin outdoor concert. I really love her.

And before I get to Chapter 10: Mike, good to see you. I'm glad Giles' past worked; I'm aware I took what some might consider to be liberties, but not me. Thanks for saying "invention," too; that's nice. Hope RL treats you well in the coming weeks; I'll be patient about seeing what you think of chaps 10-18.

Murasaki, although this next chapter puts a little more angst into the mix instead of lessening it, I really want to do right thing by Willow. And I hope I will. I don't know if the show's writers can ever fix what they did, but on Pens, we can, and that's what's kept me going lately. Thank you so much.

Warning: Angst and Cliffhanger. I am putting a little more angst into the picture, but I promise, it will be short lived.

Title: Terra Firma Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Author: Tulipp. Email: tulipp30@yahoo.com
Feedback: Yes, please. Distribution: Please let me know.
Spoilers: Everything.
Rating: PG-13 in this part.
Pairing: W/T.
Summary: Tara’s back, and Willow might use magic again. Everything’s fine. Isn’t it?
Disclaimer: All characters and various plot events that set up this story were created to Joss Whedon, Mutant Enemy, etc, but they belong to the fans. No money changing hands here.
Acknowledgments: Thanks to Ruby for always-insightful beta-reading. She always knows when Tara needs more. And to J. who helps me chisel away at my plot.


Terra Firma
Chapter 10: One Step Forward


The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions
in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something
sooner or later has reason to conceal it.
--Jean-Jacques Rousseau


When Dawn and Buffy returned to the Magic Box, having turned up little more than an easily-slain Ssoj demon and a gathering cloud of rumors about the Poet, they found Xander and Tara tense at the research table, silently flipping through a massive pile of books. Anya leaned against the counter, her arms crossed over her chest. She looked up when the bell over the door rang.

“Hey, we brought pizza,” Dawn announced, sliding the boxes onto the counter.

“Yeah, and we washed our hands first,” Buffy added lightly. “No monster slime toppings this time.”

“I still don’t see what the big deal was,” Anya said crisply, moving to open the top box. “That was a perfectly good pizza that I paid for with hard-earned money. Anyway, it tasted sort of like chicken. You know, if you closed your eyes and ate really quickly.”

Dawn wrinkled her nose. “Eeuw,” she said. “I don’t want to know, right?”

“No,” Buffy said firmly. Dawn saw her sister glance at the closed door of the training room, and then at Tara and Xander, who had hardly looked up from the table when they had come in. They were talking now, and Dawn eased a little closer to hear.

“…trust Giles on this,” Tara was saying, her voice pleading. “I’ve been thinking a lot about everything, and…and it’s not as clear cut as I used to think it was. It’s complicated. It’s….”

Xander closed his book. “Right,” he said, his voice tight. “And you’ve been doing all this thinking exactly when? You’ve been alive again for, what, 24 hours?”

“Xander!” Dawn couldn’t keep the shock from her voice. “What’s going on?”

“Dawnie,” Tara said; her eyes cut back to Xander, who pushed back his chair and headed for the pizza. Tara watched him go and then looked down at the table for a moment. Her fingers traced the raised letters on a leather-bound book. “Dawnie,” she finally said again, looking up at her. “I’ve hardly seen you. Come sit with me.” She patted the seat next to her. “No Glory action, I promise.” She smiled, sort of. “What’s this about headaches?”

Dawn shrugged and took the paper plate of pizza that Buffy handed her. “It’s funny,” she said, “but I haven’t had one since you’ve been back. I mean, I know it’s only been like a day, but it’s a whole day. And the last couple of weeks, I was having them all the time. More and more, in fact. Maybe I was allergic to England.”

Tara leaned forward. “I’m sorry you were going through that,” she said. “We have to get you to a doctor, see what’s causing them.”

Dawn shook her hair back before blowing on her pizza and taking a bite. “It wasn’t that bad,” she said through a mouthful of cheese. “They never lasted very long, and Willow always took care of me.”

Tara smiled. “You know, Dawnie, Willow said the same thing about you.” Dawn flushed with pleasure. She had done that, hadn’t she? Even with the headaches. It all seemed so long ago, so far away, the distortions of sound and sight. The voices pitched high and the crowded white on white images. The headaches that made her rigid with pain.

“It’s all blurry now, anyway,” Dawn continued. “I mean, whenever I had them, Willow was always there. Like, every time. I don’t remember that much, but I remember that one thing. Willow was always there. I kind of think that.…”

Dawn looked sideways at Tara, wondering if she should tell her the other part, the part she hadn’t even told Willow. She wasn’t even sure it even meant anything, the missing time.

But Tara wasn’t really listening to her. Not really. Her eyes kept darting to the closed door of the training room, and more than once Dawn thought she was going to just get up and walk over. Finally, Dawn shrugged and took another bite of her pizza.

“Aren’t you going to eat?” She gestured to the other paper plate on the table. Tara nodded and pulled the plate toward her, smiling quickly. But Dawn had had a lot of practice at reading faces that summer. Well, one face anyway. And she could see now that Tara’s quick smile was a cover. That all she was thinking about was Willow.



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Tara watched Xander eat three slices of pizza without pausing before he wiped his mouth with his sleeve and took a breath. He’d eaten standing up, and now he shifted from foot to foot.

She understood where he was coming from. She really did. She had been there herself, weeks ago. Well, months ago now, but it felt like weeks. Weeks that stretched endlessly backward in her memory because they felt like whole years that she had spent without Willow.

But everything was different now. Maybe she should be wary, too, but it just wasn’t in her anymore. Not after today. Not after the previous night. She knew Xander was thinking of the Willow who bruised others, but even after all that Tara had heard that day, she could only see the bruised Willow, the Willow who was black and blue inside and needed her. The Willow she had finally—oh God, finally—found again.

Tara’s cheeks burned with the sense-memory of Willow’s hot tears on her face. She had tasted Willow on her tongue, and she had worn Willow on her skin. There wasn’t a shower in the world that could have washed that away. And no magick would ever, could ever take that away again. She felt that now, deep as muscle and bone.

“Are you okay? You look upset,” Dawn said now, and Tara realized that her cheeks really had flushed red. She pushed her chair back.

“Xander,” Tara said, trying to think of something that would convince him, that would make him see. “She’s going to take it slow. We’ll all help her.” She lifted her chin. “I’ll help her.”

But Xander slammed his fist onto the counter. The pizza boxes moved, and Tara flinched. “You weren’t here, Tara,” he said. “You didn’t see this place. She destroyed it. I just put it back together again.” His voice rose. “ She was insane. She was scary as hell. She was….”

Tara’s jaw tightened against his words. “She was wrong, Xander.” She squeezed her eyes shut for a second. “She knows that. But it’s different now.” She hoped that Willow would keep talking to Giles for a few more minutes. She willed it. “I’m going to see her through this. I’m not going anywhere again.”

“Great,” Xander threw his hands up. “That should do it then, since you’re perfectly safe. No Glory anywhere. You’re in no danger. I feel really reassured.” He scrubbed at the sides of his heads with his fists.

Tara’s breath came out in a shudder. She couldn’t put what she knew to be true into words. She looked helplessly at Buffy, who seemed to understand and stepped in, moving toward Xander, one arm outstretched.

“Xander, we’ve talked about this,” Buffy said, her voice low and controlled.

“ You talked,” he said, jabbing a finger at her. “Giles talked. I listened. But I didn’t like.”

In the taut pause that followed, Tara saw the door to the training room open, and Willow stopped in the doorway, her eyes restless until they settled on Tara.

“Sweetheart,” Tara said, forgetting about Xander for a moment as her body sought out Willow. She felt the familiar pull as they moved toward each other. Which of them was the magnet? Tara wondered. She slid her arms around Willow’s shoulders and felt the body, stiff with tension, soften against hers. One of Willow’s fists was clutched to her chest, but Tara felt the other on her own neck, felt the damp palm under her hair.

Still grasping Tara’s neck, Willow turned to look at the others. Tara could sense the anxiety coming off her in waves, could feel the rapid pulse through the palm on her neck.

“Xander?” Willow asked. Her voice was tight and thin. He looked down, flexed his fingers. “Xander, please talk to me.”

“I want to talk to you,” he said tersely. The steel in his voice stabbed at Tara, and she gripped Willow’s shoulder more tightly.

“Jesus, Willow, that’s just it. I want to talk to you every day. I want to see you every day. The real you, not some scary witch who could lose it at any second.” He took a step toward them, and Tara felt Willow shrink against her. She held on.

“Okay, Xander, you need to cool off,” Buffy said, stepping in again and putting a hand on his sleeve. He shook off her arm and walked away.

“Right,” he said. “Cause I’m the one you should be scared of.” He laughed, a short, terse laugh. “That’s rich, Buff. She tries to the end the world, and you’re scared that I might hurt her?”

“Of course I don’t think that,” Buffy said quietly. “But I think you’re upset, and I think you’re scared. And I don’t think Willow needs to hear this right now.”

Xander met her gaze for a long moment, and then he shook his head. “I’m sorry; I am.” he said. “I wish I could be Mr. Supporto here, but I don’t know how.”

“Would you like to know what I think?” Anya spoke. Tara started. The world had shrunk for a minute to the strained triangle of Willow and Xander and Buffy, and she had forgotten that the others were still there.

“I think you like her this way,” Anya continued, her voice cold but calm. “Weak and needy.”

“What are you talking about?” Xander turned toward her.

“She needs you,” Anya said, her heels clicking onto the floor as she slid off the counter where she’d been sitting. “And you like it. You get to keep on being the hero this way.”

Xander stared at her. “No,” he said. “No. It’s just….” He deflated suddenly, and Tara could almost see the anger as it left him, the huge puff of it leaving him smaller. He was just a boy.

“Willow,” he said, and his voice drooped with defeat. “I saw you smile this morning for the first time in months. I don’t want to lose that.”

Tara felt the pull as Willow broke the protective circle of her arms and took a step toward Xander, reaching toward him. But he held his palms out against her.

“I understand what they’re saying, but the magick…it takes you away, Will,” he said, tilting his head. “And I don’t want you to go. Not anymore.” Sliding his keys off the end of the counter, Xander turned and walked away, up the stairs to the door. And he closed it, very quietly, behind him.

They all stared at the closed door for a moment. Tara half-expected it to open again, half-thought that Xander would come back in, apologize, pull Willow into a hug and tell her he was sorry, that he would support her no matter what. But he didn’t. The door stayed closed. Xander stayed gone.

Finally, a little numb with the shock of it, Tara pulled her eyes from the door to look at Willow. One hand was still clutched to her chest; the other held stiff a few inches from her thigh, reaching toward where Xander had been standing the moment before. Tears had beaded on her chin.

Tara reached for her again and gathered her up.



****



The road to the Magic Box was paved with good distractions. Doc smiled to himself. The Poet, indeed. Give a man a Norton anthology and a few tae bo lessons, and he thought he could take on the powers of darkness. He looked familiar, and Doc had almost stopped for a better look, but there were more important issues at hand.

Doc knew better. Fighting was all well and good, but if you didn’t have the proper tools, jabs and punches didn’t get you very far. Look at the Slayers….they were an endangered species. Always the last of their kind. He’d learned that lesson many years ago, and he’d stopped wasting his energy on them.

No. Far better to have education than to fight. Book learning. The classics: Latin, Demonology, Sumerian, Celtic Runes and Artifacts. A really long tongue and a tail didn’t hurt, either.

The Key…now there was a tool he’d have liked to have added to his repertoire. Too bad they’d missed that once-in-a-lifetime chance. The Key would never open that particular door again. Not that one.

But there were other doors. He wondered idly if she was aware of them, that little girl.

And he was headed for one of them right now. To see an old friend. To get some answers. And to find his Glory.



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Tara rubbed her hand over the small of Willow’s back, pressing gently. Willow had been breathing slowly since Xander had left, just sitting and listening to the others talk--or not talk--and trying to be calm. She had been almost ready to try the magic, Tara thought, but Xander had scared her.

He had meant to, she thought. And it had worked.

So Giles and Anya were poring over the books, looking one last time for a way to chart essences without using magic. Dawn was helping, casting worried looks at Willow from time to time. Buffy was leaning against the bookshelf, her eyes on the front door to the shop.

She was still and silent, but Tara could see that she was thinking furiously.

Tara turned back to Willow. It would all be fine. It had to be. Maybe they were making something out of nothing. She felt normal. She didn’t feel any connection to Glory. Nothing at all. And she would talk to Xander herself. She would make him understand.

Willow still held one hand to her chest. Tara had thought it was the clenched fist of anxiety, but now she looked more closely and saw a glint of metal near the base of Willow’s thumb. She took Willow’s fist in hers and unfolded the fingers to see a small pewter object on a chain in her palm.

“It’s a pendulum,” Willow said. “Giles gave it to me.”

Tara turned the inch-long pendulum over in her hand. She held it up to the light so she could see it better. “What did he say it’s for?” Her voice had slowed, but Willow didn’t seem to notice.

“It was his grandmother's,” she said. “It’s supposed to be a reminder of balance. Walking the line.”

Tara fingered the pendulum for a long moment before handing it back to Willow, whose hand closed around it tightly again. And then she looked at Giles thoughtfully.

“I think,” she started to say. The symbol was familiar, and she thought that it meant something else, something important.

“What is it?” Willow said.

Tara glanced at Giles again, and then at Willow's green and trusting eyes. “Nothing,” she said. “It’s lovely.” She smiled at Willow, pulled her close, and kissed her forehead. “And I’m sure Xander will feel differently soon,” she said softly against Willow’s ear.

But over Willow’s shoulder, she looked at Giles, and the wisps of a thought gathered. And took shape. And clouded her eyes.


To be continued in Chapter 11, “Cabaret.”





Edited by: Tulipp at: 8/5/02 6:36:55 am
Tulipp
 


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Postby Rane018 » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:54 am

oooh! what's brewing in Tara's memory?! i dont like cliffhangers *sniffle* they make me all goosey. i liked Xander's outburst, it rang true, but i also liked anya's observation that he maybe likes being the hero. after all he's the only one there without any mystical power of the group and that could leave him a bit left out. will have to wait patiently until the next update. hugs!

Rane018
 


Re: Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:59 am

Rane and everyone: Sorry for the cliffhanger! But you knew it was coming eventually, right? Right? As for Tara's memory, well.... I'm not talking yet.



And Rane, it won't be so long until the next update. See if the gooseys will go away until around Wednesday.



Edited to add: p.s. I love it when I post in someone else's thread right when they post in mine. Synchronicity. Oh wait, that's a later chapter....

Edited by: Tulipp at: 8/4/02 9:01:55 pm
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Re: Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby Puff » Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:08 am

Wow that was really good. Very tense as well I feel like I need to stretch now after reading it.



I loved Anya in this part. Her comments about demon slime pizza were funny and her observation about the Xander/Willow relationship was very insightful and spot on I reckon.



That's not a nice place to leave a chapter though and I worry that Giles maybe is up to something that he shouldn't be, what does Tara remember? :)

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Postby Rane018 » Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:14 am

hehe, i just noticed your post in my thread. you are too funny. :)



so guess i can look forward to another update on wednesday, eh? ok, for you i'll try to keep calm. i'm actually, finally, catching up on all the fic on this board. should take me until wednesday to read everything so i'll be ready and waiting for your update. and for the synchronistic chapter as well. ;)

"She has magic fingers." Then, as though the words had just echoed back to her and sounded not at all right, she perked up and glanced around at the others. "On the keyboard." Tara, The Wisdom Of War...

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Re: Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby MissQuirky » Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:41 am

Great update, Very intense! I can understand the whole Xander bein angry thing but i'm w/ Anya on this one i think 4 once he wants to be the hero. Can't wait 4 ur next update! :)

"W-well, I-I was wondering, maybe, you would wanna go out sometime? For coffee ... food ... kisses and gay love?" - Willow (Normal Again)

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Update

Postby LeatherQueen » Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:22 am

Hmm... very intense and stuff is brewing on the horizon, it seems. And not just Tara is thinking of stuff. I'd like to know just what Dawn was about to say before Tara looked away. :)






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"But when they're playing your song on the jukebox in Hell, you might as well dance." - K. Simpson


"Futile... like a FOX, baby!" - Tara in The Late Shift by wiccachica

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Re: Update

Postby Thanatopsis » Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:29 pm

Intense update. All sorts of things building it seems. Curious as to everyone's response to Doc, seeing how he's on his way to the Magic Box. Also about the insight Dawn was moving towards before she trailed off.



When I read this, To be continued in Chapter 11, “Cabaret.” my first thought was, "Like the musical?" and it was almost instinctual to run away screaming. Not that I don't like the musical or this story, it would just be really weird.



Please excuse the weirdness of this post, I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

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Too many of us live desert lives. ~Charles de Lint

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Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:54 pm

Thanks for the comments so far, all. Individually….



Puff: I’m glad the Xander/Willow stuff here worked at least some; I had misgivings, I’ll admit, about putting Willow through anything else, but I promise that resolution is coming; it really is. As for that not being a nice place to leave a chapter, well, I guess you’re right. But I’m telling you, I look around Pens, and it’s Cliffhanger City, so I’m just following everyone’s good example. *s*



Rane Ooh, good reading until Wednesday.



Miss Quirky Yeah, I imagine that a lot of people might be with Anya on this one.



LeatherQueen: Oh no, a “hmmm” from LQ. And I'm not sure it’s the good kind of “hmmm,” although I guess I asked for it with this chapter. It is a very intense moment. Ever since chapter 7, we’ve been in the same day, and a lot has happened in that one day. As for what Dawn was about to say…well, it’s important. And it's coming up.



Thanatopsis: I’m must having my morning coffee myself, so I’m with you. But again, “intense” is how I imagine everyone feeling. They don’t know what the deal is with Tara’s return, they’re all exhausted from being up a lot of the night for one reason or another, they have all spent the day together for the first time all summer. As for the musical…I honestly didn’t think until this minute about any connection with OMWF, if that’s what you mean. Eek. As for Cabaret itself, it’s just a Doc connection for me.



Thank you all for reading and bearing with the cliffhangers; there will probably be one more cliffhanger in the next chapter, although a gentler one.

--Tulipp





Tulipp
 


Re: Update

Postby Lusciousbr » Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:19 pm

What a nice Good Morning waking up and having one of those wonderful updates here (I must say it's still 8.20 am where I am). I could actually see Giles planning something behind those glasses. And the sequences of cliffhangers is killing me (in a good way). I just wonder when Willow will smile again, it's been painful to 'watch' her mourn for her own mistakes. But then, I can't see any other way she could be.



BTW, amazing uptdate! It's never too much saying this.

Lusciousbr
 


Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:38 pm

Okay, one more quick reply before I take a shower, but I am definitely going to be late for work today.



Lusciousbr: Oh, the cliffhangers. And the pain. Yes, Willow has some pain, but for me, in some way, this is the last ring of fire for her: #1. she got Tara back, and that's the most important thing (and if anyone thinks that I will threaten that relationship in any but the most well-intentioned and ultimatley harmless of ways, well, they just don't know how much I love these characters). #2. she got at least the potential for magic back, if not the thing itself just yet. and #3: she needs to get her friends back. Poor Xander; he's really been through the ringer; I thought of him spending all those days for three months building the Magic Box again. He needed an outburst. But he can't bear to see Willow in pain any more than anyone else can--what fueled his temper was a deep love for Willow. And he will be reminded of that soon. Glad you liked the update though. It's really all uphill from this and the next chapter.



Tulipp
 


Re: Update

Postby IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:27 pm

ok, saw it, read it, liked it and here i am for the harassing. :bounce when's the next one? and as i outed myself in your thread as one who didn't quite love Giles, i now realize that Xander too is yuck (never liked him too much either)! and Giles did something bad or at least weird by giving Willow that pendant - he's sneaky :rolleyes .

:bounce update soon! :bounce

C

"Es ist fuer einen Menschen unertraeglich, ertragen zu werden." (Jean Cocteau)
"Ain't never gonna love you any better babe - And they'll never gonna love you right" (Kozmic Blues - Janis Joplin)

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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:48 pm

ISABIG, sorry to add to your bad man list. But with everyone so happy and so together for the most part, the occasional tantrum is to be expected, I think. As for Giles being sneaky, well, he really has Willow's best interests in mind. And update around Wednesday. Thanks for reading this!

Edited by: Tulipp at: 8/5/02 8:54:57 am
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Re: Update

Postby IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous » Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:11 pm

hey, it's ok, it's not your fault. i'm just not a huge fan of either of them, anyway, you know you shouldn't take my comments all too serious :)

hope you're feeling better after the whole Joss at SDCC thing :)

take care.

C

"Es ist fuer einen Menschen unertraeglich, ertragen zu werden." (Jean Cocteau)
"Ain't never gonna love you any better babe - And they'll never gonna love you right" (Kozmic Blues - Janis Joplin)

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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:26 pm

Thanks, C. I must be extra-weepy today. But now I will be strong and get back to work on Chapter 11.

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Re: Update

Postby IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous » Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:41 pm

don't work too much - unless it's exclusively for the next update :grin

C

"Es ist fuer einen Menschen unertraeglich, ertragen zu werden." (Jean Cocteau)
"Ain't never gonna love you any better babe - And they'll never gonna love you right" (Kozmic Blues - Janis Joplin)

IsayAmberBensonsgorgeous
 


Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Grimaldi » Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:06 pm

great update. Anya's comment about the pizza was funny, and her observation after Xander's rant was right on, Xander likes being the hero. looking forward to everyone's reaction when Doc shows up at the Magic Box.

Dude, we're surrounded by perverts!

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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby tommo » Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:08 pm

Yeah yeah, I know I said I was staying away for a while, but watch how my resolve crumbles in the light of this fic. It's very rare to read something that isn't afraid to show the flaws in all our characters. It's even more rare to come away from reading it with a sense of deep emotional response.



Personally, I'm heartily impressed at the connections you're making between Giles and Willow. They are the same, in a lot of ways. I was always so very disappointed at how the show never dealt with that in a way that indicated acknowledgement of this very simple similarity. What you've done here is underlined the experience over naivete, and held Giles up as a beacon for Willow to look to. I trust him, rightly or wrongly, but I do. I trust that he cares enough about Willow to help her through this. And the hardest path to walk is the one which ultimately leads to salvation. I think that's what Willow is looking for right now.



Anyway, onto Chapter 10. Wonderful stuff. Xander's reaction is understandable. He's a fuckwit, we all know this. And I was beginning to lose patience with him until his line about seeing Willow smile sunk in. He's afraid, of course he is. Afraid of the person he's known his whole life. We know that Willow won't be all black magicky again, but he doesn't. And his entire lack of faith in himself and his friends doesn't afford him the rationale to convince himself otherwise. That's Xander all over for you. I'm so very impressed at the characterisation you presented here. And Anya's words just underlined how insecure Xander is. It's his curse, if you like. He's stupid and immature and hurtful and sometimes, that's the way that people are.



Right then. I'm off again. But thank you. This is food for the soul. :)


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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby little wicca dude » Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:17 pm

hey dude



great update, hope xander and willow work it out, and whats with the pendulum, coz tara knows something, its bugging me now, so update soon please :)



luv jill xx

"did i just say that? did i just say that too?"

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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tiggrscorpio » Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:18 pm

Tulipp, wonderful update. Loved your Ssoj demon. Xander's outburst was surprising, but very true to character. Anya's interpretation seemed partially true, as well as him just missing his old friend. The magick does change her. Still wondering what Doc is up to!

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She's my everything!

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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:28 pm

Grimaldi: Thanks; I’m not sure where the pizza scene came from, honestly. But they had to eat sometime, right? And yes, Anya sees things clearly, I think. She definitely has some blind spots, and Xander is one of them, but still.



Ruth: Thank you for coming in for this; it means a lot. And you know how much I trust your emotional sense of these characters, so I’m really glad to see your thoughts on these two chapters. I too was always surprised that the show didn’t do more with Willow/Giles; it was such a main-text comparison, so on the table. And Giles’ neglect of Willow began so very early. I love that in “Touchstone,” btw, Giles is such an important fixture. He doesn’t always understand Willow, and he doesn’t always know how to be easy around her, but in your fic, he loves her, and he has hope for her, and it shows in a particularly Giles-ian way.



As for chapter 10, I do think Xander would react this way. I do. And I think he would get carried away and go almost one step too far. I’m interested in your comment about almost losing patience with him. Since ISABIG outed herself recently as not a Xander fan, I might as well say that I have actually always found Xander to be a sympathetic character. I don’t always like the self-righteous attitude he tends to take toward Buffy’s and Willow’s choices, but I think that he loves these two women very, very much. One of his problems is that he doesn’t always trust them the way he should. And he doesn’t trust himself…the jilting of Anya is a case in point. But yes, he’s scared of Willow almost as much as he’s scared of almost losing her…again. Anyway, thank you so very much for this.



Jill: Well, working it out is on the horizon, but no yellow crayons this time. As for the pendulum, you’ll have to be bugged a little longer. But all things will come to light eventually…. (was that ominous? I was going for ominous.)



Tiggr: Yay! I was hoping someone would like the Ssoj demon; at least one of my two betas didn’t see it, and the other’s not talking. Xander…yes, in character, but I think you’re right that Anya only partly gets it. It’s not so much that he wants to be a hero, but that he wants Willow. The Willow he understands, and that’s not always the same Willow she has been for awhile. As for Doc…well, he’s not up to much that you haven’t already thought of, but a confrontation is coming.



Thank you all!

Tulipp
 


Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby xita » Sun Aug 04, 2002 9:32 pm

Oh man that was great. But now I am all curious.. what is going on. And I really enjoyed the Tara perspective in this piece, particularly because everyone was having these strong emotions and she was sort of the middle man. Great job!

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Re: Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby darkmagicwillow » Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:06 pm

I really liked the X/W conflict. Very emotional and believable. Willow and Tara aren't the only people who have been hurt here and not everyone is as mature as Giles in dealing with it.



I'm puzzled by the pendulum. I'm not seeing what Tara's seeing though.



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"Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "   "Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost."

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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:33 pm

Xita, thanks! You know, you really have Ruby, my beta, to thank for Tara’s perspective in the whole middle section here; that was originally Buffy’s perspective since she hasn’t had any in awhile (hee hee), but Ruby said that we needed Tara here. And she was right.



Darkmagicwillow: Glad that the Xander/Willow tension worked. There’s unfortunately enough hurt to go around here, and it is. As for the pendulum, I guess I’m thinking of this fic as having several shorter, overlapping arcs. One of those arcs is nearing its end, sort of, one other was introduced way at the beginning but is only just beginning really to matter, and several others have been introduced in recent chapters that will start to take on more significance as we go. The pendulum is in the latter category. But if it’s too puzzling…well, then that would be bad, so I’ll need to think about that. Thanks for sharing that reaction, btw; it is already helping me to clarify what I’m doing with that.



Thanks!

Tulipp
 


Re: Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby VampNo12 » Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:45 pm

Another wonderful update Tulipp! This part was certainly tense, and I liked the differing reactions by the gang. It's an interesting perspective for Tara considering for so long she was against Willow's reliance on magick, but now being brought back she understands, has a new clearer view on the situation. With this in mind I thought Tara thinking ("She knew Xander was thinking of the Willow who bruised others,.... she could only see the bruised Willow, the Willow who was black and blue inside and needed her."), was quite poignant. In other words, yes Willow created a great deal of destruction as DMW, but now together (with the help of the gang), they can start to "fix"/heal Willow (deal with her problems/issues) so what happened in the past won't occur in the future.



As for Xander I do understand his outburst. He misses the "old Willow" the one who is happy, and smiles. Xander knows the destruction DMW has caused, and I think just the idea of Willow falling "prey" to the magick (with the repercussions of this) frightens him deeply. Also in one sense I understand Anya's perspective of Xander "wanting Willow weak and needy, in order to be the hero." Xander has always seen himself as the one "without powers"/average, and now he gets to be the one who saves the day (ie increases his self-esteem). I don't think Anya's thoughts are totally true, but I do believe there is some truth to what she is saying.



Also I am curious about Dawn's headaches, and what she was about to tell Tara about "the missing time". I am greatly intrigued to how this "piece fits into the overall puzzle", as well as what Doc is up to be heading for the Magic Box. Lastly the cliffhanger was interesting, and I can't wait to see what Tara is remembering.

Edited by: VampNo12  at: 8/5/02 1:47:43 pm
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Re: Chapter 10 Feedback

Postby Tulipp » Mon Aug 05, 2002 2:05 am

VampNo12, your response really got me thinking. I really appreciate what you say about Tara's perspective having changed. I think that's true; I think she came back to Willow in "Entropy" ready to move on. By mentioning in the previous chapter that Giles had actually spoken via phone with Tara before she died, I guess I was hoping to suggest that Tara went back to Willow ready to try again...with Willow but also with the magick.



I took my cue for that from the wonderful bed-scene at the beginning of "Seeing Red" where Tara says "oh, there was plenty of magic." I know that was figurative right there, but it struck me at the time that Tara was natural about using the word, and I got a glimmer of possibility. Tara is ready to work on this. Xander...not so much.



You're also very right about Anya, righter than I think I realized originally. She's only partially right. But of course, even though I am suggesting that she and Xander are on-again, off-again, she still has a lot to be upset with him about. And that would cloud her vision of events.



Anyway, thanks. I always enjoy seeing what you see.

Tulipp
 


Re: Chapter 10: One Step Forward

Postby Marilda » Mon Aug 05, 2002 3:08 am

As always, I'm in awe. And the next chapter is called, "Cabaret," huh? Wonder who that one is going to be about. Waiting anxiously for next part.

Marilda
 

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