After this episode airs, she will be in 4 more, if she's in exactly 16 episodes this year, as seems to be the case the way Marti keeps saying it.[This message has been edited by Warduke (edited February 10, 2002).]
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Missing "As You Were" will make three. She is supposed to miss three more, but she may end up doing more like she did last year.After "Older and Far Away," she will have been in 12 eps. This will make 42 in all. Yes, I have been counting. ------------------
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Has she passed Seth Green yet? I know that point is coming up...------------------
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I think so, Bob. IIRC, he was in 38 or 39.------------------
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Yeah so like she's been in more than Seth or Marc. Both of whom got to be in the credits. That irks me.------------------
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Me too AutumnT. Fully irked here.
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Agreed, Autumn. I really, really hope that when they get through with the break-up and make-up arc (being hopeful here) they'll put her in the credits and make her a reg ASAP. It's only right.IP: Logged |
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quote:
Originally posted by Warduke:
Riley (Marc Blucas), who needs her Slayer skills to track down a demon called the Doctor.
The Doctor? Do we know anything about him? Wouldn't happen to be Doc by any chance? ------------------
Now that I know there's something to know, I can't *not* know, just because I'm afraid
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Had the same thought. Doubt it, I think we probably would have heard something about him returning if that were the case, but I hope it's true.
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Oh come on, Amber will be in the credits for Season 7, for sure. Heh. Okay, I'm scaring myself now. ------------------
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quote:
Originally posted by The Rose:
Thanks Warduke. You always come through. I can not wait for this ep. The only thing missing is Amber.
Tara is not absent however totally. There is a scene where Willow discusses with Dawn her imporving relations with Tara and is very hopeful. Amber was at Sundance when this ep was filmed.
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I'm just wondering aloud here, but to what or whom does the title of the ep refer? I know where the phrasing originates, but how does it relate to the Scoobies?See...I have this whole theory about things moving full circle. And if things are moving full circle towards better days...then...you know where I'm heading with this. Especially in light of drlloyd's post above. Oh what...so I'm blindly optimistic. Look, someone has to be. True love will out. It always does, if it's true. If it ain't *coughxanderandanyacough* then...you know...curtains. Just a thought. I shall return to private thoughts now. ------------------
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quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
I have this whole theory about things moving full circle. And if things are moving full circle towards better days...then...you know where I'm heading with this. Especially in light of drlloyd's post above.
Heh... there are those on the USEnet who use the exact same reasoning to claim that the infamous Dark Willow storyline will start with this episode. It's natural for Willow to be doing magic, they reason, and so we'll see her fall off the wagon and head down the road into darkness. I don't think that for a second, myself... just pointing out how tricky interpretation can be. What I think, actually, is that "As You Were" refers to Buffy in some way, since it's Buffy's show and Riley was her boyfriend. But we'll find out for sure when the episode gets here. ------------------
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quote:
Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
Heh... there are those on the USEnet who use the exact same reasoning to claim that the infamous Dark Willow storyline will start with this episode. It's natural for Willow to be doing magic, they reason, and so we'll see her fall off the wagon and head down the road into darkness.
Cool! too bad they are wrong!
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i know someone else might jump in with this... but "As you were" is indeed a military phrase...it's a command given to lower ranking troops after an officer/higher ranking has walked into a room without prior notice and a call to attention was enacted to show respect... usually the order given in order to allow everyone to relax again and go about their business without interuption... so it could definately be a Riley reference...
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my inner struggle:who-hoo! marc is coming back! yay! you bring back riley and you can't bring back Faith? bloody hell!! IP: Logged |
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quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT:
Yeah so like she's been in more than Seth or Marc. Both of whom got to be in the credits. That irks me.
Don't get me started. Yeah I assumed that "As You Were" was a reference to Riley and the whole military thing, but on a deeper level I figured that Riley's return is supposed to point up the differences between Buffy "as she was"--i.e., when she was with Riley--and as she is--with Spike. That's my take, anyway. There may be something else it refers to that we don't know about...the ep titles often have multiple meanings. IP: Logged |
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I'm not exactly sure where to put this observation. This is my best guess.I did a quick check of the Olympics schedule and discovered that next Tuesday (Feb 19) is the Ladies' Short Program in the Figure Skating competition. Pretty smart move of UPN to push "As You Were" back a week, if you ask me. They're probably thinking - and rightly so - that bunches of people will tune in to watch Michelle, Sasha and Sarah instead. ------------------
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Heh. And go figure, two of the names you mentioned, Bob, were Michelle and Sarah . . . IP: Logged |
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posted February 10, 2002 23:53 Thanks brian you are the man, I am ready for this ep IP: LoggedThe RoseSassy Eggs
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Missing "As You Were" will make three. She is supposed to miss three more, but she may end up doing more like she did last year.After "Older and Far Away," she will have been in 12 eps. This will make 42 in all. Yes, I have been counting.
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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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posted February 10, 2002 23:54 Missing "As You Were" will make three. She is supposed to miss three more, but she may end up doing more like she did last year.After "Older and Far Away," she will have been in 12 eps. This will make 42 in all. Yes, I have been counting.
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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.
Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.
Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!
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Has she passed Seth Green yet? I know that point is coming up...------------------
Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
"I have this sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation."
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posted February 10, 2002 23:58 Has she passed Seth Green yet? I know that point is coming up...------------------
Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
"I have this sudden urge to dedicate my productive cooperation."
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I think so, Bob. IIRC, he was in 38 or 39.------------------
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posted February 11, 2002 00:01 I think so, Bob. IIRC, he was in 38 or 39.------------------
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Yeah so like she's been in more than Seth or Marc. Both of whom got to be in the credits. That irks me.------------------
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posted February 11, 2002 00:10 Yeah so like she's been in more than Seth or Marc. Both of whom got to be in the credits. That irks me.------------------
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Me too AutumnT. Fully irked here.
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posted February 11, 2002 00:41 Me too AutumnT. Fully irked here.
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Agreed, Autumn. I really, really hope that when they get through with the break-up and make-up arc (being hopeful here) they'll put her in the credits and make her a reg ASAP. It's only right.IP: Logged
posted February 11, 2002 00:45 Agreed, Autumn. I really, really hope that when they get through with the break-up and make-up arc (being hopeful here) they'll put her in the credits and make her a reg ASAP. It's only right.IP: LoggedmollyigSassy Eggs
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quote:
Originally posted by Warduke:
Riley (Marc Blucas), who needs her Slayer skills to track down a demon called the Doctor.
The Doctor? Do we know anything about him? Wouldn't happen to be Doc by any chance?
------------------
Now that I know there's something to know, I can't *not* know, just because I'm afraid
somebody'll know I know, you know?
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posted February 11, 2002 03:50 quote:
Originally posted by Warduke:
Riley (Marc Blucas), who needs her Slayer skills to track down a demon called the Doctor.
The Doctor? Do we know anything about him? Wouldn't happen to be Doc by any chance?
------------------
Now that I know there's something to know, I can't *not* know, just because I'm afraid
somebody'll know I know, you know?
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Had the same thought. Doubt it, I think we probably would have heard something about him returning if that were the case, but I hope it's true.
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posted February 11, 2002 04:07 Had the same thought. Doubt it, I think we probably would have heard something about him returning if that were the case, but I hope it's true.
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Oh come on, Amber will be in the credits for Season 7, for sure. Heh. Okay, I'm scaring myself now.
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Sweetie...I'm a fag.
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posted February 11, 2002 07:17 Oh come on, Amber will be in the credits for Season 7, for sure. Heh. Okay, I'm scaring myself now.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Rose:
Thanks Warduke. You always come through. I can not wait for this ep. The only thing missing is Amber.
Tara is not absent however totally. There is a scene where Willow discusses with Dawn her imporving relations with Tara and is very hopeful. Amber was at Sundance when this ep was filmed.
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posted February 11, 2002 07:58 quote:
Originally posted by The Rose:
Thanks Warduke. You always come through. I can not wait for this ep. The only thing missing is Amber.
Tara is not absent however totally. There is a scene where Willow discusses with Dawn her imporving relations with Tara and is very hopeful. Amber was at Sundance when this ep was filmed.
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 11, 2002 11:06
I'm just wondering aloud here, but to what or whom does the title of the ep refer? I know where the phrasing originates, but how does it relate to the Scoobies?See...I have this whole theory about things moving full circle. And if things are moving full circle towards better days...then...you know where I'm heading with this. Especially in light of drlloyd's post above.
Oh what...so I'm blindly optimistic. Look, someone has to be. True love will out. It always does, if it's true. If it ain't *coughxanderandanyacough* then...you know...curtains.
Just a thought. I shall return to private thoughts now.
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Sweetie...I'm a fag.
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posted February 11, 2002 11:06 I'm just wondering aloud here, but to what or whom does the title of the ep refer? I know where the phrasing originates, but how does it relate to the Scoobies?See...I have this whole theory about things moving full circle. And if things are moving full circle towards better days...then...you know where I'm heading with this. Especially in light of drlloyd's post above.
Oh what...so I'm blindly optimistic. Look, someone has to be. True love will out. It always does, if it's true. If it ain't *coughxanderandanyacough* then...you know...curtains.
Just a thought. I shall return to private thoughts now.
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Sweetie...I'm a fag.
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 11, 2002 16:33
quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
I have this whole theory about things moving full circle. And if things are moving full circle towards better days...then...you know where I'm heading with this. Especially in light of drlloyd's post above.
Heh... there are those on the USEnet who use the exact same reasoning to claim that the infamous Dark Willow storyline will start with this episode. It's natural for Willow to be doing magic, they reason, and so we'll see her fall off the wagon and head down the road into darkness.
I don't think that for a second, myself... just pointing out how tricky interpretation can be.
What I think, actually, is that "As You Were" refers to Buffy in some way, since it's Buffy's show and Riley was her boyfriend. But we'll find out for sure when the episode gets here.
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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posted February 11, 2002 16:33 quote:
Originally posted by tommo:
I have this whole theory about things moving full circle. And if things are moving full circle towards better days...then...you know where I'm heading with this. Especially in light of drlloyd's post above.
Heh... there are those on the USEnet who use the exact same reasoning to claim that the infamous Dark Willow storyline will start with this episode. It's natural for Willow to be doing magic, they reason, and so we'll see her fall off the wagon and head down the road into darkness.
I don't think that for a second, myself... just pointing out how tricky interpretation can be.
What I think, actually, is that "As You Were" refers to Buffy in some way, since it's Buffy's show and Riley was her boyfriend. But we'll find out for sure when the episode gets here.
------------------
Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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Isn't "As You Were" a military sort of phrase? That would have an implication connected to Riley . . .IP: Logged
posted February 11, 2002 17:23 Isn't "As You Were" a military sort of phrase? That would have an implication connected to Riley . . .IP: Loggeddrlloyd11Sassy Eggs
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 11, 2002 17:25
quote:
Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
Heh... there are those on the USEnet who use the exact same reasoning to claim that the infamous Dark Willow storyline will start with this episode. It's natural for Willow to be doing magic, they reason, and so we'll see her fall off the wagon and head down the road into darkness.
Cool! too bad they are wrong!
I still think there is another big boom in the magic dept for Willow, but not like they anticipate..IP: Logged
posted February 11, 2002 17:25 quote:
Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
Heh... there are those on the USEnet who use the exact same reasoning to claim that the infamous Dark Willow storyline will start with this episode. It's natural for Willow to be doing magic, they reason, and so we'll see her fall off the wagon and head down the road into darkness.
Cool! too bad they are wrong!
I still think there is another big boom in the magic dept for Willow, but not like they anticipate..quote:IP: LoggedcirceBlessed Wannabe
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Registered: Feb 2002 posted February 11, 2002 18:39
i know someone else might jump in with this... but "As you were" is indeed a military phrase...it's a command given to lower ranking troops after an officer/higher ranking has walked into a room without prior notice and a call to attention was enacted to show respect...
usually the order given in order to allow everyone to relax again and go about their business without interuption...
so it could definately be a Riley reference...
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posted February 11, 2002 18:39 i know someone else might jump in with this... but "As you were" is indeed a military phrase...it's a command given to lower ranking troops after an officer/higher ranking has walked into a room without prior notice and a call to attention was enacted to show respect...
usually the order given in order to allow everyone to relax again and go about their business without interuption...
so it could definately be a Riley reference...
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my inner struggle:who-hoo! marc is coming back! yay!
you bring back riley and you can't bring back Faith? bloody hell!!
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posted February 11, 2002 19:00 my inner struggle:who-hoo! marc is coming back! yay!
you bring back riley and you can't bring back Faith? bloody hell!!
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Registered: Mar 2001 posted February 11, 2002 19:11
quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT:
Yeah so like she's been in more than Seth or Marc. Both of whom got to be in the credits. That irks me.
Don't get me started.
Yeah I assumed that "As You Were" was a reference to Riley and the whole military thing, but on a deeper level I figured that Riley's return is supposed to point up the differences between Buffy "as she was"--i.e., when she was with Riley--and as she is--with Spike.
That's my take, anyway. There may be something else it refers to that we don't know about...the ep titles often have multiple meanings.
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posted February 11, 2002 19:11 quote:
Originally posted by AutumnT:
Yeah so like she's been in more than Seth or Marc. Both of whom got to be in the credits. That irks me.
Don't get me started.
Yeah I assumed that "As You Were" was a reference to Riley and the whole military thing, but on a deeper level I figured that Riley's return is supposed to point up the differences between Buffy "as she was"--i.e., when she was with Riley--and as she is--with Spike.
That's my take, anyway. There may be something else it refers to that we don't know about...the ep titles often have multiple meanings.
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Registered: Sep 2000 posted February 11, 2002 20:56
I'm not exactly sure where to put this observation. This is my best guess.I did a quick check of the Olympics schedule and discovered that next Tuesday (Feb 19) is the Ladies' Short Program in the Figure Skating competition. Pretty smart move of UPN to push "As You Were" back a week, if you ask me. They're probably thinking - and rightly so - that bunches of people will tune in to watch Michelle, Sasha and Sarah instead.
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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posted February 11, 2002 20:56 I'm not exactly sure where to put this observation. This is my best guess.I did a quick check of the Olympics schedule and discovered that next Tuesday (Feb 19) is the Ladies' Short Program in the Figure Skating competition. Pretty smart move of UPN to push "As You Were" back a week, if you ask me. They're probably thinking - and rightly so - that bunches of people will tune in to watch Michelle, Sasha and Sarah instead.
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Remember the Kitten Board Mantra: "Joss is nuts about Tara, Willow/Tara and Amber!"
(...and Marti's rather fond of them, too...)
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Registered: Apr 2001 posted February 11, 2002 21:36
Heh. And go figure, two of the names you mentioned, Bob, were Michelle and Sarah . . . IP: Logged
posted February 11, 2002 21:36 Heh. And go figure, two of the names you mentioned, Bob, were Michelle and Sarah . . . 
