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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 11

Postby Mary Poppins » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:22 am

Hi all, first off big hugs, love and mucho sympathy to all you wonderful kittens.
I have many thoughts of spoilery speculation most of which have been covered in this lengthy thread, so I shall spare you all that.
However something someone mentioned above about filming in the amusment park made me think about Xanders comment to Will when she speaks to him telepathically in Bargaining Pt 1. (Something like) 'I know I don't have to speak to answer you Will but I saw the Fury and that way lies spooky carnival death!'
Now correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Fury climax at some kind of amusment park/ carnival? Also (I can't remember it too well) wasn't the plot of that film about teenagers (twins?) with huge powers, flying, manipulation objects,telepathy, mind control whom in the end either are or could potentially be destroyed by their own powers.

Of course this probably bares no relation to what will happen in the last few Buffy eps and was just a clever pop culture reference for those who'd get it in the first ep but my poor, worried 'don't destroy my favourite tv show' brain is clutching at straws right now!

Spit spot
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Postby shellybean » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:25 am

I am also going to do what most are and not only reserve judgement on the show until the last ep of the season, but reserve hope. I refuse to hope and believe that Tara is going to come back unless I KNOW it. I also agree with many people in saying that this show has really taken a downturn lately. Not a downturn into bad quality programming, just into much darker story lines. Its getting a little ridiculous. I just watched Prophecy girl and back in season 1 in an ep where we all knew Buffy was destined to die, everything was so much brighter and lighter than it is in any and every random episode recently. But like I said before, I was a loyal obsessed fan from the start before Willow and Tara, and I will be till the end (god forbid) after Willow and Tara.

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Tara: "Down to every last bagel"
Willow: "Down to every last everything I do with you" – "Forever"

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Postby Feles81 » Tue Mar 26, 2002 1:41 am

Hi, I'm pretty new here
I'm reading lot of spoilers (Black Willow, Spike in Africa, Anyanka), but I would like to know something more about
**Spike-Halfrek/William-Cecily**.
Does anybody know something more??

Thank you very much!

Ciao
Valentina

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Postby Scout » Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:34 am

quote:
Originally posted by Kendahl897:
I won't go back and edit my posts. And I will apologize. But I also realize that something pretty major is going to have to happen by the end of episode 22 and not just for Tara's sake either.

I didn't really think you would edit your posts...that was a little Wendy-related joke.

And I agree, something major will have to happen to set all this right for S7, which I think gives us hope for a reset or something similar. Because let's face it: Scoobies go boom; fans go 'bye.'

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Postby Shewolf » Tue Mar 26, 2002 2:53 am

I'm divided when it comes to the usefullness of spoilers. On the one hand, I'm at least prepared for the worst.

On the other hand, I've spent the last weeks in agony and dread, often having long rants over drinks that consist of 'How could Joss do that to us????".

And I'm unhappy on all fonts. The W/T shipper in me is in dispair, and the same goes for the S/B shipper and Anya fan in me! Maybe I should just be a Dawn fan or something...

Damnit, I want things to work out-for all of them!

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Postby willowtarasandwich » Tue Mar 26, 2002 5:26 am

I've just been browsing through other BtVS sites in a desperate search for spoiler info (I need my fix!!) and I saw some comment on a Bronze site (don't know if it is the official bronze or not) which said that Amber is not in the credits OUT OF CHOICE - can anyone else confirm that, or has anyone else seen that mentioned elsewhere?

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Postby Fran_Spice » Tue Mar 26, 2002 6:20 am

Hiya all.

Yes, this season is the most dark, sad and tragic of all. I watches all 17 episodes in two consecutive nights (don´t ask), and you can´t imagine how bad I felt, how much I cried, and how disturbed I was and am. Especially through Normal Again, but I think this AU was just a manifestation of Buffy´s wish to "be like other girls" (OMWF).

And then the near confirmation of Tara´s death... It just gave me the rest... to "know" one half of my light at the end of the tunnel would die. And with her, Willow would die, too, in some sense.

Well, everybody here knows that she wont be brought back easily, because that would just ruin the meaning and weight of death in the Buffyverse. But then again... Tara´s death is rumored to be senseless. It would be hard enough to see her dying for a cause, but by accident?

And this is the point for speculation: We all know that Tara is one of the most recognised characters, on another _not_ W/T-related board she was the most beloved character of them all. They can´t let her die, just because some fellas cry out to kill the annoying dyke. So she has to come back in some sort of way, at least that is my hope. Best would be she was to be fully brought back again.

But there are other options: I have heard a few _rumours_ and that is rumours like in "Elvis Presley is still alive."... Let´s just call it speculation.

Speculation Number One: Tara will be back as some sort of ghost, which would be truely unsatisfying. She would be there, but she´d be dead.

Speculation Number Two: Willow will be the Big Bad for season _7_.

Speculation Number Three, Four and Five: Buffy retires, Faith dies and Dawn will be the new Slayer. I think this would be quite logical, it would seem to be Dawn´s task for this/next season to grow into this position. Remember how Dawn kicked this demon´s butt when Willow had crashed the car? So this and the next season would lead the show to new and old grounds: Highschool.

OK, personally I don´t think it would be wise or logical to have Specualtion Number Two come true, as it would mean a really really big cliffhanger. And it doesn´t look like Willow could live long enough for this.


Now, if this is true or not, I - for myself - know that a "cheesy" rewind (this means that there are "uncheesy" rewinids, too.) would spoil the show for me just as Tara´s enduring death would. But I still have the hope that the writers come up with some _satisfying_ happy end, without having to turn back time and the next season being the same as this. And Goddess knows I (we?) need one.

And just should make sure that Amber/Tara will be in the Opening Credits next season, after messing around with her that much.

Fran.

Again, I excuse for the inconveniences that may be caused through the fact that I am not a native speaker.

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Postby Dr.G » Tue Mar 26, 2002 6:21 am

Okaaaaaaaay, I rather not start the Amber in credits debate again (not here I mean, as this is the spoiler thread), but we have sat a few feet away from her and asked her this very question at Nocturnal (june 2001).

quote:

Ruth: Right, um, it’s a question that everybody’s been asking us to ask you, why aren’t you in the credits for Season 6?

Amber: It’s a Joss Whedon question. I have no answer.

Ruth: Do you want to be in the credits for Season 6?

Amber: Wouldn’t you wanna be in the credits for Season 6?

Ruth: Yeah.

Amber: But…I’m just happy to be on Buffy, one way or the other. And I am in the opening credits, I’m in Willow’s stuff.


Now if anybody wants to read some speculation about why she is not in the credits we still have a thread on that, should anyone post in it be careful not to mention spoilers.quote:

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Postby theatremouse » Tue Mar 26, 2002 6:41 am

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Originally posted by Mary Poppins:
However something someone mentioned above about filming in the amusment park made me think about Xanders comment to Will when she speaks to him telepathically in Bargaining Pt 1. (Something like) 'I know I don't have to speak to answer you Will but I saw the Fury and that way lies spooky carnival death!'
Now correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Fury climax at some kind of amusment park/ carnival? Also (I can't remember it too well) wasn't the plot of that film about teenagers (twins?) with huge powers, flying, manipulation objects,telepathy, mind control whom in the end either are or could potentially be destroyed by their own powers.


dude! firstly, hi mp, secondly, i NEVER would of thought of that. clever clever clever.

have a swell day.

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Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.

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posted March 26, 2002 09:25               
quote:
Originally posted by Alicat:
Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.


I don't put much faith in Buffy's Domain of Delight. Their spoilers, if you can call 'em that, are highly unreliable. Their spoilers for the end of S6 were recently proven 98% wrong on DarkHorizons.com (see page 1 of this spread).

And any information they DO get right comes from our own AnGelX and BBOvenGuy (Michelle and Bob). Although I find it suspect that they also link to Aint-It-Cool-News, and Herc (who also drinks at the fountain of AnGelX these days) hasn't posted anything in months. (And how interesting that Wanda at eOnline won't say anything until she posts her interview on Friday with Marti?)

Unless they have a link to the BetaBronz where DeKnight himself makes the comment, you can pretty much fuggedabouddit.

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Web Warlock etal,

I believe TVSurfer made Mr DeKnight well aware of fan's concerns with this seasons story lines in general and the up coming willow:tara story line in particular. ME's putting the "lesbian cliche" on screen when they were on record as to knowing of it and planning to stay away from it was also pointed out. TVS made DeKnight aware of this and other sites for proper edification as too fans feelings.

I believe TVS's post on the bronze beta to DeKnight and DeKnights response were reposted on one of this boards spoiler threads.

If I may add my own thoughts to TVS's here, ME has NOT been creative this year in any artistic way.

The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

In fact ME has simply taken the easy way out and cribed/remade last years series out line. but they've remade it as tara pointed out to xander in ep 3 this year, "looking at it from the other side"

All the major event markers of last years story can be found mirrored in this years story line. Giles goes to england and sunnydale goes to trolls/demons and nerds. troll hammer and ray guy. upset dawn who throws a buffy birthday tantrum, buffy has boyfriend trouble, catatonic buffy, willow and tara fight and tara goes brain dead/dead sending willow to black magic for vengeance and buffy to spike to care for dawn etc

They have simply twisted the characters in a rather ham handed and IMO not pleasant way.

Both the Buffy and Willow characters have been sullied by writers acting like children. Children who created a beautiful sand sculpture and then kicked their creation to pieces spewing sand into the faces of those watching.

Buffy has faced the ultimate big bad a god, and died in victory over her.

How do you top that?

Hard to have a bigger bad than a god, so if not a greater enemy, then what is left for buffy to defeat for the big finish?

Answer - add some personal demons and up the scoobie carnage. They destroyed the hero's characters and will up the scoobie deaths for the big finish.

IMO it doesn't matter if there will be a reset for buffy to 'save the day' and restore the buffyverse/her friends. for all we know She may well have to destroy her ties to her friends/they die so she can awake in her ward and find a way to join her noral and slayer selves to restore dimensional order. doesn't matter

The writers will have already destoyed what was good in the series and played the characters as pawns in a degrading and destructive fashion. Watching hero's turned into sex addicts, junkies and killers on the destructive vengeance war path will leave a scar on the viewers minds that will forever taint the show and its characters no matter how the writers try and rehab them

after all, as the writers have pointed out ever so clearly now, one would have to be a nutter in a psyche ward to believe a woman could be a super hero and have a group of friends with super powers who together save the world a lot


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unregistered posted March 26, 2002 09:44              
Hello. I lurk at this board a lot and enjoy it immensely. I especially like having one place to go for all the spoilers a grrrrl can handle. LOL.

I have thoroughly enjoyed S6. It has been dark, difficult...it has also been, for me, entertaining, provocative and I've enjoyed it. The show has made some mis-steps, but overall, it's as strong as it's ever been, for me.

I so hope that Anya doesn't leave and Tara doesn't die. I adore Tara's character and the W/T relationship. But nothing is safe nor sacred in the Buffyverse.

I'll hang on through the season. But I do find myself hoping S7 is the last season. I've been with the show since episode one and I find myself wanting it to go out strong, and, hopefully, with a happy ending.

Take care, all you kitties.

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posted March 26, 2002 09:56               
Thanks, Dr G - I didn't realise it had been answered in another thread. Shows again not to take notice of what's posted elsewhere!

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posted March 26, 2002 10:17               
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Originally posted by Ari:
Here's another thought about the notion of how much they have or haven't 'paid' for Buffy's resurrection.

Okay, so what did they actually do wrong? Messed with dangerous powers beyond their comprehension and feasably beyond their control. That's mostly on Willow's head. She was the ring leader and it was clearly her own hubris that made her so sure she could do it. And that's something she's been paying for, for most of the season now.

But I don't think you can discount what was motivating her. Because I think motivation actually counts a great deal. And she really did believe she was saving Buffy.


About Willow's motivation--the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't think the forces Willow is dealing with care what her intentions were, there is a price to pay. But i do agree that Willow, if not all the characters have been paying it all season and this payment hasn't fully come to a head yet, 'cause as we see from the spoilers, things get even worse.

I don't know...I'm really unhappy about the spoilers because a)i love Tara, i don't want her to die. b)the lesbian cliche thing, i can't justify it in my mind, it's just too fucked up. But otherwise i enjoy the darkness of this season, it seems very true to life(my life atleast) things are unfair, things go to shit. That's what happens in real life and there is no ryhme or reason. But like i said, i have big issues with them killing Tara that don't have to do with the dark turn the series has taken.

Edited to comment about the shooting at the amusement park and Xander's "spooky carnival death" line in Bargaining. I'm not sure about this, but I don't think they were using the amusement park as an amusement when they shot at, what was it, six flags i think? I think they were using one of their actractions as a set, i think i read somewehere it was a lagoon. Does anyone know anything about this shoot? Are the scenes shot at the amusement park actually supposed to take place at an amusement park in the scene? Not sure if i'm making any sense here.

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The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

mmm...I disagree with that. In season 5, all the scoobies have been caught in a huge stream of great events : Dawn, Glory, Joye's death. They've been under pressure from nearly the start of the season to the very end.

They didn't had any time to be themselve. To be on their own. I don't call that growing up. In all the first five season, the scoobies alway had a good reason not to think to much about themselve. Since S1, we know that the Scoobies can handle pressure but that doesn't mean that they are "grown up".

Anyway, until now (I might change my mind after ep 19/20), I've really liked this season. Sure, there is angst and sorrow, sure the scoobies are reallys screwed up and have made big mistakes. Sure, there are way to "grow up" without darkness and sorrow. But it's not the happy life of the shiny happy people that I want to watch.

But, as Wiccagrrl put it, angst for the sake of angst is really bad storytelling. What will the writters do whith an Evil Willow ? If EvilWillow is resolve in S6, that would mean that they've killed Tara just for a fast and furious final. It would be a betrayal of all what BtVS has been during 6 years (well, of my vision of BtVS ). And if Evil Willow is meant to be the big bad of S7, that mean either AH will drop from regular to guest or that she will appear in every episode of S7...So either they waste her talent by having her only in a few episode or they have a bad guy in all episodes of the season which would not be very credible. So something will happen. ME haven't disapointed me until now. I have faith.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:40               
Everyday I go to other boards and see the Kitten board praised or Kittens valiently defending the girls. The strength of this community is known all over the BTVS related web.

The reactions to Tara dying have been from disbelief to shock to anger to resignation. This cannot have gone unrecognised by the famously internet literate writers at ME.

I fear that ME have wrote themselves into a corner by bowing to fan pressure over the EvilWillow and Spuffy storylines.

But I will impatiently wait until the season finale before I pass judgement.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:49               
Lock5, I just wanted to say amen to your last post, but adding that I do want to watch shiny happy W/T, lots of it.
helpful information, it sounds to me like you have given up on the show already.

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posted March 26, 2002 11:00            
To be honest the eps I have seen so far this season I have really enjoyed. I was expecting from things I had read not to like my beloved Willow very much but the brittle frailty and vulnerability she has shown has proved to me that she is growing up and that is why this story line just seems so cruel

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posted March 26, 2002 12:07               
I too, have enjoyed this season in general - so far. Willow and Tara have grown enormously. From those initial days when 'everything is so good that no-one thinks of arguing', they are now each prepared to state their own opinion. Contrast the Tara of Tough Love, who tried any way she could to get out of telling Willow that she had her doubts, to the Tara of TR who knew she had to take a stance even though it broke her heart.

And similarly for Willow, who after the initial anger after Tara left (flaunting Amy as a partner who let her do magic) finally accepted what she had done wrong, and conquered her problem ALL BY HERSELF.

Hell, if that isn't grown up I don't know what is. And so to the natural conclusion, they get together stronger than ever before for having faced the demons in their relationship.

To end that with a gunshot is pathetic, and that's why I firmly believe that there is much, much more to this, and we will find out and be amazed (and hopefully delighted) in two months time!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:14               
Ok.

I have gone from sadness, to rage, to confusion, back to rage, to fleeting hope, several laps around confusion and back.

So we need a little brightness around here. I called my friend “Pup Tentacle” (sorry, obscure Frank Zappa ref) and I asked about the future (cause that’s where he has been). So for your pleasure I present to you the Season 7 episodes.

Following up on Season Six spectacular theme of “Oh Grow Up!”, Season 7’s theme is “I Got My Own Problems!”

Ep7.1
The scoobies celebrate another victory over the forces of evil and party it up at the Bronz till the wee hours. The get up the next day to the horror that despite saving the world, again, they still have to go to work and go to school.

Ep7.2
Dawn steals Tara magic books in an attempt to raise her SAT scores to get into a better school.

Ep7.3
Buffy contemplates refinancing her mortgage in order to save some money.

Ep7.4
Life catches up with Willow and Tara in the worse way possible. They realize that they are due to graduate in the spring and neither of them have declared a major!

Ep7.5
Anya is pregnant!

Ep7.6
Willow and Tara take on the ultimate horror as they try to file for domestic partner status in the State of California. Special guest star, Stephanie Romanov as Lilah.

Ep7.7
Realizing she has been ignored for 5 weeks Dawn throws another fit.

Ep7.8
Xander and Anya attempt to set up an IRA and college fund for their new baby. Tension mounts when Xander prefers a more stable Roth IRA account, while Anya wants a more aggressive Putnam one.

Ep7.9 Halloween
Taking a break from patrolling, Buffy stays at home and complains about “those noisy, damn kids” outside.

Ep7.10 SPECIAL BLACK AND WHITE EPISODE!
An ancient demon is summoned and turns everything Black and White. He is dispatched when the scoobies figure out he is just old, lonely and lost his way from the Dis retirement home.

Ep7.11
Buffy’s dad and his “special friend” Trixie move into the Summers home to care for Buffy and Dawn. Tara and Willow move in with Xander and Anya. Trixie, who is younger than Buffy, insists that Buffy call her “mom”.

That’s all I have now. If these are wrong, I’ll go back, edit my posts with the correct information and claim I was 100% right!

Do not tie dye me!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:19               
Please forgive me, I'm brand new to the whole spoiler thing. After this season is over, I'm never reading another spoiler again. Anyway, I found AngelX's spoiler board today and was reading a banter about Tara's status for season 6, which BBOvenGuy had some great comments about. Someone said they had an inside source that Tara was off the show. How serious should one take this? I'm assuming not very but would just like some reassurance.

By the way, I'm a huge movie, tv buff and was so excited that TPTB in Hollywood finally had a secure, happy lesbian relationship on tv. I'm highly disappointed at what will occur with Willow and Tara. I know it's only tv, but when you have only one lesbian couple in all of tv to watch, having them end so violently is a bit hard to stomach. I think that is why all of us are taking Tara's death so hard. If we had more lesbian couples or even lesbians for that matter to watch, it wouldn't seem like such a horrific lose. We could just turn the channel and watch our other favorite lesbian couples for comfort. There will be no channel to turn for comfort if Tara stays dead.

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posted March 26, 2002 12:24               
Warlock, you cracked me up! I love that s7 speculation!!!!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:31               
I had a thought, yes it does happen, and I don’t have time this morning to slog through all the spoiler threads, so I’ll ask here and hopefully someone can enlighten me. Where, or better yet, from whom did the spoiler “Tara gets shot in her bedroom by Warren who is in the backyard with Buffy… and that is where he shoots Buffy” come from?

I’m asking because, Willow and Tara’s room is actually in the front of the house from my recollection, so not only would the angel of shooting upward be awkward, but the bullet would have to go through Dawn’s room and into W/T’s room.

Anyway, just need some enlightenment on this point. Probably has nothing to do with anything but I’ve got it stuck in a loop in my brain!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:32               
Now I ask why did they bring Amy back? Then After watching Doublemeat Palace I started to lok for clues.Amy is pissed off about how long it took Willow to bring her back and being Rack's favorite now.There are no spoiler's on her so far in EP'S 18-22 and the only clue's I have is she finds out in ep9 anya bieng a ex-demon.IN ep10 she meet's Tara and she is caught by buffy in will's room stealing stuff. So what part will Amy play in the last 5ep's.

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Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.

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posted March 26, 2002 09:00                Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.IP: LoggedCorinthianDoll's Eye Crystal


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quote:
Originally posted by Alicat:
Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.


I don't put much faith in Buffy's Domain of Delight. Their spoilers, if you can call 'em that, are highly unreliable. Their spoilers for the end of S6 were recently proven 98% wrong on DarkHorizons.com (see page 1 of this spread).

And any information they DO get right comes from our own AnGelX and BBOvenGuy (Michelle and Bob). Although I find it suspect that they also link to Aint-It-Cool-News, and Herc (who also drinks at the fountain of AnGelX these days) hasn't posted anything in months. (And how interesting that Wanda at eOnline won't say anything until she posts her interview on Friday with Marti?)

Unless they have a link to the BetaBronz where DeKnight himself makes the comment, you can pretty much fuggedabouddit.

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posted March 26, 2002 09:25               
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Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.


I don't put much faith in Buffy's Domain of Delight. Their spoilers, if you can call 'em that, are highly unreliable. Their spoilers for the end of S6 were recently proven 98% wrong on DarkHorizons.com (see page 1 of this spread).

And any information they DO get right comes from our own AnGelX and BBOvenGuy (Michelle and Bob). Although I find it suspect that they also link to Aint-It-Cool-News, and Herc (who also drinks at the fountain of AnGelX these days) hasn't posted anything in months. (And how interesting that Wanda at eOnline won't say anything until she posts her interview on Friday with Marti?)

Unless they have a link to the BetaBronz where DeKnight himself makes the comment, you can pretty much fuggedabouddit.

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Web Warlock etal,

I believe TVSurfer made Mr DeKnight well aware of fan's concerns with this seasons story lines in general and the up coming willow:tara story line in particular. ME's putting the "lesbian cliche" on screen when they were on record as to knowing of it and planning to stay away from it was also pointed out. TVS made DeKnight aware of this and other sites for proper edification as too fans feelings.

I believe TVS's post on the bronze beta to DeKnight and DeKnights response were reposted on one of this boards spoiler threads.

If I may add my own thoughts to TVS's here, ME has NOT been creative this year in any artistic way.

The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

In fact ME has simply taken the easy way out and cribed/remade last years series out line. but they've remade it as tara pointed out to xander in ep 3 this year, "looking at it from the other side"

All the major event markers of last years story can be found mirrored in this years story line. Giles goes to england and sunnydale goes to trolls/demons and nerds. troll hammer and ray guy. upset dawn who throws a buffy birthday tantrum, buffy has boyfriend trouble, catatonic buffy, willow and tara fight and tara goes brain dead/dead sending willow to black magic for vengeance and buffy to spike to care for dawn etc

They have simply twisted the characters in a rather ham handed and IMO not pleasant way.

Both the Buffy and Willow characters have been sullied by writers acting like children. Children who created a beautiful sand sculpture and then kicked their creation to pieces spewing sand into the faces of those watching.

Buffy has faced the ultimate big bad a god, and died in victory over her.

How do you top that?

Hard to have a bigger bad than a god, so if not a greater enemy, then what is left for buffy to defeat for the big finish?

Answer - add some personal demons and up the scoobie carnage. They destroyed the hero's characters and will up the scoobie deaths for the big finish.

IMO it doesn't matter if there will be a reset for buffy to 'save the day' and restore the buffyverse/her friends. for all we know She may well have to destroy her ties to her friends/they die so she can awake in her ward and find a way to join her noral and slayer selves to restore dimensional order. doesn't matter

The writers will have already destoyed what was good in the series and played the characters as pawns in a degrading and destructive fashion. Watching hero's turned into sex addicts, junkies and killers on the destructive vengeance war path will leave a scar on the viewers minds that will forever taint the show and its characters no matter how the writers try and rehab them

after all, as the writers have pointed out ever so clearly now, one would have to be a nutter in a psyche ward to believe a woman could be a super hero and have a group of friends with super powers who together save the world a lot


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posted March 26, 2002 09:26               Web Warlock etal,

I believe TVSurfer made Mr DeKnight well aware of fan's concerns with this seasons story lines in general and the up coming willow:tara story line in particular. ME's putting the "lesbian cliche" on screen when they were on record as to knowing of it and planning to stay away from it was also pointed out. TVS made DeKnight aware of this and other sites for proper edification as too fans feelings.

I believe TVS's post on the bronze beta to DeKnight and DeKnights response were reposted on one of this boards spoiler threads.

If I may add my own thoughts to TVS's here, ME has NOT been creative this year in any artistic way.

The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

In fact ME has simply taken the easy way out and cribed/remade last years series out line. but they've remade it as tara pointed out to xander in ep 3 this year, "looking at it from the other side"

All the major event markers of last years story can be found mirrored in this years story line. Giles goes to england and sunnydale goes to trolls/demons and nerds. troll hammer and ray guy. upset dawn who throws a buffy birthday tantrum, buffy has boyfriend trouble, catatonic buffy, willow and tara fight and tara goes brain dead/dead sending willow to black magic for vengeance and buffy to spike to care for dawn etc

They have simply twisted the characters in a rather ham handed and IMO not pleasant way.

Both the Buffy and Willow characters have been sullied by writers acting like children. Children who created a beautiful sand sculpture and then kicked their creation to pieces spewing sand into the faces of those watching.

Buffy has faced the ultimate big bad a god, and died in victory over her.

How do you top that?

Hard to have a bigger bad than a god, so if not a greater enemy, then what is left for buffy to defeat for the big finish?

Answer - add some personal demons and up the scoobie carnage. They destroyed the hero's characters and will up the scoobie deaths for the big finish.

IMO it doesn't matter if there will be a reset for buffy to 'save the day' and restore the buffyverse/her friends. for all we know She may well have to destroy her ties to her friends/they die so she can awake in her ward and find a way to join her noral and slayer selves to restore dimensional order. doesn't matter

The writers will have already destoyed what was good in the series and played the characters as pawns in a degrading and destructive fashion. Watching hero's turned into sex addicts, junkies and killers on the destructive vengeance war path will leave a scar on the viewers minds that will forever taint the show and its characters no matter how the writers try and rehab them

after all, as the writers have pointed out ever so clearly now, one would have to be a nutter in a psyche ward to believe a woman could be a super hero and have a group of friends with super powers who together save the world a lot


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Hello. I lurk at this board a lot and enjoy it immensely. I especially like having one place to go for all the spoilers a grrrrl can handle. LOL.

I have thoroughly enjoyed S6. It has been dark, difficult...it has also been, for me, entertaining, provocative and I've enjoyed it. The show has made some mis-steps, but overall, it's as strong as it's ever been, for me.

I so hope that Anya doesn't leave and Tara doesn't die. I adore Tara's character and the W/T relationship. But nothing is safe nor sacred in the Buffyverse.

I'll hang on through the season. But I do find myself hoping S7 is the last season. I've been with the show since episode one and I find myself wanting it to go out strong, and, hopefully, with a happy ending.

Take care, all you kitties.

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posted March 26, 2002 09:44               Hello. I lurk at this board a lot and enjoy it immensely. I especially like having one place to go for all the spoilers a grrrrl can handle. LOL.

I have thoroughly enjoyed S6. It has been dark, difficult...it has also been, for me, entertaining, provocative and I've enjoyed it. The show has made some mis-steps, but overall, it's as strong as it's ever been, for me.

I so hope that Anya doesn't leave and Tara doesn't die. I adore Tara's character and the W/T relationship. But nothing is safe nor sacred in the Buffyverse.

I'll hang on through the season. But I do find myself hoping S7 is the last season. I've been with the show since episode one and I find myself wanting it to go out strong, and, hopefully, with a happy ending.

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posted March 26, 2002 09:56               


Thanks, Dr G - I didn't realise it had been answered in another thread. Shows again not to take notice of what's posted elsewhere!

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posted March 26, 2002 09:56                Thanks, Dr G - I didn't realise it had been answered in another thread. Shows again not to take notice of what's posted elsewhere!IP: LoggedEvilAnyaCool Monster Fighter


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posted March 26, 2002 10:17               
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Originally posted by Ari:
Here's another thought about the notion of how much they have or haven't 'paid' for Buffy's resurrection.

Okay, so what did they actually do wrong? Messed with dangerous powers beyond their comprehension and feasably beyond their control. That's mostly on Willow's head. She was the ring leader and it was clearly her own hubris that made her so sure she could do it. And that's something she's been paying for, for most of the season now.

But I don't think you can discount what was motivating her. Because I think motivation actually counts a great deal. And she really did believe she was saving Buffy.


About Willow's motivation--the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't think the forces Willow is dealing with care what her intentions were, there is a price to pay. But i do agree that Willow, if not all the characters have been paying it all season and this payment hasn't fully come to a head yet, 'cause as we see from the spoilers, things get even worse.

I don't know...I'm really unhappy about the spoilers because a)i love Tara, i don't want her to die. b)the lesbian cliche thing, i can't justify it in my mind, it's just too fucked up. But otherwise i enjoy the darkness of this season, it seems very true to life(my life atleast) things are unfair, things go to shit. That's what happens in real life and there is no ryhme or reason. But like i said, i have big issues with them killing Tara that don't have to do with the dark turn the series has taken.

Edited to comment about the shooting at the amusement park and Xander's "spooky carnival death" line in Bargaining. I'm not sure about this, but I don't think they were using the amusement park as an amusement when they shot at, what was it, six flags i think? I think they were using one of their actractions as a set, i think i read somewehere it was a lagoon. Does anyone know anything about this shoot? Are the scenes shot at the amusement park actually supposed to take place at an amusement park in the scene? Not sure if i'm making any sense here.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:17               
quote:
Originally posted by Ari:
Here's another thought about the notion of how much they have or haven't 'paid' for Buffy's resurrection.

Okay, so what did they actually do wrong? Messed with dangerous powers beyond their comprehension and feasably beyond their control. That's mostly on Willow's head. She was the ring leader and it was clearly her own hubris that made her so sure she could do it. And that's something she's been paying for, for most of the season now.

But I don't think you can discount what was motivating her. Because I think motivation actually counts a great deal. And she really did believe she was saving Buffy.


About Willow's motivation--the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't think the forces Willow is dealing with care what her intentions were, there is a price to pay. But i do agree that Willow, if not all the characters have been paying it all season and this payment hasn't fully come to a head yet, 'cause as we see from the spoilers, things get even worse.

I don't know...I'm really unhappy about the spoilers because a)i love Tara, i don't want her to die. b)the lesbian cliche thing, i can't justify it in my mind, it's just too fucked up. But otherwise i enjoy the darkness of this season, it seems very true to life(my life atleast) things are unfair, things go to shit. That's what happens in real life and there is no ryhme or reason. But like i said, i have big issues with them killing Tara that don't have to do with the dark turn the series has taken.

Edited to comment about the shooting at the amusement park and Xander's "spooky carnival death" line in Bargaining. I'm not sure about this, but I don't think they were using the amusement park as an amusement when they shot at, what was it, six flags i think? I think they were using one of their actractions as a set, i think i read somewehere it was a lagoon. Does anyone know anything about this shoot? Are the scenes shot at the amusement park actually supposed to take place at an amusement park in the scene? Not sure if i'm making any sense here.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:23            


quote:

The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

mmm...I disagree with that. In season 5, all the scoobies have been caught in a huge stream of great events : Dawn, Glory, Joye's death. They've been under pressure from nearly the start of the season to the very end.

They didn't had any time to be themselve. To be on their own. I don't call that growing up. In all the first five season, the scoobies alway had a good reason not to think to much about themselve. Since S1, we know that the Scoobies can handle pressure but that doesn't mean that they are "grown up".

Anyway, until now (I might change my mind after ep 19/20), I've really liked this season. Sure, there is angst and sorrow, sure the scoobies are reallys screwed up and have made big mistakes. Sure, there are way to "grow up" without darkness and sorrow. But it's not the happy life of the shiny happy people that I want to watch.

But, as Wiccagrrl put it, angst for the sake of angst is really bad storytelling. What will the writters do whith an Evil Willow ? If EvilWillow is resolve in S6, that would mean that they've killed Tara just for a fast and furious final. It would be a betrayal of all what BtVS has been during 6 years (well, of my vision of BtVS ). And if Evil Willow is meant to be the big bad of S7, that mean either AH will drop from regular to guest or that she will appear in every episode of S7...So either they waste her talent by having her only in a few episode or they have a bad guy in all episodes of the season which would not be very credible. So something will happen. ME haven't disapointed me until now. I have faith.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:23            
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The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

mmm...I disagree with that. In season 5, all the scoobies have been caught in a huge stream of great events : Dawn, Glory, Joye's death. They've been under pressure from nearly the start of the season to the very end.

They didn't had any time to be themselve. To be on their own. I don't call that growing up. In all the first five season, the scoobies alway had a good reason not to think to much about themselve. Since S1, we know that the Scoobies can handle pressure but that doesn't mean that they are "grown up".

Anyway, until now (I might change my mind after ep 19/20), I've really liked this season. Sure, there is angst and sorrow, sure the scoobies are reallys screwed up and have made big mistakes. Sure, there are way to "grow up" without darkness and sorrow. But it's not the happy life of the shiny happy people that I want to watch.

But, as Wiccagrrl put it, angst for the sake of angst is really bad storytelling. What will the writters do whith an Evil Willow ? If EvilWillow is resolve in S6, that would mean that they've killed Tara just for a fast and furious final. It would be a betrayal of all what BtVS has been during 6 years (well, of my vision of BtVS ). And if Evil Willow is meant to be the big bad of S7, that mean either AH will drop from regular to guest or that she will appear in every episode of S7...So either they waste her talent by having her only in a few episode or they have a bad guy in all episodes of the season which would not be very credible. So something will happen. ME haven't disapointed me until now. I have faith.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:40               


Everyday I go to other boards and see the Kitten board praised or Kittens valiently defending the girls. The strength of this community is known all over the BTVS related web.

The reactions to Tara dying have been from disbelief to shock to anger to resignation. This cannot have gone unrecognised by the famously internet literate writers at ME.

I fear that ME have wrote themselves into a corner by bowing to fan pressure over the EvilWillow and Spuffy storylines.

But I will impatiently wait until the season finale before I pass judgement.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:40                Everyday I go to other boards and see the Kitten board praised or Kittens valiently defending the girls. The strength of this community is known all over the BTVS related web.

The reactions to Tara dying have been from disbelief to shock to anger to resignation. This cannot have gone unrecognised by the famously internet literate writers at ME.

I fear that ME have wrote themselves into a corner by bowing to fan pressure over the EvilWillow and Spuffy storylines.

But I will impatiently wait until the season finale before I pass judgement.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:49               


Lock5, I just wanted to say amen to your last post, but adding that I do want to watch shiny happy W/T, lots of it.
helpful information, it sounds to me like you have given up on the show already.

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posted March 26, 2002 10:49                Lock5, I just wanted to say amen to your last post, but adding that I do want to watch shiny happy W/T, lots of it.
helpful information, it sounds to me like you have given up on the show already.

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posted March 26, 2002 11:00            


To be honest the eps I have seen so far this season I have really enjoyed. I was expecting from things I had read not to like my beloved Willow very much but the brittle frailty and vulnerability she has shown has proved to me that she is growing up and that is why this story line just seems so cruel

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posted March 26, 2002 11:00             To be honest the eps I have seen so far this season I have really enjoyed. I was expecting from things I had read not to like my beloved Willow very much but the brittle frailty and vulnerability she has shown has proved to me that she is growing up and that is why this story line just seems so cruelIP: LoggedwillowtarasandwichFloating Rose


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posted March 26, 2002 12:07               
I too, have enjoyed this season in general - so far. Willow and Tara have grown enormously. From those initial days when 'everything is so good that no-one thinks of arguing', they are now each prepared to state their own opinion. Contrast the Tara of Tough Love, who tried any way she could to get out of telling Willow that she had her doubts, to the Tara of TR who knew she had to take a stance even though it broke her heart.

And similarly for Willow, who after the initial anger after Tara left (flaunting Amy as a partner who let her do magic) finally accepted what she had done wrong, and conquered her problem ALL BY HERSELF.

Hell, if that isn't grown up I don't know what is. And so to the natural conclusion, they get together stronger than ever before for having faced the demons in their relationship.

To end that with a gunshot is pathetic, and that's why I firmly believe that there is much, much more to this, and we will find out and be amazed (and hopefully delighted) in two months time!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:07                I too, have enjoyed this season in general - so far. Willow and Tara have grown enormously. From those initial days when 'everything is so good that no-one thinks of arguing', they are now each prepared to state their own opinion. Contrast the Tara of Tough Love, who tried any way she could to get out of telling Willow that she had her doubts, to the Tara of TR who knew she had to take a stance even though it broke her heart.

And similarly for Willow, who after the initial anger after Tara left (flaunting Amy as a partner who let her do magic) finally accepted what she had done wrong, and conquered her problem ALL BY HERSELF.

Hell, if that isn't grown up I don't know what is. And so to the natural conclusion, they get together stronger than ever before for having faced the demons in their relationship.

To end that with a gunshot is pathetic, and that's why I firmly believe that there is much, much more to this, and we will find out and be amazed (and hopefully delighted) in two months time!IP: LoggedWeb WarlockSassy Eggs


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posted March 26, 2002 12:14               


Ok.

I have gone from sadness, to rage, to confusion, back to rage, to fleeting hope, several laps around confusion and back.

So we need a little brightness around here. I called my friend “Pup Tentacle” (sorry, obscure Frank Zappa ref) and I asked about the future (cause that’s where he has been). So for your pleasure I present to you the Season 7 episodes.

Following up on Season Six spectacular theme of “Oh Grow Up!”, Season 7’s theme is “I Got My Own Problems!”

Ep7.1
The scoobies celebrate another victory over the forces of evil and party it up at the Bronz till the wee hours. The get up the next day to the horror that despite saving the world, again, they still have to go to work and go to school.

Ep7.2
Dawn steals Tara magic books in an attempt to raise her SAT scores to get into a better school.

Ep7.3
Buffy contemplates refinancing her mortgage in order to save some money.

Ep7.4
Life catches up with Willow and Tara in the worse way possible. They realize that they are due to graduate in the spring and neither of them have declared a major!

Ep7.5
Anya is pregnant!

Ep7.6
Willow and Tara take on the ultimate horror as they try to file for domestic partner status in the State of California. Special guest star, Stephanie Romanov as Lilah.

Ep7.7
Realizing she has been ignored for 5 weeks Dawn throws another fit.

Ep7.8
Xander and Anya attempt to set up an IRA and college fund for their new baby. Tension mounts when Xander prefers a more stable Roth IRA account, while Anya wants a more aggressive Putnam one.

Ep7.9 Halloween
Taking a break from patrolling, Buffy stays at home and complains about “those noisy, damn kids” outside.

Ep7.10 SPECIAL BLACK AND WHITE EPISODE!
An ancient demon is summoned and turns everything Black and White. He is dispatched when the scoobies figure out he is just old, lonely and lost his way from the Dis retirement home.

Ep7.11
Buffy’s dad and his “special friend” Trixie move into the Summers home to care for Buffy and Dawn. Tara and Willow move in with Xander and Anya. Trixie, who is younger than Buffy, insists that Buffy call her “mom”.

That’s all I have now. If these are wrong, I’ll go back, edit my posts with the correct information and claim I was 100% right!

Do not tie dye me!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:14                Ok.

I have gone from sadness, to rage, to confusion, back to rage, to fleeting hope, several laps around confusion and back.

So we need a little brightness around here. I called my friend “Pup Tentacle” (sorry, obscure Frank Zappa ref) and I asked about the future (cause that’s where he has been). So for your pleasure I present to you the Season 7 episodes.

Following up on Season Six spectacular theme of “Oh Grow Up!”, Season 7’s theme is “I Got My Own Problems!”

Ep7.1
The scoobies celebrate another victory over the forces of evil and party it up at the Bronz till the wee hours. The get up the next day to the horror that despite saving the world, again, they still have to go to work and go to school.

Ep7.2
Dawn steals Tara magic books in an attempt to raise her SAT scores to get into a better school.

Ep7.3
Buffy contemplates refinancing her mortgage in order to save some money.

Ep7.4
Life catches up with Willow and Tara in the worse way possible. They realize that they are due to graduate in the spring and neither of them have declared a major!

Ep7.5
Anya is pregnant!

Ep7.6
Willow and Tara take on the ultimate horror as they try to file for domestic partner status in the State of California. Special guest star, Stephanie Romanov as Lilah.

Ep7.7
Realizing she has been ignored for 5 weeks Dawn throws another fit.

Ep7.8
Xander and Anya attempt to set up an IRA and college fund for their new baby. Tension mounts when Xander prefers a more stable Roth IRA account, while Anya wants a more aggressive Putnam one.

Ep7.9 Halloween
Taking a break from patrolling, Buffy stays at home and complains about “those noisy, damn kids” outside.

Ep7.10 SPECIAL BLACK AND WHITE EPISODE!
An ancient demon is summoned and turns everything Black and White. He is dispatched when the scoobies figure out he is just old, lonely and lost his way from the Dis retirement home.

Ep7.11
Buffy’s dad and his “special friend” Trixie move into the Summers home to care for Buffy and Dawn. Tara and Willow move in with Xander and Anya. Trixie, who is younger than Buffy, insists that Buffy call her “mom”.

That’s all I have now. If these are wrong, I’ll go back, edit my posts with the correct information and claim I was 100% right!

Do not tie dye me!

Warlock.

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The Other Side: http://www.xtreme-gaming.com/theotherside/
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Shadow Earth Games: http://www.rpghost.com/WebWarlock/
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posted March 26, 2002 12:19               


Please forgive me, I'm brand new to the whole spoiler thing. After this season is over, I'm never reading another spoiler again. Anyway, I found AngelX's spoiler board today and was reading a banter about Tara's status for season 6, which BBOvenGuy had some great comments about. Someone said they had an inside source that Tara was off the show. How serious should one take this? I'm assuming not very but would just like some reassurance.

By the way, I'm a huge movie, tv buff and was so excited that TPTB in Hollywood finally had a secure, happy lesbian relationship on tv. I'm highly disappointed at what will occur with Willow and Tara. I know it's only tv, but when you have only one lesbian couple in all of tv to watch, having them end so violently is a bit hard to stomach. I think that is why all of us are taking Tara's death so hard. If we had more lesbian couples or even lesbians for that matter to watch, it wouldn't seem like such a horrific lose. We could just turn the channel and watch our other favorite lesbian couples for comfort. There will be no channel to turn for comfort if Tara stays dead.

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posted March 26, 2002 12:19                Please forgive me, I'm brand new to the whole spoiler thing. After this season is over, I'm never reading another spoiler again. Anyway, I found AngelX's spoiler board today and was reading a banter about Tara's status for season 6, which BBOvenGuy had some great comments about. Someone said they had an inside source that Tara was off the show. How serious should one take this? I'm assuming not very but would just like some reassurance.

By the way, I'm a huge movie, tv buff and was so excited that TPTB in Hollywood finally had a secure, happy lesbian relationship on tv. I'm highly disappointed at what will occur with Willow and Tara. I know it's only tv, but when you have only one lesbian couple in all of tv to watch, having them end so violently is a bit hard to stomach. I think that is why all of us are taking Tara's death so hard. If we had more lesbian couples or even lesbians for that matter to watch, it wouldn't seem like such a horrific lose. We could just turn the channel and watch our other favorite lesbian couples for comfort. There will be no channel to turn for comfort if Tara stays dead.IP: LoggedwiltarWillowhand


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posted March 26, 2002 12:24               


Warlock, you cracked me up! I love that s7 speculation!!!!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:24                Warlock, you cracked me up! I love that s7 speculation!!!!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:31               


I had a thought, yes it does happen, and I don’t have time this morning to slog through all the spoiler threads, so I’ll ask here and hopefully someone can enlighten me. Where, or better yet, from whom did the spoiler “Tara gets shot in her bedroom by Warren who is in the backyard with Buffy… and that is where he shoots Buffy” come from?

I’m asking because, Willow and Tara’s room is actually in the front of the house from my recollection, so not only would the angel of shooting upward be awkward, but the bullet would have to go through Dawn’s room and into W/T’s room.

Anyway, just need some enlightenment on this point. Probably has nothing to do with anything but I’ve got it stuck in a loop in my brain!

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posted March 26, 2002 12:31                I had a thought, yes it does happen, and I don’t have time this morning to slog through all the spoiler threads, so I’ll ask here and hopefully someone can enlighten me. Where, or better yet, from whom did the spoiler “Tara gets shot in her bedroom by Warren who is in the backyard with Buffy… and that is where he shoots Buffy” come from?

I’m asking because, Willow and Tara’s room is actually in the front of the house from my recollection, so not only would the angel of shooting upward be awkward, but the bullet would have to go through Dawn’s room and into W/T’s room.

Anyway, just need some enlightenment on this point. Probably has nothing to do with anything but I’ve got it stuck in a loop in my brain!

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Now I ask why did they bring Amy back? Then After watching Doublemeat Palace I started to lok for clues.Amy is pissed off about how long it took Willow to bring her back and being Rack's favorite now.There are no spoiler's on her so far in EP'S 18-22 and the only clue's I have is she finds out in ep9 anya bieng a ex-demon.IN ep10 she meet's Tara and she is caught by buffy in will's room stealing stuff. So what part will Amy play in the last 5ep's.

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posted March 26, 2002 12:32                Now I ask why did they bring Amy back? Then After watching Doublemeat Palace I started to lok for clues.Amy is pissed off about how long it took Willow to bring her back and being Rack's favorite now.There are no spoiler's on her so far in EP'S 18-22 and the only clue's I have is she finds out in ep9 anya bieng a ex-demon.IN ep10 she meet's Tara and she is caught by buffy in will's room stealing stuff. So what part will Amy play in the last 5ep's.

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Postby Alicat » Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:00 am

Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.

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Postby Corinthian » Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:25 am

quote:
Originally posted by Alicat:
Don't know if anyone else caught this, but I just read on Buffy's Domain of Delight that Steven DeKnight commented on the Beta Bronze that there is going to be a two part episode about the big diamond that powered the invisible ray gun. Here's the web address - http://www.buffysdomain.com/spoiler/

It's a little more than halfway through the article.


I don't put much faith in Buffy's Domain of Delight. Their spoilers, if you can call 'em that, are highly unreliable. Their spoilers for the end of S6 were recently proven 98% wrong on DarkHorizons.com (see page 1 of this spread).

And any information they DO get right comes from our own AnGelX and BBOvenGuy (Michelle and Bob). Although I find it suspect that they also link to Aint-It-Cool-News, and Herc (who also drinks at the fountain of AnGelX these days) hasn't posted anything in months. (And how interesting that Wanda at eOnline won't say anything until she posts her interview on Friday with Marti?)

Unless they have a link to the BetaBronz where DeKnight himself makes the comment, you can pretty much fuggedabouddit.

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Postby helpful information » Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:26 am

Web Warlock etal,

I believe TVSurfer made Mr DeKnight well aware of fan's concerns with this seasons story lines in general and the up coming willow:tara story line in particular. ME's putting the "lesbian cliche" on screen when they were on record as to knowing of it and planning to stay away from it was also pointed out. TVS made DeKnight aware of this and other sites for proper edification as too fans feelings.

I believe TVS's post on the bronze beta to DeKnight and DeKnights response were reposted on one of this boards spoiler threads.

If I may add my own thoughts to TVS's here, ME has NOT been creative this year in any artistic way.

The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

In fact ME has simply taken the easy way out and cribed/remade last years series out line. but they've remade it as tara pointed out to xander in ep 3 this year, "looking at it from the other side"

All the major event markers of last years story can be found mirrored in this years story line. Giles goes to england and sunnydale goes to trolls/demons and nerds. troll hammer and ray guy. upset dawn who throws a buffy birthday tantrum, buffy has boyfriend trouble, catatonic buffy, willow and tara fight and tara goes brain dead/dead sending willow to black magic for vengeance and buffy to spike to care for dawn etc

They have simply twisted the characters in a rather ham handed and IMO not pleasant way.

Both the Buffy and Willow characters have been sullied by writers acting like children. Children who created a beautiful sand sculpture and then kicked their creation to pieces spewing sand into the faces of those watching.

Buffy has faced the ultimate big bad a god, and died in victory over her.

How do you top that?

Hard to have a bigger bad than a god, so if not a greater enemy, then what is left for buffy to defeat for the big finish?

Answer - add some personal demons and up the scoobie carnage. They destroyed the hero's characters and will up the scoobie deaths for the big finish.

IMO it doesn't matter if there will be a reset for buffy to 'save the day' and restore the buffyverse/her friends. for all we know She may well have to destroy her ties to her friends/they die so she can awake in her ward and find a way to join her noral and slayer selves to restore dimensional order. doesn't matter

The writers will have already destoyed what was good in the series and played the characters as pawns in a degrading and destructive fashion. Watching hero's turned into sex addicts, junkies and killers on the destructive vengeance war path will leave a scar on the viewers minds that will forever taint the show and its characters no matter how the writers try and rehab them

after all, as the writers have pointed out ever so clearly now, one would have to be a nutter in a psyche ward to believe a woman could be a super hero and have a group of friends with super powers who together save the world a lot


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Postby ROCHarlot » Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:44 am

Hello. I lurk at this board a lot and enjoy it immensely. I especially like having one place to go for all the spoilers a grrrrl can handle. LOL.

I have thoroughly enjoyed S6. It has been dark, difficult...it has also been, for me, entertaining, provocative and I've enjoyed it. The show has made some mis-steps, but overall, it's as strong as it's ever been, for me.

I so hope that Anya doesn't leave and Tara doesn't die. I adore Tara's character and the W/T relationship. But nothing is safe nor sacred in the Buffyverse.

I'll hang on through the season. But I do find myself hoping S7 is the last season. I've been with the show since episode one and I find myself wanting it to go out strong, and, hopefully, with a happy ending.

Take care, all you kitties.

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Postby willowtarasandwich » Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:56 am

Thanks, Dr G - I didn't realise it had been answered in another thread. Shows again not to take notice of what's posted elsewhere!
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Postby EvilAnya » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:17 am

quote:
Originally posted by Ari:
Here's another thought about the notion of how much they have or haven't 'paid' for Buffy's resurrection.

Okay, so what did they actually do wrong? Messed with dangerous powers beyond their comprehension and feasably beyond their control. That's mostly on Willow's head. She was the ring leader and it was clearly her own hubris that made her so sure she could do it. And that's something she's been paying for, for most of the season now.

But I don't think you can discount what was motivating her. Because I think motivation actually counts a great deal. And she really did believe she was saving Buffy.


About Willow's motivation--the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I don't think the forces Willow is dealing with care what her intentions were, there is a price to pay. But i do agree that Willow, if not all the characters have been paying it all season and this payment hasn't fully come to a head yet, 'cause as we see from the spoilers, things get even worse.

I don't know...I'm really unhappy about the spoilers because a)i love Tara, i don't want her to die. b)the lesbian cliche thing, i can't justify it in my mind, it's just too fucked up. But otherwise i enjoy the darkness of this season, it seems very true to life(my life atleast) things are unfair, things go to shit. That's what happens in real life and there is no ryhme or reason. But like i said, i have big issues with them killing Tara that don't have to do with the dark turn the series has taken.

Edited to comment about the shooting at the amusement park and Xander's "spooky carnival death" line in Bargaining. I'm not sure about this, but I don't think they were using the amusement park as an amusement when they shot at, what was it, six flags i think? I think they were using one of their actractions as a set, i think i read somewehere it was a lagoon. Does anyone know anything about this shoot? Are the scenes shot at the amusement park actually supposed to take place at an amusement park in the scene? Not sure if i'm making any sense here.

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Postby Lock5 » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:23 am

quote:

The premise of the season is flawed.
the scoobies were grown up by end of season 5. more grown up than most adults in fact. they were all willing to take on responsibility for those they loved AND the world.

mmm...I disagree with that. In season 5, all the scoobies have been caught in a huge stream of great events : Dawn, Glory, Joye's death. They've been under pressure from nearly the start of the season to the very end.

They didn't had any time to be themselve. To be on their own. I don't call that growing up. In all the first five season, the scoobies alway had a good reason not to think to much about themselve. Since S1, we know that the Scoobies can handle pressure but that doesn't mean that they are "grown up".

Anyway, until now (I might change my mind after ep 19/20), I've really liked this season. Sure, there is angst and sorrow, sure the scoobies are reallys screwed up and have made big mistakes. Sure, there are way to "grow up" without darkness and sorrow. But it's not the happy life of the shiny happy people that I want to watch.

But, as Wiccagrrl put it, angst for the sake of angst is really bad storytelling. What will the writters do whith an Evil Willow ? If EvilWillow is resolve in S6, that would mean that they've killed Tara just for a fast and furious final. It would be a betrayal of all what BtVS has been during 6 years (well, of my vision of BtVS ). And if Evil Willow is meant to be the big bad of S7, that mean either AH will drop from regular to guest or that she will appear in every episode of S7...So either they waste her talent by having her only in a few episode or they have a bad guy in all episodes of the season which would not be very credible. So something will happen. ME haven't disapointed me until now. I have faith.

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Postby Katie » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:40 am

Everyday I go to other boards and see the Kitten board praised or Kittens valiently defending the girls. The strength of this community is known all over the BTVS related web.

The reactions to Tara dying have been from disbelief to shock to anger to resignation. This cannot have gone unrecognised by the famously internet literate writers at ME.

I fear that ME have wrote themselves into a corner by bowing to fan pressure over the EvilWillow and Spuffy storylines.

But I will impatiently wait until the season finale before I pass judgement.

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Postby Dr.G » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:49 am

Lock5, I just wanted to say amen to your last post, but adding that I do want to watch shiny happy W/T, lots of it.
helpful information, it sounds to me like you have given up on the show already.

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Postby magrat » Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:00 am

To be honest the eps I have seen so far this season I have really enjoyed. I was expecting from things I had read not to like my beloved Willow very much but the brittle frailty and vulnerability she has shown has proved to me that she is growing up and that is why this story line just seems so cruel
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Postby willowtarasandwich » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:07 am

I too, have enjoyed this season in general - so far. Willow and Tara have grown enormously. From those initial days when 'everything is so good that no-one thinks of arguing', they are now each prepared to state their own opinion. Contrast the Tara of Tough Love, who tried any way she could to get out of telling Willow that she had her doubts, to the Tara of TR who knew she had to take a stance even though it broke her heart.

And similarly for Willow, who after the initial anger after Tara left (flaunting Amy as a partner who let her do magic) finally accepted what she had done wrong, and conquered her problem ALL BY HERSELF.

Hell, if that isn't grown up I don't know what is. And so to the natural conclusion, they get together stronger than ever before for having faced the demons in their relationship.

To end that with a gunshot is pathetic, and that's why I firmly believe that there is much, much more to this, and we will find out and be amazed (and hopefully delighted) in two months time!

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General Season 6 Spoilers - Part 11

Postby Web Warlock » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:14 am

Ok.

I have gone from sadness, to rage, to confusion, back to rage, to fleeting hope, several laps around confusion and back.

So we need a little brightness around here. I called my friend “Pup Tentacle” (sorry, obscure Frank Zappa ref) and I asked about the future (cause that’s where he has been). So for your pleasure I present to you the Season 7 episodes.

Following up on Season Six spectacular theme of “Oh Grow Up!”, Season 7’s theme is “I Got My Own Problems!”

Ep7.1
The scoobies celebrate another victory over the forces of evil and party it up at the Bronz till the wee hours. The get up the next day to the horror that despite saving the world, again, they still have to go to work and go to school.

Ep7.2
Dawn steals Tara magic books in an attempt to raise her SAT scores to get into a better school.

Ep7.3
Buffy contemplates refinancing her mortgage in order to save some money.

Ep7.4
Life catches up with Willow and Tara in the worse way possible. They realize that they are due to graduate in the spring and neither of them have declared a major!

Ep7.5
Anya is pregnant!

Ep7.6
Willow and Tara take on the ultimate horror as they try to file for domestic partner status in the State of California. Special guest star, Stephanie Romanov as Lilah.

Ep7.7
Realizing she has been ignored for 5 weeks Dawn throws another fit.

Ep7.8
Xander and Anya attempt to set up an IRA and college fund for their new baby. Tension mounts when Xander prefers a more stable Roth IRA account, while Anya wants a more aggressive Putnam one.

Ep7.9 Halloween
Taking a break from patrolling, Buffy stays at home and complains about “those noisy, damn kids” outside.

Ep7.10 SPECIAL BLACK AND WHITE EPISODE!
An ancient demon is summoned and turns everything Black and White. He is dispatched when the scoobies figure out he is just old, lonely and lost his way from the Dis retirement home.

Ep7.11
Buffy’s dad and his “special friend” Trixie move into the Summers home to care for Buffy and Dawn. Tara and Willow move in with Xander and Anya. Trixie, who is younger than Buffy, insists that Buffy call her “mom”.

That’s all I have now. If these are wrong, I’ll go back, edit my posts with the correct information and claim I was 100% right!

Do not tie dye me!

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Postby Alicat » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:19 am

Please forgive me, I'm brand new to the whole spoiler thing. After this season is over, I'm never reading another spoiler again. Anyway, I found AngelX's spoiler board today and was reading a banter about Tara's status for season 6, which BBOvenGuy had some great comments about. Someone said they had an inside source that Tara was off the show. How serious should one take this? I'm assuming not very but would just like some reassurance.

By the way, I'm a huge movie, tv buff and was so excited that TPTB in Hollywood finally had a secure, happy lesbian relationship on tv. I'm highly disappointed at what will occur with Willow and Tara. I know it's only tv, but when you have only one lesbian couple in all of tv to watch, having them end so violently is a bit hard to stomach. I think that is why all of us are taking Tara's death so hard. If we had more lesbian couples or even lesbians for that matter to watch, it wouldn't seem like such a horrific lose. We could just turn the channel and watch our other favorite lesbian couples for comfort. There will be no channel to turn for comfort if Tara stays dead.

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Postby wiltar » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:24 am

Warlock, you cracked me up! I love that s7 speculation!!!!

Patricia

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Postby SciFiAcid » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:31 am

I had a thought, yes it does happen, and I don’t have time this morning to slog through all the spoiler threads, so I’ll ask here and hopefully someone can enlighten me. Where, or better yet, from whom did the spoiler “Tara gets shot in her bedroom by Warren who is in the backyard with Buffy… and that is where he shoots Buffy” come from?

I’m asking because, Willow and Tara’s room is actually in the front of the house from my recollection, so not only would the angel of shooting upward be awkward, but the bullet would have to go through Dawn’s room and into W/T’s room.

Anyway, just need some enlightenment on this point. Probably has nothing to do with anything but I’ve got it stuck in a loop in my brain!

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Postby BigMac » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:32 am

Now I ask why did they bring Amy back? Then After watching Doublemeat Palace I started to lok for clues.Amy is pissed off about how long it took Willow to bring her back and being Rack's favorite now.There are no spoiler's on her so far in EP'S 18-22 and the only clue's I have is she finds out in ep9 anya bieng a ex-demon.IN ep10 she meet's Tara and she is caught by buffy in will's room stealing stuff. So what part will Amy play in the last 5ep's.

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Postby Sela » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:45 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Alicat:
Anyway, I found AngelX's spoiler board today and was reading a banter about Tara's status for season 6, which BBOvenGuy had some great comments about. Someone said they had an inside source that Tara was off the show. How serious should one take this? I'm assuming not very but would just like some reassurance.[QUOTE]

I wouldn't take what people have to say as the gospel truth. Honestly, ANYONE can say they have an inside source, but the truth is, we haven't heard anything about Amber's contract status, so we just don't know. It irks me to no end when people just go on a board and say, "Tara's gonna die. (inside source)." If you have a source and your are legitimate, I don't expect you to give up the source, but I do expect that you are able to back it up with details--even minute ones. Give me some kind of backstory, a little quote. As far as the source is concerned, how is he/she related to the show? That's all I want. But I read the same post you did and all it had was "(inside source)." This is suspect. So, I just say, wait and see.

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Postby Web Warlock » Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:01 am

As far as I am concerned, if it deals with Tara, Willow, Amber or Aly, it's not true till I read it here.

This is the most intripid group and if there is something to be known in this area then someone here will find out.

And for me to totally believe it it would have to be confirmed by one of the Kitten old gaurd.

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Postby Kendahl897 » Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:08 am

Maybe this is the evil twin of the person who has been going around saying that Amber has already re-signed for next season. Truth is we just don't know for sure. But knowing how rumors spread at my job, how nothing becomes a big something, I'd just ignore it.
And I will repeat what I said earlier. It is my belief that if you don't save Tara, then you can't save Willow.
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Postby Alicat » Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:23 am

Thanks everyone for the reassurance concerning the "inside source" remark about Tara. I think I will stay away from the other boards I've sampled. Everyone is either spiteful, or they make biting comments, or are downright rude. Not just about the show and/or characters, but to people who are posting. Everyone is so polite and very supportive on this board.

I agree that the only person who can save Willow is Tara. The show makes that quite obvious. And that "always" stuff the characters keep saying to each other. There must be something to that.

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Postby BigMac » Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:26 am

Those who be alive by the end of the season EP17 in the basement after buffy kills the demon,EP14 in Dawn's room after she run's upstairs,EP8 those who in the sewer.For bringing buffy back four will die but three will comeback the last one to die won't.

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