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What do you like to read Friday? MKF 12-06-02

Postby Patches » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:50 pm

Caged Heart, Ohhh, I'm so glad you asked that question 'cause now I can blather on (again) about my favourite past time and my newest lesbian literary goddess - JM Redmann and her wonderful Micky Knight series.

Must preface this by saying I was never a huge mystery/detective fan, until I picked up Redmann's first novel Death by the Riverside, and if not an instant mystery fan, I'm certainly a Redmann fan. Her second book Deaths of Jocasta was also _amazing_, both are available on the net from Amazon, but if you can't find them there, Bella Books has re-published them and you can order them off their web site (reasonably priced too). Her third and fourth novels Intersection of Law and Desire and Lost Daughters are currently out of print, but you might scrounge around the used book sites to pick up a copy. Also, Kate Calloway's Cassedy James Mystery series - now up to 8 books, are fun little fluffy romps; though the first two are out of print and are hard to find, each novel is a stand alone story, so you don't lose by not having books one and two.

If you like Sci-Fi, Jean Stewart's Isis series (now at 4 books) is worth the buy - though sometimes I find her writing a little uneven, the story line is highly entertaining. Her other books are decent reads as well.

Sarah Walter's novels Tipping The Velvet, Affinity and Fingersmith (next on my list to read), are great - she captures the essence of the late 19th century remarkably well; her characters and stories are engaging and she is a top notch writer. I guess a PhD in Literature helps her cause and so does being short listed for the Booker Prize.

Out of the lesbian fold, but with strong female characters are Marion Zimmer Bradley's Avalon books and Firebrand (they should be available at your local library). If you haven't read them yet, they are fantastic, but don't read them by publication date. The original book published was Mists of Avalon, but Bradley wrote two prequels and the sequel was published posthumously (I think I got the publication order right). Nevertheless ... the historical chronology goes thusly: 1) Firebrand; 2)Forrest House; 3) Lady of Avalon; 4) Mists of Avalon; and 5) Priestess of Avalon. What I found so engaging about these works was that she took legendary stories and re-told them from the women's perspective. Firebrand is the story of the fall of Troy told through the eyes of Cassandra; the Avalon books explore the Arthurian legend from the perspective of the women (none of whom are evil in Bradley's retelling, btw). Anyway, if you're looking for some interesting reading and worthwhile purchases, these are a few of the books that top my list. (And, ahem, I'm certain MaClayMagic's books will be on my list as soon as they hit my mail box ;) )

Happy searching in NYC.

Cheers!!
Patches
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Postby Garner » Wed Dec 11, 2002 4:49 pm

I want to put in a third Huzzah! for Bloom County! My favorite all time cartoon series! :)

Reading, boy I do that a lot. Mostly I read military history, mostly WWII aviation or pacific stuff since that is my specialty, but any era will do. On the lighter side:

David Weber: Honor Harrington is amazing, especially the first three novels, though the rest are good. He writes a good, strong female main character in a very technical SF military universe. Basically an updated Horatio Hornblower series.

Glen Cook: A master at sort of dark Fantasy, the Black Company series rules! He started out with the idea of a mercenary unit working in the employ of someone like Sauron, but with a free companies in the 100 years war model. He also has a fantasy detective series very much Raymond Chandler-esque that is very good called the Garrett Series. These can be read individually.

Roger Zelazny: The master! Lord of Light, Creatures of Light and Darkness, Amber, Road Marks, Doorways in the Sand, ShadowJack all are incredible with a great sense of language. His short stories are awesome too. One of his last was A Night in the Lonesome October which was from the point of view of Jack the Ripper's dog! It was up to his old standards.

HP Lovecraft: Duh! The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward is still my fav, but Dreamquest is good, Shadows Over Innsmouth, At the Mountains of Madness. He writes in a little bit stiltified manner of the 1920s englishophile but that can be gotten past.

I think Jixer mentioned Mercedes Lackey, the Last Herald Mage series I liked, the Diana Tresgard stuff was good, and I am surprised more here don't like the Tarma and kethrie stories though all this is her earlier work which I think was better than more recent stuff. The same is true for me of Frank Herbert's Dune, read the early stuff. I like the Fionavar Tapestry for its Arthurian influences, but thought the last one got repetitive in its style. Raymond Feist is usually fun, any of the Rift War stuff is good as is David Eddings Belgariad series. David Drake did an homage to Manly Wade Wellman, whose Silver John is incredible as well, called Old Nathan that is amazing especially how he had animals that could communicate but still remain the animals they were. His Hammer's Slammers stuff is good too. I still like Heinlein's Starship Troopers which is nowhere near as facist as some like to say and much better than the abomination of a movie that was made.

Well, that's enough for now, but there sure are a lot of good books out there.

Garner
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:19 pm

Bloom County was awesome.

I like dark fantasy as anyone who reads my writing can tell. Glen Cook is one of my favorites. I also liked his [i:275b5ab2fd]The Swordbearer[/i:275b5ab2fd]. Lovecraft of course is the master of darkness. I really enjoyed your Lovecraft-themed story on Pens, Garner, though I forget the name. Tanith Lee is another of my favorite dark fantasy/horror authors and she's beginning to come back in print recently.

I really liked most of the early Zelazny books you listed, but didn't like his later works until the wonderful [i:275b5ab2fd]Lonesome October[/i:275b5ab2fd] at the end of his life that you mention.
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Postby taralicious » Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:46 pm

DarkMagicWillow-Ah yes, Tanith Lee. Nothing like a good bit of softcore porn to while away an evening.
I'll never forget reading the graphic novel (comic book to the layman) adaptation of The Silver Metal Lover and going "Cor Blimey" at the nice human/robot shagging which ensued.
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Postby Cicca » Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:34 pm

Here's another vote for the Diana Tregarde stuff and especially Tarma and Kethry. That's one of my favourite series. I guess I'm just a sucker for "sisterhood". I hate to admit that some of Mercedes Lackey's newer stuff seems "phoned-in", but it does... Sadly!

And on that kids' books note, A Wrinkle In Time is a definite fave.
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Postby Garner » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:44 am

DMW, I also like some of the Tanith Lee that I have read, mostly the Arabian fairytale style stuff, Master of Darkness and such which I read a long time ago. I should mention that if you like Diana Tregarde, try Tanya Huff's vampire series, it is pretty good to and a good lead in to the Laurell Hamilton Anita Blake stuff which is good, pretty dark, but gets a bit too far into twisted sex stuff for me. Still, there is balance there. She is sort of like a cross between detective stuff, Lovecraft, and Clive Barker. I have also enjoyed Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series lately. It is set in Chicago where magic is real, but less admitted and well recognized than in the Anita Blake world. Yeah, Zelazny for a while in the 80s was not up to his early work, which is too bad. I liked the Merlin Amber chronicles, mostly for the Logrus and different view of the universe, but the original stuff was still better.

I should also mention that if you have a strong stomach, and want to read sort of true crime stuff John Douglas Mind Hunter and the sequel are among the best. Douglas was one of the first profilers that started all that with the FBI. If you think the scum that do that sort of thing shouldn't just be removed from this world and can be rehabilitated, Douglas should change your mind. Good, but intense reads.

Garner
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:20 am

Thinking of graphic novels, I haven't seen any recommendations of those. Neil Gaiman's Sandman and Death series are my favorites, but Maus is also excellent (hey, it won a Pullitzer). Sim's Cerebus books, especially [i:8ea57a8265]High Society[/i:8ea57a8265] and [i:8ea57a8265]Church and State[/i:8ea57a8265] are excellent. Kabuki is another good one though I've forgotten the author.
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Postby taralicious » Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:43 am

Graphic novels of choice:
Watchmen, V For Vendetta, The Killing Joke, Top 10, Promethea, From Hell-All by Alan Moore/various artists
The Preacher series in 9 volumes-Garth Ennis/Steve Dillon
Crisis on Infinite Earths-Marv Wolfman/George Perez
The Invisibles series in 6 volumes-Grant Morrison/various artists
Box Office Poison-Alex Robinson
Camelot 3000-Mike W. Barr/Brian Bolland
The Dark Knight Returns and the sequel of sorts The Dark Knight Strikes Back-Frank Miller/Lynn Varley
Small Favors(Girly Porno Comic Book Collection)-Collen Coover
She is wonderfully talented and an incredibly sweet person as well as being a comic book geek. She works at Daydreams in Iowa City, the best comic book store in the world.
Those are just a few of my favorites from my lifelong passion of storytelling in all its variant forms.
Love live comic book geekdom!
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Postby Miss Nomi » Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:42 pm

My friend just bought me Tipping the Velvet as and early crimbo pressie and having seen the t.v version this is sooo much better. Pure smut. :D I recomend it to everyone!!

Nomi ;)
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Postby Garner » Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:22 pm

Graphic Novels was a good idea, but Taralicious got most of them. I like a lot of the old First Comic stuff, Grimjack and Nexus mostly. I also have really liked Promethea which is also Allan Moore. The down side is most of these aren't collected. :(

I do have to say that J. Michael Strazincky's (However you spell his last name?) run on Amazing Spiderman, which has been collected, is very good. I would also put in a vote for Kurt Busiek's Astro City.

OHH, Matt Wagner's Mage, the Hero Discovered is an awesome modern adaptation of Arthurian mythos stuff with awesome art and humor.

Garner
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Postby ruby » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:41 pm

Ah, Bloom County. How I miss it. Remember the stuffed Opus doll?

Right now I can't get enough of the food writer M.F.K. Fisher. Any good food writing, actually.
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Fri Dec 13, 2002 5:06 pm

My friend who works in my local Borders turned me on to J. Michael Strazincky's two Spiderman graphic novels and I was quite impressed. I had read the original Spiderman when I was a kid and had seen the movie recently, but I hadn't read a superhero title since I was a kid. His Spiderman books helped me rediscover my love for this character; I just love how he had a family and a life that he's trying to live, but he also has a cause that he can't give up. Actually, as I write this, he reminds me of how Buffy used to be in the beginning.
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Postby taralicious » Sat Dec 14, 2002 12:03 am

Yes, Astro City is a wonderfully realized idea of a city where everyone has a superpower of some sort.
Alan Moore's Top 10 series plays with the same idea as well.
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Postby dulcinea » Sat Dec 14, 2002 1:18 am

Astro city is great - I wasn't a comic/graphic novel reader until a friend of mine made me read the "confessor" trade paperback. It completely changed my views of graphic novels, and since then, I've read so many...and really enjoyed the death of superman/resurrection trades... "Bone" is cool too.

heh, I'm going to have to go right back through this thread and take notes. Then get off to the library to pick up some summer reading for over christmas.
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Postby bronwyn » Sat Dec 14, 2002 1:20 pm

Great thread! I love to read.

Like Patches, I love the 'Mists of Avalon' series and Guy Gavriel Kay's work. I also like Neil Gaiman's writing, especially 'Neverwhere' - kind of a dark fantasy tale. I love Harry Potter and Tolkein but also read a lot of "classics" - from 'Sense and Sensibility' to 'Moby Dick'. Lately I've been branching out into more poetry, namely Walt Whitman and Dylan Thomas. I try and be adventurous in my reading so my bookshelves are quite ecclectic.

Realistically most of my reading is related to my studies. I'm in between my M.A. and my PhD so I do a lot of reading for thesis ideas in my search for direction and inspiration. I'm studying Celtic Studies, especially (but not exclusively) Wales, in the Early Medieval period so as often as not my nose is buried in 'Y Gododdin' or some other saga text.

Patches, was it you who said you found indigo/chapters disappointing for fiction? I know I read someone on this thread was but now I can't find it (long day). I know you're in Canada (I'm in Toronto) so have you checked out the Toronto Women's Bookstore. I believe that they ship and they've got a decent fiction section. You probably have already but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
BB,
Bronwyn
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Mon Dec 16, 2002 7:30 am

Ruby, I was unpacking today and I not only remembered my stuffed Opus, but I found him! Remember the episodes where they argued that he was a puffin, not a penguin. Well, I think they were right...
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Postby taralicious » Mon Dec 16, 2002 10:53 pm

Darkmagicwillow-All I can say about this is "ACK! THPFBT!"
Bill The Cat, now there was an inspired comic strip character.
After all, he went on to become one of the most beloved characters in all of Western Folklore.
There are some really nice original framed strips that Berke Breathed did in tribute to places he loved in Iowa City which hang in the Iowa City Public Library and a local independent bookstore called Prairie Lights.
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Postby Patches » Tue Dec 17, 2002 11:29 am

Bronwyn, a medievalist eh? Very cool - 'twas my discipline when I did my undergrad; also studied early medieval England (Arthurian legend fanatic - hence the addiction to Mists of Avalon) - and the rise and impact of the early Church in the west, but no such exciting fiction arose from those legends (unless of course you *ahem* consider current church doctrine :o). After reading Mary Stewart's Crystal Cave series in high school, I consumed all things Arthurian for a great many years. However, I still prefer the old Arthur to Malorys nod to chivalric custom (I hate revisionism, even if it's 500 odd year old revisionism).

But back on topic for a minute - actually, I hadn't considered the Women's Book Store (D'Oh!), will have to make the daring trek down the QEW from Hamilton and check it out. I was looking for JM Redmanns third book Intersection of Law and Desire it was published by Norton, and it appears they have orphaned both this novel and her more recent (1999) book Lost Daughters, so much for mainstream presses [rant]. Amazon has improved their selection of g/l lit, but getting timely delivery is almost impossible with Canada customs holding many (most all??) of our books at the border. :mad

If you, or anyone out in Kitten land, know of good lesbian titles to recommend please pass them along. I'll read anything, but prefer to avoid novels filled with continuity flaws, bad grammar, poor structure, weak and/or predictable story lines and hollow characters (I hate cardboard characters) - even if they're queer, a bad book is a bad book.

Cheers!
Patches
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Tue Dec 17, 2002 12:48 pm

My favorite Arthur is the one in Bernard Cornwell's trilogy starting with [i:e700a1cfa5]The Winter King[/i:e700a1cfa5], though upon further thought it may not be a good recommendation for you as what I love about them is that they're [b:e700a1cfa5]not[/b:e700a1cfa5] medieval. They're set when Arthur supposedly actually lived in the late 5th century during the Saxon invasions and just after the Romans left.
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Postby bronwyn » Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:36 pm

Patches - When you make your daring trek into big bad (or not so big, not so bad) Toronto you should also check out 'This Ain't the Rosedale Library' on Wellesley and the 'Glad Day Gay and Lesbian bookshop' on Younge (above Bakka the Sci Fi bookstore) if you haven't already.

I'm also a sucker for Arthurian stuff. When I did my Masters I had to translate a lot of Arthurian related poetry and prose from the original Welsh. Great stuff. I'm with you; the early medieval Celtic Arthur is far better than the later medieval romantic incarnation. Have you read 'The Arthur of the Welsh' and 'The Arthur of the English' (collected essays)?

Darkmagicwillow - I love the 'Winter King' series. Cornwall does a decent job historically. I consider 5th century medieval but early medieval (my degree was medieval and started in the 4th century). Nice to see Cornwall read his Gildas. I like how both Christians and Pagans are represented as equally fallible. Merlin was great - the man likes his cheese.
BB,
Bronwyn
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Postby taralicious » Wed Dec 18, 2002 12:07 am

Speaking of Bernard Cornwell, I have to chime in with a plug for his Richard Sharpe series of historical adventures.
This series set during the Napoleonic Wars is absolutely brilliant and places you on the battlefield down to the smallest most minute detail.
The man is an impeccable researcher and is second to none in my estimation in historical fiction at the moment.
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Postby Mystikk » Wed Dec 18, 2002 5:09 am

I mostly read scifi, or more precisely the cyberpunk sub-genre.
Somebody already mentioned "Snow Crash" which is one of my favourite books, as is everything by William Gibson.
Fantasy generally bores me but about once every two years I read "Lord Of The Rings".

(And besides that I read *loads* of books for the various RPGs I play...)


*Read the first post of the Test thread, it will explain how to fix your sig.
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Postby bronwyn » Wed Dec 18, 2002 7:49 am

As historical fic goes one can't avoid the massive tomes that Edward Rutherford pumps out. Sarum, The Forest and London. I read Sarum and thought it was ok - not the best book I've ever read but I didn't hate it. He's good historically though. I love historical fiction but tend to get put off if the author takes too many liberties. I know a lot of more modern historical fiction works (especially Irish) but look out for anything before the 15th century. Any suggestions?

The last book I read was 'Possession' by A.S. Byatt. I liked it but found the portrayal of the two lesbian/bisexual characters in the book (Blanche and Lenora) somewhat problematic. Spoiler alert!: ***I mean, the bisexual tries to shag anything that moves and the lesbian goes mad and kills herself. Can you get much more Lesbian Cliched than that? ***

Ooh, lookie. I'm a wannablessedbe no longer. Floating Rose here I come.
-Bronwyn
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Wed Dec 18, 2002 8:27 am

bronwyn, do you like alternate history? I really like Harry Turtledove. His [i:f782bb0408]Agent of Byzantium[/i:f782bb0408] is set in a world where Mohammed became a Christian monk and saint, thus allowing the Byzantine Empire to survive the tumultuous 7th century. He's got a great insight into the turning points of history, a good grasp of what happened with his PhD in Byzantine history, and he can write. It's a great combination.
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Postby Patches » Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:24 am

Darkmagicwillow, have you read Guy Gavriel Kay's historical fiction? He is a brilliant and engaging writer, and is one who takes few liberties with history: Song for Arbonne is set in medieval France; Lions of Al Rassan in medieval Spain; and his new series Serantine Mosaic: Sailing to Sarantium and Lord Emperors addresses Byzantium. If you're looking for virutally flawless historical fantasy, that is more history than fantasy (he's not big on magic, trolls etc) I'd strongly recommend them.

He brings medieval history to life in ways my profs could only dream of; besides being a scholar in his own right, it doesn't hurt his cause that he was on the editorial board for the Silmarillion at the tender age of twenty-something. He has a passion for history and is an amazing story teller who truely brings history to life. (And if you haven't already guessed, Kay is my favourite author ;) )

If you like Harry Turtledove's writing, I'm certain you'll love Kay.

Cheers!
Patches
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Postby darkmagicwillow » Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:57 am

I loved [i:e8e9a6c13d]A Song for Arbonne[/i:e8e9a6c13d] and [i:e8e9a6c13d]Tigana[/i:e8e9a6c13d], but I haven't read the others you mentioned. The Sarantium books looked interesting, but I haven't been able to find the whole series at once. I love Roman and Byzantine history.

One more recommendation: L. Sprague deCamp's [i:e8e9a6c13d]Lest Darkness Fall[/i:e8e9a6c13d], an early althist novel with a modern protagonist dropped into the early Ostrogoth kingdom in Italy and trying to stave off the fall of classical civilization.
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Postby slayer747 » Wed Dec 18, 2002 7:17 pm

i usually just read fanfic, comic books (by neil gaiman) and jeanette winterson novels. but a very good friend of mine (irene) gave me this book, COME UP AND SEE ME SOMETIME by Erika Krauss and I really cannot put it down. Really great!:love
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Postby bronwyn » Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:38 am

Slayer 747 - I love Neil Gaiman. I met him last year at his book signing. Big loser that I am, I was first in line. He was really nice. I've only ever read his Death comics (which I love). Have you read any of his books? I totally plug Neverwhere. It's a great read.

I've noticed that most of this thread has focused on the novels we read. Does anyone read poetry? I've been dipping into a lot of Walt Whitman and Dylan Thomas lately. Any poetic leanings kitties?
-Bronwyn
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Postby Hyo Shin » Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:17 am

Nobody mentioned Adrianne Rich? It's too obvious?
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Postby Xanadu21 » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:30 am

oh, I love poetry! My name comes from the poem Kubla Khan.
I love Adrianne Rich(obviously, who doesn't?) she's one of my big favorites. I also love T.S. Eliot, Pablo Neruda, Robert Frost (Birches is my fav), Walt Whitman (Leaves of Grass is amazing) e.e. cummings, W.B. Yeats, the romantic poets like Colerigde, Shelley, Keats and Byron, Shakespeare's sonnets, Emily Dickensen...
I like Ginsberg's Howl when I'm feeling politically frustrated.

I still love Shel Silverstein and Lewis Carroll, who were my favorite poets when I was a kid.
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