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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 11

Postby GirlyGirl » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:34 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Blue77:
I just want to say one thing ...

HAVE FAITH

I'm on the FAITH BUS ... I'm not religious, I'm not in the reset camp, I'm in any camp where Tara lives!!!

And I think she will be alive ... it's a gut feeling, nothing more.

Jump on the faith bus Kittens ... it's free, it only takes a leap of faith and if I'm wrong and my gut feeling that everything's gonna be okay isn't right - then I'll eat all my Buffy tapes and go on a televised hunger strike ... until they bring her back

*The force is strong with this one!!*

Sam


That's very comforting, thank you! After reading so many "Tara dies...blah, blah, blah....Willow turns bad...etc, etc..." posts, it's nice to read about someone who hasn't lost hope!

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Postby Nostalgianaut » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:44 pm

This is just an idea,but what if time isn't reversed. Instead, reality once again shifts so that things are altered at the beginning of season 7 and the relationships between the characters have changed. I just saw Mulholland Drive and it's filled my head with ideas. Also, there's that Australian film The Quiet Earthin which all of the characters who are dead in the moment of the shift survive. That would fit with the rumors that not just Tara but everyone dies. Of course they'd have to bring the characters back to their original situations in the next season but it would keep with the character growth etcetera.

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Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:45 pm

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Originally posted by BigMac:
Hey BOB is there a chance that they might do the rest of the shoot on the lot and pull the wool over everybody's eye's and keep the spoiler hound's at bay. Joss and ME can't be that smart to do dirty trick like that would they?

They can and they have in the past. I think most if not all of "The Gift" was shot on the lot last season.

There are also some cities in the LA area that use their own offices to issue permits and don't post shoots publicly - Torrance immediately springs to mind. They could film on location in Torrance and we'd never know.

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Postby CPS Boy » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:48 pm

Bob:

How DO people find out about location shoots anyway?

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The good fight, aye?

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Postby Aylandi » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:57 pm


Umm, CPSBoy, I'm pretty sure BBOvenGuy can't (or rather, shouldn't) answer that question. Given the ability of information to spread like wildfire on Buffy boards, that would kind of, ummm, tip TPTB off as to where fans are finding out about the shoots...

Just an observation,
Ayl

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Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:00 pm

quote:
Originally posted by CPS Boy:
How DO people find out about location shoots anyway?

Ah ha! You're a Mutant Enemy bigwig in disguise, right? Sent here to learn our scouting secrets? C'mon, now that I've found you out, you've got to tell us all how the season ends. Spill it!

Seriously, these days you pretty much have to know someone in the business to find out where and when the location shoots are. I personally don't have those kinds of connections, but I know people who do. And yes, that's as specific as I'm getting.

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Postby Caesar » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:09 pm

quote:
Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
Ah ha! You're a Mutant Enemy bigwig in disguise, right? Sent here to learn our scouting secrets? C'mon, now that I've found you out, you've got to tell us all how the season ends. Spill it!

Seriously, these days you pretty much have to know someone in the business to find out where and when the location shoots are. I personally don't have those kinds of connections, but I know people who do. And yes, that's as specific as I'm getting.

[This message has been edited by BBOvenGuy (edited March 27, 2002).]


I get my spoiler info from sites like this, just open the link and go down to Buffy.
http://www.gobetween.com/sides/la/episodic/project.html

Lucky for me I have the password.

There are several other sites but I can't give them away.

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Postby CPS Boy » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:13 pm

Bob:

Thanx bud.... enough said.....

Now if I can just noodle who they are.... Joss will finally get to use that battle ax.... and I'll get a raise.... *grin*

And oh yea, this season is going to end the same way every season has ended:

About nearly equal parts Good/Bad and Joy/Pain.....

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Postby Web Warlock » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:15 pm

Fairly base security too. I bet it get's hacked a lot.

But that is hardly important to me. I have kitties and I have Bob. I never actually have to move my butt, I can wait till they filter the info to me.

Warlock.

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Postby tommo » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:17 pm

quote:
Originally posted by CPS Boy:
I like the bus! Its a good bus! *sticks tongue out at tommo, grins mischievously and leaps gleefully onto the bus*

I, for one, plan to enjoy the ride.


Well good for you!

I don't begrudge anyone wanting to join the whole "bus" thing. I just don't want to read about it every other post, you know?

I myself shall walk the walk of one who doesn't know the meaning of the word "fatalism".

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You know I've been through hell...Joss can't you see, there'll be nothing left of me. You made me believe...
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Postby CPS Boy » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:19 pm

Tommo:

*smile*

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Postby Caesar » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:42 pm

Other then the Buffy/Spike spoilers I don’t have much info about Willow in episode 21 and 22. What I did find was that they are spending a fortune on those two episodes. Presumably, much of it will be spent on special effects. Meaning that it is fairly safe to say that Willow will be conjuring up some powerful magic in those two episodes. I will have some real information pertaining to Willow and hopefully more info on Buffy and Spike to share in about a week.

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Postby fontaine » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:53 pm

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Originally posted by Kamil:
Heh. I should've thought of that myself -- when my eye was caught by a glimmer of gold off in the corner. LOL I adore that entire tape -- it's one of my most cherished possessions.

ObW/TaRef: Wouldn't you love to see Whoopi do a riff on their relationship? I suspect she'd rival Aly in not-so-oblique references to Miss Kitty. Even so, I suspect she's a Buff fan and a Will/Tara girl -- she has great taste; how could she not be?


HA HA Yes that's the one! Also I love the "Live On Broadway" tape as well - brilliant stuff.

I would pretty much love to hear Whoopi's take on anything really. I am sure she would be a W/T gal.

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Postby fontaine » Wed Mar 27, 2002 8:56 pm

Caeser: Nice name (my cat's name is Caeser!) Do you have much info on W/T up to Episode 21/22? I mean the make-up stuff and I am just a little confused about how all the Tara getting killed stuff goes down etc.

Apologies if this has been asked and

answered before.

Edited to say: I actually meant W/T making up not what cosmetics they are wearing.

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"It was inconclusive and I didn't stick around to find out. I might have magic'd my fist through a wall or something - Willow (Normal Again)

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Postby Caesar » Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:15 pm

If and when I find any more info in the next couple days about Willow I will post it here first if you want.

quote:
Originally posted by fontaine:
Caeser: Nice name (my cat's name is Caeser!) Do you have much info on W/T up to Episode 21/22? I mean the make-up stuff and I am just a little confused about how all the Tara getting killed stuff goes down etc.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered before.


I should be getting some more info about those episodes very soon, but I doubt there will be any info about what kind of make-up the main characters will have on.


*edited to say: instead of double posting, edit your first post and add anything new to that one, read the FAQ.

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Postby Corinthian » Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:37 pm

Uh, I think "make-up" meant Willow & Tara making up, not cosmetics.

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Postby Moonchild » Wed Mar 27, 2002 10:09 pm

I've been staying off the boards for a while to try to take in everything we've learned about the end of the season. I've been thinking about what everyone has said about Restless and about Tara as the spirit guide during that episode. I feel that scene represents the fact that Tara becomes Buffy's confidante and friend, and she is the one who can speak for Buffy when she isn't able to articulate her feelings herself. I think it foreshadows that relationship that Tara would develop with Buffy, because at the time of Restless, Tara was really Willow's friend/lover, and not a true SG member. Of course, now she is essential, not only to Willow, but to Dawn and Buffy.
Here are the things that are giving me hope right now for Tara:
First of all, I know Joss likes pain and angst, but it just seems like having Tara permanently taken away would send Dawn over the edge, and I don't see how Buffy could stand it, either. This wouldn't just affect Willow (obviously it sends Willow over the edge). I don't see how Willow can come back from it, especially if she has tortured and killed Warren, and maybe even hurt innocent people on the bus that we've heard about. It almost seems as though they are going to show us the absolute worst that could happen to everybody, and then maybe someone has to make the sacrifice Wanda talked about to make it right again. And I think that person is Anya. During OMWF, we heard Buffy sing about the fact that they can face anything TOGETHER. Now, they are barely holding on, and when Tara dies, they will implode. The doctor at the mental institution in Normal Again told Buffy that everything in her fantasy world was collapsing, that the comfort she got from her friends wasn't there any longer. The Scooby Gang can survive a hell God, but they can't survive not being together as a team. If Anya got Warren or someone to make a wish that would completely disable Buffy (or Xander), it would be a wish that would tear her apart from her friends and make her truly alone. Even if Warren wishes that, he wouldn't have to be specific about how his wish could come about. He wouldn't know that Tara's death would be the factor that would bring it all down around them, but it would. Back to the having hope part: I have been thinking about The Gift, and how it parallels the way things are going right now. When the *** hits the fan, we see how each member of the SG reacts. Giles is almost like he isn't there. He isn't really a part of the real fight. He isn't here now. He will probably be brought in to advise them at the end of this season, and he basically advised them during The Gift. Xander is gathering his courage and ends up giving Glory a whopping headache, working with Buffy. I think that he will be working with Buffy in the upcoming episodes. Spike tries to help Dawn, but fails. He is injured in the end and can't be there to help any more. He will be in Africa probably, and won't be there to help the SG this season. Tara is gone, at least mentally. Unfortunately, Tara will be gone this season, too. But SHE DOES COME BACK in The Gift. Willow cares about helping Tara over everything else, even when the world is ending. She apologizes to Buffy for that, and Buffy tells her that it should be that way. Willow uses her magical strength to help Tara, and then she is not able to help Dawn. Magic will take Willow from us at the end of the season, but maybe not for good. Now, the most important part is Anya. She pushes Xander out of the way of certain death from falling debris and gets hurt herself. She sacrifices herself for Xander. I think the end of this season might really parallel that and she will realize that whatever wish she granted is all wrong and even if it means her life, she will correct it. I know I'm rambling, but I really do feel that the parallels with The Gift are so strong to the situation at the end of this season, and I think Anya will be the one to give the final gift at the end.
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Postby BBOvenGuy » Wed Mar 27, 2002 10:24 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Caesar:
Other then the Buffy/Spike spoilers I don’t have much info about Willow in episode 21 and 22. What I did find was that they are spending a fortune on those two episodes. Presumably, much of it will be spent on special effects. Meaning that it is fairly safe to say that Willow will be conjuring up some powerful magic in those two episodes. I will have some real information pertaining to Willow and hopefully more info on Buffy and Spike to share in about a week.

Okay, perhaps I missed something in the many many pages of posts, so I've got to ask -

You'll be getting this information... how?

Please don't take my asking personally, either. Everyone who has ever posted spoilers here has been asked the same question. Even me.

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Postby The Rose » Wed Mar 27, 2002 10:33 pm

I would rather hear about the W/T spoilers. I could care less abut Spike.

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Tara: My heart doesn't stutter.

Tara: Willow, I got so lost.
Willow: I found you. I will always find you.

Tara: Nobody messes with my girl!

Willow: Hi, um Tara. How are you? I was wondering maybe you want to go out sometime for coffee? food? kisses and gay love?

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Postby the literary exterminator » Wed Mar 27, 2002 10:40 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Caesar:
I get my spoiler info from sites like this, just open the link and go down to Buffy.
http://www.gobetween.com/sides/la/episodic/project.html

Lucky for me I have the password.


This seems to be a ligit service, and it mentions casting sides for ep 19 of Buffy and ep 18 of Angel. Why have we not heard about these sides? Sides were a big help for the wedding ep. Or have we heard about them, and I've just missed something? If we haven't, could some one with access let us know of any important info. I'm just surprised that info from the wedding sides appeared like 8 places at once (including here), but I don't remember hearing anything about sides from Buffy 19 or Angel 18.

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Postby morgan1707 » Wed Mar 27, 2002 11:17 pm

I agree with Bob; I really don't see how this Season could end without there being a rest, and Anya would be the one to do it. Her powers have come in to late into the Season for them not to have a bigger purpose. There is also the issue of who will actually make the wish. If Ed's spoilers are true (which I'm beginning to have doubts about) then moreorless everyone is dead with the exception of Anya, and possibly Xander. So surely Xander would make the wish?

Also, about cliffhangers, I think what Bob said was right also. But wouldn't there be a major cliffhanger throughout next Season? There will always be a threat of SOMEONE finding Anya's necklace and smashing it, thus reverting everything back to the way it was before it happened. Not really fond of the possibility that next Season maybe an alternate reality, but if it prevents the deaths of the Scoobies, then I guess I'll have to live with it.

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Postby AutumnT » Wed Mar 27, 2002 11:17 pm

I think that obviously ME is spreading out the sides between casting services to plug leaks. This site seems very legit. I bet they do not get the same sides as the other casting sites to mix things up.

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Postby MOUSE » Wed Mar 27, 2002 11:54 pm


Hi folks, new to the kitten boards, but have been checking it out for a while.
I just love this site.

Isn't it amazing, the reaction to the speculation of Tara dying, to the amount of noise to when Buffy DIED.
I really don't remember such sadness and pain released when Buffy died.
Goes to show how special Tara is. And it kind of gives me a warm feeling, seeing the much expressed pain for tara's possible loss, compared to what I used to read about Tara last season.
On some sites last season quiet a number of people wanted her off the show. I would constantly think, No! No! she's the best. Now other people get it. FINALLY!!
God I hope she doesn't go.

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Postby Wiccagrrl » Thu Mar 28, 2002 12:05 am

Yes, Tara is incredibly special. She's essential

That said, when Buffy died...well, we *knew*, absolutely knew, that she was coming back. Not just because her name's in the title, but Joss was out pretty quickly after the finale saying they were gonna bring the girl back. While I believe Tara will probably be brought back, there's a nagging uncertainty about this whole thing that leaves me very concerned.

Plus, the circumstances surrounding Tara's death- so pointless, so harsh, following right on the heels of getting back with Willow. And what this all does to Willow...

Gods, I'm hating this. A lot.

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Postby judy » Thu Mar 28, 2002 12:24 am

So I am hoping that no news is good news. *sigh*
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Postby MOUSE » Thu Mar 28, 2002 1:51 am


You know with all of this love around, maybe we just loved Tara to death.
We've got to stop doing this.
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Postby tyche » Thu Mar 28, 2002 2:43 am

quote:
You know with all of this love around, maybe we just loved Tara to death.

Well, if we did that, we can love her back to life as well. Maybe, just maybe....

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Tara: Nice baffroom.
Anya: (noddin') Like the bleedin' tile.
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Postby Fran_Spice » Thu Mar 28, 2002 3:15 am

Hiya.

Well, I met Amber at the movies tonite, and she was about to tell me everything about the last episodes after we watched this movie... unfortunately this was the time I woke up, so no spoilers today.

I think ME got it that they can´t let Tara die that way and forever. I think I´ll ride the BUS for the next time. All that sadness and grief have to be stopped.

And for the theory that the outcome is related to a wish: If it is, I think it is more probable that the wish is responsible for Tara´s death, instead of the reversal of it. Because the danger of an actual reversal in the future would be very unpleasant.

Oh, and Anya sacrificing herself for the rest of the Scoobies would have another side effect: Buffy could take over the Magic Box, thus ending up with some money.

Fran

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Postby Caesar » Thu Mar 28, 2002 4:08 am

quote:
Originally posted by BBOvenGuy:
Okay, perhaps I missed something in the many many pages of posts, so I've got to ask -

You'll be getting this information... how?

Please don't take my asking personally, either. Everyone who has ever posted spoilers here has been asked the same question. Even me.

[This message has been edited by BBOvenGuy (edited March 28, 2002).]


There are some very special sites other then the one I posted that have official information for companies that help out the sage crew. I really can’t say anything more.

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Postby Xanderella » Thu Mar 28, 2002 4:38 am

About Casting Sides

"Hell's Bells" had a lot of speaking parts for non-regulars. I think that's why we got so many sides. As I understand it, the sides are sent out when the show needs to cast not just extras, but guest roles. There were a lot of them in "Hell's Bells". Whatever is coming down the pike now is going to be pretty big. And M.E. has a lot to accomplish by the finale. I would imagine there won't be the number of sides we saw for "Hell's Bells" again this season. But I could be wrong.

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