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Postby Tensai » Thu Jan 31, 2002 10:42 pm

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Originally posted by Wiccagrrl:
Tensai, can I ask a question? I notice that the "Tara Dies" spoiler is still listed as possible for Feb Sweeps on your site. Seeing as we know Tara is apparently alive and well in ep 16, and ep 15 is slated as the last one for Feb Sweeps, shouldn't that be considered unlikely, if not a confirmed false?

No problem, I don't mind answering it. Technically, the fact that the Wedding is going to air out of Sweeps was unknown at the time of the original spoiler.

If we didn't lose a week to the Olympics, episode 16 would be a Sweeps episode. Since there is some confusion over whether the episode ends with Xander checking into the motel, or if that's the first scene in the fourth act. So something still could happen by the end of the episode. Plus, as I've stated in tonight's speculation, it would be nice if Marti would refute the entire 'BSD' rumor. I find it strange that she would refute the 'Tara dies' rumor, then plead the Fifth on the BSD.

I can understand your concern, and I'd love to move the spoiler as I'm a big fan of Amber myself. Trust me, I'm not doing it to make the Kitten's miserable. I'm just following the spoilers and the past accuracy of sources. Until I see the Wildfeed for the Wedding or a source pulls the spoiler, it's probably going to remain at 'Possible'.

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Postby xita » Thu Jan 31, 2002 11:05 pm

I think tensai that Marti saying w/t are not done and knowing what we know of 16 is pretty much an assurance that it is not happening in sweeps. W/T don't get back together in 16, she doesn't say Tara isn't dying but neither does she say it isn't Anya or Spike, I mean.. aside from gossip what is the Tara dies spoiler, it doesn't come from sides or scripts and I think the odds of it happening in ep 16 are .00001%

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Postby Dr.G » Thu Jan 31, 2002 11:21 pm

Possible sure has a wide range of probable I guess, it is possible for any and all to bite it I guess, only I do not see them mentioned. Bleh. I give up. Marti will just have to skywrite that Tara is not going to die and Willow is not a Big Bad next time.
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Postby BBOvenGuy » Thu Jan 31, 2002 11:29 pm

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Originally posted by Dr.G:
Bleh. I give up. Marti will just have to skywrite that Tara is not going to die and Willow is not a Big Bad next time.

Oh no, G-Man, that won't work. You know how those ME people always lie.

As for the Big Scooby Death(tm), remember that people have broadened the definition of "Scooby" so much that we could have Spike step on a cockroach in his crypt and people would be claiming they predicted it.

Edited to add a less snarky explanation - I've only seen Marti say "there will be death." Not a Scooby Death. Not a main character death. Just "there will be death." That could mean anyone - Warren, Amy, a cockroach in Spike's crypt. Marti's not being specific - but that vagueness means (to me, anyway) that it's less likely to be one of the core characters. Remember the "Big Scooby Death" in Season 4 that turned out to be Forrest.

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Postby xita » Thu Jan 31, 2002 11:33 pm

Anyway, nothing new to see about Tara so let's move it along... to new spoiler.. anyone.. Bueller... bueller...
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Postby tyche » Fri Feb 01, 2002 6:39 am

Nice story of a fan encounter, with some spoilery ASH/Giles stuff towards the end. Courtesy of The Watcher Girls mailing list:

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Okay - I think I've calmed down a touch now ...
A couple of weeks ago I wrote to ASH via his agents asking if he would give me
some background info on "Music for Elevators" that I could put on my website.
I forgot that I used my usual headed paper which includes my work telephone
number. Anyway, 1.50pm today the phone rang. A voice on the other end asked
"Is that Sandra Pascoe?" I thought - "oh god, I recognise that voice ... I bet
its the bloody bank manager." Imagine my shock when he laughed and said "It's
the tweedy book guy here!".

The voice was SO recognisable - sounded exactly like he did in the Steve Wright
Radio interview. He actually thanked me for the website! I couldn't get my
head around the fact that he'd not only looked at it but read the "Music for
Elevators" review I'd written - picking up on a couple of things I said and
explained about the "dead air" I'd complained about! He was chatting away
about the album and then said "You are writing this down, aren't you?" He
seemed to find it extremely funny when I said that I was shaking so much I
couldn't even hold a pen! Regarding the translation of the French song - he
said he'd rather a translation DIDN'T go on a website because it would "lessen
the effect" of the song - I said no problem (if he'd told me to go and jump off
the nearest cliff I wouldn't have hesitated!)

I did manage to get my senses together to ask a couple of questions about Buffy
S6 & 7, Ripper and Manchild .... spoilers below:

I asked ASH whether he would be in anymore Season 6 eps. His response was that
he's "supposed to be but doesn't really know as it's all confusing and up in
the air at the moment." He doesn't even know what's happening in the show as
he's been sent the episodes but hasn't had time to watch them yet!

Depressing - I asked whether he's signed for S7 and he replied that he's got no
idea at all what's going to happen with Season 7. Doesn't bode well, does it?

The good news is that he's already signed for a second season of "Manchild".
He said the first episode is slightly confusing but "stick with it". When I
assured him that "sticking with it" would be no problem it sent him into
another fit of giggles!

"Ripper" has definitely been delayed because of "Firefly/fox" (whatever its
called!). Apparently, Joss is doing the sci-fi one to keep Fox sweet because
he needs their co-operation to do Ripper. Something to do with licenses.
Apparently nothing like Ripper has ever been done before - not with the level
of co-operation needed between an American company and the good old BBC - who,
according to ASH, are majorly enthusiastic about it and prepared to wait until
doomsday if that's what it takes. He said it's brave of them because they had
their fingers majorly burnt over co-operation with a US company with "Dr Who".

As you can understand I was majorly wigged and funked during this call - I'll
probably remember bits and pieces throughout the next couple of weeks!

I've stopped shaking now - but what an extremely nice man - to take the time to
phone like that. (and he said I can put something on my site to say he's
visited and liked it!!).

Okay I'm going to go and try and get my blood pressure down a bit!

Sandra - Realm of the Tweedy Book Guy
http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/gilesfanfics


NB: 'Manchild' is the new comedy series ASH is doing for the BBC. It's due to be shown at some point later this year.


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Postby Dr.G » Fri Feb 01, 2002 7:57 am

Oh thanks for reposting that Tyche. Heh heh, amusing and informative. I do hope we will see more of Giles, he was my favourite guy type character on the show, but if not, well I can live with it as long as we get W/T goodies.

As for Ripper, if it gets delayed for like one more season it might be be easier for a certain witchy couple to guest star in it.

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Postby Wiccagrrl » Fri Feb 01, 2002 9:21 am

Nice article. And can I just say how much I miss Giles' presence on the show? I was/am really hoping he'll put in an appearance at the wedding.

Oh, and editing to add:

Need.New.Spoilers. NOW!!!

Spoiler fix definitely not being met.

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Postby miss_spangles » Sat Feb 02, 2002 2:43 am

Wow, that's great. I think you handled speaking to ASH really, really well. I'd probably be completely speechless. But it's always great to hear that talented famous people are actually really nice too. Thanks for posting that Tyche.
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Postby Warduke » Sat Feb 02, 2002 8:25 am

Ok, this is the third time we've deleted a post because it's deals with the BSD, why did we do this, because of what xita said in the first post of this thread...

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So I will asks posters, unless there are new, substantial, and legitimate spoilers regarding a possible big scoobie death or Willow the big bad, do not post about it.

So don't post anything else about the BSD unless it's new and substantial and legitimate spoilers, NOT rumors or speculation.

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Has anyone gotten any new information or verification on the rumor that Willow and Tara might get back together at the end of episode 17? Just curious.....

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As of right now, nothing about ep 17 Kendahl, but I can't wait for spoilers about that one.

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Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.

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Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...

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Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...

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Lots of willow/tara stuff!

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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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posted February 03, 2002 13:30               
Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.

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Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.

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I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

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posted February 03, 2002 17:24               
Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04               
Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41               
So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....

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I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.

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posted February 03, 2002 22:28               
Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42               
I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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Has anyone gotten any new information or verification on the rumor that Willow and Tara might get back together at the end of episode 17? Just curious.....

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posted February 02, 2002 22:59               
As of right now, nothing about ep 17 Kendahl, but I can't wait for spoilers about that one.

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Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.

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Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...

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Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...

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Lots of willow/tara stuff!

SPOILERS!!
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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.

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Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.

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I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

~Ash

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posted February 03, 2002 17:11               
Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

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posted February 03, 2002 17:24               
Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:39            
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Originally posted by Dr.G:
However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04               
Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41               
So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....

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posted February 03, 2002 22:21               
I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.

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posted February 03, 2002 22:28               
Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42               
I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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posted February 04, 2002 12:10               
My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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posted February 02, 2002 22:59                As of right now, nothing about ep 17 Kendahl, but I can't wait for spoilers about that one.

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posted February 02, 2002 23:40               
Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.

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posted February 02, 2002 23:59               
Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...

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posted February 03, 2002 00:30               
Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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posted February 03, 2002 00:49               
Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...

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Lots of willow/tara stuff!

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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.

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Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.

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posted February 03, 2002 15:37               
I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

~Ash

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Tara: O-ou-our relationship?
Willow: We're friends.
Tara: Good friends.
Willow: Girlfriends, actually.
Tara: Yes, we're girlfriends.
Willow: We're in love. We're... lovers. Lesbian, gay-type lovers.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:11               
Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

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posted February 03, 2002 17:24               
Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:39            
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Originally posted by Dr.G:
However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04               
Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41               
So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....

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posted February 03, 2002 22:21               
I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.

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posted February 03, 2002 22:28               
Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42               
I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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posted February 04, 2002 12:10               
My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.

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Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...

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posted February 03, 2002 00:30               
Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...

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posted February 03, 2002 00:49                Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...IP: Loggedunderyourspellunregistered posted February 03, 2002 13:20              
Lots of willow/tara stuff!

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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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posted February 03, 2002 13:20               Lots of willow/tara stuff!

SPOILERS!!
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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.

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posted February 03, 2002 13:56               
Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.

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posted February 03, 2002 13:56                Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.
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posted February 03, 2002 15:37               
I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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posted February 03, 2002 15:37                I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

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posted February 03, 2002 17:11                Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?IP: LoggedtommoLesbian Gay Type Lover


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posted February 03, 2002 17:24               
Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:24                Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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Originally posted by Dr.G:
However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04               


Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04                Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41               


So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41                So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....IP: LoggedNouvelleCool Monster Fighter


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posted February 03, 2002 22:21               
I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.

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posted February 03, 2002 22:21                I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content. IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator
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posted February 03, 2002 22:28               
Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42               
I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42                I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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posted February 04, 2002 09:32               Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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posted February 04, 2002 12:10               


My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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posted February 04, 2002 12:10                My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Kendahl897 » Sat Feb 02, 2002 8:49 pm

Has anyone gotten any new information or verification on the rumor that Willow and Tara might get back together at the end of episode 17? Just curious.....
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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Warduke » Sat Feb 02, 2002 8:59 pm

As of right now, nothing about ep 17 Kendahl, but I can't wait for spoilers about that one.

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Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.

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Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...

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posted February 03, 2002 00:30               
Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...

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Lots of willow/tara stuff!

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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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posted February 03, 2002 13:30               
Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.

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posted February 03, 2002 13:56               
Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.

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posted February 03, 2002 15:37               
I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:11               
Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

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posted February 03, 2002 17:24               
Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:39            
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Originally posted by Dr.G:
However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04               
Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41               
So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....

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posted February 03, 2002 22:21               
I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.

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posted February 03, 2002 22:28               
Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42               
I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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posted February 04, 2002 12:10               
My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.

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posted February 02, 2002 23:59               
Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...

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posted February 03, 2002 00:30               
Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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posted February 03, 2002 00:30                Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...

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Lots of willow/tara stuff!

SPOILERS!!
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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.

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posted February 03, 2002 13:56               
Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.

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posted February 03, 2002 13:56                Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.
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posted February 03, 2002 15:37               
I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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posted February 03, 2002 15:37                I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

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posted February 03, 2002 17:11                Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?IP: LoggedtommoLesbian Gay Type Lover


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posted February 03, 2002 17:24               
Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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posted February 03, 2002 17:24                Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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Originally posted by Dr.G:
However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04               


Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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posted February 03, 2002 18:04                Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....

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posted February 03, 2002 20:41                So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....IP: LoggedNouvelleCool Monster Fighter


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posted February 03, 2002 22:21               
I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.

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posted February 03, 2002 22:21                I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content. IP: LoggedxitaMs. Moderator
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posted February 03, 2002 22:28               
Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42               
I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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posted February 03, 2002 23:42                I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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posted February 04, 2002 09:32               Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

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My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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posted February 04, 2002 12:10                My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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Postby AutumnT » Sat Feb 02, 2002 9:40 pm

Episode 17 should have started shooting Thursday, but it looks like casting sides did not go out for it. At least none I've seen.
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Postby Kendahl897 » Sat Feb 02, 2002 9:59 pm

Probably won't be additional casting sides going out. My guess is that 17 is going to be a resolution to episode 16. So that episode will probably be scooby 'centric'. The extras will probably be the same people that were in episode 16..Just my guess, though...
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Postby AutumnT » Sat Feb 02, 2002 10:30 pm

Some episodes just don't have sides go out and it has nothing to do with a resolution from the last episode or characters from the last. Before episode 16 the last time sides went out was like way back for "All the Way". And there have been plenty of episodes and new characters since then. The real reason is that Mutant Enemy tends to remember folks that read for them and use actors from a pool of people. i.e. you read for the part of Vamp #1 in episode 8 and don't get it. Well, you could end up playing vamp #2 5 episodes later.

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Postby Kendahl897 » Sat Feb 02, 2002 10:49 pm

Thanks for the clarification. Didn't know how that worked...
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Postby underyourspell » Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:20 am

Lots of willow/tara stuff!

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The nerd troika cook up a demon, but it's actually Katrina, Warren's ex-girlfriend, who is very human and behind the demon's face. Buffy doesn't see this and slays the girl - or did she? Turns out that she would have died anyway and Buffy was probably doing her a favor, but Buffy tries to turn herself in to the cops.

Buffy's impending admission of guilt sends Spike off the deep end. He can't face the thought of losing Buffy to prison. So what does he do? He attacks her and injures her enough to knock her out, then takes her to his crypt where he keeps her under lock and key until he can find Willow and have her look at the girl's body. But the body has disappeared and what's left behind isn't human excretion so they convince Buffy that she isn't a murderer. That doesn't help Buffy's state of mind though as guilt continues to overwhelm her. Guilt over the girl. Guilt over being with Spike. Guilt over not providing Dawn with a good lifestyle.

Buffy and Dawn share a tender moment where Dawn tells her it's okay to make mistakes. Dawn "confesses" that she's been stealing stuff for months and that yanks Buffy out of her stupor. She screams at Dawn, telling her that the social services will remove her forever if she messes up like that and gets caught. She tells her that if her grades continue to downslide and the stealing continues, she'll send her to live with their father.

Random stuff for Buffy's Birthday episode:

Buffy tries to break things off with Spike, who brings the Slayer a kick ass gift, until Dawn makes a wish that leaves everyone grounded in the house with no means of escape. In such close quarters, Spike and Buffy succumb to passion, unaware that someone witnesses their entire exchange.

Someone finds out that Buffy and Spike are sleeping together and they tell Buffy that it's normal for her to reach out to Spike and try to find her place, but her place isn't with Spike.

Willow and Tara are also confined in the house together and they argue about Willow's use of magick. Willow says that she could probably magick them out of the house, but witness how she's not. She hasn't even thought of using magick. All she's done is wiggle doorknobs and cry. No magick there. Tara says that the only reason she stopped doing it is because Dawn almost died and forced her hand. Willow says she stopped doing it because SHE, Willow, is slowly dying inside without Tara. She says her heart is so broken and her mind is so distracted that she probably couldn't levitate a pencil anymore. And the funny thing is, she misses Tara too much to miss the magick.

Tara tries to walk away and can't. She goes back to Willow and kisses her. She tells her that she won't move back in, but they can talk and *try* and maybe go on dates because she misses Willow as well and believes that she wants to do the right thing.

A demon is locked in with the gang and has the ability to possess random members of the scooby gang. Once possessed, it verbally attacks other people after racking the victim's brain and gaining their thoughts. It makes Xander tell Anya that he thinks growing old with her will drive him to drinking, eating too much, and possibly suicide before he's thirty. Anya tells Xander that she thinks his penis never healed properly after the Chumash tribe, because she's unsatisfied. Buffy tells Dawn that she's a hindrance and a "curse". Dawn tells Buffy that she wishes she had never come back from the dead at all. Willow tells the gang that the biggest mistake she made was staying behind with them and not going off to school where "normal" people are. You get the picture....

Spike's the only one who doesn't get possessed and he's the one who figures out what kind of demon it is and how to dispel it. When the gang can finally leave the house, no one does. They all just sit down and look at each other like they don't know who or what to believe anymore.

Other random stuff:


Riley miraculously appears in town and will catch Buffy and Spike in a massive lip lock and completely lose his head. He tries to attack Spike, but Buffy intervenes and tells him that he doesn't understand her or Sunnydale anymore and he should go. A woman appears and says, "Riley, honey? Oh! You must be Buffy!"
The woman is Sam, Riley's wife. She's *perfect*. Riley can't confront Buffy right then about what he saw her doing with Spike, and Spike mocks him a bit before he leaves in anger at Buffy for not defending what they have.

Buffy agrees to work with Riley's men to track this nasty breed of demon who are submerging on the hellmouth. Sam, the wife, leads one team and Riley and Buffy go alone. Riley confronts Buffy, telling her he KNEW that she only wanted a demon. Buffy tells him that if he hadn't left her, she'd still be with him and maybe she wouldn't have died. Riley is thrown by the news that she died and hugs her. Spike is spying and gets furious. Buffy shoves Riley away and tells him to save his compassion for his wife. Riley says that he never expected to fall in love with someone else. Buffy starts to say "Neither did I!" but catches herself. It's not lost on Riley who totally goes off on her, shoving her back against the wall and telling her to wake up. Spike will kill her if he ever gets the chip out and he can't guarantee how long the chip will work. Buffy says she can take care of herself. Riley says that Buffy's problem is that she's so busy taking care of herself that she can't let anyone get close enough to do it for her.

AND the demons attack. Buffy gets mangled pretty good. So does Riley. Spike joins in, doing a fair share of damage, then Sam and co. show up after hearing Riley's distress signal. It's a bloodbath. That breed of demon is unbelievably strong. Somehow, the good guys prevail and as Buffy looks on, Sam and Riley lovingly tend to one another's wounds ... Spike is still beating up on one of the demons, not worrying at all about how hurt she is. She stares back and forth, as if realizing for the first time the differences between them.

The next day, Riley and Sam prepare to leave town. Buffy gives Riley a sweater he left behind and hugs him, whispering that, "I was there when the helicopter took off, Riley. You just didn't see me. I didn't make it in time and I tried. I did try."

Riley leaves looking very unsure of his decisions.

Buffy visits Spike and tells him that this is really it. She's not playing anymore. They're finished. He has two weeks to get out of town or she'll kill him. Spike hands her a stake and tells her not to postpone the inevitable. He's not going anywhere and killing him in two weeks or killing him now won't matter. She can't do it. She draws the stake back with every intention of killing him, but she doesn't. He reaches out and touches one of the cuts on her face and asks her if she's okay and tells her that he woul have come to check on her the night before, but someone had to dispose of the demon bodies and Riley's crack team wasn't about to.

She seems almost moved by his tenderness. Almost. She backs away and shakes her head, telling him that her decision stands. If he is staying in town, he's staying away from her or else.

Spike doesn't get out of town, but he does bring a date to Anya and Xander's wedding. He rubs Buffy's nose in it, kissing the woman's neck, ignoring Buffy's glances and snide comments. Finally, she breaks down and retreats to an empty room and Spike follows her. She asks him if he plans on taking his "catch" home with him. He says of course he does. She asks if he still loves her. He says he will love her until the day he dies, but he won't be her stomping ground anymore. He's tired of her being all hot and cold. She tells him that she misses him. He says he knows how that feels, but it's all her doing. She tells him that she can't stand the thought of knowing that he's taking that woman home with him. He tells her that she's just a poor substitute for the real thing and he's just going through the motions. She cries, but says that no one can know about them and he should leave because seeing him is too hard. He starts to leave, then tells her to sleep easy knowing that he won't be taking the woman home with him afterall.

"We're pathetic, eh luv?"

"Yeah, Spike, we're pathetic."

"At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial."

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Postby xita » Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:30 am

Nice fanfic, incorporated some spoilers but ignored others.
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Postby AutumnT » Sun Feb 03, 2002 11:56 am

Yeah AngelX has already said they are bunk.
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Postby TV4MOI » Sun Feb 03, 2002 1:37 pm

I don't know quite what to make of Spike and Buffy's relationship thus far. I *think* that he loves her, and I *know* that she's starting to care about him (even if it's only as a friend)... but there are some incidents that make me sick (namely Spike and Buffy fucking out side the fast-food place)

So, what's to become of them? Ah, I don't know... I need to take a moment.

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Postby Dr.G » Sun Feb 03, 2002 3:11 pm

Well it will be interesting to compare these to the eps, not bad, I would not mind a W/T kiss, duh. However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?
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Postby tommo » Sun Feb 03, 2002 3:24 pm

Oh but come on...a scene like that is just lovely. Wish I could write something like that, heh.

And another point; I LOVE Anthony Stewart Head. I wish he'd bloody call me...heh.

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Postby supermus » Sun Feb 03, 2002 3:39 pm

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Originally posted by Dr.G:
However, among other things it is a little odd that it says 'someone' finds out about Buffy and Spike. The spoilers have said ages ago that that is Tara, why is she a someone now?

I don't think the someone is Tara; if this person knew that Tara found out they would have put it under dead things. Though I do like the line 'At least I'm not pathetic *and* in denial'

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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Dr.G » Sun Feb 03, 2002 4:04 pm

Hmmm well I just assumed they had mixed up that spoiler. So this would mean yet someone else finds out and is supportive, lucky for Buffy. Fortunately, one more day till the Wildfeed (ah and one more week till ep 14). Patience, not my virtue.

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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Kendahl897 » Sun Feb 03, 2002 6:41 pm

So there's no truth to the Willow/ Tara spoiler just posted here? It sounded so nice...If it is bogus, you're right. Someone is very good at writing this kind of fan fiction....Aaargh, I wan't them back together, now.....
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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Nouvelle » Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:21 pm

I don't believe this has been posted before but if it has, my apologies. An issue of Sci-Fi magazine has a story on what to expect of our favorite sci-fi television shows. Concerning Buffy, Marti is quoted as saying that Willow and Tara are going to try and work things out and that we hav'nt seen the last of Tara. I did'nt buy the magazine because that was the only Buffy content.
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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby xita » Sun Feb 03, 2002 8:28 pm

Actually no though it sounds vaguely like what she said in the dreamwatch interview, nouvelle, does sound like it?
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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Nouvelle » Sun Feb 03, 2002 9:42 pm

I don't think that is it, Xita. She also mentions something about Spike and Buffy breaking up. I wanted to copy it down but I didn't have a pen with me. I promise to go to the bookstore tomorrow, pen and paper in hand, and copy it down.

Edited to add, after reading the Dreamwatch thing again, they could be the same. I'll post whatever the mag says anyhow.

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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Willow-4-Tara* » Mon Feb 04, 2002 7:32 am

Episode 16 - Hell's Bells
Anya and Xander don't get married. Xander saves Anya from Future Xander (A past victim from Anyanks past). He then checks into a run down motel. Episode 17, the original scoobies (Buffy, Xander and Willow) have to deal with their relationships. Buffy and Spike. Xander and Anya. Willow and Tara. Willow and Tara get back together at the end of Episode 17.

*reposted by WillTara

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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 6 - The Bermuda Triangle

Postby Shaniezak » Mon Feb 04, 2002 10:10 am

My aunt, who lives in Altadena, just informed me (sadly after the fact, but oh well) that the Buffy crew spent several days last week, filming on location at the park across the street from their house. I could drop by later and check out the place, get a few pictures just to get an idea of appearances.

Anyone know which episode they should have been filming then?

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